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Post by philex on Jan 7, 2009 15:07:59 GMT 1
Snow - send that photo to SMJ1 on here I'm sure he'll appreciate it!
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Post by leedsterrier on Jan 7, 2009 15:12:43 GMT 1
The Carlisle fan comment suggests he could be a bit of an Andy Payton. I would imagine that our current management team are confident they can get that out of his system. What the ability to score goals?  |
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Post by jimmyweir384 on Jan 7, 2009 15:14:59 GMT 1
jst been reading that swansea are interested as well
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jan 7, 2009 16:23:24 GMT 1
and now my Carlisle technicians arnt talking to me becuase of this!
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Post by leedsterrier on Jan 7, 2009 16:27:45 GMT 1
and now my Carlisle technicians arnt talking to me becuase of this! If you read the post on their board about the couple on Jeremy Kyle from Cumbria, then I doubt it's a loss ;D |
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Post by wonderousworthy on Jan 7, 2009 16:50:34 GMT 1
What i dont get is Carlisle will probably lose him for nowt as i don;t imagine he will signa new deal especially with the way Carlisle have played this season. If anything i think 250k is a bit too much for a player who is going to be out fo contract!
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Post by leedsterrier on Jan 7, 2009 16:52:55 GMT 1
Won't they get compensation with him being under 24? Perhaps the board are banking on £50k from that and League One survival?
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Jan 7, 2009 16:54:54 GMT 1
I just texted the news to my Carlisle mate.
He politely suggested we could keep our money ;D
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Post by wonderousworthy on Jan 7, 2009 16:55:05 GMT 1
no compensation if a SPL team comes in for him though! Plus if he doesn't sign a contract he will be released so no comp at all....
Graham is a striker we need with a denect goal scoring record. Last time we were in for a striker like him it was Hayter and he would have come if we had the backing we have now! I wouldn't pay a penny over 275-300k though just not worth it.
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Post by pompeyterrier on Jan 7, 2009 17:03:49 GMT 1
I was quite impressed with him in the boxing day game. He seemed to hold the ball up and bring others into play which is something we are missing at the moment. Used his strength well and got in the box whenever possible. With the chances we are creating and the style of football we are playing he looks ideal, hope we can get him.
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Post by dreamboy3000 on Jan 7, 2009 17:12:14 GMT 1
I see the Super Reds are linked to him in the article. Even though we today got rid of Miguel Mostto and have apparently had a bid accepted for Jamie Ward. It's not out of the question that we will get in another striker.
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Post by betsvigi9 on Jan 7, 2009 17:18:55 GMT 1
Won't they get compensation with him being under 24? Perhaps the board are banking on £50k from that and League One survival? I was under the impression that compensation is only payable if the player has come through a clubs youth system? Graham came through the Middlesbrough academy system and only signed for Carlisle in 2007. I could be wrong, but I don't think under those circumstances that any compensation would be payable. It would be like compensating Carlisle for the development work carried out by Middlesbrough. If I am wrong, then I would be grateful if someone could point me in the direction of the rules about compensation for players under the age of 24, as I am interested in reading them. Actually, I just found the regulations, at least I think I have and very complicated they are too. "They state that a players training and education takes place between the ages of 12 and 23." (So presumably, once a player reaches the grand old age of 24, he will not learn anything else. ) The compensation is by way of training compensation payable to any clubs that the player has been trained by up until he reaches the age of 24. It seems to imply that Middlesbrough would be entitled to some of the compensation and that Carlisle would only be entitled to two years training compensation. Can anyone else make head nor tail of it?  www.thefa.com/NR/rdonlyres/FDA331B2-3FA6-4335-8ECB-E394DDA479E2/131371/StatusandTransferofPlayers2008.pdf |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jan 7, 2009 18:40:16 GMT 1
 I can see Graham wanting to come to us, no doubt hes thinking now about joining our geordie management team at a club on the up...... can see us paying up to 450 grand for him by next week ??
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jan 7, 2009 18:49:04 GMT 1
hes a work horse according to the lads in carlisle and they will be gutted if he moves,
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 18:51:46 GMT 1
Won't they get compensation with him being under 24? Perhaps the board are banking on £50k from that and League One survival? I was under the impression that compensation is only payable if the player has come through a clubs youth system? Graham came through the Middlesbrough academy system and only signed for Carlisle in 2007. I could be wrong, but I don't think under those circumstances that any compensation would be payable. It would be like compensating Carlisle for the development work carried out by Middlesbrough. If I am wrong, then I would be grateful if someone could point me in the direction of the rules about compensation for players under the age of 24, as I am interested in reading them. Actually, I just found the regulations, at least I think I have and very complicated they are too. "They state that a players training and education takes place between the ages of 12 and 23." (So presumably, once a player reaches the grand old age of 24, he will not learn anything else. ) The compensation is by way of training compensation payable to any clubs that the player has been trained by up until he reaches the age of 24. It seems to imply that Middlesbrough would be entitled to some of the compensation and that Carlisle would only be entitled to two years training compensation. Can anyone else make head nor tail of it? www.thefa.com/NR/rdonlyres/FDA331B2-3FA6-4335-8ECB-E394DDA479E2/131371/StatusandTransferofPlayers2008.pdfMy interpretation is that they would not be entitled to any, as he was not part of their academy set up? Boro however may have a sell on clause similar to Stead. Using Stead as an example, it would be like Blackburn claiming compensation if he had been out of contract wouldn't it? Not exactly fair as they haven't been all that involved in his formative years. I could be barking up the wrong tree here! ;D |
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Post by C.H on Jan 7, 2009 19:01:38 GMT 1
i didnt realise it was graham that scored the 1st goal and ran over to the hudders fans but his free kick 1st half haha cleared the big screen
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Post by 'Uddersfield on Jan 7, 2009 19:15:27 GMT 1
I don't think he'll come, but he is just what we need.
