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Post by TerrierArmy on Jan 27, 2009 13:54:33 GMT 1
Nah he won't be anywhere near that good. Stewart was an absolute legend and he should have played for England at some point. he was a very good player but i think england is pushing it abit well bloody Michael Ricketts got a game i nthe three lions and Stewart was twice nar three nope ten times the playeer he was. He did finish 2nd top goalscorer in the PREMIERSHIP and top english scorer too in one season.
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Post by hotdog on Jan 27, 2009 13:55:23 GMT 1
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Post by jj365 on Jan 27, 2009 13:55:40 GMT 1
Play for a team like Bristol? a) It's Bristol ROVERS. You wouldn't refer to Sheff Utd as Sheffield. and b) Your only four ahead of us should we win our games in hand (granted we probably won't). We're no Brazil but we're a half decent side at this level. In answer to your point B mate, yeah sorry about this, that comment makes us sound like our supposedly more illustrious neighbours who tend to belittle us at times!! I think what is meant, and without getting carried away, we are on a real up at the moment!! Playing great football, good crowds, a great managment team and some money to spend!! I guess we would like to think we are going places and could therefore attract someone of Lambert's quality and why we feel he would be better with us than you!!! Fair enough, nothing like abit of optimism. We are due to be starting the process of rebuilding our ground in May which will see the Mem turned into a 18,000 all seater. Like yourselves, we've potentially got a decent support our there. Your form of late has been decent as well, although I'd imagine your time will come next season as opposed to this. Can someone also inform me of how you are financing all these big money transfers of late?
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Post by SpiralStatic on Jan 27, 2009 13:57:01 GMT 1
Marcus Stewart got an England call up (or was in line for one) at Ipswich but got himself injured.
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Post by runner76 on Jan 27, 2009 14:00:51 GMT 1
The 'reliable' source is probably the Sun - it's the same amount of cash they are talking about........
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Post by therealyogibear on Jan 27, 2009 14:01:23 GMT 1
In answer to your point B mate, yeah sorry about this, that comment makes us sound like our supposedly more illustrious neighbours who tend to belittle us at times!! I think what is meant, and without getting carried away, we are on a real up at the moment!! Playing great football, good crowds, a great managment team and some money to spend!! I guess we would like to think we are going places and could therefore attract someone of Lambert's quality and why we feel he would be better with us than you!!! Fair enough, nothing like abit of optimism. We are due to be starting the process of rebuilding our ground in May which will see the Mem turned into a 18,000 all seater. Like yourselves, we've potentially got a decent support our there. Your form of late has been decent as well, although I'd imagine your time will come next season as opposed to this. Can someone also inform me of how you are financing all these big money transfers of late? Our owner is HTFC through and through and is the owner of The Card Factory" He is no Roman Abramovich but his love for the club has given us this chance. This guy has been a breath of fresh air to the club but long the spending continues for who knows!
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Post by mattyterrier2k8 on Jan 27, 2009 14:19:01 GMT 1
id be happy if this happened, if we dont get in the play offs this season id say we have a squad good enough for an automatic next season. Cant see lambert coming here tbh he could get in most championship teams but then again people said that about pilks and lionel.
didnt lambert score 4 in one game this season and a 40 yard free kick or somat?
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Post by SL0 on Jan 27, 2009 14:21:53 GMT 1
Don't forget we will still need to balance the books so IF lambert comes for 750K, who (1 or 2 or more) will go, that will help pay some of this money back?? Just a thought!
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Post by andyeastleake on Jan 27, 2009 14:25:31 GMT 1
For all you doubters out there. He's second top scorer in our league. He's got the 4th best goals game ratio in the whole of England, and he is a big man. Have you seen his physical presence? He ran the game at the Galpharm earlier this season, he can score free-kicks, headers, 40 yardvolleys and clever tap ins. He is a supreme striker. He's gone off the boil a lttle bit this month, which is surely a bonus to us, because it'll bring down his price, and also ward off potential buyers from the championship. If we id a million for him i woulnd't complain, you've got to be something special to be second top scorer in the league when you play for a team like Bristol Play for a team like Bristol? a) It's Bristol ROVERS. You wouldn't refer to Sheff Utd as Sheffield. and b) Your only four ahead of us should we win our games in hand (granted we probably won't). We're no Brazil but we're a half decent side at this level. Re point (a) you're being too touchy. If on a long thread it had been clear which Sheffield club was being talked about I'm pretty sure a lot of people would call them Sheffield. Re (b) You're forgetting that at Huddersfield we've come to the decision the season didn't really start until early November when that very nice man Stan Ternent departed. (We're just waiting for the football league to agree with us). Since then we've got more than double your points which I think more accurately reflects the current differences between the clubs (We're not Brazil either (or even Leicester yet) & I hope that comes across as a fair assessment of the position rather than arrogance).
