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Post by andyhudd on Dec 26, 2008 23:32:05 GMT 1
After a fairly poor performance from Smithies today, I think it's time to bring Glennon back into the team (I never wanted him dropped in the first place, but that's neither here nor there). Smithies is a talented young keeper, undoubtedly, but IMO Glennon has ability and experience NOW, which is the important thing. I think with Glennon in net, we wouldn't have conceded as many goals as we did - and this is the all important thing - regardless of age or academy/non-academy background. Smithies has had a good little run in the side, putting in some decent performances and gaining some experience, but I think Glennon's more confident and deals better under pressure - we've got to think about results now, there'll come a time when Smithies is our best 'keeper, I'm sure, but that time is not now. WE WANT GLENNON BACK ...
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Dec 26, 2008 23:33:47 GMT 1
I think I agree
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Post by Terrier9 on Dec 26, 2008 23:38:37 GMT 1
SUPER SUPER MATT SUPER SUPER MATT ............
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Post by ding1981 on Dec 26, 2008 23:38:58 GMT 1
i don't agree - how many mistakes has glennon made without being dropped (tranmere away last season and peterborough away this season spring to mind)
dropping smithies after a bad game will knock his confidence and who knows when he will be given another opportunity. he's had a couple of good matches and now 1 bad. give him chance.
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Post by Terrier9 on Dec 26, 2008 23:40:48 GMT 1
i don't agree - how many mistakes has glennon made without being dropped (tranmere away last season and peterborough away this season spring to mind) dropping smithies after a bad game will knock his confidence and who knows when he will be given another opportunity. he's had a couple of good matches and now 1 bad. give him chance. Alex is too young he will be a great keeper but the first goal, that was schoolboy
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Post by kleverboy on Dec 26, 2008 23:45:10 GMT 1
Time to stick with Smithies and show him we believe in him and his ability. Could do untold damage to his confidence to drop him for one mistake. He's the future... time to push on through with this one!
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Post by andyhudd on Dec 26, 2008 23:45:14 GMT 1
Well maybe it's part of his development as a footballer, to learn to deal with being dropped - to stay competitive and fight to win back the shirt.
When dropped, Glennon himself was in good form ... I'm sure this spell in the team has been beneficial for Smithies, but I think that for the good of the team, we need to stick the more experienced Glennon back in now.
It's a nice position to be in, to have two good 'keepers available ... but if Smithies was 30 years old, and had no academy background - I think everyone would be backing Glennon to start.
Yes, he has a future at the club, but we can't just stick with him regardless, he's developing as a player, he's had a run in the team - and he's established himself as an able goalkeeper - another option. That in itself is enough, in the here and now - Glennon is the best goalkeeper to start, for Huddersfield Town (IMO of course).
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Post by ding1981 on Dec 26, 2008 23:46:32 GMT 1
and how many school boy errors has glennon made? not being in the right position - not shutting his legs, shutting his eyes...
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Post by thrice on Dec 26, 2008 23:48:47 GMT 1
I've maintained that Glennon is the better keeper from the off but Smithies has put in some good performances and kept clean sheets up to today. I don't think he has done enough wrong to get the chop and he still deserves the jersey on Sunday.
Its only when you see the players that you begin to notice their faults. Smithies & Parker are prime examples of supposedly faultless players until they have crossed the white line in a town shirt and been put under scrutiny. Thats football for ya.
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Post by 190119 on Dec 26, 2008 23:49:21 GMT 1
Please no, not that useless chump.
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Post by andyhudd on Dec 26, 2008 23:49:26 GMT 1
and how many school boy errors has glennon made? not being in the right position - not shutting his legs, shutting his eyes... A natural reaction for some, having made their judgement, you'll see the same with some players going up for headers. I don't think Glennon closing his eyes has ever cost us, has it? Can't say it's something I've noticed.
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Post by Some Random Name on Dec 26, 2008 23:50:27 GMT 1
I also don't think Glennon should have been 'dropped' in the first place.
How is it that Smithies confidence will be knocked by being dropped when Glennon had to just get on with it?
Four times today Smithies stood there as the ball went sailing past him, I know he his still learning his trade but the same thing happened last week too. I also know if Glennon had been in goal today there would have been 15 threads about him.
