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Post by blueray4 on Oct 25, 2014 21:50:07 GMT 1
Didn't Powell mention Scannell had a slight injury from Tues night. Perhaps that is why he didn't start.
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Post by Colt Seavers on Oct 25, 2014 21:54:14 GMT 1
Powell for me cost us 3 points today. More Colt classics If you bothered watching mid week, you would have noticed that both Scanz and Bunn we running on fumes for most of the second half. Both these players are 'new' to starting game after game and were clearly showing signs of tiredness. CP rests then for an away game (rightly in my view) and then brings them both on to good effect. Great away point (could have been 3 but hey-ho) Professional footballers tired. Fuck my old boots. Think i will ring in Monday and tell my gaffer i am tired. Oh but like a hero Scanz was doing his bit for the community at half 7 on Thursday. Some people are so blinkered, maybe we could try wrapping them up in cotton wool when they are walking from the pitch to the changing room.
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Post by Colt Seavers on Oct 25, 2014 21:55:52 GMT 1
Didn't Powell mention Scannell had a slight injury from Tues night. Perhaps that is why he didn't start. Or maybe it was a Smokescreen to justify a terrible team selection. Certainly showed no signs of fatigue or injury when he came on.
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Post by richhtfc on Oct 25, 2014 21:55:57 GMT 1
Too much is being made of the tiredness issue. If anyone should be tired its Ipswich. We've had 2 home games, Ipswich had a mammoth midweek trip to Cardiff. Granted we had to travel to Suffolk but we'll have had an overnight stay, although Ipswich probably stayed over, still a logistical nightmare. The club knew this week was coming. The next few days should be used to rest if they're feeling the strain of the last weeks games. On Scannell, I can understand why he was dropped to the bench, Tuesday he went off holding his groin, so maybe he was still feeling it. Got to agree with this, the needing a rest/fitness thing is such a crock of shit. We're constantly fed that players 'aren't quite fit/need a couple more practice martches and then when they perform at their best they're rested. Pro cyclists will do three week tours riding at full tilt for 5-6 hours a day. If they can rest for 8 hours and perform again 4 days is surely plenty for a professional footballer to recover enough to perform for 90minutes. If they can't then it basically means the squad isn't fit enough.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 21:56:47 GMT 1
Powell for me cost us 3 points today. More Colt classics If you bothered watching mid week, you would have noticed that both Scanz and Bunn we running on fumes for most of the second half. Both these players are 'new' to starting game after game and were clearly showing signs of tiredness. CP rests then for an away game (rightly in my view) and then brings them both on to good effect. Great away point (could have been 3 but hey-ho) not surprised there tired if they drink petrol
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Post by johncoddington5 on Oct 25, 2014 21:57:51 GMT 1
5-3-2 was how we set up . And it worked . Ipswich were not a threat from open play . We should have been comfortable at half time. We missed clear chances . Powell was spot on today .
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Post by portugalterrier on Oct 25, 2014 22:04:02 GMT 1
Powell explained his use of the squad, move on and let him manage instead of trying to play the know it all. Am sure you can find something else to be negative about.
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Post by portugalterrier on Oct 25, 2014 22:05:39 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 22:06:14 GMT 1
Think we've got to bear in mind how long Powells been here, he's still learning about our squad, this divisions not just about a strong first 11 if we can be adaptable it could put us in a good position later in the season. Owt to moan about i suppose though.
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Post by slackjaw on Oct 25, 2014 22:08:03 GMT 1
Colt for me, is fishing again today. ;-) Graham, you may well think you can judge me, but i am far from fishing. For the pedantic, then yes it was only 2, but you are not that fuckin thick not to understand what i meant. The 2 main players that have been getting rave reviews are left on the bench. I told my dad before KO, when he said that, that they deserved to get hammered with decision making like that. 2-0 down and then low and behold, Bunn and Scannell come on and the game changes. You might all want to blow smoke up his arse, but see when he makes mistakes and today he made one. Play your best team available and stop trying to be clever fucking about. clpeSpot on mate!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 22:12:35 GMT 1
Didn't Powell mention Scannell had a slight injury from Tues night. Perhaps that is why he didn't start. Or maybe it was a Smokescreen to justify a terrible team selection. Certainly showed no signs of fatigue or injury when he came on. Im not 100% on this but weren't you openly slatting Powell at first? If so maybe your trying to save face a bit by putting the boot in at ANY opportunity.
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Post by Colt Seavers on Oct 25, 2014 22:13:28 GMT 1
. Algarve Alan dishing the insults.
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Post by hypotenuse on Oct 25, 2014 22:17:50 GMT 1
Yeah this squad rotation is really shit. Only idiots do it - like Mourinho when Chelsea have 3 games in a week and you can see how crap they are doing as a result.
