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Post by specialun on Aug 17, 2014 11:53:02 GMT 1
Hughton, Mowbray, Coyle - not sure they'd inspire anything!
But I thought that about Grayson and Robins yet we still went for them (* and whilst both ended when they needed to - Robins 3 months too late, they both ahcieved primary objectives)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 12:03:58 GMT 1
NO EXPERIENCE IN OUR GAME SO A NON STARTER FOR ME STILL THINK IT WILL BE ONE OF THREE. Powell Mowbray or Hughton. Coyle as dark horse. you might be right there, but imo would change to lennon as the dark horse over coyle (unless he has come down off his arrogance high horse and stooped to applying) then again, it could even be a name that no one has even mentioned yet it could well be but lennon would bemy first choice then powell davies is a fierey character like lennon dont think town could handle him though.
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Post by townatheart on Aug 17, 2014 12:15:44 GMT 1
you might be right there, but imo would change to lennon as the dark horse over coyle (unless he has come down off his arrogance high horse and stooped to applying) then again, it could even be a name that no one has even mentioned yet it could well be but lennon would bemy first choice then powell davies is a fierey character like lennon dont think town could handle him though. yeah, and as much as i want to stick with hughton as my first choice, just can not get the image of lennon out of my head, sure would make life interesting
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 12:16:40 GMT 1
No that's not what I'm saying at all. I'd have written that if that's what I thought. No idea who "you lot" are?! Don't waste your time mate. Like I've told you before sausage jockey instead of having your little digs try posting something relevant.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 12:20:13 GMT 1
No that's not what I'm saying at all. I'd have written that if that's what I thought. No idea who "you lot" are?! Is it not? Then instead of posting the whole interview & twisting it round to what you want it to mean just post what you do actually mean. "You lot" are the Dean can do no wrong brigade, the ones that twist his interview just to make sure you cover all your bases.
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Post by walshy on Aug 17, 2014 12:20:37 GMT 1
Just been on radio leeds that hes set to be announced with Marc Overmars as assistant and Dennis Bergkamp as first team coach We must be in cuckoo land. Isn't Dennis assistant at Ajax? Not sure he would be keen on being an Ass Mgr to then be first team coach? If Deano brings those 3 in thats a massive coup for the club, real signal of intent... It will bring mass media which will bring streams of income. Attract some top quality players (mostly dutch). Could they get the best out of players? They will certainly get the respect from the players.\ But not sure they would address the defensive frailties right away though. With some of the managers that are being mentioned, its definitely a cause for thought. We could all be way off the mark. Exciting times though, i feel..
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 17, 2014 12:23:00 GMT 1
Don't waste your time mate. Like I've told you before sausage jockey instead of having your little digs try posting something relevant. Not your usual cheery self today Moaner, everything ok?
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Post by Lard Buttie on Aug 17, 2014 12:31:39 GMT 1
Just been on radio leeds that hes set to be announced with Marc Overmars as assistant and Dennis Bergkamp as first team coach We must be in cuckoo land. Isn't Dennis assistant at Ajax? Not sure he would be keen on being an Ass Mgr to then be first team coach? If Deano brings those 3 in thats a massive coup for the club, real signal of intent... It will bring mass media which will bring streams of income. Attract some top quality players (mostly dutch). Could they get the best out of players? They will certainly get the respect from the players.\ But not sure they would address the defensive frailties right away though. With some of the managers that are being mentioned, its definitely a cause for thought. We could all be way off the mark. Exciting times though, i feel.. Tongue and cheek post that
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 12:45:08 GMT 1
Any news yet or are we still guessing?
