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Post by runner76 on Feb 28, 2009 18:52:00 GMT 1
"The Play-Offs are still a possibility, without a shadow of a doubt. I wasn't the brightest at school but we have thirteen games left and that gives us a possible 39 points, so let's see where we can go."
From OS.
That's exactly what I am thinking. Upwards and Onwards...........
TTID
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Post by pozza on Feb 28, 2009 18:53:10 GMT 1
Not a chance.
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Post by runner76 on Feb 28, 2009 18:59:40 GMT 1
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Post by Yorkie on Feb 28, 2009 19:01:51 GMT 1
It would take 2 home wins for me to even consider thinking they are still on and even then it's MK and Tranmere away. Lost too many points now from games like today, northampton and hartlepool. Next season tho is ours!
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Post by pozza on Feb 28, 2009 19:02:53 GMT 1
Just being realistic. No point in getting me sen all excited just to be dissapointed.
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Post by pling on Feb 28, 2009 19:05:22 GMT 1
Conveniently doesn't mention his tactics not excactly being spot on...
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Post by yanfan on Feb 28, 2009 19:09:47 GMT 1
we are going nowhere until we can score more than one goal per game---simple as.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 19:21:11 GMT 1
Just being realistic. No point in getting me sen all excited just to be dissapointed. Bit like xmas after the age of 12
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Feb 28, 2009 19:24:06 GMT 1
Conveniently doesn't mention his tactics not excactly being spot on... Didn't see too much wrong with the tactics today, I thought we were the better team, and on that pitch too.
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Post by SaleTerrier on Feb 28, 2009 19:35:14 GMT 1
Conveniently doesn't mention his tactics not excactly being spot on...
Didn't see too much wrong with the tactics today, I thought we were the better team, and on that pitch too.
agree with this ^^
we were the better team for most of the game - should have put it to bed, and a poss penalty for the push on booth
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Post by Tez on Feb 28, 2009 19:39:50 GMT 1
Ah well split hairs by all accounts looking on here. Roll on Tues and Sat. Two big home games.... at least our home record is decent.
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Post by latto on Feb 28, 2009 19:42:58 GMT 1
Consolidate for next season my yorkshire sheepies. look forward to your derby with bradford.
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Post by Tez on Feb 28, 2009 19:44:29 GMT 1
You still not tempted to get a Town ticket
You spend that much time on here.
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Post by jimmynich on Feb 28, 2009 20:01:03 GMT 1
The season went last week for me----sure we need to tinker with the squad but the players need to be mentally tougher and not sure if that can be coached,
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Post by Tez on Feb 28, 2009 20:06:36 GMT 1
Mental side = Steve Black?? Aint this his job.
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Post by Floyds on Feb 28, 2009 20:07:49 GMT 1
it cant be coached - thats why the current underperformers (90% of them) would be on their way in an ideal world.
the whole mentality of the town players is wrong and has been for ages - time for a complete overhaul in the summer if we are to get anywhere otherwise we will be in exactly the same place as we are now in another 3 seasons!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 20:16:38 GMT 1
The players aren't playing for the club like they we're when Murphy had control. Don't know why or how he did it, but he seemed to be able to give the players that little bit of extra belief, and ability to play to the whistle. Clark needs to sort this out asap.
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 28, 2009 20:28:14 GMT 1
Consolidate for next season my yorkshire sheepies. look forward to your derby with bradford. Is that seven that Shitty have let in against teams near the bottom in the last week ?
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Post by edwardstagg on Feb 28, 2009 20:34:56 GMT 1
Just being realistic. No point in getting me sen all excited just to be dissapointed. Idiot.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2009 20:41:09 GMT 1
Just being realistic. No point in getting me sen all excited just to be dissapointed. Idiot. Staggy, we aren't going to get anywhere near the play offs unless we start banging some goals in. We're no more prolific now than when Jevo and Parker we're getting hammered for not scoring. If we want to play at Wembley this year, we need to find a lot of goals from somewhere. I'm afraid I share Pozza's sentiments. Calling him an idiot is a tad harsh.
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Post by edwardstagg on Feb 28, 2009 20:44:10 GMT 1
Well, no. There is no point going about the situation with a negative attitude like usual. This Club is supposed to be moving forward and in order to do that WE have to move forward and be positive too. As Clark said, 39 points available and just a little run of 4 or 5 games will see us with 12/15 points. I believe we can still go up and so should you!!! After all we are the greatses team in West Yorkshire, not to mention the biggest
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Post by pozza on Feb 28, 2009 20:51:23 GMT 1
I'm an idiot because I dont think we will make the plays offs? Fair enough Can you HONESTLY see us making the Play Offs this season now? Bearing in mind our current form, lack of ability to score, and the fact we've still got to play 4 other teams that will be fighting for a play off place? Way I see it, there are 13 games left. We're effectivly 7 points from the Play Offs at the moment (taking in account our terrible goal difference) so, we need to win 3 just to get back on level terms, and hope that the 5/6 teams who are also challenging for the Play Offs pick up no points at all. That would then leave 10 more games. When you think we have to play MK Dons away (2nd) Scunthopre away (7th) and Tranmere away (9th) who will all be fighting for points as well, given our terrible away form to present do you think we'll be bringing many points from any of these games? So if you take them games out of it, then that leaves 7 games. Can you see us winning possibly 5 of these which is what it will need as other teams will be winning as well. Bear in mind we've only won more than 2 games in a row once this season? Thats a hell of a lot of things that need to happen to enable us to get a Play Off spot, and I personally cant see us doing it. If it makes me an idiot to think that, then fair enough, but i'll think you'll find a lot of people that think the same way as me.
