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Post by Skint Terriers on Sept 14, 2014 1:14:06 GMT 1
Probably going to get hate for this but fuck it.
Think he's over rated massively by us.
'he just need's a big man to play off' bollocks.. that's just defending him because of the price we paid.
I'm usually positive but since signing he hasn't exactly done much
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Post by ritchie on Sept 14, 2014 2:16:02 GMT 1
Probably going to get hate for this but fuck it. Think he's over rated massively by us. 'he just need's a big man to play off' bollocks.. that's just defending him because of the price we paid. I'm usually positive but since signing he hasn't exactly done much I've seen enough from him to think he can score plenty...but he needs support and hasnt been getting it. Playing without a decent partner (doesnt have to be a big man but if they could hold the ball up, link up, flick on/slip balls through, HAVE A BRAIN... it would help massively) means he doesnt get a sniff most games and the last thing you want is him coming looking for it as its not his game to be deep We were spoilt by rhodes who could score from any scraps he was given.....nahki needs more catering towards and he isnt getting it. He needs defence splitting passes. he needs quick counter attacks. he needs low drilled crosses..he needs the ball in the flipping box!! not slow build up which allows the opposition to get 10 men behind the ball, resulting in us losing possession or it being punted up to be eaten up by all the oppositions 6ft players around him. We've not played good football for months, just predictable, pedestrian, garbage. if we were playing good football/at a team that is he'd be scoring plenty
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Post by seanyd1brit on Sept 14, 2014 3:15:14 GMT 1
The poor lad gets fuck all support and fuck all service and runs his bollocks off. He's scored quite a few goals to say he's been playing for an absolutely garbage team.
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Post by 007Berlin on Sept 14, 2014 6:23:22 GMT 1
Totally with ritch tea here. He ;and everybody else for that matter) gets nothing at all. The ball is hardly ever in the opposition box and when it is it massively lacks any quality. We created 1 chance yesterday in the second half. It seems to me since we played ever so well at QPR in January the team has done nothing but under perform, loose, or snatch a draw from the jaws of victory.
And worryingly that's what teams who get relegated tend to do.
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Post by shawsie on Sept 14, 2014 6:47:47 GMT 1
Probably going to get hate for this but fuck it. Think he's over rated massively by us. 'he just need's a big man to play off' bollocks.. that's just defending him because of the price we paid. I'm usually positive but since signing he hasn't exactly done much Not done much?! Without his goals we'd have gone down chief.......he was playing behind a team with as much mobility as an arctic whaler last season and this season the defence is a sieve! Get some supply into him and we and he will be fine!
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Post by catterickterrier on Sept 14, 2014 6:49:40 GMT 1
He's scored more than enough to show his obvious ability, seems to bust a gut when others don't as well
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 6:53:34 GMT 1
he had a poor game, but he gets isolated sometimes. middlesborough were better than us on the day.
although one piece of his play in the second half was unforgivable. givin up / pulling out of challenges when you are going to be first to the ball in the penalty area and could easily win a penalty is not on.
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Post by Yuta be a terrier on Sept 14, 2014 7:03:57 GMT 1
The problem is he was our most creative player first half yesterday but only because he was having to work the flanks. Look at our goal. That is exactly what should be happening every attack. Creative midfielder gives ball to winger who crosses with both strikers in the area to finish. That goal yesterday was what we havent been doing for the past 18 months. It was a shame it took 82 mins to put a winger on and put our creative midfielder in the middle but when this happens then Wells only has to worry about getting in the box and scoring goals.
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Post by Thwarting Dog on Sept 14, 2014 7:37:10 GMT 1
Its as if Nahki Wells has been put on hold until we can find him a striking partner that can play regular, get to know each others game inside out.Vaughan is an expensive luxury Town can ill afford now. Loan Striker a must. Give Nahki a chance
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Sept 14, 2014 8:36:26 GMT 1
He lost out on a fair fe 50/50 challenges yesterday. No service at all and thn his injury riddled mate jumps and gets injured. Just a poor game for him yesterday and for most of the team.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Sept 14, 2014 13:18:57 GMT 1
11 goals, 4 assists & won a penalty in half a season with us is fuck all? Jesus.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 13:24:04 GMT 1
The problem is he was our most creative player first half yesterday but only because he was having to work the flanks. Look at our goal. That is exactly what should be happening every attack. Creative midfielder gives ball to winger who crosses with both strikers in the area to finish. That goal yesterday was what we havent been doing for the past 18 months. It was a shame it took 82 mins to put a winger on and put our creative midfielder in the middle but when this happens then Wells only has to worry about getting in the box and scoring goals. Absolutely.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 13:24:06 GMT 1
You're right - you should get slated.