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Post by amoeba on Aug 17, 2014 13:00:53 GMT 1
Any news yet or are we still guessing? Patrick Sportswear is getting it. (No,it's all guesswork)
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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 17, 2014 13:20:19 GMT 1
Would prefer him to clowns like Mowbray and Coyle! 200 games for Barcelona! Reckon we'd be able attract foreign players!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 13:45:36 GMT 1
No that's not what I'm saying at all. I'd have written that if that's what I thought. No idea who "you lot" are?! Is it not? Then instead of posting the whole interview & twisting it round to what you want it to mean just post what you do actually mean. "You lot" are the Dean can do no wrong brigade, the ones that twist his interview just to make sure you cover all your bases. I think you need to learn a bit of comprehension. I posted all the bits of the interview that referenced the next manager appointment, and commented on them. Your lack of comprehension is pretty obvious if you think I'm one of the Dean-can-do-no-wrong brigade...go back and read any posts I've made on the stewardship of Town, they are mostly critical (but hopefully fair and open minded and not abusive). I'm *often* accused on here of being "negative" regarding Hoyle/Clibbens/Wilson etc. I'm not "covering any bases", I don't really care who gets the job, as I don't think it really makes that much difference to the success or otherwise of the club given the framework its operating within. I'm pretty sure it will be someone pretty much in the same vein as the last three appointments (given the decision is being made by the same people who haven't really changed their approach much elsewhere) - I'd expect a manager who is agreeable and compliant and buys into the vision like Robins, but is 'more Lee Clark than Simon Grayson'. I'd rather it WASN'T Kluivert. But to simply go off on a 'well thats not what they said, they're big fat liars' (even though they haven't appointed Kluivert) rant seems ludicrous and just a bit childish. What has been said *doesn't* exclude Kluivert, thats the FACT of the matter, and even if what was said did seem to exclude him, thats kind of irrelevant if he has applied and interviews well and Dean/Ross/Nigel think he's the best of the applicants, then he'd get the job. Things change, and sometimes unexpected opportunities come along that are worth a punt. There's an interview with Dean out there, its worth discussing (although you don't want to for some reason) within the context of where the club is in its search for a new manager, but its NOT a set of rules. One of the main problems on DATM is almost everything seems to have to be black or white and written in stone - the problem is most stuff isn't black or white, and most stuff isn't written in stone. That is NOT going to change, it seems to be the way of the world unfortunately. Thats all I have to say really.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 17, 2014 13:55:10 GMT 1
Surprising how much sway Nixon has with the bookies odds.. Kluivert down to 12/1 with Skybet now.
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Post by DutchTownFan on Aug 17, 2014 15:01:48 GMT 1
Fluent in it, native language actually, but not worth translating. Poorly written, a few mistakes and looks like pure guesswork. The comments at the bottom aren't much better either
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Aug 17, 2014 15:15:03 GMT 1
Is it not? Then instead of posting the whole interview & twisting it round to what you want it to mean just post what you do actually mean. "You lot" are the Dean can do no wrong brigade, the ones that twist his interview just to make sure you cover all your bases. I think you need to learn a bit of comprehension. I posted all the bits of the interview that referenced the next manager appointment, and commented on them. Your lack of comprehension is pretty obvious if you think I'm one of the Dean-can-do-no-wrong brigade...go back and read any posts I've made on the stewardship of Town, they are mostly critical (but hopefully fair and open minded and not abusive). I'm *often* accused on here of being "negative" regarding Hoyle/Clibbens/Wilson etc. I'm not "covering any bases", I don't really care who gets the job, as I don't think it really makes that much difference to the success or otherwise of the club given the framework its operating within. I'm pretty sure it will be someone pretty much in the same vein as the last three appointments (given the decision is being made by the same people who haven't really changed their approach much elsewhere) - I'd expect a manager who is agreeable and compliant and buys into the vision like Robins, but is 'more Lee Clark than Simon Grayson'. I'd rather it WASN'T Kluivert. But to simply go off on a 'well thats not what they said, they're big fat liars' (even though they haven't appointed Kluivert) rant seems ludicrous and just a bit childish. What has been said *doesn't* exclude Kluivert, thats the FACT of the matter, and even if what was said did seem to exclude him, thats kind of irrelevant if he has applied and interviews well and Dean/Ross/Nigel think he's the best of the applicants, then he'd get the job. Things change, and sometimes unexpected opportunities come along that are worth a punt. There's an interview with Dean out there, its worth discussing (although you don't want to for some reason) within the context of where the club is in its search for a new manager, but its NOT a set of rules. One of the main problems on DATM is almost everything seems to have to be black or white and written in stone - the problem is most stuff isn't black or white, and most stuff isn't written in stone. That is NOT going to change, it seems to be the way of the world unfortunately. Thats all I have to say really. What is sure, is that once the decision is made and the new manager appointed, there will be for sure, some posts that disagree with it. Based on their own opinions, which we are all entitled to. However having an opinion does not necessarily mean it is right but it seems that the easiest way to put an opinion forward is to shout the loudest and drown out any other reasoned debate. Alan Nixon made a valid comment the other day, that democracy does not work when choosing a manager, that is why there are decision makers, in this case DH, but again it appears that if you support the Chairman you are a heretic or heathen and not allowed to support someone if it goes against another persons opinion. Equally if we were all the same life would be so boring and predictable but that does not excuse some peoples comments that have a air of "I know better than you" and you are not allowed to have thoughts. As long as people exist there will always be a difference of opinions, what sets people apart is those that listen and give reasoned well balanced arguments, rather than acting like the school yard bully.
