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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 0:10:13 GMT 1
When leaving the game yesterday I was keen to see the goal again as I thought initially Smithies was at fault.
Having seen it I can honestly say imo Smithies was not at fault positionally, the deflection left him clawing thin air.
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Post by htfcfcfc on Dec 22, 2014 1:25:45 GMT 1
1. I'm still not convinced on the deflection but either way the gk still looks clumsy. I couldn't have had a better line of the free kick from my seat and the deviation in line was minimal whether it was a deflection or a 'wobble' on the ball
2. If we could convert a header we could have won 3-1 yesterday. Other than that we were terrible and any result in our favour would have papered over a horrible tactical performance.
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Post by Captainslapper on Dec 22, 2014 1:30:27 GMT 1
How was his positioning wrong when , but for the deflection, it would have been straight at him?
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Post by impact on Dec 22, 2014 1:38:40 GMT 1
Having seen the deflection, I take back what I said about it being a poor mistake. He possibly could have done better but it would have been an amazing save to keep it out. The blame therefore lies with the 3 outfield players who contributed to the foul being committed.
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Post by Floyds on Dec 22, 2014 1:53:49 GMT 1
It's all completely academic in any case.
Why does it matter if deflected or otherwise?
He will be playing next week regardless.
Best off just drawing a line under it and cracking on.
You can apportion blame to all eleven from Saturday, in fairness.
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Post by yoy on Dec 22, 2014 8:14:28 GMT 1
I've watched it three or four times and can barely see a deflection. Smithies gets more stick than is justified but that shot should have been stopped!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 8:21:13 GMT 1
I've watched it three or four times and can barely see a deflection. Smithies gets more stick than is justified but that shot should have been stopped! The deflection is only noticeable after the Birmingham players have celebrated and the last replay is from behind the goal. It's not a huge deflection, but at pace it doesn't need to be.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 22, 2014 8:26:23 GMT 1
It's all completely academic in any case. Why does it matter if deflected or otherwise? He will be playing next week regardless. Best off just drawing a line under it and cracking on. You can apportion blame to all eleven from Saturday, in fairness. If Murphy is fit he would have good chance, he's more solid.
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Post by Marco4 on Dec 22, 2014 8:28:00 GMT 1
Yeah, looks awful for Smithies. Tried to adjust but ended getting caught between the two saves he was trying to make. At that speed there's not a lot he could do, just try to get something onto it when he saw it had been deflected.
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Post by yoy on Dec 22, 2014 8:47:22 GMT 1
I've watched it three or four times and can barely see a deflection. Smithies gets more stick than is justified but that shot should have been stopped! The deflection is only noticeable after the Birmingham players have celebrated and the last replay is from behind the goal. It's not a huge deflection, but at pace it doesn't need to be. Yep - I've looked at that one too. Perhaps my expectations are too high but it looks a pretty routine save to me. I suspect if you asked Alex then he'd be disappointed with himself.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 10:11:35 GMT 1
It's all completely academic in any case. Why does it matter if deflected or otherwise? He will be playing next week regardless. Best off just drawing a line under it and cracking on. You can apportion blame to all eleven from Saturday, in fairness. If Murphy is fit he would have good chance, he's more solid. What are you basing that on? The 5 goals he conceded in the cup (I'm not saying he was at fault for any of them, but you managed to blame Smithies for the 5 at Norwich without even seeing them)? Or the crosses he flapped at against Sheff Wed? You claim Smithies doesn't command his area, but are unable to give a single example of it. It's just an idea that seems to have been placed in your mind and you're desperately looking for evidence to prove it. Even if it was a Smithies howler for the goal (which it clearly wasn't), there were far bigger problems in an all round abject performance against one of the worst teams we'll play all season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2014 10:20:49 GMT 1
I called the deflection at the time as I was sat right in line with it. No question that's what did Smithies.
We weren't very good on Saturday but we were very unlucky to lose as they offered bugger all. A deflected winner - fine margins.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Dec 22, 2014 10:35:00 GMT 1
If Murphy is fit he would have good chance, he's more solid. What are you basing that on? The 5 goals he conceded in the cup (I'm not saying he was at fault for any of them, but you managed to blame Smithies for the 5 at Norwich without even seeing them)? Or the crosses he flapped at against Sheff Wed? You claim Smithies doesn't command his area, but are unable to give a single example of it. It's just an idea that seems to have been placed in your mind and you're desperately looking for evidence to prove it. Even if it was a Smithies howler for the goal (which it clearly wasn't), there were far bigger problems in an all round abject performance against one of the worst teams we'll play all season. As for commanding his area Murphy looked suspect to every cross and corner Weds put in.
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Post by Torquayterrier on Dec 22, 2014 13:09:13 GMT 1
Only just seen the version with the view from behind the goal. Can't believe anyone can say he 'should have saved it anyway'. It's not a massive deflection but at that speed it's just enough to put Smithies out of position and he's screwed.
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