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Post by terrierfortythree on Oct 20, 2014 14:29:32 GMT 1
I agree however with 3 games this week i can see a couple of changes at some point They have just had two weeks holiday! they did however apparently footballers these days struggle to play more than 1 game a week according to rodgers and raheem sterling haha madness they should be able to handle it
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Post by Essex Terrier on Oct 20, 2014 15:53:40 GMT 1
I never got this idea Rhodes was poor outside the box. I thought his hold up play and link play was excellent. Vastly better than Wells's is IMO. Im on the side of those saying hes a bit over rated. Hes had some great games but a lot of poor ones too. His workrate earns him a lot of friends but technically he has a lot of improving to do yet IMO. I'll buy that - having Holt in the side could be a double-whammy. Not only is he a top player in his own right, but on Saturday we got what I would say is one of the best Centre Forward performances I have seen from a town player. The runs Holt makes, the way he bosses defenders, the control he has, and evidence this week, his finishing is superb! Young Wells would be hanging on to his every word if he has anything about him that wants to improve his game - he won't get a better example at this level.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 20, 2014 16:54:49 GMT 1
They have just had two weeks holiday! they did however apparently footballers these days struggle to play more than 1 game a week according to rodgers and raheem sterling haha madness they should be able to handle it I did have a bit for sympathy for Sterling. He's played a lot of tough games without an international break. I think Town players have had two recent international breaks and have another coming up in November. Three games in a week is easy especially when you are winning.
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Post by terrierfortythree on Oct 20, 2014 17:12:35 GMT 1
they did however apparently footballers these days struggle to play more than 1 game a week according to rodgers and raheem sterling haha madness they should be able to handle it I did have a bit for sympathy for Sterling. He's played a lot of tough games without an international break. I think Town players have had two recent international breaks and have another coming up in November. Three games in a week is easy especially when you are winning. i'm not having any of rodgers complaints about it, i was really shocked when he played against boro in the cup then kicked off saying england should rest him
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 20, 2014 17:21:47 GMT 1
I did have a bit for sympathy for Sterling. He's played a lot of tough games without an international break. I think Town players have had two recent international breaks and have another coming up in November. Three games in a week is easy especially when you are winning. i'm not having any of rodgers complaints about it, i was really shocked when he played against boro in the cup then kicked off saying england should rest him That's fair comment - I have sympathy for Sterling not Rodgers - who becomes more of a bit of a dick every week. Mind you I really think we should keep that to ourselves and say he is terrific for gifting us Coady.
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Post by terrierfortythree on Oct 20, 2014 17:27:21 GMT 1
i'm not having any of rodgers complaints about it, i was really shocked when he played against boro in the cup then kicked off saying england should rest him That's fair comment - I have sympathy for Sterling not Rodgers - who becomes more of a bit of a dick every week. Mind you I really think we should keep that to ourselves and say he is terrific for gifting us Coady. Yeah suppose he did have a quiet word in conors ear about joining us...yep potentially a world class player england have on their hands so hope he keeps his head down
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Post by Deleted on Oct 20, 2014 17:28:10 GMT 1
Sorry, but I don't think it's anything to do with squad rotation. Think it's to do with a winning formula/formation, and whilst we're winning Wells will be out of the starting line-up. He'll be needed down the line though, no doubt about it. he scored the 2 goals to beat milwall at the start of this little run were on, and was out of the team for the next game at wolves...clear example of squad rotation No, sorry mate. Having bagged Holt he's changed the system to one that suits him/us and doesn't suit Wells. Bold decision, but not squad rotation.
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Post by terrierfortythree on Oct 20, 2014 17:37:03 GMT 1
he scored the 2 goals to beat milwall at the start of this little run were on, and was out of the team for the next game at wolves...clear example of squad rotation No, sorry mate. Having bagged Holt he's changed the system to one that suits him/us and doesn't suit Wells. Bold decision, but not squad rotation. fair enough with what a few have said, the term 'squad rotation' is open to different meanings to different people ultimately, and even a change in system i personally still class as rotation but i completely understand why some don't class it as
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Post by flevans on Oct 20, 2014 22:19:13 GMT 1
Our angriest striker is Holt hands down He was set to explode on several occasions yesterday! If I was as big and strong as him, I think I would have exploded several times jeez, what have I walked in on here?
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 20, 2014 23:44:48 GMT 1
I did have a bit for sympathy for Sterling. He's played a lot of tough games without an international break. I think Town players have had two recent international breaks and have another coming up in November. Three games in a week is easy especially when you are winning. i'm not having any of rodgers complaints about it, i was really shocked when he played against boro in the cup then kicked off saying england should rest him To be fair though, Liverpool are paying him something like £50k a week whereas england pay him sod all. I wouldn't be very happy if Town rested a player so hed be fit and firing for an international game!