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Post by Thwarting Dog on Aug 17, 2014 19:09:32 GMT 1
Kluivert, and Huddersfield Town become a feeder club for Man U. Well, could be a good thing than a relegation season staring us in the face. Just saying,.....
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 19:14:11 GMT 1
Would prefer him to clowns like Mowbray and Coyle! 200 games for Barcelona! Reckon we'd be able attract foreign players! what with you going to pay the wages? no chance
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 19:19:04 GMT 1
I think you need to learn a bit of comprehension. I posted all the bits of the interview that referenced the next manager appointment, and commented on them. Your lack of comprehension is pretty obvious if you think I'm one of the Dean-can-do-no-wrong brigade...go back and read any posts I've made on the stewardship of Town, they are mostly critical (but hopefully fair and open minded and not abusive). I'm *often* accused on here of being "negative" regarding Hoyle/Clibbens/Wilson etc. I'm not "covering any bases", I don't really care who gets the job, as I don't think it really makes that much difference to the success or otherwise of the club given the framework its operating within. I'm pretty sure it will be someone pretty much in the same vein as the last three appointments (given the decision is being made by the same people who haven't really changed their approach much elsewhere) - I'd expect a manager who is agreeable and compliant and buys into the vision like Robins, but is 'more Lee Clark than Simon Grayson'. I'd rather it WASN'T Kluivert. But to simply go off on a 'well thats not what they said, they're big fat liars' (even though they haven't appointed Kluivert) rant seems ludicrous and just a bit childish. What has been said *doesn't* exclude Kluivert, thats the FACT of the matter, and even if what was said did seem to exclude him, thats kind of irrelevant if he has applied and interviews well and Dean/Ross/Nigel think he's the best of the applicants, then he'd get the job. Things change, and sometimes unexpected opportunities come along that are worth a punt. There's an interview with Dean out there, its worth discussing (although you don't want to for some reason) within the context of where the club is in its search for a new manager, but its NOT a set of rules. One of the main problems on DATM is almost everything seems to have to be black or white and written in stone - the problem is most stuff isn't black or white, and most stuff isn't written in stone. That is NOT going to change, it seems to be the way of the world unfortunately. Thats all I have to say really. What is sure, is that once the decision is made and the new manager appointed, there will be for sure, some posts that disagree with it. Based on their own opinions, which we are all entitled to. However having an opinion does not necessarily mean it is right but it seems that the easiest way to put an opinion forward is to shout the loudest and drown out any other reasoned debate. Alan Nixon made a valid comment the other day, that democracy does not work when choosing a manager, that is why there are decision makers, in this case DH, but again it appears that if you support the Chairman you are a heretic or heathen and not allowed to support someone if it goes against another persons opinion. Equally if we were all the same life would be so boring and predictable but that does not excuse some peoples comments that have a air of "I know better than you" and you are not allowed to have thoughts. As long as people exist there will always be a difference of opinions, what sets people apart is those that listen and give reasoned well balanced arguments, rather than acting like the school yard bully. agree
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 19:25:16 GMT 1
it could well be but lennon would bemy first choice then powell davies is a fierey character like lennon dont think town could handle him though. yeah, and as much as i want to stick with hughton as my first choice, just can not get the image of lennon out of my head, sure would make life interesting Crikey. Hope Mrs Townatheart doesn't want any action. That's enough to render any man incapable.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 19:38:53 GMT 1
If we appointed Kluivert at least there would be a bit more excitement amongst the fans. A name like that could also get us more TV time, what with Leeds being on Sky every other week this season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 19:45:44 GMT 1
If we want to improve gate receipts, this would be a great appointment, until we start losing. Don't let heart rule the head.