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Post by mattyterrier2k8 on Jan 27, 2009 14:28:41 GMT 1
i can think of at least 4 that need to go but who would want them id go for this
GET RID OF THESE IF WE CAN
lucketti unsworth kamara booth worthington
LOAN THESE OUT scarz flynn
thats 7 wages of the bil and weve already got 4 out on loan, like i said though getting shut is easier said than done.
scarz
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Post by gledholt terrier on Jan 27, 2009 14:31:36 GMT 1
Play for a team like Bristol? a) It's Bristol ROVERS. You wouldn't refer to Sheff Utd as Sheffield. and b) Your only four ahead of us should we win our games in hand (granted we probably won't). We're no Brazil but we're a half decent side at this level. Re point (a) you're being too touchy. If on a long thread it had been clear which Sheffield club was being talked about I'm pretty sure a lot of people would call them Sheffield. Re (b) You're forgetting that at Huddersfield we've come to the decision the season didn't really start until early November when that very nice man Stan Ternent departed. (We're just waiting for the football league to agree with us). Since then we've got more than double your points which I think more accurately reflects the current differences between the clubs (We're not Brazil either (or even Leicester yet) & I hope that comes across as a fair assessment of the position rather than arrogance). I remember being amazed at how many Rovers took to Wembley in 95 - they have massive potential and if anyone ever had a real go with that potential I think they would become bigger than City (IIRC the Gas get their support mainly from the outlying areas of Bristol which is a huge potential fanbase)
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Post by townatheart on Jan 27, 2009 14:32:01 GMT 1
i can think of at least 4 that need to go but who would want them id go for this GET RID OF THESE IF WE CAN lucketti unsworth kamara booth worthington LOAN THESE OUT scarz flynn thats 7 wages of the bil and weve already got 4 out on loan, like i said though getting shut is easier said than done. scarz would keep lucketti and booth myself. lucketti for defensive cover and booth, well officially for that something different in a back up roll, but really out of pure sentiment (at least for the rest of this season). that would still be a decent drop in the wages budget, IF it could be accomplished. edit - as far was worthy goes, i do not WANT him to go, one of my favorite players from a commitment and application perspective, however, do not see him being in first team regularily,and to be fair to the lad, he deserves to be playing first team football, so may have to move on to allow him to achieve what he is capable of.
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Post by CaptainHart on Jan 27, 2009 14:34:55 GMT 1
Don't forget we will still need to balance the books so IF lambert comes for 750K, who (1 or 2 or more) will go, that will help pay some of this money back?? Just a thought! The only player who we’d want to leave and would bring in money is Worthy. All the others (who we’d want to leave) would probably cost us money to get rid of.
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Post by dreamboy3000 on Jan 27, 2009 14:36:24 GMT 1
Is he really going to join you? It all looks fishy to me. You've bid under half of what a player of his quality will probably actually cost, so if it doesn't go through it looks like you at least tried, although had no real chance to get him. Great PR though being linked to players. I think Barnsley should bid 1 million quid for Kaka and when they turn it down at least us fans can say we tried
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Post by mattyterrier2k8 on Jan 27, 2009 14:43:11 GMT 1
just like the lee*s fans said why do we keep going for players we have no chance of getting (ie pilkington and ainsworth) will have to see and leeds fans are only a bit more stupid than barnsley utt
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Post by thrice on Jan 27, 2009 14:45:56 GMT 1
This would be a simply sensational coup for us. The fella is not only the big target man that is just what we are after but he is also prolific, young and hungry. He ticks all the boxes. God knows where the comparisons with Jevons come from. Those two are chalk & cheese.
Jeez I'm excited by this.
Rovers are a great little big club by the way. Their support for one off games outstrips ours for sure. As well as the 35K they had at Wembley against us I was amongst some 40K Rovers fans in a Leyland Daf cup final a few years earlier V Tranmere (Ian Muir overhead kick winner). The last striker we poached off them did not do too bad for us did he and I reckon Lambert could have a similar impact on our current team.
Irene good night Irene.....
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Post by thrice on Jan 27, 2009 14:46:53 GMT 1
As for the money issue.
What price could we put on promotion???
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Post by AndySk on Jan 27, 2009 14:49:56 GMT 1
Rovers are a great little big club by the way. Wonderful oxymoron
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Post by townatheart on Jan 27, 2009 14:50:36 GMT 1
This would be a simply sensational coup for us. The fella is not only the big target man that is just what we are after but he is also prolific, young and hungry. He ticks all the boxes. God knows where the comparisons with Jevons come from. Those two are chalk & cheese. Jeez I'm excited by this. Rovers are a great little big club by the way. Their support for one off games outstrips ours for sure. As well as the 35K they had at Wembley against us I was amongst some 40K Rovers fans in a Leyland Daf cup final a few years earlier V Tranmere (Ian Muir overhead kick winner). The last striker we poached off them did not do too bad for us did he and I reckon Lambert could have a similar impact on our current team. Irene good night Irene..... positive post, especially the rightful respect towards Bristol Rovers.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 27, 2009 14:51:06 GMT 1
Why on earth would you loan out Flynn - pointless exercise surely for a 28 year old, who I suspect is one of the better earners at the club
What has Booth done to be on that list other than get injured, (off the top of my head) in about 4 games he's actually scored as many goals as Jevons and Parker this season, yet you'd keep them! I'd bomb either / both of Jevons or Parker for Boothy because neither have done enough this season. I honestly think Broadbent and Denton can feel hard done not to have played more given how utterly toothless our strikers have been considering the dozen or so chances we're creating most matches - they couldn't exactly do much worse!
