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Post by shelbourne on Oct 18, 2008 20:35:31 GMT 1
By sacking this sad old fart of a mananger along with his grossly overweight assistant  Sorry but even if I`d paid my normal amount of money on an ST I`d still be doing what I`m going to do after today which is not going to be at any more matches until Ternent has departed Come on Mr Hoyle get shut of this man he is a disgrace |
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Post by andyhudd on Oct 18, 2008 20:36:33 GMT 1
What, out of interest, did he do wrongly today?
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Post by shelbourne on Oct 18, 2008 20:39:07 GMT 1
You know what if you couldn`t see what he and the players did wrong then I`m like the management and players I can`t be arsed to give you an answer
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 20:39:32 GMT 1
What, out of interest, did he do wrongly today? changed the formation at half time and then we had no shape, rythem, in fact we had nothing at all after half time. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Oct 18, 2008 20:41:36 GMT 1
 we were excellent away at swindon, we are playing better away. alot of posters on here dont see us away ..... yes today was generally poor but Bristol also stopped us playing and didnt look a bad side, stan is getting a decent team together imo.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Oct 18, 2008 20:41:41 GMT 1
DH has not got the power to sack ST (even if he wanted to)
DH is NOT the chairman.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 20:43:19 GMT 1
just want to make it clear i havnt said i think ternant should be sacked...i just think he made a mistake today.
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Post by shelbourne on Oct 18, 2008 20:46:12 GMT 1
Again and again and again
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Post by 190119 on Oct 18, 2008 20:48:57 GMT 1
By sacking this sad old fart of a mananger along with his grossly overweight assistant Sorry but even if I`d paid my normal amount of money on an ST I`d still be doing what I`m going to do after today which is not going to be at any more matches until Ternent has departed Come on Mr Hoyle get shut of this man he is a disgrace It's not Stans fault, its the players, supporters, press, Oggie and the rub of the green that's the problem. Can you not see that?  |
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Post by andyhudd on Oct 18, 2008 20:57:50 GMT 1
I blame the players today, not Stan.
Selection and tactics, for me, fine.
He didn't ask them to play well for a bit, then drop off.
They're clearly not playing as he's asked them to - obviously it's up to him to get that out of them, but I don't think Stan's done a great deal wrong today.
Shelbourne - the players were at fault, spotted that, but I don't think Stan's done a lot wrong.
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Post by shelbourne on Oct 18, 2008 20:59:03 GMT 1
Take off your rose coloured specs
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Post by rotary on Oct 18, 2008 20:59:20 GMT 1
Stan is fifteen years out of date. He doesn't like the academy players, so he brings in his 'proper' men.
Brought in 10 odd players, only Roberts better than what we had.
Drops player of the year for no apparant reason.
He has made a terrible start. Pity he can't adapt to the times like his mate Warnock.
Be patient? I just dont think we have the right man, passed his sell by date....
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Post by shawsie on Oct 18, 2008 21:00:11 GMT 1
Cmon then einstein shelbourne - put up a suitable replacement??!!
For gods sake, you cannot change what was a crumbling relic of a club overnight!
I am sick of people sniping at the management team and stating get gerry murphy/mike newell/martin allen et al in.
From top to bottom the club needed an overhaul - it is nonsense to suggest we were only a couple of players short as we only achieved mid table safety last season when other clubs had nothing to play for!!!!
The academy hasnt produced a top player in ages and if ternent has fallen out with murphy then good on him, because for all the posturing and backslapping the academy aint working - we are and always have been a selling club, but currently we have nothing to sell!!That is a very expensive youth system to have for a league 1 side.
Whether ST has brought in better quality is debatable at present i grant you, but with supporters like you (and the prats who have booed since his first match in charge) who give a man only 20 or so games we have no chance.
Today was dire i grant you, but some of the poorest players werent even his signings (worthy, skarz) - it will take time to sort the current situation and people have to realise that or we will be destined to have a revolving mgrs door for a long time to come.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2008 21:00:18 GMT 1
I blame the players today, not Stan. Selection and tactics, for me, fine. He didn't ask them to play well for a bit, then drop off. They're clearly not playing as he's asked them to - obviously it's up to him to get that out of them, but I don't think Stan's done a great deal wrong today. Shelbourne - the players were at fault, spotted that, but I don't think Stan's done a lot wrong. tactics from start were spot on andy but it isnt just a coincidence that we played our worst when he changed the system. its not the first time he's done that this season either. |
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Post by andyhudd on Oct 18, 2008 21:00:48 GMT 1
Take off your rose coloured specs I've posted twice, three times now in this thread. In my posts, I've attempted to make genuine points to counter yours. You, on the other hand, have merely said "you're wrong" with no justification whatsoever. There are better ways to fight an argument, believe me. |
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Post by pozza on Oct 18, 2008 21:00:55 GMT 1
What, out of interest, did he do wrongly today? changed the formation at half time and then we had no shape, rythem, in fact we had nothing at all after half time. Looked to me like we went 4-4-2 after it had gone to 1-1. Personally thought that he was right to do so. |
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Post by shelbourne on Oct 18, 2008 21:03:31 GMT 1
But I just can`t be arsed you have to see it for yourself and you are not doing so
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Post by butchhenchville on Oct 18, 2008 21:04:13 GMT 1
By sacking this sad old fart of a mananger along with his grossly overweight assistant Sorry but even if I`d paid my normal amount of money on an ST I`d still be doing what I`m going to do after today which is not going to be at any more matches until Ternent has departed Come on Mr Hoyle get shut of this man he is a disgrace The clube will be better off without you. Who are you? Twat |
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Post by andyhudd on Oct 18, 2008 21:04:42 GMT 1
If you're just going to state your opinion, and say "no" to everyone elses, without even justifying, why don't you just post a thread then log off?
