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Post by sapphireblue on Nov 28, 2008 14:08:19 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2008 14:08:21 GMT 1
I said that not thinking about him saying that he is eager to get back into management so you are probably right.
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Post by CaptainHart on Nov 28, 2008 14:07:19 GMT 1
Allardyce is a great manager and I think he could easily get a job in the Premier. I think his time at Newcastle did his credibility a lot of damage. Plus, like Tom says there’s likely to be a lot of fan resistance to him.
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Post by Captainslapper on Nov 28, 2008 14:45:41 GMT 1
don't remember much chasing going on, but I do seem to recall him picking hopkins up off the ground by the throat and shaking him about a bit. ;D Then ripping off what was left of his shirt on his way to the showers! I doubt Buxton or anyone would have gone after him to give him a rollocking for reacting somehow!
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Post by morrisraspass on Nov 28, 2008 15:08:33 GMT 1
Now I know the Mirror isn't usually a reliable rag, but that doesn't matter with this piece, because it's comment not news. But the main quesiton it asks is exactly why Allardyce could be the new manager: "Just when did Big Sam Allardyce's name become mud?" www.mirror.co.uk/sport/columnists/ian-winwood/2008/11/28/just-when-did-big-sam-allardyce-s-name-become-mud-115875-20931724/And it's true - no one in the Premier League would employ him - he's not seen as progressive enough for a big job. We can offer him a similar challenge to Bolton, an enthusiastic but hands-off chairman with enough cash in his pocket, a passionate chairman who wants the club to succeed and isn't afraid to splash that cash, a sizeable fan base, a history, an academy and a set up that belies the club's position. It might just not be as far fetched as we think. I post this as someone with no inside knowledge, and I can't really believe Sam would come to us - I can't let myself! - but the main point is that Sam's stock is at an all-time low, so if it was going to happen there's no more likely time than now ...
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Post by htfc on Nov 28, 2008 15:16:44 GMT 1
so everyone is of the opinion it is to be big sam. the next rumour i suppose is when does he start?? next week, 1st of jan, 9th of jan???
personally i dont mind as i suppose he will be involved at the club anyway im patient enough to wait to see him in the dugout on the 9th??
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Post by townatheart on Nov 28, 2008 15:27:20 GMT 1
Now I know the Mirror isn't usually a reliable rag, but that doesn't matter with this piece, because it's comment not news. But the main quesiton it asks is exactly why Allardyce could be the new manager: "Just when did Big Sam Allardyce's name become mud?" www.mirror.co.uk/sport/columnists/ian-winwood/2008/11/28/just-when-did-big-sam-allardyce-s-name-become-mud-115875-20931724/And it's true - no one in the Premier League would employ him - he's not seen as progressive enough for a big job. We can offer him a similar challenge to Bolton, an enthusiastic but hands-off chairman with enough cash in his pocket, a passionate chairman who wants the club to succeed and isn't afraid to splash that cash, a sizeable fan base, a history, an academy and a set up that belies the club's position. It might just not be as far fetched as we think. I post this as someone with no inside knowledge, and I can't really believe Sam would come to us - I can't let myself! - but the main point is that Sam's stock is at an all-time low, so if it was going to happen there's no more likely time than now ... Excellent post that, and again, as much is this is a "to good to be true" type rumor, there are lines of thought like this that actually make it a believeable scenario. Just to much for us long suffering Town fans to take in
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Post by sapphireblue on Nov 28, 2008 15:30:58 GMT 1
Are we now all hoping that Forest beat Barnsley tomorrow then?
Otherwise, Calderwood sacked, Sam has a choice between Town and Forest?
Oh Dear!
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Post by townatheart on Nov 28, 2008 15:40:31 GMT 1
Are we now all hoping that Forest beat Barnsley tomorrow then? Otherwise, Calderwood sacked, Sam has a choice between Town and Forest? Oh Dear! Possibly, but i believe the the gossip has billy davis as the favorite to take over at Forest if calderwood does get the chop.
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Post by Polish Hippy on Nov 28, 2008 15:46:51 GMT 1
Ah sorry, because I'm an admin I'm not allowed to swear. freddi, you are so full of poo. Is he a poo stirrer too?
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Post by SN0W on Nov 28, 2008 16:14:12 GMT 1
Ah sorry, because I'm an admin I'm not allowed to swear. freddi, you are so full of poo. Is he a poo stirrer too? It's a dirty job, but sombody's got to do it......
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Post by iangreaves on Nov 28, 2008 16:24:14 GMT 1
Hazy memories but wasn't it Big Sam who chased that fella who'd just broken David Burke's leg the length of the pitch to plant one on him? I remember it well. Never seen anyone so angry in my life and when Sam's angry he's very scary. So if any of the players are thinking of extracting the Michael.........