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Post by Colt Seavers on Oct 25, 2014 22:19:22 GMT 1
Or maybe it was a Smokescreen to justify a terrible team selection. Certainly showed no signs of fatigue or injury when he came on. Im not 100% on this but weren't you openly slatting Powell at first? If so maybe your trying to save face a bit by putting the boot in at ANY opportunity. Why am i trying to save face. He is doing a good job thus far, but that doesn't free him up from criticism where i see it is warranted.
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Post by upthetown on Oct 25, 2014 22:26:15 GMT 1
Colt for me, is fishing again today. ;-) Graham, you may well think you can judge me, but i am far from fishing. For the pedantic, then yes it was only 2, but you are not that fuckin thick not to understand what i meant. The 2 main players that have been getting rave reviews are left on the bench. I told my dad before KO, when he said that, that they deserved to get hammered with decision making like that. 2-0 down and then low and behold, Bunn and Scannell come on and the game changes. You might all want to blow smoke up his arse, but see when he makes mistakes and today he made one. Play your best team available and stop trying to be clever fucking about. First thing I did when I saw those two were benched was shake my head, felt like a poor decision. That said, I would have taken a point before kick off. Thus I feel his decision is vindicated. Scannell looked knackered last 10-15 mins vs Brighton, and Bunn is only just making his way as a key first team player. Decisions like today could well prolong their form over the season and reduce burnout. As frustrating as it is to miss our two most exciting players.
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Post by turbo2 on Oct 25, 2014 22:26:23 GMT 1
More Colt classics If you bothered watching mid week, you would have noticed that both Scanz and Bunn we running on fumes for most of the second half. Both these players are 'new' to starting game after game and were clearly showing signs of tiredness. CP rests then for an away game (rightly in my view) and then brings them both on to good effect. Great away point (could have been 3 but hey-ho) Professional footballers tired. Fuck my old boots. Think i will ring in Monday and tell my gaffer i am tired. Oh but like a hero Scanz was doing his bit for the community at half 7 on Thursday. Some people are so blinkered, maybe we could try wrapping them up in cotton wool when they are walking from the pitch to the changing room. Did I mention the word 'Tired'. I said 'running on fumes'. Their legs had gone.They had nothing left to give and for me should both have been removed after 60 mins mid-week. I certainly would not have started them today. Being tired, is totally different to being 'match fit' Ive told you before Colt, ive forgotten more than you know about football!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 22:29:14 GMT 1
Im not 100% on this but weren't you openly slatting Powell at first? If so maybe your trying to save face a bit by putting the boot in at ANY opportunity. Why am i trying to save face. He is doing a good job thus far, but that doesn't free him up from criticism where i see it is warranted. Comes across that way to me, then and again I knew there would have been a few know it alls spouting after today, maybe Powell fancied our dangerous wide men would be more effective coming on against a tiring side maybe it was something else or a combination. Doesn't really matter though you've got your bone.
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Post by Colt Seavers on Oct 25, 2014 22:42:48 GMT 1
Professional footballers tired. Fuck my old boots. Think i will ring in Monday and tell my gaffer i am tired. Oh but like a hero Scanz was doing his bit for the community at half 7 on Thursday. Some people are so blinkered, maybe we could try wrapping them up in cotton wool when they are walking from the pitch to the changing room. Did I mention the word 'Tired'. I said 'running on fumes'. Their legs had gone.They had nothing left to give and for me should both have been removed after 60 mins mid-week. I certainly would not have started them today. Being tired, is totally different to being 'match fit' Ive told you before Colt, ive forgotten more than you know about football!!!! You're still a novice playing catch up kid.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 25, 2014 22:54:45 GMT 1
5-3-2 was how we set up . And it worked . Ipswich were not a threat from open play . We should have been comfortable at half time. We missed clear chances . Powell was spot on today . Agreed - it wasn't the system that put us 2 - 0 down - just poor work at corners. We outplayed them with a 3-5-2 and we outplayed them with a 4-4-2.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Oct 25, 2014 23:20:21 GMT 1
Colt- I like you but you are a prize dick sometimes
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Post by sapphireblue on Oct 26, 2014 0:06:36 GMT 1
Colt- I like you but you are a prize dick sometimes Yes, but he is really good at putting pictures on the internet, trying to belittle people, so what he says must be true.
