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Post by thrice on Feb 1, 2015 11:39:26 GMT 1
If not now, then when...? Don't know, hard to say really, probably when he's ready, on last weeks showing with Powell watching....Not yet. Lolley on the other hand played very well and thought he would have got 30 minutes at least yesterday. Play Reading at the stadium at 1pm on the 3rd Feb. Will be watching. The truth is that they will never be ready. Be brave, give them their opportunity & see if they sink or swim. We wasted a dozen 'safe' games at the end of last season to do just that, let's not waste such an opportunity again.
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Post by AndySk on Feb 1, 2015 11:41:09 GMT 1
I dread to think what Austin would have done to Gobern if he had been in there. Never mind him, Billing needs to be staking a claim in there. After watching Billing for the U21s last week against Sheffield Utd. Not yet. Well after watching Gobern many times for the first XI he def ain't the answer. Missing Hogg
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Post by fredcarno1 on Feb 1, 2015 14:38:48 GMT 1
I thought Edgar was a half decent signing as cover across the defence, but as a central midfielder no way. He makes Gerrard look like Glenn Hoddle in the passing stakes, his passing for a professional footballer is embarrassing. Just sums up what a farce of a transfer window it's been up to press. We've signed a pretty average centrehalf and decided to play him in midfield ! You couldn't make it up. If Edgar in centre mid is the way forward at home they better start giving out Prozac on the turnstiles.
If he'd got any deeper in the first half he'd have in the plumbing aisle at B and Q. The way we set out at home against a team with one away win all season was laughable. Perfect opportunity to get some floating fans back down if we'd given a good account of ourselves but Powell sends us out for a draw from the word go.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 1, 2015 15:27:15 GMT 1
I thought Edgar was a half decent signing as cover across the defence, but as a central midfielder no way. He makes Gerrard look like Glenn Hoddle in the passing stakes, his passing for a professional footballer is embarrassing. Just sums up what a farce of a transfer window it's been up to press. We've signed a pretty average centrehalf and decided to play him in midfield ! You couldn't make it up. If Edgar in centre mid is the way forward at home they better start giving out Prozac on the turnstiles. If he'd got any deeper in the first half he'd have in the plumbing aisle at B and Q. The way we set out at home against a team with one away win all season was laughable. Perfect opportunity to get some floating fans back down if we'd given a good account of ourselves but Powell sends us out for a draw from the word go. Made me chuckle, something bloody needs to after that shite. Well done.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 17:13:59 GMT 1
Don't know, hard to say really, probably when he's ready, on last weeks showing with Powell watching....Not yet. Lolley on the other hand played very well and thought he would have got 30 minutes at least yesterday. Play Reading at the stadium at 1pm on the 3rd Feb. Will be watching. The truth is that they will never be ready. Be brave, give them their opportunity & see if they sink or swim. We wasted a dozen 'safe' games at the end of last season to do just that, let's not waste such an opportunity again. The truth is some will not make it, the guys responsible for there development (Mark Lillis) will know and advise Powell. Sink or swim? Could be a lot of prematurely drowned corpses if some had there way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 1, 2015 17:24:02 GMT 1
I sometimes wonder if what we need is just a total rebuild of the squad, and that might involve a mass influx of the young uns. obviously the current squad is simply not good enough and the youth set up might be the very thing we need to kickstart our rise up the championship.
if they are good enough. we need to find out and soon.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Feb 1, 2015 18:44:05 GMT 1
You've got to question the quality of what our academy is turning out if a centrehalf who can't get a game for Birmingham is our best option in centre midfield !
I fully expect Edgar to form the backbone of Powells dross that we need to ship out summer 2016.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Feb 1, 2015 20:56:13 GMT 1
I thought at Wigan Edgar was excellent and yesterday he was ok and did the job asked of him (whether you agree with the tactics or not)
Apart from the first 20 mins and last 5 we were the better team. Most did okay but crucially only Scannell was what you'd class as good on the day
I actually thought our weakest player was Robinson who never got tight on his winger all game meaning Leeds always had an easy out ball to the right. Also both their goals came down his flank. Robinson is a good player but yesterday he was targeted and struggled IMO even his touch was ropey
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Post by fredcarno1 on Feb 1, 2015 22:22:19 GMT 1
I thought Edgar was abysmal yesterday, he looked exactly like what he is. A centre half playing in midfield, it's all well and good breaking up play if all you do is give the ball to the opposition. I was actually embarrassed for him when a couple of times the space opened up in front of him when he had the ball, he had absoloutely no idea what to do. Not sure if he was instructed where to play but I don't think I've ever seen a centre midfielder play in between the centre halves in a home game before !!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 1, 2015 22:28:22 GMT 1
I thought Edgar was abysmal yesterday, he looked exactly like what he is. A centre half playing in midfield, it's all well and good breaking up play if all you do is give the ball to the opposition. I was actually embarrassed for him when a couple of times the space opened up in front of him when he had the ball, he had absoloutely no idea what to do. Not sure if he was instructed where to play but I don't think I've ever seen a centre midfielder play in between the centre halves in a home game before !! Some posters seem to think he did ok ? , he looked like a fish out of water, aimless at times, looked so average it was untrue. He's the sole result of January incomings, FFs, I'd be worried if I was Deano.