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Post by Skint Terriers on Oct 21, 2014 0:44:30 GMT 1
i'm not having any of rodgers complaints about it, i was really shocked when he played against boro in the cup then kicked off saying england should rest him To be fair though, Liverpool are paying him something like £50k a week whereas england pay him sod all. I wouldn't be very happy if Town rested a player so hed be fit and firing for an international game! he's now asking for 100k a week, think the hype has got to him and thinks he can do what he wants now. No excuse as a 19 year old to be too tired to play.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 8:32:43 GMT 1
I took a bit of shit saying he was overrated before this isnt about that so don't worry What's going on with him? scored 2 and hasnt been in the team since has he? not fully fit or does Powell not rate him? Ward and Pato coming on ahead of him yesterday confused me a bit. We've shown we don't need him and have to build a team around him but I just find it a bit weird. Also he looks a right moody twat.
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Post by terrierfortythree on Oct 21, 2014 8:35:14 GMT 1
i'm not having any of rodgers complaints about it, i was really shocked when he played against boro in the cup then kicked off saying england should rest him To be fair though, Liverpool are paying him something like £50k a week whereas england pay him sod all. I wouldn't be very happy if Town rested a player so hed be fit and firing for an international game! But if there was genuine concern about a possible burn out on rodgers behalf he would not have played in the capital one cup, especially now they've got champions league football on top of the premier league and FA cup, Fenners.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 21, 2014 9:51:57 GMT 1
To be fair though, Liverpool are paying him something like £50k a week whereas england pay him sod all. I wouldn't be very happy if Town rested a player so hed be fit and firing for an international game! he's now asking for 100k a week, think the hype has got to him and thinks he can do what he wants now. No excuse as a 19 year old to be too tired to play. Theres a big dispute over whether he actually did say he was too tired to play but don't think a player saying he feels a bit jaded or tired is a problem at all myself. Just being honest. I get the feeling Hodgson has tried to use the whole incident as a way of getting back at Liverpool over the criticism they gave him about Sturridge and he's exaggerated and made up a lot of it. Made himself look a bit stupid IMO and destroyed a lot of trust between himself and his players at the same time. Even if Sterling had said that, it shouldn't have gone any further. Youngsters are far more likely to feel jaded than players in their 20s. Anyone with a 19 year old kid knows they'll sleep all day long if they can. I know I would when I was 19. Sterling seems to have gone from being a fringe Liverpool player, to carrying both club and country all in less than a year, with all the added pressure and scrutiny that comes with that. Its no surprise he feels jaded. As for his wage demands, again- hes Liverpools key player now. Why would he be happy to be that and at the same time earn a lot less than many of his team mates? Particularly when he knows thered be a queue of clubs offering him vast amounts if he became available to move.
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Post by Captainslapper on Oct 21, 2014 9:55:18 GMT 1
To be fair though, Liverpool are paying him something like £50k a week whereas england pay him sod all. I wouldn't be very happy if Town rested a player so hed be fit and firing for an international game! But if there was genuine concern about a possible burn out on rodgers behalf he would not have played in the capital one cup, especially now they've got champions league football on top of the premier league and FA cup, Fenners. Fair point, although he may not have felt jaded at that time. Id also guess Rodgers expected to cruise past Boro and hed be able to take his key men off after an hour or so. But it didn't pan out like that. Im surprised hes that bothered about the league cup to be honest.
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Post by pieeater on Oct 21, 2014 9:55:37 GMT 1
he's now asking for 100k a week, think the hype has got to him and thinks he can do what he wants now. No excuse as a 19 year old to be too tired to play. Theres a big dispute over whether he actually did say he was too tired to play but don't think a player saying he feels a bit jaded or tired is a problem at all myself. Just being honest. I get the feeling Hodgson has tried to use the whole incident as a way of getting back at Liverpool over the criticism they gave him about Sturridge and he's exaggerated and made up a lot of it. Made himself look a bit stupid IMO and destroyed a lot of trust between himself and his players at the same time. Even if Sterling had said that, it shouldn't have gone any further. Youngsters are far more likely to feel jaded than players in their 20s. Anyone with a 19 year old kid knows they'll sleep all day long if they can. I know I would when I was 19. Sterling seems to have gone from being a fringe Liverpool player, to carrying both club and country all in less than a year, with all the added pressure and scrutiny that comes with that. Its no surprise he feels jaded. As for his wage demands, again- hes Liverpools key player now. Why would he be happy to be that and at the same time earn a lot less than many of his team mates? Particularly when he knows thered be a queue of clubs offering him vast amounts if he became available to move. Right on all counts IMO. You can't blame the individual players for the crazy salaries footballers get. And Sterling looks likely to be England and Liverpool's (if they can keep him) best player for some time to come, a genuine world class talent. He needs coddling, not slating.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 10:06:11 GMT 1
If I was as big and strong as him, I think I would have exploded several times jeez, what have I walked in on here? Off topic?