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Post by ACW on Oct 26, 2014 1:06:27 GMT 1
5-3-2 was how we set up . And it worked . Ipswich were not a threat from open play . We should have been comfortable at half time. We missed clear chances . Powell was spot on today . Agreed - it wasn't the system that put us 2 - 0 down - just poor work at corners. We outplayed them with a 3-5-2 and we outplayed them with a 4-4-2. From what I understand we were very unfortunate to be 2-0 and were the better team for most of the match - long before the subs came on. Powell has admitted sometimes he'll get it wrong, but today it sounds like poor defending at corners and an inability to take our chances cost us the 3 points - not Powell's tactics. I was a bit critical of Powell after his first few games but since then he has got far more right than he has got wrong. To get a point at Ipswich, a place where we have struggled to get results in recent years, and to do so whilst playing well will do for me. I was dreading the run of tough-looking games we have coming up (Forest, Derby, etc), but at the moment I'm reasonably confident. We're playing well and are a game for anyone at the moment.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 26, 2014 1:19:15 GMT 1
We were the better team for much of the match. Lingering feeling for me is though that if we had started off 4-3-3 we could have won convincingly. We didn't - got a very decent point - onwards and upwards, with a confident squad going in to the Forest game with no fear.
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Post by trailingleg on Oct 26, 2014 7:52:10 GMT 1
If you play what was essentially a defensive formation for an hour, then the least you should expect is for them to defend set pieces better than they do. Very poor defending yet again. This could cost us our c'ship status. That said I couldn't believe we went in 1-0 down at half time, because we looked the better team, but it coulld've been more after the goalmouth melee which we managed to create for ourselves and got away with by the skin of our teeth. I wish Smithies could command his area better, but then if he could he would probably be in the P'ship by now. Fantastic comeback though and disappointed not to win this. Fans terrific.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 8:01:05 GMT 1
If you play what was essentially a defensive formation for an hour, then the least you should expect is for them to defend set pieces better than they do. Very poor defending yet again. This could cost us our c'ship status. That said I couldn't believe we went in 1-0 down at half time, because we looked the better team, but it coulld've been more after the goalmouth melee which we managed to create for ourselves and got away with by the skin of our teeth. I wish Smithies could command his area better, but then if he could he would probably be in the P'ship by now. Fantastic comeback though and disappointed not to win this. Fans terrific.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 8:01:13 GMT 1
Colt- I like you but you are a prize dick sometimes Yes, but he is really good at putting pictures on the internet, trying to belittle people, so what he says must be true. I can't believe that anybody still even bothers replying to this painful attention seeker, who just tries to be 'controversial' so that he can engineer an opportunity to put others down (No doubt to make himself feel better about some personal inadequacy). He's pathetic, just block him and move on.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Oct 26, 2014 8:10:46 GMT 1
An outstanding performance yesterday and how anyone can complain us beyond me. We could easily have been 2 up at half time but that's how it goes sometimes. Even at 2 down heads didn't drop and at 2-2 Ipswich were bricking it. We deserved to win but I'll always take a point at Portman Road, well done CP.
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Post by ruud1boy on Oct 26, 2014 8:20:24 GMT 1
Pro cyclists will do three week tours riding at full tilt for 5-6 hours a day. That's stretching it a bit. It's usually 3-4hrs a day & the majority are just rolling along in the bunch chatting. If they were doing 'full tilt - steady - full tilt - steady - full tilt again' ad nauseum, as wingers do, you might have a point.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 8:24:45 GMT 1
An outstanding performance yesterday and how anyone can complain us beyond me. We could easily have been 2 up at half time but that's how it goes sometimes. Even at 2 down heads didn't drop and at 2-2 Ipswich were bricking it. We deserved to win but I'll always take a point at Portman Road, well done CP. People aren't complaining, they're simply making observations about how we might have turned a very good point into three. I wouldn't worry about it too much - it's what message boards are for. Personally speaking, I thought he could have made those two changes at half time after showing them a little too much respect then discovering they were poor. He made a rod for his own back by waiting till they'd scored a second. But we escaped and got the point which we would all have taken before the game started. Onwards!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2014 9:16:48 GMT 1
Powell was talking in the press conference on Thursday about how hard the players had worked on Tuesday, and mentioned then that he was "hopeful" that Scannell would be fit, and the difficulty of playing 3 games in a week. Obviously that's the same for the opposition as well, but it's up to each manager to judge his own players and whether they are going to be able to give 100% for every game.
CP also mentioned that he could have started Hogg at Blackburn, but instead decided to make sure he would be 100% ready rather than playing him and risk having out again for a period of games. This is clearly the stance he wants to take. Scannell in particular is a confidence player, imagine if he starts him at Ipswich, and Scanz has a poor game because he's not feeling fully fit, the knock on effect over what is a tough period of games before the next international break could leave us with the Scannell we were lumbered with until Lillis gave him a fresh start.
Powell knows the players better than any of us on here, and he knows more about the management of them as well. A point at Ipswich is a good result, nobody knows we would have won if we'd started Bunn and Scannell, we could have gone 2-0 up then been pegged back - who's to know? Apart from Colt of course!
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