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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 22:37:18 GMT 1
Some people don't seem to grasp that you won't pull out 10 Lionel Messi's on a hugely restricted budget. ;) His job is to find players, present a list of potential players to the manager using scouting reports, and data from prozone as a supplement as to why each player has been selected and what they can bring to a number of systems and roles, and then the manager makes the decision of which one to go for. I've heard a few things from someone close to him that he's had a number of very decent players lined up, but the lack of budget has sadly scuppered the majority of deals. Chris Wood and Benik Afobe for example. I was reading the Hatib Cham threads (LSM and Moaner were right btw) and we were talking about decent young players such as Danny Racchi, Adam Field etc not so long ago... All kids from within the Huddersfield area and borders. NONE of them would get close to our current 18's and 21's now. After Ross's networking we're bringing kids in from all over Ireland, Scotland, Scandinavia and the quality of kids has ramped up MASSIVELY from a few years ago when we were hoping Daniel Broadbent would be the next big thing. This time last year we had over 50 triallists in from all over the shop... Danny Kane is another one - the Irish schoolboy captain - he had the choice of Liverpool, Ipswich, us and a few others and due to Ross and Mark Lillis he chose us. We were also in the running for a very good young player from Oldham not so long since - he went to Man City, but the point is, pre RW we wouldn't even have identified him, never mind identified him at the same time as Man City and got us to the negotiation table and present a genuine alternative. The problem is that most of that is not visible and the work he does is almost stealth like, and because it's not in the public eye it's difficult to measure for people. His job goes way beyond the product on the pitch. Since his introduction Town's scouting network has gone way beyond anything that it's ever been before at all levels, the amount of data going through the club is 100% more. If there's a player that pops up, Town are no longer last to know about them, we're quite high up the queue - the problem as always for us is that other clubs also have a Ross Wilson and also have a much larger budget to beat us to these players. He did a good job. Could someone else have done it? Perhaps, but no one did. He'll be a miss for the club if he isn't sufficiently replaced, and hopefully the network he's set up at the club will remain in place for the next incumbent to be shot at by the DATM scapegoat crew. :) What did you say he does again?You joke, but Marcus will be back saying that in a few weeks time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 22:38:22 GMT 1
Some people don't seem to grasp that you won't pull out 10 Lionel Messi's on a hugely restricted budget. His job is to find players, present a list of potential players to the manager using scouting reports, and data from prozone as a supplement as to why each player has been selected and what they can bring to a number of systems and roles, and then the manager makes the decision of which one to go for. I've heard a few things from someone close to him that he's had a number of very decent players lined up, but the lack of budget has sadly scuppered the majority of deals. Chris Wood and Benik Afobe for example. I was reading the Hatib Cham threads (LSM and Moaner were right btw) and we were talking about decent young players such as Danny Racchi, Adam Field etc not so long ago... All kids from within the Huddersfield area and borders. NONE of them would get close to our current 18's and 21's now. After Ross's networking we're bringing kids in from all over Ireland, Scotland, Scandinavia and the quality of kids has ramped up MASSIVELY from a few years ago when we were hoping Daniel Broadbent would be the next big thing. This time last year we had over 50 triallists in from all over the shop... Danny Kane is another one - the Irish schoolboy captain - he had the choice of Liverpool, Ipswich, us and a few others and due to Ross and Mark Lillis he chose us. We were also in the running for a very good young player from Oldham not so long since - he went to Man City, but the point is, pre RW we wouldn't even have identified him, never mind identified him at the same time as Man City and got us to the negotiation table and present a genuine alternative. The problem is that most of that is not visible and the work he does is almost stealth like, and because it's not in the public eye