Smithies did the exact same thing last week against Hereford that Glennon did against Crewe two years ago but there has been no mention of it yet Glennons past mistakes get brought up over and over again.
I do believe Smithies will be an excellent keeper but I do think that he needs more experience and at the moment I think the shirt should be Matt Glennons.
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Post by ding1981 on Dec 26, 2008 23:51:45 GMT 1
ok ok - the closing eyes thing was a joke, but how many times has he been in the wrong position, or let soft goals in
all i am saying is that smithies should be given a chance of a sustained run in the team.
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Post by specialun on Dec 26, 2008 23:56:04 GMT 1
Bring back ternent! (Joking) The lad's made one mistake, after being named man of the match in the previous game and saving a penalty in the match prior to that to earn us three points! Goodness me, I'm all for high standards, but come on, give him a break!
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Post by andyhudd on Dec 26, 2008 23:58:45 GMT 1
I've maintained that Glennon is the better keeper from the off but Smithies has put in some good performances and kept clean sheets up to today. I don't think he has done enough wrong to get the chop and he still deserves the jersey on Sunday. Its only when you see the players that you begin to notice their faults. Smithies & Parker are prime examples of supposedly faultless players until they have crossed the white line in a town shirt and been put under scrutiny. Thats football for ya. I don't think Glennon did a lot wrong, just before he was dropped, myself! One soft goal vs Orient perhaps, having saved a penalty and played well away at Brighton (won MOTM on here for that game).
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Post by monkey on Dec 27, 2008 0:00:30 GMT 1
I also don't think Glennon should have been 'dropped' in the first place. How is it that Smithies confidence will be knocked by being dropped when Glennon had to just get on with it? Four times today Smithies stood there as the ball went sailing past him, I know he his still learning his trade but the same thing happened last week too. I also know if Glennon had been in goal today there would have been 15 threads about him. Smithies did the exact same thing last week against Hereford that Glennon did against Crewe two years ago but there has been no mention of it yet Glennons past mistakes get brought up over and over again. I do believe Smithies will be an excellent keeper but I do think that he needs more experience and at the moment I think the shirt should be Matt Glennons. He's not going to get that experience if he gets dropped after 1 dodgy game.
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Post by thrice on Dec 27, 2008 0:05:14 GMT 1
I don't think Glennon did anything to warrant getting the chop either. As a matter of fact I think the decision was really sh*tty on him and he is the better keeper at present. Two wrongs don't make a right though. Smithies performances of late have earned him the jersey and I dont think he should be dropped on the basis of todays clanger. If he does it again on Sunday however I'll shoot him myself .
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Post by Some Random Name on Dec 27, 2008 0:05:45 GMT 1
He's not going to get that experience if he gets dropped after 1 dodgy game. I know that but I didn't want to repeat what I said a few weeks ago about the contradiction of 'to get experience he needs to play but he isn't ready to play until he has got the said experience'. Oh look I just did.
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Post by andyhudd on Dec 27, 2008 0:06:12 GMT 1
Bring back ternent! (Joking) The lad's made one mistake, after being named man of the match in the previous game and saving a penalty in the match prior to that to earn us three points! Goodness me, I'm all for high standards, but come on, give him a break! He's made a number of mistakes today, and he looked shaky against Hereford (indecisive when coming out ... caught out once or twice). Glennon had just won MOTM away at Brighton, and then let in ONE soft goal at home to Orient. One mistake, one dropped 'keeper there. Smithies has made more than one mistake, but as I said - he's come on as a player, this has no doubt done him a lot of good, but we've got two good 'keepers, so lets put pressure on them both, to play well to keep the shirt. This is good for the club, and the two individuals.
