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Post by efesodje23 on Apr 6, 2015 18:43:55 GMT 1
Right I think we are safe. U21s HAVE to be more involved now. no they don't
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2015 21:06:56 GMT 1
Game tomorrow the 7th. U21s at Canalside against Crewe 1-0 kick off.
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Post by benmsmith4 on Apr 6, 2015 21:19:48 GMT 1
Boyle started for Kidderminster today. Lost 0-3 but don't know if that can be attributed to him!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 16:21:43 GMT 1
Jack Boyle looks quality
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Post by HTAFC Darren on Apr 9, 2015 23:10:29 GMT 1
We could do with a free kick taker
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Post by togterrier on Apr 10, 2015 12:38:23 GMT 1
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 11, 2015 19:41:16 GMT 1
U18's Won 2-0 this morning and are now only one win away from retaining their title
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Post by benmsmith4 on Apr 13, 2015 16:07:15 GMT 1
30-Yard strike from Billing meant the game finished 1-1 and postponed Forest winning the league today. Town look set to finish 2nd with 2 games left.
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Post by jqhtfc on Apr 13, 2015 16:11:53 GMT 1
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Post by benmsmith4 on Apr 13, 2015 16:49:17 GMT 1
Among all the talk about youth players I remembered that Danny Carr was still on our books. Had a look at his record for Dagenham and Redbridge: played around 45mins IN TOTAL since February. Somehow I don't think he'll be with us next season!
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Apr 13, 2015 20:25:43 GMT 1
Among all the talk about youth players I remembered that Danny Carr was still on our books. Had a look at his record for Dagenham and Redbridge: played around 45mins IN TOTAL since February. Somehow I don't think he'll be with us next season! If Daniel Carr is a professional footballer next season I'll be very surprised. He's never looked anything like good enough on the various times I've seen him, he's not even looked good enough for the u21s really.
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Post by COWleySHED on Apr 13, 2015 20:51:48 GMT 1
Among all the talk about youth players I remembered that Danny Carr was still on our books. Had a look at his record for Dagenham and Redbridge: played around 45mins IN TOTAL since February. Somehow I don't think he'll be with us next season! If Daniel Carr is a professional footballer next season I'll be very surprised. He's never looked anything like good enough on the various times I've seen him, he's not even looked good enough for the u21s really. this is the danny carr that scored so many goals at u21 level last year robins brought him on to try rescue a point at wigan - shows to me just like tony pulis stated recently that the u21 league is not fit for purpose and the fact crooks and sinnott were successful at that level yet were released without a league start says as much
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Apr 13, 2015 21:17:59 GMT 1
If Daniel Carr is a professional footballer next season I'll be very surprised. He's never looked anything like good enough on the various times I've seen him, he's not even looked good enough for the u21s really. this is the danny carr that scored so many goals at u21 level last year robins brought him on to try rescue a point at wigan - shows to me just like tony pulis stated recently that the u21 league is not fit for purpose and the fact crooks and sinnott were successful at that level yet were released without a league start says as much And look where they've ended up. Bottom end League Two / Conference and both way better than Carr, in my opinion of course.
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Post by terrierfortythree on Apr 13, 2015 22:06:53 GMT 1
If Daniel Carr is a professional footballer next season I'll be very surprised. He's never looked anything like good enough on the various times I've seen him, he's not even looked good enough for the u21s really. this is the danny carr that scored so many goals at u21 level last year robins brought him on to try rescue a point at wigan - shows to me just like tony pulis stated recently that the u21 league is not fit for purpose and the fact crooks and sinnott were successful at that level yet were released without a league start says as much unfortunately crooks did start one, the first game of this season, will do well to see a worse debut again in the near future. think sinnotts only starts were against Leicester in the fa cup.
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Post by jqhtfc on Apr 14, 2015 19:33:26 GMT 1
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Post by Giggity on Apr 14, 2015 22:33:40 GMT 1
Some ping that is by Billing. Right in the top bin.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2015 11:34:02 GMT 1
Need to go back to playing reserves in the central league. U21's for kids..and too big a jump up to Championship.
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Post by COWleySHED on Apr 16, 2015 21:08:57 GMT 1
Need to go back to playing reserves in the central league. U21's for kids..and too big a jump up to Championship. that was just as bad though full of players on injury recovery or out of favour with their present clubs
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Post by togterrier on Apr 17, 2015 0:20:36 GMT 1
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Post by thomo on Apr 17, 2015 8:43:23 GMT 1
Billing looks the most ready to make the step up. Hoping he gets at least 20 mins tomorrow and starts the last two games. Problem is I suppose who we drop.
