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Post by terrierpark on Mar 5, 2015 19:02:56 GMT 1
I disagree. Such a slapshod approach will eventually end in relegation. We cannot keep being lucky, very soon one of those poor 3 teams will be us. Then when we are eventually relegated after not giving it one single good go in this division we will go straight back to the football wilderness. Our football philosophy is wrong. The way we introduce our youth players is wrong. Our loan signings are wrong. The ambition of the club is wrong. Teams who come up and want to be competetive in this division do not play so negatively. We aren't 'luckily' in mid table. We're there because we deserve to be there. This idea that we're somehow 'lucky' that some teams are worse than us is a pile of hogshit. You earn your finishing spot, good or bad. IMO we'll finish about 14-16th in the table because we're the 14th to 16th best team in this division. That'll be an improvement on last season which was itself an improvement on the season before that. Thats a continuation of around 8 straight seasons of finishing in a better position than the previous season- yet the 'ambition of the club is wrong' ?? Laughable. In terms of revenue, crowd sizes and budgets, we're punching a little above our weight. You want to see us give it a good go ( ie spend some money we don't actually have ) , then the answer is the same as with others who moan about that- get yourself down there with your millions, and we'll give it a good go with it!! The thing is captain its not just about that is it. We obviously had some money in the pot after ridding the deadwood only to bring in edgar who is barely championship standard and miller by default. There is no statement from the manager or the club that these savings are going towards the summer fund and we were all led to believe that this busy window was as much about ins as outs! Just telling folk to spend their own millions is laughable when you know full well many folks spend a very large part of their disposable income on Town.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2015 19:14:28 GMT 1
We aren't 'luckily' in mid table. We're there because we deserve to be there. This idea that we're somehow 'lucky' that some teams are worse than us is a pile of hogshit. You earn your finishing spot, good or bad. IMO we'll finish about 14-16th in the table because we're the 14th to 16th best team in this division. That'll be an improvement on last season which was itself an improvement on the season before that. Thats a continuation of around 8 straight seasons of finishing in a better position than the previous season- yet the 'ambition of the club is wrong' ?? Laughable. In terms of revenue, crowd sizes and budgets, we're punching a little above our weight. You want to see us give it a good go ( ie spend some money we don't actually have ) , then the answer is the same as with others who moan about that- get yourself down there with your millions, and we'll give it a good go with it!! The thing is captain its not just about that is it. We obviously had some money in the pot after ridding the deadwood only to bring in edgar who is barely championship standard and miller by default. There is no statement from the manager or the club that these savings are going towards the summer fund and we were all led to believe that this busy window was as much about ins as outs! Just telling folk to spend their own millions is laughable when you know full well many folks spend a very large part of their disposable income on Town. Don't mean to be funny mate but surely you've read the accounts they've been on here enough times, we are still loosing money unfortunately. Don't expect any statements of intent either on spending as I think the club is a bit smarter than to announce its splashing the cash before negotiating deals.
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 5, 2015 19:33:52 GMT 1
Tell you what then lad, why don't you shove your money in and make the difference? You haven't got £350m to invest? You know, there's a reason why DH has and you haven't, my friend! Too many posters on here are too fond of spending others' money, with no real idea of what to do with it. Tell you what then lad, why don't you take your head out of Dean Hoyles arse? No, stop your blubbering and get down there with your millions. Call in for art and one or two others on the way with their millions too. then lets have a really good go at it!!