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Post by lindleyhitler on Oct 18, 2008 21:05:03 GMT 1
Maybe we're still gelling eh? Fact is Bristol Rovers are a better team than us, play better football and possess better players. Play offs my arse.
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Post by marshterrier on Oct 18, 2008 21:06:40 GMT 1
Maybe we're still gelling eh? Fact is Bristol Rovers are a better team than us, play better football and possess better players. Play offs my arse. They passed the ball around well and had some good movement did Rovers. Guess it helps that the team and manager that have been together a couple of years. |
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Post by pozza on Oct 18, 2008 21:07:13 GMT 1
If you're just going to state your opinion, and say "no" to everyone elses, without even justifying, why don't you just post a thread then log off? Abd with that, he's gone ;D |
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Post by BEAST on Oct 18, 2008 21:07:30 GMT 1
I thought he picked our strongest team today, what would any other manager do differently if brought in at this stage? They cant buy until january, when even then that window is notoriously hard to buy players in. I also thought he was right to change to 4-4-2. If you dont agree with his signings to date, that time has now past, and for the time being any other manager coming in would have the same to work with. Sacking Stan at this stage would put us back a few months if anything. Edit; nevermind hes cancelled his account, the brave thing to do after his well fought arguement  |
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Post by andyhudd on Oct 18, 2008 21:10:10 GMT 1
If you're just going to state your opinion, and say "no" to everyone elses, without even justifying, why don't you just post a thread then log off? Abd with that, he's gone ;D Drama queen!  |
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Post by pozza on Oct 18, 2008 21:12:25 GMT 1
Brought in 10 odd players, only Roberts better than what we had. Aye, Flynn & Craney are nowhere near as good as them other 2 goal scoring midfielders we have, what are their names again? Oh, and that Dickinson, he so shite he's been the only striker (bar Boothy) to actaully score this season, yeah he's shite an all. As for Butler, bloody rubbish, that Mirfin fella that ran around like a headless chicken all match was miles better. |
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Post by andyhudd on Oct 18, 2008 21:18:29 GMT 1
Brought in 10 odd players, only Roberts better than what we had. Aye, Flynn & Craney are nowhere near as good as them other 2 goal scoring midfielders we have, what are their names again? Oh, and that Dickinson, he so shite he's been the only striker (bar Boothy) to actaully score this season, yeah he's shite an all. As for Butler, bloody rubbish, that Mirfin fella that ran around like a headless chicken all match was miles better. Couldn't agree more! ;D |
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Post by shawsie on Oct 18, 2008 21:27:17 GMT 1
Brought in 10 odd players, only Roberts better than what we had. Aye, Flynn & Craney are nowhere near as good as them other 2 goal scoring midfielders we have, what are their names again? Oh, and that Dickinson, he so shite he's been the only striker (bar Boothy) to actaully score this season, yeah he's shite an all. As for Butler, bloody rubbish, that Mirfin fella that ran around like a headless chicken all match was miles better. Ah but you cant say that pozza - thats positive and happy clappy!!! I cant believe the deluded fools who think the new signings arent better than what we had - just ask yourselves guys if holdsworth, collins, kamara, clarke (t), jevons, beckett were that good surely other managers would have taken them on loan. Ah yes i forgot kamara has gone to grimsby, beckett looks likely to go to chester and noone else has gone anywhere!!!!! It was crap today but for gods sake stop dwelling on it and move on. |
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Post by thomo on Oct 19, 2008 0:04:39 GMT 1
It's not time to boot out ST. But I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks he's not done well enough so far.
I couldn't give a flying monkeys about fans booing, the formation being right etc, our style of play is absolutely shocking. We look devoid of any ideas how to create chances. Our style is route one EVERYTIME!
Bristol were so much better than us on the ball as have most of the teams that have played at the Galf this year. They had a range of moves to get the ball from the back to the front.
I'm bloody sure we have a right to expect better given the level of investment Stan has had at his disposal.
The comparison between him and warnock earlier was laughable. Yes warnock had a bad first season but I'm bloody sure he'd have had a better first season if he'd have had equivelent resources to Stan. Fact was Warnock had a pittance to work with, sourcing players from the non league. He had so little, he had to work to a two year plan.
I'm not even saying we should get promoted this year, I just want to see signs of improvement and quite frankly I can see NONE!
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 19, 2008 0:55:27 GMT 1
'inherited a Crumbling relic of a club' Shawsie?? Thats a hell of an exageration isn't it!
We finished 10th, just 10 points off a play off place with Gerry Murphy proving that with decent team selections and tactics we were capable of promotion form. This crumbling relic of a club provided him with his own coaching team ( unlike his predicesors), funds to double the wage bill to make it one of the biggest in the division and hundreds of thousands to spend on fees.
Hardly the task jacko had when he took over a freshly relegated club coming out of admin and with 8 players on the books is it!
I thought Stans usual post match crap about 'expectation levels' was particularly deluded today. " People here expect champagne football with beer money".
No Stan, people want champagne football with champagne money. What we're seeing is beer football with champagne money!
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Post by Torquayterrier on Oct 19, 2008 3:30:01 GMT 1
Yet the honest fact remains - in pretty much every home match so far we look good for 20 mins then mysteriously drop away in performance/ideas/commitment. So who's fault is it - players who simply aren't good enough to play for 90 mins like the first 20 or management for not getting them fit enough or inspired enough to turn it round. Something certainly needs to change somewhere or it will be mid table at best for us this season.
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we were excellent away at swindon, we are playing better away. alot of posters on here dont see us away ..... yes today was generally poor but Bristol also stopped us playing and didnt look a bad side, stan is getting a decent team together imo.