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Post by East Yorkshire Terrier on Apr 17, 2015 13:50:12 GMT 1
I've been reading Chris Powell's latest interview (possibly in the Examiner?) he keep's reiterating that the Town youngsters 'have to be ready' - hence why they've not really had many opportunities. Lots of fans are really wanting the young lads to play, but obviously Powell and his staff (who see them on a daily basis) do not think they are yet at the required level to be involved more than they have (if at all). In a nut shell, they are currently not good enough for championship football. Will they be?? Time will tell!!
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 17, 2015 15:47:22 GMT 1
I've been reading Chris Powell's latest interview (possibly in the Examiner?) he keep's reiterating that the Town youngsters 'have to be ready' - hence why they've not really had many opportunities. Lots of fans are really wanting the young lads to play, but obviously Powell and his staff (who see them on a daily basis) do not think they are yet at the required level to be involved more than they have (if at all). In a nut shell, they are currently not good enough for championship football. Will they be?? Time will tell!! How come our close rivals down the A62 have managed to blood several of their youngsters this season (some are regulars) when we've finished above their U21's for the last two seasons? I think its more to do with our manager not having the balls to pick them rather than their inability.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 17, 2015 17:48:40 GMT 1
I've been reading Chris Powell's latest interview (possibly in the Examiner?) he keep's reiterating that the Town youngsters 'have to be ready' - hence why they've not really had many opportunities. Lots of fans are really wanting the young lads to play, but obviously Powell and his staff (who see them on a daily basis) do not think they are yet at the required level to be involved more than they have (if at all). In a nut shell, they are currently not good enough for championship football. Will they be?? Time will tell!! How come our close rivals down the A62 have managed to blood several of their youngsters this season (some are regulars) when we've finished above their U21's for the last two seasons? I think its more to do with our manager not having the balls to pick them rather than their inability. maybe it because some players have been blooded - they have not played in the development games especially if you mean Mowatt & Cook.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 17, 2015 18:00:41 GMT 1
How come our close rivals down the A62 have managed to blood several of their youngsters this season (some are regulars) when we've finished above their U21's for the last two seasons? I think its more to do with our manager not having the balls to pick them rather than their inability. maybe it because some players have been blooded - they have not played in the development games especially if you mean Mowatt People like Mowatt, Cook, Byram & Taylor have all come through the ranks there and now play in the first team. Last season we had Holmes playing & Billing getting game time but they can't get anywhere near now. Their development has stalled/gone backwards this season under Powell.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 17, 2015 18:18:50 GMT 1
maybe it because some players have been blooded - they have not played in the development games especially if you mean Mowatt People like Mowatt, Cook, Byram & Taylor have all come through the ranks there and now play in the first team. Last season we had Holmes playing & Billing getting game time but they can't get anywhere near now. Their development has stalled/gone backwards this season under Powell. Holmes made 2 starts and was shipped out on loan, I have stated on here a few times that he found himself 3rd in the pecking order behind Butterfield and Majewski, this was through no fault of his own and our chance to get Butterfield in the Clayton deal was too good to miss and moved Duane further away from first team time, he was shipped out to Bury but he didn't much of an opportunity there. Billing only played 15 minutes as a sub in a game after we were safe from relegation the same or more could be seen this season. I think you are overselling his use last season, and if the club knew they had been able to get Butterfield then Majewski's loan would not have occurred. They WILL get their time and hopefully the sooner the better but Powell cannot be accused of being any more reluctant to use them as opposed to last season.
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Post by Essex Terrier on Apr 17, 2015 21:12:58 GMT 1
maybe it because some players have been blooded - they have not played in the development games especially if you mean Mowatt People like Mowatt, Cook, Byram & Taylor have all come through the ranks there and now play in the first team. Last season we had Holmes playing & Billing getting game time but they can't get anywhere near now. Their development has stalled/gone backwards this season under Powell. Brilliant - it's the MANAGERS fault that the players are not good enough!!
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 17, 2015 22:42:58 GMT 1
People like Mowatt, Cook, Byram & Taylor have all come through the ranks there and now play in the first team. Last season we had Holmes playing & Billing getting game time but they can't get anywhere near now. Their development has stalled/gone backwards this season under Powell. Brilliant - it's the MANAGERS fault that the players are not good enough!! Its the MANAGER'S fault for not giving them the chance to prove themselves!!! It happens at other clubs so why not ours, given the fact that our U18/U21's have been in the top two of their respective leagues for the past two seasons? Clubs with inferior records/results to ours don't seem to have a problem bringing them through. If our manager is always right as you infer, then why does Edgar get regular game time when its bleeding obvious to most of us that he's not up to it? I'm using Edgar as a convenient example but Powell has made many mistakes this season. Isn't it just possible that not giving the young lads a chance might have been another of them?!