it's difficult to measure for people. His job goes way beyond the product on the pitch. Since his introduction Town's scouting network has gone way beyond anything that it's ever been before at all levels, the amount of data going through the club is 100% more. If there's a player that pops up, Town are no longer last to know about them, we're quite high up the queue - the problem as always for us is that other clubs also have a Ross Wilson and also have a much larger budget to beat us to these players. He did a good job. Could someone else have done it? Perhaps, but no one did. He'll be a miss for the club if he isn't sufficiently replaced, and hopefully the network he's set up at the club will remain in place for the next incumbent to be shot at by the DATM scapegoat crew. Precisely how hard is it to identify Chris Wood and Benik Afobe as players that would improve the team? All of us could do that. All of us would also appreciate that players of that calibre are beyond our budget so I'm failing to see how groundbreaking his work was. Anyone could identify them fine, but identifying them and knowing about their potential availability under the radar before anyone else is another thing. If anyone could do his job, apply for it - it's available.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 22:38:50 GMT 1
Some people don't seem to grasp that you won't pull out 10 Lionel Messi's on a hugely restricted budget. ;) His job is to find players, present a list of potential players to the manager using scouting reports, and data from prozone as a supplement as to why each player has been selected and what they can bring to a number of systems and roles, and then the manager makes the decision of which one to go for. I've heard a few things from someone close to him that he's had a number of very decent players lined up, but the lack of budget has sadly scuppered the majority of deals. Chris Wood and Benik Afobe for example. I was reading the Hatib Cham threads (LSM and Moaner were right btw) and we were talking about decent young players such as Danny Racchi, Adam Field etc not so long ago... All kids from within the Huddersfield area and borders. NONE of them would get close to our current 18's and 21's now. After Ross's networking we're bringing kids in from all over Ireland, Scotland, Scandinavia and the quality of kids has ramped up MASSIVELY from a few years ago when we were hoping Daniel Broadbent would be the next big thing. This time last year we had over 50 triallists in from all over the shop... Danny Kane is another one - the Irish schoolboy captain - he had the choice of Liverpool, Ipswich, us and a few others and due to Ross and Mark Lillis he chose us. We were also in the running for a very good young player from Oldham not so long since - he went to Man City, but the point is, pre RW we wouldn't even have identified him, never mind identified him at the same time as Man City and got us to the negotiation table and present a genuine alternative. The problem is that most of that is not visible and the work he does is almost stealth like, and because it's not in the public eye it's difficult to measure for people. His job goes way beyond the product on the pitch. Since his introduction Town's scouting network has gone way beyond anything that it's ever been before at all levels, the amount of data going through the club is 100% more. If there's a player that pops up, Town are no longer last to know about them, we're quite high up the queue - the problem as always for us is that other clubs also have a Ross Wilson and also have a much larger budget to beat us to these players. He did a good job. Could someone else have done it? Perhaps, but no one did. He'll be a miss for the club if he isn't sufficiently replaced, and hopefully the network he's set up at the club will remain in place for the next incumbent to be shot at by the DATM scapegoat crew. :) Precisely how hard is it to identify Chris Wood and Benik Afobe as players that would improve the team? All of us could do that. All of us would also appreciate that players of that calibre are beyond our budget so I'm failing to see how groundbreaking his work was.Did you read paragraphs 3 and 4?
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Post by space hardware on Mar 25, 2015 22:41:12 GMT 1
Precisely how hard is it to identify Chris Wood and Benik Afobe as players that would improve the team? All of us could do that. All of us would also appreciate that players of that calibre are beyond our budget so I'm failing to see how groundbreaking his work was.Did you read paragraphs 3 and 4? I did indeed. Nothing groundbreaking in that either.
