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Post by 1908blue on Dec 27, 2008 12:34:53 GMT 1
matt glennon is perfect where he is on our bench thank god, does not control his area cant get off his line for crosses, hes a good keeper when does not get time to think what is happening in my mind, look against leyton orient started to come and stopped and hesitated which ended up been a goal, smithies as had 1 bad game but all rest of town players did as well so are you sayin drop them aswell!!!!
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Post by spiketheterrier on Dec 27, 2008 13:14:31 GMT 1
After a fairly poor performance from Smithies today, I think it's time to bring Glennon back into the team (I never wanted him dropped in the first place, but that's neither here nor there). Smithies is a talented young keeper, undoubtedly, but IMO Glennon has ability and experience NOW, which is the important thing. I think with Glennon in net, we wouldn't have conceded as many goals as we did - and this is the all important thing - regardless of age or academy/non-academy background. Smithies has had a good little run in the side, putting in some decent performances and gaining some experience, but I think Glennon's more confident and deals better under pressure - we've got to think about results now, there'll come a time when Smithies is our best 'keeper, I'm sure, but that time is not now. WE WANT GLENNON BACK ...   Neither Butler or Berrett scored are they autodropped? ;D |
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Post by timclarkehadhands on Dec 27, 2008 13:17:01 GMT 1
Moderaters please get this whole topic removed...........
Pathetic asking for the lad to be dropped......
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Post by Tez on Dec 27, 2008 13:19:24 GMT 1
It was a Moderater who started this topic! |
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Post by spiketheterrier on Dec 27, 2008 13:19:56 GMT 1
Moderaters please get this whole topic removed........... Pathetic asking for the lad to be dropped...... ;D Me thinks your missing the point of a discussion board? |
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Post by timclarkehadhands on Dec 27, 2008 13:23:09 GMT 1
i aint missing anything im missing the point of discussing the downfalls of a young lad who everyonE WAS RAVING ON ABOUT A WEEK OR SO AGO.....
And at what point did Smithies be at fault yesterday???
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Post by spiketheterrier on Dec 27, 2008 13:25:29 GMT 1
i aint missing anything im missing the point of discussing the downfalls of a young lad who everyone WHO WENT ;)Reckon you've also been missing your english lessons!!!! ;D (F) |
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Post by andyhudd on Dec 27, 2008 13:25:37 GMT 1
I rate Smithies, I'm sure he'll go on to be an excellent young 'keeper - but we've got to think about results now!
Yesterday, I think we'd have done better, in terms of end result, with Matt Glennon in net - that's the most important thing.
I'm not just suggesting this on one performance, I think he looked pretty shaky at times against Hereford, uncertain of when to come out, and he got caught out once or twice.
Why on earth does the topic need removing? It's not a character assassination! It's a discussion about our two 'keepers, both of which I rate.
Competition for the shirt can only be good, but we've got to think about results now, Smithies will continue to progress as a player, and this run has done him nothing but good, I'm sure.
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Post by timclarkehadhands on Dec 27, 2008 13:25:57 GMT 1
discussion board?  ?? more of a im a bigger town fan than you board i reckon!!!! |
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Dec 27, 2008 13:26:17 GMT 1
Moderaters please get this whole topic removed........... Pathetic asking for the lad to be dropped...... LOL good work, maybe we should impose some Shariah Law too while we're at it. Nothing at all wrong with people discussing this. Some want Glennon back in, some want to keep Smithies, thus, debate. |
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Post by specialun on Dec 27, 2008 13:28:11 GMT 1
Bring back ternent! (Joking) The lad's made one mistake, after being named man of the match in the previous game and saving a penalty in the match prior to that to earn us three points! Goodness me, I'm all for high standards, but come on, give him a break! He's made a number of mistakes today, and he looked shaky against Hereford (indecisive when coming out ... caught out once or twice). Glennon had just won MOTM away at Brighton, and then let in ONE soft goal at home to Orient. One mistake, one dropped 'keeper there. Smithies has made more than one mistake, but as I said - he's come on as a player, this has no doubt done him a lot of good, but we've got two good 'keepers, so lets put pressure on them both, to play well to keep the shirt. This is good for the club, and the two individuals. Compltely disgaree re smithies against hereford - I don't think he was indecisive at all. He judged a terrible backpass from butler as well as could have been expected and made qa couple of terrific saves and collected everything well when under pressure. He was man of the match and deservedly so. I agree that glennon was unlucky to be dropped - very unlucky I'd say, but we can't keep changing the team every week if someone misplaces a pass etc. Certainly not in the net. What happens next week if glennon concede a goal he might have done better with? Most fans on here wanted him to be dropped a long time ago (unfairly and wrongly imo) - give them a sniff and they'll want smithies back in. He hadn't just made one mistake, peterborough etc, but he had been given far too much stick for what he is - a good league 1 keeper. Let's just have a bit of patience, smithies has taken his chance and does not deserve to be dropped. |
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Post by spiketheterrier on Dec 27, 2008 13:30:17 GMT 1
Nothing at all wrong with people discussing this. Some want Glennon back in, some want to keep Smithies, thus, debate. ;D or go away!!? ;D |
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Post by timclarkehadhands on Dec 27, 2008 13:30:24 GMT 1
ok discuss this.............
