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Post by daveswithy1982 on Jan 31, 2019 18:53:55 GMT 1
None of the youngsters will probably sadly make it our young teams struggle to compete against Harrogate towns youth team! The lad moving to Bradford park avenue is A fairly decent standard but going to brighouse is two leagues lower and bordering on Sunday morning football!
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Post by greyarea on Jan 31, 2019 19:00:13 GMT 1
None of the youngsters will probably sadly make it our young teams struggle to compete against Harrogate towns youth team! The lad moving to Bradford park avenue is A fairly decent standard but going to brighouse is two leagues lower and bordering on Sunday morning football! Tell it fairly. Town were mainly a U17s side against a U19s team with older experienced players.
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Post by joburgjon on Jan 31, 2019 20:11:05 GMT 1
Can't help thinking that if at the age of 20 he's joining Brighouse then he's unlikely to make with us. I guess there's 2 ways of looking at this one. I Agree that at 20 you would perhaps like him to be a little bit further on in his development and be able to go to someone higher up the football pyramid. However, if he does well between now and the end of the season, that might see him going out on loan at the beginning of next season to a club further up. If he then does well in the first part of next season, then he might end up going to a League club for the second part of the season like Pyke has just done. Let's hope the lad does brilliantly between now and the end of the season and that secures him a loan higher up the pyramid next season.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 31, 2019 21:18:49 GMT 1
None of the youngsters will probably sadly make it our young teams struggle to compete against Harrogate towns youth team! The lad moving to Bradford park avenue is A fairly decent standard but going to brighouse is two leagues lower and bordering on Sunday morning football! bordering on sunday morning football? the most stupid and ill informed post ive read on here.you havnt a clue
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Post by Bojaj Horseman on Jan 31, 2019 21:58:55 GMT 1
Surprised that Edmonds-Green isn't off to a better team- thought he was well regarded? Playing in the 8th tier at 20 doesn't make it sound like he'll be football league standard.
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Post by joburgjon on Feb 1, 2019 11:59:34 GMT 1
Whilst I understand your point and agree to an extent, he only turned 20 on the 14th Jan. So had he gone out on loan at the beginning of the month the headline would have been "19 year old Defender heads to Brighouse Town". We might have viewed it slightly different then. The move will provide him with challenge he can't get at Town playing as part of the Elite Development Team. He'll be playing against Physically stronger players. Brighouse Town are currently in 2nd place, so he'll be playing in games that really mean something and the results really matter. This all fits nicely with the FA's 4 Corner Player Development Model community.thefa.com/england_dna/p/future_england_player
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Post by joburgjon on Feb 1, 2019 13:17:46 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2019 14:30:06 GMT 1
indeed it is and leigh bromby is spot on with his comments especially about ist season scholars get them playing that's when they learn what they have been coached by putting it in to practice.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Feb 2, 2019 15:51:23 GMT 1
Pyke on the bench for Rochdale at Walsall today.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Feb 2, 2019 17:19:55 GMT 1
Pyke on for the Dale.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Feb 2, 2019 17:21:55 GMT 1
Pyke comes on, Rochdale score.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Feb 3, 2019 17:30:09 GMT 1
The under-19 squad, which is heading to Spain
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Post by joburgjon on Feb 3, 2019 19:03:33 GMT 1
Good to see so many of the Under 17s going. It'll be great experience for them
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Post by midlander on Feb 3, 2019 19:21:54 GMT 1
Good to see so many of the Under 17s going. It'll be great experience for them Do you know how they got on at Fleetwood on Saturday?
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Post by Porrohman on Feb 3, 2019 23:10:44 GMT 1
What's happened to the kid who was playing for England and scored in a first team pre season friendly, Daly or something ?
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Post by joburgjon on Feb 4, 2019 0:30:23 GMT 1
Good to see so many of the Under 17s going. It'll be great experience for them Do you know how they got on at Fleetwood on Saturday? Lost 3-1 I think.
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Post by joburgjon on Feb 4, 2019 0:36:29 GMT 1
What's happened to the kid who was playing for England and scored in a first team pre season friendly, Daly or something ? Must be injured as he's hardly featured at all this season
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 0:45:46 GMT 1
What's happened to the kid who was playing for England and scored in a first team pre season friendly, Daly or something ? Must be injured as he's hardly featured at all this season A bit strange, his name or picture doesn't feature in either the u17 or u19 player profiles.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 9:38:29 GMT 1
Matty Daly is on the EDT page, I did read somewhere that he had an injury.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2019 9:58:36 GMT 1
Matty Daly is on the EDT page, I did read somewhere that he had an injury. So he is, thanks for that.