He's got class on the ball and can finish. He needs to be the tip of the arrow though, and unfortunately for some time moves have not been culminating in him getting on the end of things. Not his fault.
Get the rest of it right and he'll score plenty, and he'll contribute to successful moves as well.
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Post by Skint Terriers on Sept 14, 2014 13:29:21 GMT 1
I like him don't get me wrong I just think most town fans make him out to be 10x better than he actually is. His goal scoring record is nothing special either.
He's 24 so I expect he'll get better but for now he's an average championship striker
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Post by Cole on Sept 14, 2014 13:34:09 GMT 1
Why can't we just play a through ball to him like watford do with Deeney and Forestfirei
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Post by Skint Terriers on Sept 14, 2014 13:37:17 GMT 1
Why can't we just play a through ball to him like watford do with Deeney and Forestfirei we need a class attacking midfielder. Butterfield is more box to box and Majewski hasn't done anything special when he's played. We need a class passer to play behind Wells which by the looks of it we still don't have
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 13:41:02 GMT 1
He needs a consistent strike partner, rather than being played on his own or with changing partners who aren't really strikers. I think Vaughan is on dangerous ground with his career now. If he doesn't develop some reliability soon, it might be time to cut our losses and find an alternative striker.
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Post by Thwarting Dog on Sept 14, 2014 13:58:09 GMT 1
The time is now. We need a good striking partner for Wells. JV get fit and fight for your place. Can't piss about waiting in this league. Need at the very least one winger on the pitch also to create chances. Think CP will act sooner rather than later.
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Post by Amigo on Sept 14, 2014 14:20:14 GMT 1
I like him don't get me wrong I just think most town fans make him out to be 10x better than he actually is. His goal scoring record is nothing special either. He's 24 so I expect he'll get better but for now he's an average championship striker I don't know if you'd been drinking when you started this thread and now feel like you need to back it up but you're talking rubbish. His scoring record is nothing special? 4 in 7 this season, 22 in 43 last season, 26 in 54 the season before, it's not bad is it? When we signed him I think most of us thought he was just going to be a "fox in the box" type striker, he isn't though. There is more to his game than that, he works his knackers off non-stop and his link up play when the ball is actually played in to his feet is good. His performance against Barnsley last season was absolutely brilliant and showed how well he can play even when he's not scoring when the ball is played to him to feet. What he is struggling with is a long ball humped up in his general direction whilst he challenges with someone at least half a foot taller than him with no support around him. He does look frustrated at times at the moment, I don't really blame him because he's chasing a lost cause 90% of the time but he's still plugging away.
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Post by deadleg on Sept 14, 2014 16:10:06 GMT 1
Why can't we just play a through ball to him like watford do with Deeney and Forestfirei Majewski would do this if played in a system that suited him and given a few games. For the level we're currently at we'll struggle to sign a better, more experienced 'number 10' but it's no good having him here if we're not going to play to his strengths.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Sept 14, 2014 16:25:21 GMT 1
midfield was too deep for too long..no immediate support for the forwards, too much long high stuff towards two huge centre halves. Of course as soon as we got someone wide and got proper support near him and numbers in and around the box we scored??
our brief for the midfield is still far too defensive and cody/butterfield and peltier looked lost for most of the game whilst standing off their midfield both in our half and theirs.
boro were inches taller than us all over the pitch so it became a bit annoying that we kept hitting it long and high..
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Post by ACW on Sept 14, 2014 17:59:32 GMT 1
Agree with a lot of the above, particularly with regards the lack of service he receives.
I would like to ask: how many chances does he miss? Not many, because he doesn't get many! Nahki Wells is utterly wasted chasing hopeful punts down the pitch and is totally redundant without decent support. Last season we passed the ball but didn't give him enough support, yesterday he had support (another striker) but we persisted with long balls up to him! Its no wonder he's struggling.