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Post by Giggity on Mar 25, 2015 22:47:51 GMT 1
Ross Wilson invented scouting.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 22:49:23 GMT 1
Did you read paragraphs 3 and 4? I did indeed. Nothing groundbreaking in that either. So why weren't we doing it previously, then? I don't think anyone is claiming he reinvented the wheel here. You may be one of people Hoyle was referring to when he said: "some supporters and our local media struggled to adjust to something that was new"
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Post by netterriers4 on Mar 25, 2015 22:50:49 GMT 1
What a load of rubbish Wilson his and will be first class for southampton and as been for town as for the point about the first team its all about whats available at the price and we are not in the same league money wise as some. Some people don't seem to grasp that you won't pull out 10 Lionel Messi's on a hugely restricted budget. His job is to find players, present a list of potential players to the manager using scouting reports, and data from prozone as a supplement as to why each player has been selected and what they can bring to a number of systems and roles, and then the manager makes the decision of which one to go for. I've heard a few things from someone close to him that he's had a number of very decent players lined up, but the lack of budget has sadly scuppered the majority of deals. Chris Wood and Benik Afobe for example. I was reading the Hatib Cham threads (LSM and Moaner were right btw) and we were talking about decent young players such as Danny Racchi, Adam Field etc not so long ago... All kids from within the Huddersfield area and borders. NONE of them would get close to our current 18's and 21's now. After Ross's networking we're bringing kids in from all over Ireland, Scotland, Scandinavia and the quality of kids has ramped up MASSIVELY from a few years ago when we were hoping Daniel Broadbent would be the next big thing. This time last year we had over 50 triallists in from all over the shop... Danny Kane is another one - the Irish schoolboy captain - he had the choice of Liverpool, Ipswich, us and a few others and due to Ross and Mark Lillis he chose us. We were also in the running for a very good young player from Oldham not so long since - he went to Man City, but the point is, pre RW we wouldn't even have identified him, never mind identified him at the same time as Man City and got us to the negotiation table and present a genuine alternative. The problem is that most of that is not visible and the work he does is almost stealth like, and because it's not in the public eye it's difficult to measure for people. His job goes way beyond the product on the pitch. Since his introduction Town's scouting network has gone way beyond anything that it's ever been before at all levels, the amount of data going through the club is 100% more. If there's a player that pops up, Town are no longer last to know about them, we're quite high up the queue - the problem as always for us is that other clubs also have a Ross Wilson and also have a much larger budget to beat us to these players. He did a good job. Could someone else have done it? Perhaps, but no one did. He'll be a miss for the club if he isn't sufficiently replaced, and hopefully the network he's set up at the club will remain in place for the next incumbent to be shot at by the DATM scapegoat crew. And therein lies the issue. Our academy performance is (IMO) questionable in that the only measure of success should be the number of players that migrate to the first team. DH might also add that we sell them for decent brass to that measure of success but hey!! How can his work and recruitment of these players be classed as anything other than making it less of a punt than it used to be. The young players researched and recruited aren't breaking in, yet our mates up the A62 have kids of the same age established in ther first team and a regular stream of kids behind. And no offence, but I would have suggested Wood and Afobe and I aren't RW so that doesn't strengthen your arguement.
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Post by space hardware on Mar 25, 2015 22:55:17 GMT 1
I did indeed. Nothing groundbreaking in that either. So why weren't we doing it previously, then? I don't think anyone is claiming he reinvented the wheel here. You may be one of people Hoyle was referring to when he said: "some supporters and our local media struggled to adjust to something that was new" Why weren't we doing it previously? You'd have to ask Dean Hoyle that. Whatever we were doing in the dark ages before Ross Wilson came along can't have been that bad. It saw us get promoted and make massive profits on several players.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 22:57:27 GMT 1
Lucky we have Ross Wikson directing our entire football operations, otherwise we'd be playing dull, sh1t football and only just avoiding relegation. (Maybe).