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Post by Polish Hippy on Nov 28, 2008 16:41:54 GMT 1
It's a dirty job, but sombody's got to do it...... Do we get to play at pooh sticks as well?
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Post by sowerbyterrier2 on Nov 28, 2008 19:05:55 GMT 1
Now I know the Mirror isn't usually a reliable rag, but that doesn't matter with this piece, because it's comment not news. But the main quesiton it asks is exactly why Allardyce could be the new manager: "Just when did Big Sam Allardyce's name become mud?" www.mirror.co.uk/sport/columnists/ian-winwood/2008/11/28/just-when-did-big-sam-allardyce-s-name-become-mud-115875-20931724/And it's true - no one in the Premier League would employ him - he's not seen as progressive enough for a big job. We can offer him a similar challenge to Bolton, an enthusiastic but hands-off chairman with enough cash in his pocket, a passionate chairman who wants the club to succeed and isn't afraid to splash that cash, a sizeable fan base, a history, an academy and a set up that belies the club's position. It might just not be as far fetched as we think. I post this as someone with no inside knowledge, and I can't really believe Sam would come to us - I can't let myself! - but the main point is that Sam's stock is at an all-time low, so if it was going to happen there's no more likely time than now ... Good post, but it does have me worried somewhat. My concern is that if big sam is struggling to get a job, and he is coming to town, does he just see us as a stepping stone? Would promotion to the championship see the job offers rolling in for big sam? I just can't see him commiting long term to this club..... if we actually are employing him.
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Post by pg1908 on Nov 28, 2008 19:21:08 GMT 1
Ah sorry, because I'm an admin I'm not allowed to swear. freddi, you are so full of poo. Well correct me if I am wrong, But I have search through articles way back where people have been banned for using unacceptable language. Also I seem to remember a topic that has been deleted that was created by Manc to do with bad language. Double Standards my friend!!!! Here Here Sir!!
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Post by pozza on Nov 28, 2008 19:31:10 GMT 1
I may have to stay away from the Forum until we get a new manager, i'm constanlty getting excited, then dissapointed, now reading this im all excited again. I cant take much more ;D You know I see Huddersfield, I see Sam's Town holds my hand and let's my hair down Rolls that world right off my shoulder I see Huddersfield, I see Sam's Town now
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Post by andyhudd on Nov 28, 2008 20:41:44 GMT 1
Freddi - you haven't actually responded to Pete's point. You've noticed the word "sh*t" with great relief ... phew ... I don't need to acknowledge his point .. I can just mention the swear word ... Anyway, you have changed your tune, on more than one occasion ... It seems you're determined to get it right, so when Adkins looks likely, you'll say Adkins, you'll tell us about his pay-off ... then you'll go back to Allardyce if things look differently. Your info can't be all that solid. Anyway, I find it entertaining enough, but your info's far from solid, IMO. Even if one of them comes off, you won't have stuck by your rumour, unlike n7t. You've doubled your chances of getting it right. How about bringing another manager into the equation?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2008 20:47:54 GMT 1
Freddi - you haven't actually responded to Pete's point. You've noticed the word "sh*t" with great relief ... phew ... I don't need to acknowledge his point .. I can just mention the swear word ... Anyway, you have changed your tune, on more than one occasion ... It seems you're determined to get it right, so when Adkins looks likely, you'll say Adkins, you'll tell us about his pay-off ... then you'll go back to Allardyce if things look differently. Your info can't be all that solid. Anyway, I find it entertaining enough, but your info's far from solid, IMO. Even if one of them comes off, you won't have stuck by your rumour, unlike n7t. You've doubled your chances of getting it right. How about bringing another manager into the equation? Don't forget he started off by saying it was definitely Boothroyd last week
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Post by andyhudd on Nov 28, 2008 20:50:20 GMT 1
Ooh .. tripled his chances of getting it right! This guy's good ...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2008 20:53:15 GMT 1
I hope this is true but its Town we`re talking about here,seen it all before. When Horton got the bullet we had all the big names touted for the job & ended up with Jackson. This is Town & as usual it`ll end up being some non-descript cheap option. Before you all start i`m not being negative i`m being realistic.
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Nov 28, 2008 20:54:30 GMT 1
I hope this is true but its Town we`re talking about here,seen it all before. When Horton got the bullet we had all the big names touted for the job & ended up with Jackson. This is Town & as usual it`ll end up being some non-descript cheap option. Before you all start i`m not being negative i`m being realistic. For once I am in a shocked agreement.
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Post by pg1908 on Nov 28, 2008 20:54:47 GMT 1
Regardless of whether the word word was asterisked out or not is irrelevant it clear to all what the sentiment of the post was. Shouldnt an Admin be beyond reproach? After all they are the ones who lay the ground rules and set the parameters within which people should operate.
F99 is harmless and i think such an attack by an Admin was unwarranted.
Or am i being a little to idealistic here and its a case of do as i say not as i do.