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Post by terrier17 on Aug 17, 2014 20:18:43 GMT 1
It's got fans at other clubs talking it about it anyway, even though it will never happen sadly.
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Post by Tinpot on Aug 17, 2014 20:28:18 GMT 1
Hughton, Mowbray, Coyle - not sure they'd inspire anything!
But I thought that about Grayson and Robins yet we still went for them (* and whilst both ended when they needed to - Robins 3 months too late, they both ahcieved primary objectives) To be fair, they've all inspired teams to promotion!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 20:33:00 GMT 1
thing is they can have had all the success with other teams, but if they aint a good fit for huddersfield town then it'll be a disaster. we've hired big names before.... and it got us nowhere.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 20:36:50 GMT 1
We seem to have big dutch connections at the moment. Town have identified holland as an area that offers value in the transfer market. Robins wouldn't sign any of the Dutch players, so maybe our contacts In holland have sold town to some big name dutch managers. I for one would love Kluivert as manager he was a world class player and has lots of connections in the game, We would definitely prosper from links with man utd.
It would be a real statement, but a huge gamble, he could take us the the premier league, but also take us down just as easily.
Kluivert or pressley.... no bloody contest for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 20:49:42 GMT 1
If all these names banded around have actually applied for the job, then Dean's decision will be a clear signal of the future of the club.
Like many have said, what is it actually that we want? Promotion, stability, something else?
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Post by specialun on Aug 17, 2014 21:04:54 GMT 1
Hughton, Mowbray, Coyle - not sure they'd inspire anything!
But I thought that about Grayson and Robins yet we still went for them (* and whilst both ended when they needed to - Robins 3 months too late, they both ahcieved primary objectives) To be fair, they've all inspired teams to promotion! Coyle maybe so with Burnley - But Hughton / Mowbray inherited relegated Premiership teams with parachute payments / better players than we have at disposal here. Hughton went straight back up and Mowbray the second attempt after spending £7m on 3 players alone (others left I accept), that ain't going to happen here!
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Aug 17, 2014 21:06:47 GMT 1
We seem to have big dutch connections at the moment. Town have identified holland as an area that offers value in the transfer market. Robins wouldn't sign any of the Dutch players, so maybe our contacts In holland have sold town to some big name dutch managers. I for one would love Kluivert as manager he was a world class player and has lots of connections in the game, We would definitely prosper from links with man utd. It would be a real statement, but a huge gamble, he could take us the the premier league, but also take us down just as easily. Kluivert or pressley.... no bloody contest for me. Yeah but it isn't between kluivert and Pressley
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Post by terrierpark on Aug 17, 2014 21:13:58 GMT 1
Kluivert would create a feel good factor about the place almost immediately and there could be some very interesting developments come from it should he be appointed. Mowbray? Jesus it would be like having Robins only more senile!
The thing is and i hope people can answer me this, how would it work when Kluivert says i want Player A from this Club and such a player is not on the clubs/ Ross Wilsons list? What happens then?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 21:17:16 GMT 1
Kluivert would create a feel good factor about the place almost immediately and there could be some very interesting developments come from it should he be appointed. Mowbray? Jesus it would be like having Robins only more senile! The thing is and i hope people can answer me this, how would it work when Kluivert says i want Player A from this Club and such a player is not on the clubs/ Ross Wilsons list? What happens then? They would do the same thing they did for Robins. See if they could work a deal that fits within our finances. Getting a bit old now. I don't know how many times Hoyle has to tell everyone the Manager has the final say on signings.
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