Let's hope Clark can pull something out the bag here.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jan 7, 2009 19:34:30 GMT 1
well done for locking that silly new danny graham thread.... brainless or wot.....wot ??
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 7, 2009 19:39:52 GMT 1
Carlisle wouldn't be due any compensation if they leave it until hes out of contract and he leaves.
250k seems like a decent offer to me. Other clubs are interested so CUFC must be expecting a bit of a bidding war. Cat and mouse this month, as if they don't accept an offer this month, chances are they'll get nowt, if he chooses to leave in the summer
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jan 7, 2009 19:42:29 GMT 1
Lee Clark seems a very persuasive bloke, we shouldnt offer silly money as im sure we have a few other targets... all good stuff for the next 3 weeks imo.
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Post by terrierng on Jan 7, 2009 19:42:41 GMT 1
think your right about them wanting a bidding war,if graham wants to come he should just do what defoe did,say bollocks im off ,tough shit.
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Post by westhtafc on Jan 7, 2009 19:46:29 GMT 1
That'll be why the bid has been made public. Lets others know of his availability and indeed could start a bidding war, enabling carlisle to get the best price for him. Can't complain really.
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Post by panasonicgeese on Jan 7, 2009 19:47:34 GMT 1
I don't think he'll come, but he is just what we need. Let's hope Clark can pull something out the bag here. The attraction of our management team could pull this move out of the bag. As LC said last night "once we pull off one quality signing, the domino effect will happen" and I think he is so right. I was very pleased with our new management team when it all came together, but after last night's meeting I left the meeting buzzing. LC and his team are going places and its more a case of when rather than if. If Graham goes elsewhere or stays at Carlisle it's his loss. Town are on the up! |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 7, 2009 19:53:08 GMT 1
He obviously enjoyed celebrating in front of Town fans, so maybe wants to do it more often.
This is where the lure of our new management team and chairman might work to our advantage.
Someone else, say Swansea, might come in with a 300k bid, which CUFC would obviously prefer to our 250k bid, but the player himself might look at it - the clubs, the coaches hell be working with, the area of the country etc, and think ,no, I'd prefer to join Huddersfield.
CUFC can't force him to sign for someone he doesn't want to, and they know he can see out the rest of his 6 months and leave for nothing.
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Post by terrierng on Jan 7, 2009 19:56:33 GMT 1
He obviously enjoyed celebrating in front of Town fans, so maybe wants to do it more often. This is where the lure of our new management team and chairman might work to our advantage. Someone else, say Swansea, might come in with a 300k bid, which CUFC would obviously prefer to our 250k bid, but the player himself might look at it - the clubs, the coaches hell be working with, the area of the country etc, and think ,no, I'd prefer to join Huddersfield. CUFC can't force him to sign for someone he doesn't want to, and they know he can see out the rest of his 6 months and leave for nothing. bit like stead when he left for blackburn?didnt sunderland offer more originally?or am i getting mixed up? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2009 19:59:45 GMT 1
I hope Clarky boy knows what he's doing and this isnt another case of Junior Mendes syndrome that Jacko got. Lets hope they have seen and scouted him more than just that one game
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Post by terrierng on Jan 7, 2009 20:04:02 GMT 1
I hope Clarky boy knows what he's doing and this isnt another case of Junior Mendes syndrome that Jacko got. Lets hope they have seen and scouted him more than just that one game his record speaks for itself though,okay he impressed against us but is also one of the leading scorers in league one,any club worth its salt will have scouted him,probably knew of him when at norwich. |
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jan 7, 2009 20:06:01 GMT 1
I hope Clarky boy knows what he's doing and this isnt another case of Junior Mendes syndrome that Jacko got. Lets hope they have seen and scouted him more than just that one game i know alot of carlisle fans at work and there not happy at the prospect of loosing him. they say he grafts hard for the whole 90 mintues, has good physical presence, scores goals often, a drags defences all over the place. |
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Post by 'Uddersfield on Jan 7, 2009 20:17:02 GMT 1
I don't think he'll come, but he is just what we need. Let's hope Clark can pull something out the bag here. The attraction of our management team could pull this move out of the bag. As LC said last night "once we pull off one quality signing, the domino effect will happen" and I think he is so right. I was very pleased with our new management team when it all came together, but after last night's meeting I left the meeting buzzing. LC and his team are going places and its more a case of when rather than if. If Graham goes elsewhere or stays at Carlisle it's his loss. Town are on the up! Like, as has been already mentioned, it's been mentioned clearly to start a bidding war. Nothing has leaked from our end, the Carlisle chairman did an interview with the local paper and discussed it. If Championship teams come in, we're screwed. Yes, we have a great backroom staff that is clear to everyone, but our manager is unproven. We all know that he's quality, others more than likely won't. I don't think the management team is THAT big a pulling power, more than likely money and status if modern times are to go by. Also, the chairman said the bid was WAY below what was expected. So I'd expect them to be aiming for around 500k, given that Garner went for 1.1million in the summer. I doubt we'd pay that, and quite rightly so. I'm not trying to moan or anything, I'd like to see Graham at the club, I'm just pessimistic as to whether it will happen or not because I'm so used to having has-beens and dead-wood rather than a clubs top performer.. |
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Post by dyson84 on Jan 7, 2009 20:26:36 GMT 1
i believe it was David Graham we had on loan a few years back not Danny.
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I can see Graham wanting to come to us, no doubt hes thinking now about joining our geordie management team at a club on the up...... can see us paying up to 450 grand for him by next week ??
