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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 19:49:08 GMT 1
1st game this season against Bournemouth although he did save a pen which he gave away to prevent it been 5-0 so guess he's a hero. To name a couple of more games off the top of my head, Fullham away Middlesbrough away Rotherham Sat for the one on one with Sammon although already 1-0 down, The 90min+ goals conceeded away at Rotherham, Norwich away when they gave us a right hiding to kick start there season, Brentford and Charlton also of recent games. All of which i went to, Also his positioning which i have questioned could have cost even more goals had the opposition had someone on the end of balls which have been flashed accross the net. Most consistent player of the season, Yeh you are right, Very consistent at picking the ball out of the net. Well Done. If you went to all these games why didn't you get a season ticket? All you've signed up to do is slag off Smithies and state you don't have a season ticket this season and won't have one next season, jog on. As some of these games were away games why would i need a season ticket and as for your response of Jog on, It hurts when the proof is in the pudding, You is the pudding the proof i have provided, I couldn't commit to every game preseason although i have managed to get to more games than i first thought i would. I haven't signed up to slag Smithies off at all, I am stating my opinion which when it goes against the grain on here you get slatted for it, Smithies has been poor which has contributed to a large number of the goals conceeded anyone who can't see that is deluded. Now how do you say it, Jog on
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Post by bluebeard on Mar 9, 2015 19:49:54 GMT 1
Smithies might make a few good saves in a game every blue moon and he his a world beater in some fans eyes. The big clubs looked at him a few years back and they must have seem plenty of flaws in his game, because if i remember rightly, only Stoke made a bid. There are some very good keepers in The Championship but Smithies is not one of them, very average at best.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 19:50:40 GMT 1
1st game this season against Bournemouth although he did save a pen which he gave away to prevent it been 5-0 so guess he's a hero. To name a couple of more games off the top of my head, Fullham away Middlesbrough away Rotherham Sat for the one on one with Sammon although already 1-0 down, The 90min+ goals conceeded away at Rotherham, Norwich away when they gave us a right hiding to kick start there season, Brentford and Charlton also of recent games. All of which i went to, Also his positioning which i have questioned could have cost even more goals had the opposition had someone on the end of balls which have been flashed accross the net. Most consistent player of the season, Yeh you are right, Very consistent at picking the ball out of the net. Well Done. Thanks for clarifying, you obviously don't understand the difference between a goalkeeping error and one that he could do nothing about. Oh right, Like Smithies not been at full stretch to save CS goal for there second or save the one at the feet for there 1st yes, He could do nothing about them.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 19:56:29 GMT 1
So name them then, as you've been asked to do countless times. The fact that you haven't only makes you rants look even more bizarre. For what's worth, I can think of 2 this season. I'm not sure what you were expecting when you made your OP - you've called for our most consistent player since we got to the Championship to be dropped, did you not expect people to ask for examples or be able to back your point up? 1st game this season against Bournemouth although he did save a pen which he gave away to prevent it been 5-0 so guess he's a hero. To name a couple of more games off the top of my head, Fullham away Middlesbrough away Rotherham Sat for the one on one with Sammon although already 1-0 down, The 90min+ goals conceeded away at Rotherham, Norwich away when they gave us a right hiding to kick start there season, Brentford and Charlton also of recent games. All of which i went to, Also his positioning which i have questioned could have cost even more goals had the opposition had someone on the end of balls which have been flashed accross the net. Most consistent player of the season, Yeh you are right, Very consistent at picking the ball out of the net. Well Done. One on one with Sammon You have no idea what you're talking about, you don't even know what a one on one is.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 20:04:57 GMT 1
1st game this season against Bournemouth although he did save a pen which he gave away to prevent it been 5-0 so guess he's a hero. To name a couple of more games off the top of my head, Fullham away Middlesbrough away Rotherham Sat for the one on one with Sammon although already 1-0 down, The 90min+ goals conceeded away at Rotherham, Norwich away when they gave us a right hiding to kick start there season, Brentford and Charlton also of recent games. All of which i went to, Also his positioning which i have questioned could have cost even more goals had the opposition had someone on the end of balls which have been flashed accross the net. Most consistent player of the season, Yeh you are right, Very consistent at picking the ball out of the net. Well Done. One on one with Sammon You have no idea what you're talking about, you don't even know what a one on one is. When the ball was played through to Sammon, It was inevitable he was going to shoot, therefore one on one with Smithies, Yes there were other players around the area but Smithies was still not at full stretch, Further more i didn't know what i was talking about before i qouted the games, Now i have i am been pulled on the positioning of the Rotherham Second goal, Case proved, It's you lot that don't know what you are talking about.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 20:07:50 GMT 1
Most of you lot on here who are defending him Don't even go to the games anyway, You are on here most match days typing away whilst the game is under way judging by the timings of your posts on match days, And most don't go to the away games, Yet you feel that listening to the radio or reading a report makes you a expert, Its laughable.