We have a midfield (for the first time in ages) capable of passing and moving effectively, yet we play a style that takes them and Wells out of the game.
Without support/good service Wells will always struggle and, to be fair, most strikers would. Until he get both its unfair to judge him.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 14, 2014 18:12:13 GMT 1
I like him don't get me wrong I just think most town fans make him out to be 10x better than he actually is. His goal scoring record is nothing special either. He's 24 so I expect he'll get better but for now he's an average championship striker You like him but he's ten times worse than most town fans make out with a 'nothing special' record. Yeah, you really like him!
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Post by shawsie on Sept 14, 2014 18:21:37 GMT 1
Why can't we just play a through ball to him like watford do with Deeney and Forestfirei Having seen them only 2 wks ago they dont do that,,,,thats why. Forestieri comes short and feeds runners from midfield - we dont have any. Deeney is simply a class apart - think vaughan with more physical power and the ability to stay on the pitch! Murdered wallace and lynch with sheer power and no little ability.......wells is a finisher who feeds off service and a partner....we give him little of the former and his partners a permanent sick note!
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Post by hypotenuse on Sept 14, 2014 20:15:34 GMT 1
I like him don't get me wrong I just think most town fans make him out to be 10x better than he actually is. His goal scoring record is nothing special either. He's 24 so I expect he'll get better but for now he's an average championship striker I don't know if you'd been drinking when you started this thread and now feel like you need to back it up but you're talking rubbish. His scoring record is nothing special? 4 in 7 this season, 22 in 43 last season, 26 in 54 the season before, it's not bad is it? When we signed him I think most of us thought he was just going to be a "fox in the box" type striker, he isn't though. There is more to his game than that, he works his knackers off non-stop and his link up play when the ball is actually played in to his feet is good. His performance against Barnsley last season was absolutely brilliant and showed how well he can play even when he's not scoring when the ball is played to him to feet. What he is struggling with is a long ball humped up in his general direction whilst he challenges with someone at least half a foot taller than him with no support around him. He does look frustrated at times at the moment, I don't really blame him because he's chasing a lost cause 90% of the time but he's still plugging away. Totally agree with OP. Slyman - you quote his goal scoring stats so I will too. He has scored 6 league goals in his last 26 appearances - not even 1 in every 4 games though the team has scored 29 goals in that time. If I try to compare him with a similar type of player, what about Gayle at Palace who came from a lower division team. Who would you rather have playing up front for Town I'd desperately like Wells to rediscover his 'mojo' but at the moment he is not cutting the mustard. Good strikers make things happen out of nothing, they are alert for every throw-in, a quick free kick, a defensive slip and they worry the hell out of defenders even when they are not at their best. Wells hasn't done any of these things for some time yet other players get crucified on here despite contributing far more to the team even though they have less ability than Wells.
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Post by Skint Terriers on Sept 14, 2014 20:34:17 GMT 1
Wells doesn't get chances? he's missed a fair few. Yes he works his socks off but for what? what does he actually do once he's got the ball? a lot of the time lose it. Yes he gets shit service a lot of the time but we make him out to be a class act when in fact he's an average championship striker and misses a LOT of chances.
the ONLY game I have been impressed has been Barnsley
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Post by Gag_N_Bone_Man on Sept 14, 2014 21:42:07 GMT 1
He's arguably our biggest asset and if we don't sort our shit out he will be gone in January...
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Post by Skint Terriers on Sept 14, 2014 22:00:17 GMT 1
He's arguably our biggest asset and if we don't sort our shit out he will be gone in January... get a couple mil for him and go shopping abroad
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Post by hypotenuse on Sept 14, 2014 22:03:48 GMT 1
He's arguably our biggest asset and if we don't sort our shit out he will be gone in January... get a couple mil for him and go shopping abroad If anyone offered anywhere near 2 million we should bite their hands off
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Post by Skint Terriers on Sept 14, 2014 22:11:24 GMT 1
get a couple mil for him and go shopping abroad If anyone offered anywhere near 2 million we should bite their hands off we paid 1.3ish and he was massively hyped at Bradford so there's no reason why a bid like that wouldnt come in
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