Phew, glad we have him until the end of the season. He's the messiah, without his golden touch, we'd be well in the shite.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 23:03:23 GMT 1
Lucky we have Ross Wikson directing our entire football operations, otherwise we'd be playing dull, sh1t football and only just avoiding relegation. (Maybe). Phew, glad we have him until the end of the season. He's the messiah, without his golden touch, we'd be well in the shite. I think I can accurately summarise your opinion in 9 words - I don't understand what he did, therefore he's shit.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 23:08:06 GMT 1
Some people don't seem to grasp that you won't pull out 10 Lionel Messi's on a hugely restricted budget. His job is to find players, present a list of potential players to the manager using scouting reports, and data from prozone as a supplement as to why each player has been selected and what they can bring to a number of systems and roles, and then the manager makes the decision of which one to go for. I've heard a few things from someone close to him that he's had a number of very decent players lined up, but the lack of budget has sadly scuppered the majority of deals. Chris Wood and Benik Afobe for example. I was reading the Hatib Cham threads (LSM and Moaner were right btw) and we were talking about decent young players such as Danny Racchi, Adam Field etc not so long ago... All kids from within the Huddersfield area and borders. NONE of them would get close to our current 18's and 21's now. After Ross's networking we're bringing kids in from all over Ireland, Scotland, Scandinavia and the quality of kids has ramped up MASSIVELY from a few years ago when we were hoping Daniel Broadbent would be the next big thing. This time last year we had over 50 triallists in from all over the shop... Danny Kane is another one - the Irish schoolboy captain - he had the choice of Liverpool, Ipswich, us and a few others and due to Ross and Mark Lillis he chose us. We were also in the running for a very good young player from Oldham not so long since - he went to Man City, but the point is, pre RW we wouldn't even have identified him, never mind identified him at the same time as Man City and got us to the negotiation table and present a genuine alternative. The problem is that most of that is not visible and the work he does is almost stealth like, and because it's not in the public eye it's difficult to measure for people. His job goes way beyond the product on the pitch. Since his introduction Town's scouting network has gone way beyond anything that it's ever been before at all levels, the amount of data going through the club is 100% more. If there's a player that pops up, Town are no longer last to know about them, we're quite high up the queue - the problem as always for us is that other clubs also have a Ross Wilson and also have a much larger budget to beat us to these players. He did a good job. Could someone else have done it? Perhaps, but no one did. He'll be a miss for the club if he isn't sufficiently replaced, and hopefully the network he's set up at the club will remain in place for the next incumbent to be shot at by the DATM scapegoat crew. And therein lies the issue. Our academy performance is (IMO) questionable in that the only measure of success should be the number of players that migrate to the first team. DH might also add that we sell them for decent brass to that measure of success but hey!! How can his work and recruitment of these players be classed as anything other than making it less of a punt than it used to be. The young players researched and recruited aren't breaking in, yet our mates up the A62 have kids of the same age established in ther first team and a regular stream of kids behind. And no offence, but I would have suggested Wood and Afobe and I aren't RW so that doesn't strengthen your arguement. Read my response to Space Hardware - it's not just the identifying, it's about the networking of his availability before anyone else - he was a day or two away from us before Leicester whacked down 25k p/w. Had we have had a better budget to satisfy him early, then he'd have been on the OS with a photo of him holding the shirt before they and the rest of the Championship would have been aware that he was free to move. Coady and Hogg are positive examples of hardly anyone knowing of their availability before we signed them. What people fail to grasp is that prior to him coming we were stabbing in the dark with players, we now have a network and infrastructure in place which rivals anyone in the Championship in terms of our UK recruitment. As Dean said of when we were promoted to the Champ, we only had a part time chief scout and not a lot else. Bryan Young the old chief scout used to work as a hospital porter 9-5 and have his phone switched off during that period. We've really developed since. The point you make is a good one re getting academy players into the first team, and yes I think there should be more stock in getting players into the first team than winning the u21's etc. Leeds are a funny one... Most of the kids breaking through now are between 18-21, but they've been at the club for over 10 years - back when Leeds were more of a force and had a top academy system. They are the tail end of what used to be very impressive conveyor belt, but that is now starting to stutter somewhat after Lewis Cook. Ross and the scouting teams job is to get them through the door, once they're here then it's up to the coaching staff and the first team manager - the players are there, the results and international call ups show it. The rest is up to Carss, Bunn, Lillis, Powell etc...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 23:14:38 GMT 1