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Post by joburgjon on Feb 4, 2019 15:20:25 GMT 1
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Post by Bojaj Horseman on Feb 7, 2019 12:52:08 GMT 1
Under 19s impressing against Sevilla, Aaron Rowe with two excellent solo goals by the sounds of it
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Post by joburgjon on Feb 7, 2019 16:23:23 GMT 1
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Post by yellowbelly on Feb 7, 2019 17:06:40 GMT 1
Nah Sevilla were rubbish, of course
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Post by bluesandtwos on Feb 7, 2019 23:28:20 GMT 1
What is strange to me is West Brom played an 18 year old and a 16 year old against Brighton. We buy a 21 year old striker from Charlton and loan a 21 year old striker to Rochdale. We seem to have talent in our younger ranks, Rowe went to Portugal with the first team squad. Why do they never get a run out in senior games? Will this change under JS I wonder or perhaps when we drop a division?
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 8, 2019 0:14:12 GMT 1
What is strange to me is West Brom played an 18 year old and a 16 year old against Brighton. We buy a 21 year old striker from Charlton and loan a 21 year old striker to Rochdale. We seem to have talent in our younger ranks, Rowe went to Portugal with the first team squad. Why do they never get a run out in senior games? Will this change under JS I wonder or perhaps when we drop a division? A lot of clubs give young lads a chance but for some reason we think its better to send our youngsters out on loan to clubs way down the pyramid. I hope that Siewert reverses that trend in the future because these players rarely get anywhere near our first team after playing for non league teams.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 0:33:23 GMT 1
What is strange to me is West Brom played an 18 year old and a 16 year old against Brighton. We buy a 21 year old striker from Charlton and loan a 21 year old striker to Rochdale. We seem to have talent in our younger ranks, Rowe went to Portugal with the first team squad. Why do they never get a run out in senior games? Will this change under JS I wonder or perhaps when we drop a division? A lot of clubs give young lads a chance but for some reason we think its better to send our youngsters out on loan to clubs way down the pyramid. I hope that Siewert reverses that trend in the future because these players rarely get anywhere near our first team after playing for non league teams. I'm pretty sure West Brom wouldn't have played those two against Brighton in the Premier League last season or this if they had survived. Cups tend to be used differently. Incidentally our brand new 21 year old striker has already played in a Premier League game for us. I suppose it depends on the maturity and ability of the individual. They don't all develop at the same rate, Aaron Mooy is a perfect example.
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Feb 8, 2019 1:17:58 GMT 1
A lot of clubs give young lads a chance but for some reason we think its better to send our youngsters out on loan to clubs way down the pyramid. I hope that Siewert reverses that trend in the future because these players rarely get anywhere near our first team after playing for non league teams. I'm pretty sure West Brom wouldn't have played those two against Brighton in the Premier League last season or this if they had survived. Cups tend to be used differently. Incidentally our brand new 21 year old striker has already played in a Premier League game for us. I suppose it depends on the maturity and ability of the individual. They don't all develop at the same rate, Aaron Mooy is a perfect example. We don't even play ours in cup games when we've made multiple changes and I'm talking about players we've developed, not signed from elsewhere. Evidence has shown in the past that players become better by playing with better players, whereas the ones we've loaned out to non leagues hardly ever come back to play in our first team whatever division we're in. Jack Hunt being an exception to that. I'm hoping that Siewert reverses that, otherwise its pointless having an academy. I'm not talking about suddenly pitching two or three young lads in at the deep end at the same time, but at least having one of them on the bench in certain games with a view to giving them a few minutes here and there, or maybe even a start when we're definitely down.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2019 1:53:19 GMT 1
I'm pretty sure West Brom wouldn't have played those two against Brighton in the Premier League last season or this if they had survived. Cups tend to be used differently. Incidentally our brand new 21 year old striker has already played in a Premier League game for us. I suppose it depends on the maturity and ability of the individual. They don't all develop at the same rate, Aaron Mooy is a perfect example. We don't even play ours in cup games when we've made multiple changes and I'm talking about players we've developed, not signed from elsewhere. Evidence has shown in the past that players become better by playing with better players, whereas the ones we've loaned out to non leagues hardly ever come back to play in our first team whatever division we're in. Jack Hunt being an exception to that. I'm hoping that Siewert reverses that, otherwise its pointless having an academy. I'm not talking about suddenly pitching two or three young lads in at the deep end at the same time, but at least having one of them on the bench in certain games with a view to giving them a few minutes here and there, or maybe even a start when we're definitely down. Perhaps the brutal truth is they just aren't good enough for where we are/have been? How many have actually progressed beyond where we were when released?
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Post by bluesandtwos on Feb 8, 2019 9:17:50 GMT 1
A lot of clubs give young lads a chance but for some reason we think its better to send our youngsters out on loan to clubs way down the pyramid. I hope that Siewert reverses that trend in the future because these players rarely get anywhere near our first team after playing for non league teams. I'm pretty sure West Brom wouldn't have played those two against Brighton in the Premier League last season or this if they had survived. Cups tend to be used differently. Incidentally our brand new 21 year old striker has already played in a Premier League game for us. I suppose it depends on the maturity and ability of the individual. They don't all develop at the same rate, Aaron Mooy is a perfect example. You are quite right about playing them at the top level. I don’t pretend to know much about developing young footballers and the experience we have in the academy is pretty rock solid. It probably shows how hard it is for players to make that transition. We hear such good things about some of the youngsters I would like to see some make the first team. If we go down maybe there will be more chances.
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