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 17, 2015 23:47:12 GMT 1
Brilliant - it's the MANAGERS fault that the players are not good enough!! Its the MANAGER'S fault for not giving them the chance to prove themselves!!! It happens at other clubs so why not ours, given the fact that our U18/U21's have been in the top two of their respective leagues for the past two seasons? Clubs with inferior records/results to ours don't seem to have a problem bringing them through. If our manager is always right as you infer, then why does Edgar get regular game time when its bleeding obvious to most of us that he's not up to it? I'm using Edgar as a convenient example but Powell has made many mistakes this season. Isn't it just possible that not giving the young lads a chance might have been another of them?! Here we have another complaint of the use of Edgar. Which kid do you think would have played in midfield in front of the back 4 away at Wigan, Millwall, Bournemouth, Brentford and Sheff Wed. I believe bringing Oscar in and reverting Coady to that role would have been the next option. The Wigan and Millwall wins were crucial in sepearting us from the bottom 3, good draws were gained away at Bournemouth and Wednesday. Only Brentford was a poor defeat Which kid do you think would have played in defence instead of Edgar at home to Reading and Fulham. And away at Charlton. One good win and I still don't believe we didn't beat Fulham we lost badly away at Charlton using the same formation which put Reading to the sword so I understand the thought behind the formation and personnel. I believe Powell's only mistake with Edgar was playing him in midfield at HOME to L666s something which he has never repeated. Some of those games are probably the last games you want to throw a kid in for experience.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Apr 18, 2015 0:17:15 GMT 1
Its the MANAGER'S fault for not giving them the chance to prove themselves!!! It happens at other clubs so why not ours, given the fact that our U18/U21's have been in the top two of their respective leagues for the past two seasons? Clubs with inferior records/results to ours don't seem to have a problem bringing them through. If our manager is always right as you infer, then why does Edgar get regular game time when its bleeding obvious to most of us that he's not up to it? I'm using Edgar as a convenient example but Powell has made many mistakes this season. Isn't it just possible that not giving the young lads a chance might have been another of them?! Here we have another complaint of the use of Edgar. Which kid do you think would have played in midfield in front of the back 4 away at Wigan, Millwall, Bournemouth, Brentford and Sheff Wed. I believe bringing Oscar in and reverting Coady to that role would have been the next option. The Wigan and Millwall wins were crucial in sepearting us from the bottom 3, good draws were gained away at Bournemouth and Wednesday. Only Brentford was a poor defeat Which kid do you think would have played in defence instead of Edgar at home to Reading and Fulham. And away at Charlton. One good win and I still don't believe we didn't beat Fulham we lost badly away at Charlton using the same formation which put Reading to the sword so I understand the thought behind the formation and personnel. I believe Powell's only mistake with Edgar was playing him in midfield at HOME to L666s something which he has never repeated. Some of those games are probably the last games you want to throw a kid in for experience.
Which games do we throw them into? Powell's talk this week seems to suggest that we won't be seeing them starting in our last three games, even though we are safe Edagr has been a waste of a signing imo. Gobern or Billing could have done just as good a job as him in midfield and probably better. As for defence Edgar has rarely played in central defence and when he has he hasn't uprooted any trees.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Apr 18, 2015 0:32:01 GMT 1
Here we have another complaint of the use of Edgar. Which kid do you think would have played in midfield in front of the back 4 away at Wigan, Millwall, Bournemouth, Brentford and Sheff Wed. I believe bringing Oscar in and reverting Coady to that role would have been the next option. The Wigan and Millwall wins were crucial in sepearting us from the bottom 3, good draws were gained away at Bournemouth and Wednesday. Only Brentford was a poor defeat Which kid do you think would have played in defence instead of Edgar at home to Reading and Fulham. And away at Charlton. One good win and I still don't believe we didn't beat Fulham we lost badly away at Charlton using the same formation which put Reading to the sword so I understand the thought behind the formation and personnel. I believe Powell's only mistake with Edgar was playing him in midfield at HOME to L666s something which he has never repeated. Some of those games are probably the last games you want to throw a kid in for experience.
Which games do we throw them into? Powell's talk this week seems to suggest that we won't be seeing them starting in our last three games, even though we are safe Edagr has been a waste of a signing imo. Gobern or Billing could have done just as good a job as him in midfield and probably better. As for defence Edgar has rarely played in central defence and when he has he hasn't uprooted any trees. The idea behind the signing of Edgar was that his versatility meant that we could use him as experienced cover for multiple positions, the wins we gained at Millwall and Wigan IMO earned his money for his loan this season. After not winning away since Oct 1st, with him as the only real addition we won successive away games at the end of Jan and beginning of Feb to give us some momentum and more to the point increase the gap with the bottom 3. Clearly Edgar was not signed to be in the side as a creative player but he has done a decent job in cover exactly what I expected of him.
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