So why weren't we doing it previously, then? I don't think anyone is claiming he reinvented the wheel here. You may be one of people Hoyle was referring to when he said: "some supporters and our local media struggled to adjust to something that was new" Why weren't we doing it previously? You'd have to ask Dean Hoyle that. Whatever we were doing in the dark ages before Ross Wilson came along can't have been that bad. It saw us get promoted and make massive profits on several players.We got promoted by massively outspending our rivals. That option isn't open to us in the Championship, so we have to try and to do it smarter. The Fresh Prince gives a number of good examples of players we've been able to bring into the youth team as a result of Wilson's work. Time will tell if they're as good as we hope, but we couldn't carry on signing players and giving them wages well above the rest of teams in the division once we got promoted. If you've a better idea of how we're ever going to compete at this level, please let us know.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 23:14:53 GMT 1
Lucky we have Ross Wikson directing our entire football operations, otherwise we'd be playing dull, sh1t football and only just avoiding relegation. (Maybe). Phew, glad we have him until the end of the season. He's the messiah, without his golden touch, we'd be well in the shite. I think I can accurately summarise your opinion in 8 words - I don't understand what he did, therefore he's shit. How about...he's in charge of our entire football operations and we are currently shit? How is he not responsible for us being shit, even in the eyes of the gullible?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 23:19:26 GMT 1
I think I can accurately summarise your opinion in 8 words - I don't understand what he did, therefore he's shit. How about...he's in charge of our entire football operations and we are currently shit? How is he not responsible for us being shit, even in the eyes of the gullible? Have another read of this www.htafc.com/news/article/huddersfield-town-dean-hoyle-ross-wilson-2338055.aspxNow do you still think he: - had final say on transfers
- picked the team
- trained the players
- played in any of the games
Or is it that you think none of that contributes to the performance of the first team?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 23:23:20 GMT 1
How about...he's in charge of our entire football operations and we are currently shit? How is he not responsible for us being shit, even in the eyes of the gullible? Have another read of this www.htafc.com/news/article/huddersfield-town-dean-hoyle-ross-wilson-2338055.aspxNow do you still think he: - had final say on transfers
- picked the team
- trained the players
- played in any of the games
Or is it that you think none of that contributes to the performance of the first team?
So being in charge of our entire football operations, meant he has nothing what so ever with our current football being shit? He's only responsible for the part of our entire football operations which aren't currently shit.... Like.... Errr....errrr... What exactly?
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 25, 2015 23:26:38 GMT 1
“Before Ross arrived, we had a handful of regional scouts looking purely at senior domestic players and a part-time Chief Scout looking mainly at the opposition – that was it! Other elements of our football operations were equally straight from the 1970s and 1980s. Analysis was limited, as was our recruitment process. Worse still, at the same time as the Club had been standing still, those above us had moved forward very quickly. These are the hidden consequences of the period out of the Championship that we are still trying to address now. Read more at www.htafc.com/news/article/huddersfield-town-dean-hoyle-ross-wilson-2338055.aspx#KRRR68xyATorycO6.99From Deano article, So he was in charge of scouting basically ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 23:27:25 GMT 1
So being in charge of our entire football operations, meant he has nothing what so ever with our current football being shit? He's only responsible for the part of our entire football operations which aren't currently shit.... Like.... Errr....errrr... What exactly? If we'd beaten Norwich, and beaten Fulham as you could argue we probably deserved to, you'd have absolutely no basis for your line of argument. So basically, because we were unlucky in the last two games, Ross Wilson is a wanker. You sir, are a clown.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Mar 25, 2015 23:29:48 GMT 1
Marcus you have this incredibly consistent knack of being able to talk utter horseshit on every subject you tackle.. And for that I salute you ( with two fingers )
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 23:35:27 GMT 1
So being in charge of our entire football operations, meant he has nothing what so ever with our current football being shit? He's only responsible for the part of our entire football operations which aren't currently shit.... Like.... Errr....errrr... What exactly?I now know how my chemistry teacher at school felt! You're obviously not going to be able to get your head around this, so I'm done trying explain it to you.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 25, 2015 23:36:43 GMT 1
Why don't we just get a top scout next time.