Same people post that Glennon saves pen vs Brighton and gets mom......shouldnt be dropped soon after
Smithies saves pen vs Southend and mom but doesnt matter should be dropped soon after....
nay nay guys.......
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Post by andyhudd on Dec 27, 2008 13:35:15 GMT 1
discussion board? ?? more of a im a bigger town fan than you board i reckon!!!! When have I ever insinuated that? Are you reading the same thread as me? Some fair points specialun ... I just think we need to start the best goalkeeper for HUDDERSFIELD TOWN ... on the day ... the "don't drop Smithies, it'll dent his confidence" argument, could remain valid between now and the end of the season, but it's something you've got to learn to deal with as a professional footballer. I think that Glennon was dropped on the back of very little, but Smithies has had his run in the side, and I'm sure it's done him a lot of good ... but the shirt needs to remain competitive. It's hard to bring Glennon back into the team at any stage, it's hard on Smithies, but it was hard on Glennon to be dropped when he was ... it's great to have two very able goalkeepers and we've got to make the most out of them, IMO, and I feel that the team would ultimately concede less goals, at this moment - with Glennon between the sticks. |
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Post by spiketheterrier on Dec 27, 2008 13:35:29 GMT 1
Was Glennon even dropped bacause of how he played? I've heard not!! 
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Dec 27, 2008 13:38:01 GMT 1
Was Glennon even dropped bacause of how he played? I've heard not!! No, he wasn't. |
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Post by andyhudd on Dec 27, 2008 13:39:11 GMT 1
Which makes it a far less valid change ...
I think that Gerry, was using the power he had, in his last game at the helm, to put one of his youngsters into the big picture. At the time I thought it a bad decision, but Smithies has shown a bit of what he can do ... and he needed a run out in the first team.
I'm not suggesting that whenever one of our 'keepers has a bad game, he should be dropped ... I just feel that Glennon's a better option for the team at the moment ... there'll come a time when Smithies is that man, I'm sure.
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Post by timclarkehadhands on Dec 27, 2008 13:42:01 GMT 1
and why was he dropped then? ? or did they thing it was fair that Alex got a go wearing the gloves? dotn go down the fighting route, because your wrong mate with the chinese wispers youve heard........... What does Glennon bring to the table that Smithies doesnt? ? |
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Post by andyhudd on Dec 27, 2008 13:45:47 GMT 1
This isn't the playstation, where Jimmy's got to have a turn, and then Brian ... it's not about people "getting a go"! I think Glennon looks more confident, and reacts better under pressure. I think he's more decisive and that he'd, at the end of the day, have conceded less goals than Smithies did yesterday. |
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Post by timclarkehadhands on Dec 27, 2008 13:53:15 GMT 1
he would have conceded less goals than Smithies yesterday.....  ....... which goals would he have stopped then??? Glennon looks more confident? which games have you watched fella??? sorry Andy..... moderator/editor of the fanzine/king of the singers/cowshed loyal or whatever you are your argument is poor mate. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 27, 2008 13:53:53 GMT 1
Dont bring back glenda , he makes me nervous everytme ball goes near him. Just one of those days yesterday imo. We were not up for it at all.... very disappointing indeed. Id stick with Alex for a few more games and see how we do !