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 5, 2015 19:42:37 GMT 1
We aren't 'luckily' in mid table. We're there because we deserve to be there. This idea that we're somehow 'lucky' that some teams are worse than us is a pile of hogshit. You earn your finishing spot, good or bad. IMO we'll finish about 14-16th in the table because we're the 14th to 16th best team in this division. That'll be an improvement on last season which was itself an improvement on the season before that. Thats a continuation of around 8 straight seasons of finishing in a better position than the previous season- yet the 'ambition of the club is wrong' ?? Laughable. In terms of revenue, crowd sizes and budgets, we're punching a little above our weight. You want to see us give it a good go ( ie spend some money we don't actually have ) , then the answer is the same as with others who moan about that- get yourself down there with your millions, and we'll give it a good go with it!! The thing is captain its not just about that is it. We obviously had some money in the pot after ridding the deadwood only to bring in edgar who is barely championship standard and miller by default. There is no statement from the manager or the club that these savings are going towards the summer fund and we were all led to believe that this busy window was as much about ins as outs! Just telling folk to spend their own millions is laughable when you know full well many folks spend a very large part of their disposable income on Town. Spending a few hundred quid a year is great and of course Town and any other club need that support. But thinking that gives you some sort of right to demand that dean Hoyle throws in a few more million on an annual basis, to go with the £7m hes already carrying us with, is UTTERLY laughable. All this blubbering and moaning is doing my head in. If i was Hoyle Id read the endless shite on sites like this ( and this site has been rammed full of shite for days now) and walk away. Cut my losses and do one. And the miserable negative gits can get back to enjoying the thrills of League 1 football in no time. Meanwhile, regardless of the deluded, negative bollocks people endlessly churn out on here, Town have got on with having one of the club's best finishing positions for 40 odd years!!
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Mar 5, 2015 19:48:20 GMT 1
Tell you what then lad, why don't you take your head out of Dean Hoyles arse? No, stop your blubbering and get down there with your millions. Call in for art and one or two others on the way with their millions too. then lets have a really good go at it!! Looking at it from a rational point of view we don't need to spend millions, we just need spend the little we have got more wisely. Bringing in Edgar & Miller has done nothing to improve the squad or results and we'd be much better off blooding some of the lads in my opinion. Give them a chance to shine now and we might just find that we have a gem or two on our books (Billing, Charles, Wright, Boyle etc), which may save us a fair bit in the summer.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Mar 5, 2015 20:18:50 GMT 1
No, stop your blubbering and get down there with your millions. Call in for art and one or two others on the way with their millions too. then lets have a really good go at it!! Looking at it from a rational point of view we don't need to spend millions, we just need spend the little we have got more wisely. Bringing in Edgar & Miller has done nothing to improve the squad or results and we'd be much better off blooding some of the lads in my opinion. Give them a chance to shine now and we might just find that we have a gem or two on our books (Billing, Charles, Wright, Boyle etc), which may save us a fair bit in the summer. Agree with this, the worrying thing about bringing in Edgar and Miller is that Powell was on record as saying he'd only bring in players that would improve us. If he thinks they are better than what we had he's watching a different game to me. I certainly would be a lot more excited at seeing how Billing or Tronstat would fare than seeing a nothing journeyman of a footballer in Edgar.
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 5, 2015 20:22:32 GMT 1
Agree frankie. Get a couple of more wins and Im sure we'll see some kids given more game time.
Spending millions doesn't guarantee anything. Fulham just about spent more on ONE player than Town have spent on players in our entire history back in the summer, to go with all their other expensive signings, and where are they in the table. Cardiff and a few others are the same.
Either way, what these moaners on here can't seem to get their heads round, is that you can't spend what you don't have- and we don't have millions to spend. End of.
They can either put their own millions on the table , persuade a few extra thousand fans to turn up each week, or try shutting up.
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Post by Yesss on Mar 6, 2015 0:42:55 GMT 1
Agree frankie. Get a couple of more wins and Im sure we'll see some kids given more game time. Spending millions doesn't guarantee anything. Fulham just about spent more on ONE player than Town have spent on players in our entire history back in the summer, to go with all their other expensive signings, and where are they in the table. Cardiff and a few others are the same. Either way, what these moaners on here can't seem to get their heads round, is that you can't spend what you don't have- and we don't have millions to spend. End of. They can either put their own millions on the table , persuade a few extra thousand fans to turn up each week, or try shutting up. Could you get your head anymore up Dean Hoyles arse?