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Post by royrace on Mar 25, 2015 23:41:49 GMT 1
Lucky we have Ross Wikson directing our entire football operations, otherwise we'd be playing dull, sh1t football and only just avoiding relegation. (Maybe). Phew, glad we have him until the end of the season. He's the messiah, without his golden touch, we'd be well in the shite. I think I can accurately summarise your opinion in 9 words - I don't understand what he did, therefore he's shit. Thats as opposed to yours which can be summed up as ..... i dont understand what he did but everyone says hes brill so rather than forming my own opinion based on tangible results ill just believe them and if anyone disagrees about him being brill ill say they dont understand cos saints are in the prem and they want him. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards
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Post by pieeater on Mar 25, 2015 23:46:08 GMT 1
Great book. Worth reading for anyone interested in football
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 23:53:12 GMT 1
I think I can accurately summarise your opinion in 9 words - I don't understand what he did, therefore he's shit. Thats as opposed to yours which can be summed up as ..... i dont understand what he did but everyone says hes brill so rather than forming my own opinion based on tangible results ill just believe them and if anyone disagrees about him being brill ill say they dont understand cos saints are in the prem and they want him. Sent from my GT-I9505 using proboards Where do I say he did a brilliant job? I think time will tell in terms of the younger players we've brought in and infrastructure he's helped to put in place. I'm not sure how you could make proper judgement on him from the outside. I think the role is an important one for a club like us and find it frustrating when people criticise him without seeming to understand the remit of what he was here for.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 23:58:43 GMT 1
What a load of rubbish Wilson his and will be first class for southampton and as been for town as for the point about the first team its all about whats available at the price and we are not in the same league money wise as some. Some people don't seem to grasp that you won't pull out 10 Lionel Messi's on a hugely restricted budget. His job is to find players, present a list of potential players to the manager using scouting reports, and data from prozone as a supplement as to why each player has been selected and what they can bring to a number of systems and roles, and then the manager makes the decision of which one to go for. I've heard a few things from someone close to him that he's had a number of very decent players lined up, but the lack of budget has sadly scuppered the majority of deals. Chris Wood and Benik Afobe for example. I was reading the Hatib Cham threads (LSM and Moaner were right btw) and we were talking about decent young players such as Danny Racchi, Adam Field etc not so long ago... All kids from within the Huddersfield area and borders. NONE of them would get close to our current 18's and 21's now. After Ross's networking we're bringing kids in from all over Ireland, Scotland, Scandinavia and the quality of kids has ramped up MASSIVELY from a few years ago when we were hoping Daniel Broadbent would be the next big thing. This time last year we had over 50 triallists in from all over the shop... Danny Kane is another one - the Irish schoolboy captain - he had the choice of Liverpool, Ipswich, us and a few others and due to Ross and Mark Lillis he chose us. We were also in the running for a very good young player from Oldham not so long since - he went to Man City, but the point is, pre RW we wouldn't even have identified him, never mind identified him at the same time as Man City and got us to the negotiation table and present a genuine alternative. The problem is that most of that is not visible and the work he does is almost stealth like, and because it's not in the public eye it's difficult to measure for people. His job goes way beyond the product on the pitch. Since his introduction Town's scouting network has gone way beyond anything that it's ever been before at all levels, the amount of data going through the club is 100% more. If there's a player that pops up, Town are no longer last to know about them, we're quite high up the queue - the problem as always for us is that other clubs also have a Ross Wilson and also have a much larger budget to beat us to these players. He did a good job. Could someone else have done it? Perhaps, but no one did. He'll be a miss for the club if he isn't sufficiently replaced, and hopefully the network he's set up at the club will remain in place for the next incumbent to be shot at by the DATM scapegoat crew. Absolutely brilliant post, one that will hopefully provide some education to a number of people on here who are in desperate need of it.