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Post by wonderousworthy on Dec 27, 2008 14:11:56 GMT 1
OH FFS! What has Glennon done to prove he should be brought back? The number of times we have seen mediocre at bes tand awful performances and every week he is in net! One bad game doesn't mean you should be automatically dropped plus i bet it isn't entirely Smithies fault, but of course there are some Glennon lovers who want him straight back in the team even though asainst hereford if it wasn't for Alex SMithies we would have come away with nothing!
Give the lad chance, i think someone said after the Hereford game that as soon as Smithies has a less than average game people will be calling for his head, oh and guess what here it is. Another thing is Gleenon was dropped for was it behavoural and discipline reasons? when he shows a better attiude and Alex is having some shocking performances then he should be dropped.
Look at when Joe Hart was at Shrewsbury he played every game that season and mase mistakes but look at him now. SMithies will only become a better player with more games. If anything we should be bemoaning the fact that others weren;t up for the game. The goalkeeper is the last line of defence and maybe before blaming SMithies you should look at every individual on the team.
Oh and Andy how the hell does Glenda react better under pressure? I always get worried when he comes for a catch but with SMithies i feel more assured plus SMithies has better distribution! Seems to me that someone doesn't like there favourite player not being in the team!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 27, 2008 14:15:37 GMT 1
Got to agree with you Baron.... did you see Glenda at half time on pitch with other subs, looked uninterested and depressed, his heads not right at moment.... no way would i put him back in. Alex didnt have a chance with the 2nd and 3rd yesterday, like a few are saying we have rode our luck big time, we did at Southend and at home last saturday, Alex should be kept in !!
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Post by andyhudd on Dec 27, 2008 14:19:44 GMT 1
Just because I have a different opinion to you on this one, Brez, it doesn't mean Glennon's my "favourite player" ... or that Smithies ran over my dog.  Yes, I think Glennon does react better under pressure, pulling off some quality saves at short range. I don't think Glennon would have let the first goal in ... for starters ... and I think he's more confident and decisive, Smithies has, at times, hesitated when coming out ... leaving his goal totally uncovered (this happened once or twice last week vs Hereford). I rate both 'keepers ... I don't know either personally ... I'm not biased ... I just have a different opinion to some of you ... |
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Post by boothylegend on Dec 27, 2008 18:37:48 GMT 1
I thought this thread was going to be a touch of sarcasm. Jesus Christ.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2008 18:40:43 GMT 1
Moderaters please get this whole topic removed........... Pathetic asking for the lad to be dropped...... ;D Me thinks your missing the point of a discussion board? Is that what it is? I thought you had to agree with everything certain people post or you`re not allowed to be a Town fan. |
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Post by shawsie on Dec 27, 2008 18:44:04 GMT 1
Got to agree with you Baron.... did you see Glenda at half time on pitch with other subs, looked uninterested and depressed, his heads not right at moment.... no way would i put him back in. Alex didnt have a chance with the 2nd and 3rd yesterday, like a few are saying we have rode our luck big time, we did at Southend and at home last saturday, Alex should be kept in !! If the chinese whispers are correct i can understand glennons dilemma - he wont be here that much longer! We have given Smithies a chance and one game with a few mistakes shouldnt see him dropped - he isnt in my opinion as good as glennon.........yet, but we have given youth a chance and for the longer term good should stick with him for a while yet - after all there are other positions where the current personnel are far worse!!!!!!! |
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Post by townfan4ever on Dec 27, 2008 18:47:04 GMT 1
How much would it knock Alex Smithies confidence if we dropped him after he has had a bad game?
How will he learn from his mistakes?
I agree Glennon should have a few games but just because Smithies has had a bad game that does not mean we should drop him!
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Post by mickydombat on Dec 27, 2008 18:47:31 GMT 1
Glennon back whilst Smithies builds his strength, never thought I'd say it but I have.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2008 19:21:00 GMT 1
Clark has made his bed and he must lie in it with his decision. A goalkeeper will get better given an extended run in the side and that's exactly what Smithies needs. Glennon is a steady keeper who makes a few decent stops and commands his box reasonably well (better than every keeper we've had since Nico Vaesen) but Smit given a run and backing from the management and supporters will go on to become an excellent keeper and possibly the best all round keeper we've had since Steve Harper.
With regards to now I don't think there is a massive amount of difference between the 2 players so I'd stick with the young prodigy for now.
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Neither Butler or Berrett scored are they autodropped? ;D
....... which goals would he have stopped then???