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Post by pieeater on Mar 6, 2015 1:26:52 GMT 1
Agree frankie. Get a couple of more wins and Im sure we'll see some kids given more game time. Spending millions doesn't guarantee anything. Fulham just about spent more on ONE player than Town have spent on players in our entire history back in the summer, to go with all their other expensive signings, and where are they in the table. Cardiff and a few others are the same. Either way, what these moaners on here can't seem to get their heads round, is that you can't spend what you don't have- and we don't have millions to spend. End of. They can either put their own millions on the table , persuade a few extra thousand fans to turn up each week, or try shutting up. Could you get your head anymore up Dean Hoyles arse? Odd place to find the truth, but there you go...
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 6, 2015 1:54:32 GMT 1
Agree frankie. Get a couple of more wins and Im sure we'll see some kids given more game time. Spending millions doesn't guarantee anything. Fulham just about spent more on ONE player than Town have spent on players in our entire history back in the summer, to go with all their other expensive signings, and where are they in the table. Cardiff and a few others are the same. Either way, what these moaners on here can't seem to get their heads round, is that you can't spend what you don't have- and we don't have millions to spend. End of. They can either put their own millions on the table , persuade a few extra thousand fans to turn up each week, or try shutting up. Could you get your head anymore up Dean Hoyles arse? So understanding something means youve got your head up someones arse? You really are bloody clueless aren't you. Put some of your millions on the table, or try stopping making comments about something you clearly can't understand.
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Post by keithAM11532 on Mar 6, 2015 3:19:34 GMT 1
The thing is captain its not just about that is it. We obviously had some money in the pot after ridding the deadwood only to bring in edgar who is barely championship standard and miller by default. There is no statement from the manager or the club that these savings are going towards the summer fund and we were all led to believe that this busy window was as much about ins as outs! Just telling folk to spend their own millions is laughable when you know full well many folks spend a very large part of their disposable income on Town. Spending a few hundred quid a year is great and of course Town and any other club need that support. But thinking that gives you some sort of right to demand that dean Hoyle throws in a few more million on an annual basis, to go with the £7m hes already carrying us with, is UTTERLY laughable. All this blubbering and moaning is doing my head in. If i was Hoyle Id read the endless shite on sites like this ( and this site has been rammed full of shite for days now) and walk away. Cut my losses and do one. And the miserable negative gits can get back to enjoying the thrills of League 1 football in no time. Meanwhile, regardless of the deluded, negative bollocks people endlessly churn out on here, Town have got on with having one of the club's best finishing positions for 40 odd years!! may I buy you a pint Sir?
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Post by keithAM11532 on Mar 6, 2015 3:20:32 GMT 1
Could you get your head anymore up Dean Hoyles arse? So understanding something means youve got your head up someones arse? You really are bloody clueless aren't you. Put some of your millions on the table, or try stopping making comments about something you clearly can't understand. Block em Caps, its the only way
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 6, 2015 8:59:39 GMT 1
Trying to finish mid-table season after season will bite us on the arse one year. Wouldn't surprise me if It's next season, more money is needed from obvious people to keep getting us climbing in the league instead of trying to be clever and signing players from Birmingham and Blackpool. We don't try to finish midtable, just we're fine with that if we do.
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Post by Yesss on Mar 6, 2015 11:51:39 GMT 1
So understanding something means youve got your head up someones arse? You really are bloody clueless aren't you. Put some of your millions on the table, or try stopping making comments about something you clearly can't understand. Block em Caps, its the only way Ooooo friends
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Post by EatonRifles on Mar 6, 2015 11:57:53 GMT 1
At the moment I'm beginning to wonder if it's better that Edgar and Miller are copping the flack, I'd seriously worry for some of the youth we have coming through if they ended up getting a game. One wrong move and the majority of half-wits in the stadium would be groaning, moaning and doing their best to destroy any confidence that the young lads have.
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Post by terraceterrier on Mar 6, 2015 12:08:34 GMT 1
At the moment I'm beginning to wonder if it's better that Edgar and Miller are copping the flack, I'd seriously worry for some of the youth we have coming through if they ended up getting a game. One wrong move and the majority of half-wits in the stadium would be groaning, moaning and doing their best to destroy any confidence that the young lads have. You make good points look at Holmes last season didn't do much wrong just needed to keep making those cameo appearances whilst he worked in training on his weaknesses but look at the fallout folk babbling on about him being a 90 minute man and starting games
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