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Post by saintlyterrier on Mar 9, 2015 21:09:01 GMT 1
I go to away games. I'm no expert, but I do judge keepers by those whom I also see at St Mary's (I watch about half Saints' home gomes). Smithies would not look out of place in the Premier League.
Let us end this thread now.
We won't agree. (I just happen to think I'm right!)
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:28:54 GMT 1
Come on then Ben lets have a reaction after Saturday cos i am still fuming, Smithies has cost us points, Every game we lose is down to the opposition putting the Ball in the back of our net, Smithies only Job is to Keep that ball out of our net end of, He has failed to do this on 60+ occasions this season and 9x in the last three games, Some muppet said to me on Sat yes but he made a good save in the first half, So what if he he still let another 2x goals in means nothing. For example Theo Robinson got laughed off the pitch at many a game for not been able to put the ball away, Many on here say Ward and Stead aren't good enough for us even though they continue to score goals for new clubs and do the job they are asked to do, So you will have to forgive me if i don't take any notice of you or think you are right because it's all bollox, Smithies is employed to keep that ball out of the net, The goals against backs up what i am saying regardless of how bad the defence is, Which i agree is shit, But so is he. What a load of waffle, every bit of it. I asked you to name me a game and goal that Smithies was directly responsible for where we dropped points this season. You've given me nothing because there isn't one. I've given you examples of saves that have saved/gained us points. You're agenda is embarrassing, making out that smithies is the worst player to grace towns turf. Get some facts and then come back, because your having a shocker. I'd say the Leeds away game he was at fault and the Birmingham game. But people will come out with excuses as to why those goals weren't his fault All about opinions
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:33:35 GMT 1
What a load of waffle, every bit of it. I asked you to name me a game and goal that Smithies was directly responsible for where we dropped points this season. You've given me nothing because there isn't one. I've given you examples of saves that have saved/gained us points. You're agenda is embarrassing, making out that smithies is the worst player to grace towns turf. Get some facts and then come back, because your having a shocker. I'd say the Leeds away game he was at fault and the Birmingham game. But people will come out with excuses as to why those goals weren't his fault All about opinions I wasn't at Leeds sadly so can't comment on that game as I wasn't their or can I remember the highlights but Birmingham the free kick took a deflection off Hoggs head who was in the wall.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:35:06 GMT 1
Most of you lot on here who are defending him Don't even go to the games anyway, You are on here most match days typing away whilst the game is under way judging by the timings of your posts on match days, And most don't go to the away games, Yet you feel that listening to the radio or reading a report makes you a expert, Its laughable. I've been to every home game (including pre season) except reading cup match. I've been to about 75% of the away games so far this season. Trust me, your wrong on all counts.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:37:05 GMT 1
I'd say the Leeds away game he was at fault and the Birmingham game. But people will come out with excuses as to why those goals weren't his fault All about opinions I wasn't at Leeds sadly so can't comment on that game as I wasn't their or can I remember the highlights but Birmingham the free kick took a deflection off Hoggs head who was in the wall. Here's a reminder First goal it goes straight through him. Some tried to claim it deflected but if it did it was the smallest deflection ever and the ball still went straight at him Second he is in no mans land Third there was only one place he was putting it and it was a weak hand Yes the defending was also shocking for all three goals but he hardly covered himself in glory. Then again he rarely does against Leeds