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Dec 27, 2008 0:09:56 GMT 1
I don't think Glennon did anything to warrant getting the chop either. As a matter of fact I think the decision was really sh*tty on him and he is the better keeper at present. Two wrongs don't make a right though. Smithies performances of late have earned him the jersey and I dont think he should be dropped on the basis of todays clanger. If he does it again on Sunday however I'll shoot him myself . This is basically my viewpoint. I said at the time, Gerry's decision to drop Glennon was a farce, and I stick by that, disregarding how Smithies has performed, because of the dubious motives behind the original decision. As for Sunday, i am 50/50 Glennon or Smithies, I really am undecided, and i'd be pretty happy either way. I'm more annoyed that i'll be missing only my 2nd home game of the season because of work
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Post by jameshtafchi on Dec 27, 2008 0:51:43 GMT 1
No! Glennon is a good shot stopper but his distribution and positional play leaves alot to be desired! Smithies is good at all of the above
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Post by NookTerrier on Dec 27, 2008 0:56:44 GMT 1
Tbh i think it should be the person who puts most effort in at training during the week. The person who strives to have that shirt come saturday afternoon. Glennons had it easy all too long it's nice for their to be competition. I expect Clark will have a selection dilemma come sunday.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2008 2:19:53 GMT 1
I've never seen any other keeper at any level nutmegged for 2 goals in ONE game... Glennon did that, so if we're judging keepers on 1 game why not judge MG on Peterborough away and see who wants him to stay in goal then eh?
If Alex Smithies is dropped at the first real mistake he makes, his confidence isn't gonna exactly be sky high is it?
Smithies has POTENTIALLY the most ability at the club.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2008 2:49:36 GMT 1
Rubbish! I'm a big Glennon fan, but Smithies has been brilliant since he got the shirt. One mistake today, but everyone makes mistakes, and apart from that I think he had another decent game. If we're going to swap our keepers after every mistake there will be no continuity at all
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Post by ligament on Dec 27, 2008 10:28:06 GMT 1
Rubbish! I'm a big Glennon fan, but Smithies has been brilliant since he got the shirt. One mistake today, but everyone makes mistakes, and apart from that I think he had another decent game. If we're going to swap our keepers after every mistake there will be no continuity at all sums it up for me good post have a positive
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Post by terrier08 on Dec 27, 2008 10:30:14 GMT 1
I don't agree with that at all i'm afraid how many times have we seen glennon have (an off day) and we get hammered give the lad a break he's only young and he's still learning
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2008 10:48:38 GMT 1
If Smithies cant establish himself as the regular 1st choice keeper - he will leave. He knows he's a good goalie, and there will be other teams out there that would take him. He's only a young lad, and with a bit of 1st team experience he can only get better. For me, in the long term he can be a good keeper for Huddersfield for many years, but the fans need to get behind the lad.
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Post by Tez on Dec 27, 2008 10:53:54 GMT 1
I wasn't at Carlisle so I can't comment on whether Smithies was at fault for any of the 3 goals. I do know that i've seen him make some stunning saves in his few games between the Town sticks to keep him in the starting line up. Only if he was at crisis level of not being able to kick or roll it decently to another team mate then we could maybe think about it. (I aint a Matty G basher either )
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Post by betsvigi9 on Dec 27, 2008 11:26:14 GMT 1
I wasn't at Carlisle so I can't comment on whether Smithies was at fault for any of the 3 goals. I do know that i've seen him make some stunning saves in his few games between the Town sticks to keep him in the starting line up. Only if he was at crisis level of not being able to kick or roll it decently to another team mate then we could maybe think about it. (I aint a Matty G basher either ) I think that he might have been at fault for the first goal, in that he seemed to have two hands on the ball but somehow fumbled it. However, I would like to see the incident again to really be sure. He couldn't do anything about either of the other two goals; no chance. The team just didn't turn up, unlike the fans. I'd forgotten what a rubbish ground Carlisle have. They really gave the away fans the worst possible place to "view" the game, squeezed into one corner and spending the whole of the first half shielding our eyes from the sun. The atmosphere in the whole ground was utterly dire. The Carlisle fans must have thought they were at a classical music concert, because they only started to sing a bit about 5 minutes from the end of the game. And we think that the atmosphere at the Galpharm isn't very good!
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Post by fredcarno on Dec 27, 2008 11:58:16 GMT 1
Glennon makes the odd great stop but for me is a generally very average keeper. His doesn't command his area at all, his feet seem rooted to the spot and his distribution is dreadful. We've got to persevere with smithies IMO, who I think has been generally very good.
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