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Post by Sio on Mar 25, 2015 23:59:57 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 0:00:37 GMT 1
Why don't we just get a top scout next time. My God Nick you're a genius, someone give Nick Deano's number, he is about to single handedly fire this Club to the Champions League final.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 0:16:23 GMT 1
Some people don't seem to grasp that you won't pull out 10 Lionel Messi's on a hugely restricted budget. His job is to find players, present a list of potential players to the manager using scouting reports, and data from prozone as a supplement as to why each player has been selected and what they can bring to a number of systems and roles, and then the manager makes the decision of which one to go for. I've heard a few things from someone close to him that he's had a number of very decent players lined up, but the lack of budget has sadly scuppered the majority of deals. Chris Wood and Benik Afobe for example. I was reading the Hatib Cham threads (LSM and Moaner were right btw) and we were talking about decent young players such as Danny Racchi, Adam Field etc not so long ago... All kids from within the Huddersfield area and borders. NONE of them would get close to our current 18's and 21's now. After Ross's networking we're bringing kids in from all over Ireland, Scotland, Scandinavia and the quality of kids has ramped up MASSIVELY from a few years ago when we were hoping Daniel Broadbent would be the next big thing. This time last year we had over 50 triallists in from all over the shop... Danny Kane is another one - the Irish schoolboy captain - he had the choice of Liverpool, Ipswich, us and a few others and due to Ross and Mark Lillis he chose us. We were also in the running for a very good young player from Oldham not so long since - he went to Man City, but the point is, pre RW we wouldn't even have identified him, never mind identified him at the same time as Man City and got us to the negotiation table and present a genuine alternative. The problem is that most of that is not visible and the work he does is almost stealth like, and because it's not in the public eye it's difficult to measure for people. His job goes way beyond the product on the pitch. Since his introduction Town's scouting network has gone way beyond anything that it's ever been before at all levels, the amount of data going through the club is 100% more. If there's a player that pops up, Town are no longer last to know about them, we're quite high up the queue - the problem as always for us is that other clubs also have a Ross Wilson and also have a much larger budget to beat us to these players. He did a good job. Could someone else have done it? Perhaps, but no one did. He'll be a miss for the club if he isn't sufficiently replaced, and hopefully the network he's set up at the club will remain in place for the next incumbent to be shot at by the DATM scapegoat crew. Absolutely brilliant post, one that will hopefully provide some education to a number of people on here who are in desperate need of it. Sadly Sheriff, I doubt they will have the patience to actually read all that and digest it.
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Post by rothwellterrier on Mar 26, 2015 8:52:37 GMT 1
Ross Wilson invented scouting. I always thought it was Baden Powell.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2015 9:08:39 GMT 1
Why don't we just get a top scout next time. My God Nick you're a genius, someone give Nick Deano's number, he is about to single handedly fire this Club to the Champions League final. Worth remembering at the start of this thread Nick sagely noted: "We need to get someone else in similar role."
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Post by iangreaves on Mar 26, 2015 9:08:43 GMT 1
So being in charge of our entire football operations, meant he has nothing what so ever with our current football being shit? He's only responsible for the part of our entire football operations which aren't currently shit.... Like.... Errr....errrr... What exactly? If we'd beaten Norwich, and beaten Fulham as you could argue we probably deserved to, you'd have absolutely no basis for your line of argument. So basically, because we were unlucky in the last two games, Ross Wilson is a wanker. You sir, are a clown. Until Sepp Blatter changes the rules of football to those of ice dancing, then points will continue to be determined by the number of goals you score compared with the number of goals you concede. A goal difference of minus 19 tells me that our league position is not the result of bad luck.
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