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 9, 2015 22:39:10 GMT 1
What a load of waffle, every bit of it. I asked you to name me a game and goal that Smithies was directly responsible for where we dropped points this season. You've given me nothing because there isn't one. I've given you examples of saves that have saved/gained us points. You're agenda is embarrassing, making out that smithies is the worst player to grace towns turf. Get some facts and then come back, because your having a shocker. I'd say the Leeds away game he was at fault and the Birmingham game. But people will come out with excuses as to why those goals weren't his fault All about opinions It is about opinions, but even you must be in shock at just how dillusional Haveit's opinion is. NB- he at least could've done better v Brum. Can't remember Leeds away!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:40:41 GMT 1
I'd say the Leeds away game he was at fault and the Birmingham game. But people will come out with excuses as to why those goals weren't his fault All about opinions It is about opinions, but even you must be in shock at the just how dillusional Haveit's opinion is. NB- he at least could've done better v Brum. Can't remember Leeds away! Smithies is a good keeper at this level, he makes mistakes like all keepers I was just trying to offer some balance after it was claimed he hasn't cost us any points
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 9, 2015 22:44:21 GMT 1
It is about opinions, but even you must be in shock at the just how dillusional Haveit's opinion is. NB- he at least could've done better v Brum. Can't remember Leeds away! Smithies is a good keeper at this level, he makes mistakes like all keepers I was just trying to offer some balance after it was claimed he hasn't cost us any points Realise that, but having seen the Leeds clips, I don't think they were stinkers (like he had a few of at the back end of last season).
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 22:49:13 GMT 1
I wasn't at Leeds sadly so can't comment on that game as I wasn't their or can I remember the highlights but Birmingham the free kick took a deflection off Hoggs head who was in the wall. Here's a reminder First goal it goes straight through him. Some tried to claim it deflected but if it did it was the smallest deflection ever and the ball still went straight at him Second he is in no mans land Third there was only one place he was putting it and it was a weak hand Yes the defending was also shocking for all three goals but he hardly covered himself in glory. Then again he rarely does against Leeds Don't deny he can do better, they aren't stinkers and I would say overall this season he's been pretty faultless. I would put money on that he wins players player of the year.
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Post by space hardware on Mar 9, 2015 22:54:07 GMT 1
Smithies is a lower end Championship keeper,playing for a lower end Championship club.
Plenty of time for him to kick on but I do think his progress has stalled a bit.
It's laughable to claim that he's shit or that we should get rid though. He isn't and we shouldn't.
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Mar 9, 2015 23:42:35 GMT 1
haveit is another WUM laughing at serious responses.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2015 23:42:47 GMT 1
One on one with Sammon You have no idea what you're talking about, you don't even know what a one on one is. When the ball was played through to Sammon, It was inevitable he was going to shoot, therefore one on one with Smithies, Yes there were other players around the area but Smithies was still not at full stretch, Further more i didn't know what i was talking about before i qouted the games, Now i have i am been pulled on the positioning of the Rotherham Second goal, Case proved, It's you lot that don't know what you are talking about. The only thing you've proved is you don't have a clue. So let's get this straight. A shot on goal from outside the box, approx. 19 yards out with the keeper 4 or 5 yards off his line constitutes a one on one? Yeah right! Any shot from anywhere is a one on one then.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 10:04:43 GMT 1
I must be a WUM cos I think he's average at best. The blind praise he gets on here properly baffles me, rose-tinted surely.
