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Post by 3Pipe on Jun 5, 2012 21:31:38 GMT 1
he was my second choice behind Graysonermm he is Grayson I'm trying to watch TT.
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jun 5, 2012 21:39:51 GMT 1
The majority of points on here are debatable but the one thing I strongly disagree with is about Clark not been a bottler. He clearly bottled in when it mattered twice - Millwall and Peterborough. The fact is, he couldn't get us over the finish line and Grayson could. Rather than raking over what could have beens and defending a man who is now confined to the HTFC history vault, why not embrace our new Manager? A already very succesful manager with a great reputation in the game. A manager who has got us up, given us what we have all wanted for the last 11 years! So if Grayson had failed to win at Wembley in a game of tight margins, would he have been labelled a 'bottler' by you too ? Is that your definition ? Failed in the playoffs = bottler ? Millwall we just couldn't break them down. What Clark did after that was try (and succeed) to make us a team hard to beat, allbeit at the expense of good football. I've accepted our new manager, I rate him, he was my second choice behind Warnock. I agree with folks saying it's too early to judge him but he came through exactly when it mattered. are you talking the piss with that comment? Millwall screwed us every which way but! it was men against school boys and your hero was never the same person again!
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Post by Scissett Terrier! on Jun 5, 2012 22:00:31 GMT 1
'My hero' ? Grow up sunshine. Fook off back to your twitter rumours and 'my cousin in the betting business' rumours eh. Give the adults a chance if you can't discuss football without coming across as a complete moron. Is that the best you can do? i seem to remember you getting a bit childish before when you had no argument, to the extent the admins had to intervene! I don't know one town fan who didnt think we got smashed at Millwall, your comment of "Millwall we just couldn't break them down" is the single funniest thing i've ever seen on here. We we're absolutely destroyed!
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Post by 007Berlin on Jun 6, 2012 2:28:38 GMT 1
or lucky Lucky to have those players ? Lucky to have one of the best strikers outside the prem ? Lucky to have Johnson back from injury ? Lucky to be up against a side depleted by prison and suspension ? Lucky Bennett got injured ? Or lucky to have gone within a post width of ballsing it all up ? What is this luck you refer to ? Johnson only got injured when Clark ridiculously played him at Tranmere
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Post by sowerbyterrier2 on Jun 6, 2012 6:41:15 GMT 1
So Clark was building a lasting legacy at Huddersfield. . . Unless he got sacked. At which point everything subsequent had nothing to do with him, and everything to do with luck?
Clark did build the team and deserves some refit for finding one or two gems in amongst his scatter gun approach. His man management skills "appeared" to be poor, and it looked like the players had lost the desire to fight for him. For that reason I believe it was the right decision to sack him. Grayson got the players fired up for the playoffs, and however it was achieved, he did overcome two very good teams in the finals.
At the end of the day, I am far more confident going forward with Grayson than I was clark.
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Post by cheesyhtfc on Jun 6, 2012 8:51:23 GMT 1
I said at the time that if we went up it would be a good decision and if we stayed down it would be (at best) and indifferent decision; we went up so it was a good decision. As far as I'm concerned, Clark laid the foundations that Grayson built on to push us over the line. Good luck to Clark with whatever job he ends up with, onwards and upwards with Grayson!
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Post by Floyds on Jun 6, 2012 8:59:04 GMT 1
I wouldn't have said sacking Clark was even a gamble, even had we stayed down. 17 points from 36 (I think?), 2 failed playoff campaigns (both miserable defeats) and poor performance after poor performance.
Grayson didn't win me over initially with his Gudjohnsen/Kay effort.
But what he did do was cobble together a side that somehow got their way to the Championship - and he deserves all the credit for that - I never thought that group of players would win promotion so fair play to him.
In hindsight, it was 100% the correct decision - not sure anyone can disagree with that, now that we are a Championship club.
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Jun 6, 2012 13:03:30 GMT 1
I wouldn't have said sacking Clark was even a gamble, even had we stayed down. 17 points from 36 (I think?), 2 failed playoff campaigns (both miserable defeats) and poor performance after poor performance. Grayson didn't win me over initially with his Gudjohnsen/Kay effort. But what he did do was cobble together a side that somehow got their way to the Championship - and he deserves all the credit for that - I never thought that group of players would win promotion so fair play to him. In hindsight, it was 100% the correct decision - not sure anyone can disagree with that, now that we are a Championship club. Exactly what I would have said. I thought we had made a mistake in sacking Clark when we did. But Deano's decision has been justified.
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Post by dougie73 on Jun 7, 2012 8:35:22 GMT 1
Grayson got us up but might easily have not done if Simonsen scores and we miss the next one. Clark might have got us up winning in normal time. Who knows??? its all complete hypothetical waste of time ifs buts and maybes. End of day the long term decision to replace Clark was in my opinion the right one and id say that now even if we were still in league 1. Hoyle had lost faith in Clark and thought there was a better chance of getting up under someone different and regardless of the outcome i think he was right to follow his instinct.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2012 8:43:53 GMT 1
I was pro Clark now I'm pro Grayson
I'm mental
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Post by sudbury on Jun 7, 2012 11:40:41 GMT 1
Have always wondered where we would be now if Mr Hoyle had accepted my suggestion and had appointed Adkins instead of Clark.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2012 11:49:02 GMT 1
Me too. I vividly remember thinking at the time he should bring in Guardiola and half the Barca squad. Instead he got Clark. He clearly knows nothing about football compared to me. : : Sacking Clark and bringing in Larry was a gamble that risked disrupting the squad and causing reputational damage to DH and the club. It was a very brave decision which can only be applauded. :appl: :appl: :appl: :appl: Revelling in hindsight is far easier than having the guts and the foresight to act in the first place. Well played all involved.
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Post by dougie73 on Jun 7, 2012 11:51:02 GMT 1
I was pro Clark now I'm pro Grayson |
Thats what we all should be. Being a Clark fan and then becoming a Grayson fan is nothing to be ashamed of because we support HTFC whoever is in charge. Its laughable that people feel the need to be in one camp or the other.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 6, 2015 21:32:38 GMT 1
Suicide
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 21:39:36 GMT 1
I'm betting 10 more pages by the end of the week.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 6, 2015 21:41:48 GMT 1
With some of the comments on here it's a good job Ched ended up in the slammer!
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Post by mightyterrier on Jul 6, 2015 21:42:51 GMT 1
Seems like somebody wants a little bit of attention?
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