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Post by Giggity on Feb 1, 2015 22:36:15 GMT 1
I thought at Wigan Edgar was excellent and yesterday he was ok and did the job asked of him (whether you agree with the tactics or not) Apart from the first 20 mins and last 5 we were the better team. Most did okay but crucially only Scannell was what you'd class as good on the day I actually thought our weakest player was Robinson who never got tight on his winger all game meaning Leeds always had an easy out ball to the right. Also both their goals came down his flank. Robinson is a good player but yesterday he was targeted and struggled IMO even his touch was ropey What did he do at Wigan? Won his headers and made one good covering run to hold Fortune up. Apart from that, he aimlessly hoofed the ball up field. It's criminal that he is played in midfield at Championship level. Mr Rooney Rule needs reassessing if he persists with Edgar in that position.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Feb 1, 2015 23:27:28 GMT 1
I thought at Wigan Edgar was excellent and yesterday he was ok and did the job asked of him (whether you agree with the tactics or not) Apart from the first 20 mins and last 5 we were the better team. Most did okay but crucially only Scannell was what you'd class as good on the day I actually thought our weakest player was Robinson who never got tight on his winger all game meaning Leeds always had an easy out ball to the right. Also both their goals came down his flank. Robinson is a good player but yesterday he was targeted and struggled IMO even his touch was ropey What did he do at Wigan? Won his headers and made one good covering run to hold Fortune up. Apart from that, he aimlessly hoofed the ball up field. It's criminal that he is played in midfield at Championship level. Mr Rooney Rule needs reassessing if he persists with Edgar in that position. He won headers, dropped into the back when needed (making us look a lot more solid - very easy clean sheet for Smithies) and broke up attacks and played simple passes. He also covered a lot of ground and ultimately cramped up. Basically the role of a holding midfielder
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Post by Mr Breitside on Feb 1, 2015 23:33:59 GMT 1
It's not just his performance that is the issue it's the fact Coady is then played out of position.
Powell is reported in the Examiner as saying 'signings must be right for the club'... is this what he calls right ?
Utility players might be the way forward, that way we can reduce the squad size...?
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Post by 3Pipe on Feb 1, 2015 23:36:49 GMT 1
It's not just his performance that is the issue it's the fact Coady is then played out of position. Spot on.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 1, 2015 23:40:19 GMT 1
Is anyone else a bit concerned what's happening with Town ? It just does not feel right to me.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Feb 2, 2015 0:15:57 GMT 1
Edgar Allan Poe could do a better job than this clogger!
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Feb 2, 2015 0:17:30 GMT 1
Edgar Allan Poe could do a better job than this clogger! Lol
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Post by trevorhtfc on Feb 2, 2015 1:12:22 GMT 1
It's not just his performance that is the issue it's the fact Coady is then played out of position. Spot on. disagree, coadys best performance in ages have been at home to watford and at wigan were he played ahead of gobern or edgar. Also no surprise to see him score at rotherham when he moved further up . He actually has the ability to retain possession higher up the pitch and i think get a few goals, especially with his height Hes wasted strolling around in front of the back four and he doesn't seem to protect the defence much either, a lot of the goals we concede on highlights he's ambling around not doing a great deal
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Post by andy112 on Feb 2, 2015 11:31:51 GMT 1
It's not just his performance that is the issue it's the fact Coady is then played out of position. Spot on. Yep, this was the issue for me too. Edgar did exactly what was asked of him - which was to stop the runs coming from deep putting pressure on our centre halves. Leeds looked completely devoid of ideas 2nd half as Edgar and Lynch mopped up everything they threw at them. Unfortunately, Coady doing the same role further up the field meant we were effectively playing with 10 men as there was no job to perform there meaning the game was just bypassing him. Powell should have spotted this, like everyone else in the ground seemed to, and brought on either Majewski or Gobern to help link defence and attack. Instead, he seemed content to settle for a point until the injury to Lynch put paid to that.
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Post by htfcjack27 on Feb 6, 2015 22:08:14 GMT 1
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