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Post by queensburyterrier on Feb 28, 2009 21:01:40 GMT 1
Pozza, don't forget, to be apart of the "in crowd" on this board you MUST agree, and be positive all the time... Another season goes by with me saying "there's always next year" knowing full well we won't do it, yet again. I didn't go today, because the inept performance away to Crewe was the final straw for me... I suppose there's always next year though...
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Post by Tez on Feb 28, 2009 21:05:19 GMT 1
I'm personally fed up of saying 'watch us fly next season. We'll storm it' every season. Wish it happens next year though.
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Post by marshterrier on Feb 28, 2009 21:06:08 GMT 1
We've got absolutely no chance of making the play-offs whilst picking up 1 point every three games. We've had yet another 'wasted' season, just hope that the next one is a bit different.
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Post by boothylegend on Feb 28, 2009 21:10:39 GMT 1
6 points off the Play Off's. 39 to play for.
He didn't say he expected us to make them, but they're still possible. Whilst they're still possible we should be fighting for them.
We all know that we're weak in attack, but maybe in the last 13 we'll scrape a few 1-0's that would've been 1-2's or 1-1's in the previous few weeks. It's a long shot, but let's at least have a go.
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Post by shawsie on Feb 28, 2009 21:11:37 GMT 1
The players aren't playing for the club like they we're when Murphy had control. Don't know why or how he did it, but he seemed to be able to give the players that little bit of extra belief, and ability to play to the whistle. Clark needs to sort this out asap. Are you being serious??!!!! I agree partly with floyd - there is a softness in the players mentally, particularly those who have come through the academy. They all have some talent and are neat and tidy, but too often they undo all the hard work with lapses in concentration! Leicester away was a prime example - for long spells we played the better football and created chances, but going to sleep at set pieces cost us any chance of a result.
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Post by Sheriff Of Marsden on Feb 28, 2009 22:07:57 GMT 1
Come on Boys theres plenty of reasons to remain optimistic for next season. The fact that we even have a sniff at the playoffs after the opening 15 games is an achievement in itself.
Every Club in the land will be saying the same things we are come August but our hopes for promotion will finally be built on some solid foundations. We are still improving, Lee Clark is a rookie manager, he's bound to make mistakes. Don't forget that we were coming up against a strong side which has beaten most of the top teams this season at their place, plus we never do anything at Stockport anyway.
Support is back too which says alot about the opinions of those who aren't in the hardcore away support. I can't get to hardly any games now due to working. It's funny how much I miss going !
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Post by TomTheTerrier on Feb 28, 2009 22:10:19 GMT 1
How much of an overall does the club need, we have signed so many new players this season. People mention the academy players being too soft and lacking in concentration yet we have just given Clarke an extended contract so he wont be one moving on. Lee Clark and his team cant be immued from critism, he changed the shape of the team and we conceded a goal and threw away another game, that was his decsion and it was the wrong one. I admire the optimism on here, but in my view, we will finish no higher than 8th this season. We would need championship winning form to get into and stay in the play offs, that isnt suddently going to happen over night Changing the shape of the team was the right decision and in a footballing sense it worked. Their goal was a freak goal that couldn't be helped. Surely people can see this... Sometimes, these things happen.
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Post by specialun on Feb 28, 2009 22:28:20 GMT 1
Agree with you on this tom. 1st half was as one way traffic at a game as you will see from team's in the same level.
Stockport changed to 3 upfront and after struggling with a back 4 against three strikers, I could understand bringing another defender on after how we struggled we 3 strikers last week.
Its easy to blame the tactics and say we sat back but we hadn't been pressing as much from about 10 mins into the 2nd half.
He rightly brough on boothy (perhaps 5 mins too late), and had to take cadders off who was shattered. But whilst we were creating chances (pilkington's sitter, cadders pass when he could have shot, pilkington's blocke shot etc), don't forget smithies had made two excellent saves when balls had been played off one of the three strikers for shots on the edge of the areas.
I wouldn't say it was a freak goal but it could have gone anywhere - I was more disappointed that we didn't close the ball from the throwing and with a cross we didn't clear it.
But in the last 30 minutes, they were as likely to score as us as we didn't press enough high up the pitch- not just the last 5 mins as a result of the tactics.
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