Leeds away this year, Jesus wept.
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 10, 2015 16:01:14 GMT 1
1st game this season against Bournemouth although he did save a pen which he gave away to prevent it been 5-0 so guess he's a hero. To name a couple of more games off the top of my head, Fullham away Middlesbrough away Rotherham Sat for the one on one with Sammon although already 1-0 down, The 90min+ goals conceeded away at Rotherham, Norwich away when they gave us a right hiding to kick start there season, Brentford and Charlton also of recent games. All of which i went to, Also his positioning which i have questioned could have cost even more goals had the opposition had someone on the end of balls which have been flashed accross the net. Most consistent player of the season, Yeh you are right, Very consistent at picking the ball out of the net. Well Done. One on one with Sammon You have no idea what you're talking about, you don't even know what a one on one is. Is a one on one not when the striker has only the keeper to beat? So no defenders between the striker and goal, and whether he was in or out of the box makes no difference. So, it kinda was a one on one.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 16:08:02 GMT 1
maybe it is time for him to go, for his sake as well as for ours?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 18:12:09 GMT 1
One on one with Sammon You have no idea what you're talking about, you don't even know what a one on one is. Is a one on one not when the striker has only the keeper to beat? So no defenders between the striker and goal, and whether he was in or out of the box makes no difference. So, it kinda was a one on one. There were actually three players forward of the scorer, when he struck, one Rotherham player stood in an offside position and two Town, with Robinson making a failed challenge. In the normal interpretation of a one on one I disagree.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 10, 2015 18:19:33 GMT 1
I suspect some failed footballers have come amongst us. same ages, roughly as smithies...
green eyed monster rears its ugly head..
you have to let it go...
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Post by EastCoastTerrier on Mar 10, 2015 18:24:33 GMT 1
Is a one on one not when the striker has only the keeper to beat? So no defenders between the striker and goal, and whether he was in or out of the box makes no difference. So, it kinda was a one on one. There were actually three players forward of the scorer, when he struck, one Rotherham player stood in an offside position and two Town, with Robinson making a failed challenge. In the normal interpretation of a one on one I disagree. From my angle it seemed defenders were in his vicinity, and closer to the town goal, but not Inbetween the striker and goal. So he has all the goal to aim at if you like. However it may have just been the angle I saw it from as it wasn't the clearest.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Mar 10, 2015 18:30:40 GMT 1
salmon could have passed it into the net, as it was he hit it quite sweetly from 18 yards...we had a load watching him hit it... smithies becomes a spectator from that distance after he caught it well and the direction was good..
question more of non defending rather than bad defending or poor goalkeeping..
salmon goes from being offside to mooching out a yard or two and across a bit with the town defence stood in a line ..
ball watching to some tune, again..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 18:53:47 GMT 1
There were actually three players forward of the scorer, when he struck, one Rotherham player stood in an offside position and two Town, with Robinson making a failed challenge. In the normal interpretation of a one on one I disagree. From my angle it seemed defenders were in his vicinity, and closer to the town goal, but not Inbetween the striker and goal. So he has all the goal to aim at if you like. However it may have just been the angle I saw it from as it wasn't the clearest. Well i'll agree to disagree, one touch followed by a strike from outside the box with players in the box doesn't convey one on one to me,
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Post by ShortbreadPete on Mar 10, 2015 19:03:44 GMT 1
4 pages for a WUM post.
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Post by Captainslapper on Mar 10, 2015 19:22:01 GMT 1
haveit is another WUM laughing at serious responses. I hope so for his sake. If he isn't , then he takes cluelessness to new levels.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2015 19:46:36 GMT 1
haveit is another WUM laughing at serious responses. I hope so for his sake. If he isn't , then he takes cluelessness to new levels. Going by his personal message to me "Get a grip softlad" he's a scouse git.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Mar 10, 2015 19:49:15 GMT 1
maybe it is time for him to go, for his sake as well as for ours? Why?
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