Have said a few times why I'd keep Worthy, without Worthy to keep Goodwin on his toes I worry he'd let his high standards slip, it's only two months since Goodwin looked a garbage midfielder who only seemed able to kick people and look lost as play passed him by! Also Goodwin is on nine yellows, one off a second ban. If he'd not been dropped in Autumn I'm sure he'd have passed the 10 yellow mark (people would be aplocolypic if Worthy had that record, especially as a lot of the yellows were IMO needless, e.g. Saturdays) and I'd be amazed if JG doesn't get 15 yellows this season (I can still see him getting a couple of reds also). That said Worthy is totally essential because Goodwin WILL miss games between now and May and I wouldn't want Flynn or even worse Craney playing as a ball winner next to Collins!
I also don't think Kamara is a bad player however in both those cases a myth has developed that because they're not in the first team they're bad footballers! I could argue the same logic is starting to apply to Booth. The same rule applied to Collins when he was left out!
Lucketti should go because he is one if not the biggest earner on the books
Unsworth should go because I've about as much chance of playing in the first team as he does
One of Flynn or Craney should go because we're overstocked on attacking midfielders
And while it's a shame I think Kamara should leave
That would represent four out (all at a guess bar Kamara on big wages) and four in. Books just about balanced except for the transfter fees
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Post by CaptainHart on Jan 27, 2009 14:59:54 GMT 1
Lucketti should go because he is one if not the biggest earner on the books Unsworth should go because I've about as much chance of playing in the first team as he does One of Flynn or Craney should go because we're overstocked on attacking midfielders And while it's a shame I think Kamara should leave The problem is that we’d have to pay them off. Lucketti will cost us a fair wedge to get off the books, Flynn and Craney are probably on decent contracts and it’s unlikely anyone will match them so they’ll cost us as well. Kamara and Unsworth only have six months left but any settlement probably won’t save us much.
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Post by therealyogibear on Jan 27, 2009 15:05:52 GMT 1
I also don't think Kamara is a bad player however in both those cases a myth has developed that because they're not in the first team they're bad footballers! I could argue the same logic is starting to apply to Booth. The same rule applied to Collins when he was left out! Completely agree with this "myth" Some people have very short memories
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2009 15:10:38 GMT 1
talksport are reporting they expect the deal to be completed. Its a bit OTT if its paper talk, that radio station has little credibility.
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Post by thrice on Jan 27, 2009 15:11:27 GMT 1
The only myth associated with Kammy is pace.
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Post by aca00js on Jan 27, 2009 15:11:41 GMT 1
Players who longer are needed are:
Unsworth - he'll be on a decent wage and have cover at both CB and LB now
Kamara - Like him but he is now 5th choice winger behind Cads, Roberts, Pilkington and Ainsworth
Flynn - Have Collins and Crainey, and he'll be on a decent wage and isn't really good enough for the next level (the same could be said about Crainey)
Worths - Love to keep him but I can see Berrett and Clarke coming in for Goodwin, hope I'm wrong and he stays
I'd keep Lucketti as cover for Clarke and Butler. We have T. Clarke and Lucketti ready to come in for them. He was playing well before his suspension in my view
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Post by Captainslapper on Jan 27, 2009 15:12:00 GMT 1
Think its come from these last few seasons where if a player WASN'T in the team, then he probably was not very good, baring in mind the weakness of our squad. Don't think people have got used to having a strong squad yet!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2009 15:13:14 GMT 1
For now, I'd keep Lucketti and Worthington, and get rid of Flynn, Kamara and Unsworth (if possible)
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Post by townatheart on Jan 27, 2009 15:20:24 GMT 1
Think its come from these last few seasons where if a player WASN'T in the team, then he probably was not very good, baring in mind the weakness of our squad. Don't think people have got used to having a strong squad yet! Captain and Hudds Terrier -- please clarify, are you both saying the Kamara is a good enough footballer to take us to the next level we need to achieve? I agree to a point with what I think is the point you are making, and no Kamara is not a BAD player, but there is a difference between an honest hard working likeable lad, and a football player with the requiste level of skill and application to play at a higher level. And sorry, imo anyway, kamara does not fit that description at all.
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Jan 27, 2009 15:36:08 GMT 1
Bristol Rovers fans on their messageboard seem to think there's no chance of this one going through, they're suggesting we're unsettling him via the media.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2009 15:37:03 GMT 1
Bristol Rovers fans on their messageboard seem to think there's no chance of this one going through, they're suggesting we're unsettling him via the media. I read that. They are probably just in denial if they think there is no chance of it happening.
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