I personally think there is something in what F99 says and he has been relaying events as they unfolded. It is quite concievable that the situation has been fluid as talks have progressed/stalled.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2008 21:00:05 GMT 1
I hope this is true but its Town we`re talking about here,seen it all before. When Horton got the bullet we had all the big names touted for the job & ended up with Jackson. This is Town & as usual it`ll end up being some non-descript cheap option. Before you all start i`m not being negative i`m being realistic. If you'd be happy with Allardyce there's not a chance its going to happen
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Post by pg1908 on Nov 28, 2008 21:02:40 GMT 1
I hope this is true but its Town we`re talking about here,seen it all before. When Horton got the bullet we had all the big names touted for the job & ended up with Jackson. This is Town & as usual it`ll end up being some non-descript cheap option. Before you all start i`m not being negative i`m being realistic. Honest, forthright and realistic and i think thats why you take so much heat. But i doff my hat to you sir.
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Post by Sheps on Nov 28, 2008 21:16:52 GMT 1
I mentioned big sam to my boss at work today and he thinks it would fit together.
He's been out of work for ages and no one has taken him on, plenty of jobs have been on offer in that time, he mentioned Pompey for one.
So if it makes sense to a Leeds fan that Big Sam could come to town we never know...
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Post by sunflower on Nov 28, 2008 21:21:22 GMT 1
Well i mentioned it to a Barnsley fan who i work with and he p*ssed his pants!
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Post by dazb69 on Nov 28, 2008 21:22:46 GMT 1
Big Sam went from 33's to 12's the other day, don't know what he is now. Has the book been closed now? For his odds to plummet like that, maybe someone knows more than they're letting on. Can you still place money on him, I feel like a flutter.
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Post by nseventee on Nov 28, 2008 21:45:31 GMT 1
I hope this is true but its Town we`re talking about here,seen it all before. When Horton got the bullet we had all the big names touted for the job & ended up with Jackson. This is Town & as usual it`ll end up being some non-descript cheap option. Before you all start i`m not being negative i`m being realistic. Spot on. Naturally as fans we overinflate the standing of our club within the game - so the people who are appointed always seem a bit of a let down. Chap I work with is a lapsed Liverpool supporter who goes to watch Altringham as his local team since moving (he still has an Anfield season ticket and just sells his seat to his brother as long as he can get back to watch a handful of games a season). He's a BIG football fan. And yet, he has absolutely no idea that Huddersfield have sacked their manager, and doesn't have a club who was in the job - just like most of the rest of the population. And when our new manager (Adkins ) is revealed, he won't notice, but most importantly, if he sees it on Sky Sports or in the paper or whatever, he won't roll about on the floor laughing, he'll just think, "oh, they've appointed a new manager, didn't realise Peter Jackson had left". Realistically the club operates in a smaller arena than what we think it does...and thats why appointing Adkins won't be a disaster, it'll be a nice little appointment for our club, and if he gets on with Hoyle and they can forge a lengthy partnership together, then we'll probably do alright out of it. Personally speaking, I'm a little disappointed, but thats because as I've said, I think Town are bigger than they really are. So, when he comes in, I'll try and remember that, and get 100% behind him until such time as I think he doesn't deserve it (I went off Stan during the Bury game in pre-season and he spent the next few months not really doing a good job of changing my mind!
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Post by andyhudd on Nov 28, 2008 22:07:17 GMT 1
Regardless of whether the word word was asterisked out or not is irrelevant it clear to all what the sentiment of the post was. Shouldnt an Admin be beyond reproach? After all they are the ones who lay the ground rules and set the parameters within which people should operate. F99 is harmless and i think such an attack by an Admin was unwarranted. Or am i being a little to idealistic here and its a case of do as i say not as i do. I personally think there is something in what F99 says and he has been relaying events as they unfolded. It is quite concievable that the situation has been fluid as talks have progressed/stalled. First of all - swearing, especially when asterixed out, is not outright banned on this forum, it's just asked that people are reasonable, and don't go over the top with it. This thread isn't for discussion of how you feel admins should behave, admins are just normal posters, who've been chosen to help out with the running of the board, helping to keep things in order. This is the "Talk of the Town" section of this board, and when it veers off the topic of "the Town" ... it makes it less pleasant and helpful for everyone who posts on here. The most important part of his post, was his point that Freddi's rumours have been pretty inconsistent, this is what he was asking that people respond to. Let's keep it HTFC related please.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 28, 2008 22:10:29 GMT 1
Big Sam went from 33's to 12's the other day, don't know what he is now. Has the book been closed now? For his odds to plummet like that, maybe someone knows more than they're letting on. Can you still place money on him, I feel like a flutter. The couple of people who have placed bets on here would be enough to lower the odds, Sky Bet are very cautious about it. I wouldn't read anything into that
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