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Post by Porrohman on Oct 21, 2014 10:08:04 GMT 1
He would be tired, all those kids to father and all those women to beat up. He may be a good player, although I've not seen him do owt noteable for England (except get sent off) and I refuse to watch when self pity city are on, but he's a scumbag. A lad at works mate went to Anfield last year and driving away he was hit from behind by a white Overfinch Range Rover, when he got out it was Stirling and he just told him to contact Liverpool and drove off, the lad got the damage paid for by the club but not so much as an apology from Stirling
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Post by Amigo on Oct 21, 2014 12:02:14 GMT 1
he scored the 2 goals to beat milwall at the start of this little run were on, and was out of the team for the next game at wolves...clear example of squad rotation No, sorry mate. Having bagged Holt he's changed the system to one that suits him/us and doesn't suit Wells. Bold decision, but not squad rotation. We haven't played the same formation consecutively since Holt came though? To say he's changed the system is a bit daft when we started with Wells at Blackburn in a 4-4-2 which was a whole 2 games ago. He's shown he'll change the system depending on the opposition.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 13:45:18 GMT 1
No, sorry mate. Having bagged Holt he's changed the system to one that suits him/us and doesn't suit Wells. Bold decision, but not squad rotation. We haven't played the same formation consecutively since Holt came though? To say he's changed the system is a bit daft when we started with Wells at Blackburn in a 4-4-2 which was a whole 2 games ago. He's shown he'll change the system depending on the opposition. Fair do's. But he's not rotating players as such, he's rotating systems that suit us in any particular game. But whichever system he chooses, you can bet your life Wells won't be in at the expense of Holt. Therefore it's not player rotation.
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Post by Amigo on Oct 21, 2014 13:51:49 GMT 1
We haven't played the same formation consecutively since Holt came though? To say he's changed the system is a bit daft when we started with Wells at Blackburn in a 4-4-2 which was a whole 2 games ago. He's shown he'll change the system depending on the opposition. Fair do's. But he's not rotating players as such, he's rotating systems that suit us in any particular game. But whichever system he chooses, you can bet your life Wells won't be in at the expense of Holt. Therefore it's not player rotation. He's rotated him with Hogg for the last 3 games I've got a feeling he might start tonight and that's why he didn't get on at the weekend because him up against Clarke and that tiring back line of Blackpool's could've got us another goal or 2 on Saturday. Brighton seem to play 4-3-3/4-5-1 a lot so it will be interesting to see if we match them or he decides to go with something different.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 21, 2014 13:54:50 GMT 1
Fair do's. But he's not rotating players as such, he's rotating systems that suit us in any particular game. But whichever system he chooses, you can bet your life Wells won't be in at the expense of Holt. Therefore it's not player rotation. He's rotated him with Hogg for the last 3 games I've got a feeling he might start tonight and that's why he didn't get on at the weekend because him up against Clarke and that tiring back line of Blackpool's could've got us another goal or 2 on Saturday. Brighton seem to play 4-3-3/4-5-1 a lot so it will be interesting to see if we match them or he decides to go with something different. Hogg was out because he was injured I think - not rotated. I can't recall Town rotating anybody? Fielded weakened teams a few times mind you
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 14:11:33 GMT 1
Fair do's. But he's not rotating players as such, he's rotating systems that suit us in any particular game. But whichever system he chooses, you can bet your life Wells won't be in at the expense of Holt. Therefore it's not player rotation. He's rotated him with Hogg for the last 3 games I've got a feeling he might start tonight and that's why he didn't get on at the weekend because him up against Clarke and that tiring back line of Blackpool's could've got us another goal or 2 on Saturday. Brighton seem to play 4-3-3/4-5-1 a lot so it will be interesting to see if we match them or he decides to go with something different. But not Holt - as I said. Personally i think the three in the middle suits us, and with our two wide men (Bunn supplementing Holt at any given moment) it looks the perfect formation for us.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Oct 21, 2014 14:34:55 GMT 1
With regards to Sterling.. as the Specials once said "too much too young".
He is already in his own world of overinflated importance and his ego has become about 3 times larger than he is. His game and career are way more important than Liverpool's result and Englands is even less important towards his move and the 'big payday'...
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 16:29:29 GMT 1
Overrated. What exactly does he do except score brilliant goals all the time.
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Post by Skint Terriers on Nov 1, 2014 19:54:00 GMT 1
He's playing better now and is starting to look an amazing player for us. He was overrated when this post was made ages ago though so nobody try be clever
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Post by hypotenuse on Nov 1, 2014 20:02:28 GMT 1
Ryan - I agree with you. I last saw him v Boro and he (along with a few others) was dreadful. Different player now - quicker to the ball, timing jumps better to win headers, tackling back defensively? turning cleverly with the ball and not losing possession so readily. Powell has worked a miracle.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Nov 1, 2014 20:18:08 GMT 1
Confidence can be a wonderful thing. Not being clever at all Ryan but after ploughing his lone furrow for neigh on 10 months I'm sure it's a blessed relief to have company up front especially when it's alongside a colossus like Holt who loves the physical battle with defenders.
Wells will always look better in a pair and will be no more than a pest to 2 central defenders on his own.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 1, 2014 22:14:33 GMT 1
jeez, what have I walked in on here? Off topic? made me laugh whatever
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