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Post by bluestripe on Apr 19, 2015 20:52:44 GMT 1
Heard he is hear with a view to joining permanently in the summer. IIRC you happened to join this site on the same day as Supernovak "retired". Total coincidence, I'm sure.
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Post by bluestripe on Apr 19, 2015 20:59:48 GMT 1
Heard he is hear with a view to joining permanently in the summer. IIRC you happened to join this site on the same day as Supernovak "retired". Total coincidence, I'm sure. Infact this was your second post on the same day, some might say fishy: NEWSNETWORK - PRESS RELEASE Love the split in who got it and those that didn't. Its sad for those people who choose to abuse him rather than appreciate his wacky genius. For me you would be welcome back anytime as the next re-incarnation of WONS, but i get the feeling that your retirement was just that and we wont hear it again, its a shame for the ones you did entertain and transfer windows will never be the same again. Ive also fallen into the trap of replying to it, which earlier i promised myself i wouldn't. I dont know how you manage to get everyone to follow your ramblings, genius. The dullards that are abusive are what makes this forum dreadful at times, not characters like you. If you look up through this post all the abusive comments are the people that need to address their behaviour. Take it easy, UTT. Read more: downatthemac.proboards.com/user/13465/recent?page=4#ixzz3XmrAmeCu
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Post by terriersyndrome on Apr 19, 2015 21:24:13 GMT 1
Whether it's on a permanent or a loan, he needs to be our first priority when the summer window opens. I can see him just getting better & better, his set pieces gives us another dimension at corners/freekicks aswell.. Sign him up!
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Post by Amigo on Apr 19, 2015 21:39:28 GMT 1
Not sure if we could sign him permanently or not but I'm sure Powell said not long ago we were looking at loaning him next season as well. My one worry would be his form has almost been too good and bigger clubs will be looking at him, hopefully he's enjoying his time here.
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Post by midge on Apr 20, 2015 12:49:06 GMT 1
James is twice the player of Robinson, better defender and not only goes forward well, but has an end product and puts in a good ball. Quality again today no coincidence the results have picked up since he slotted in nicely. .....and you're judging this on what!? 4 or 5 appearances of which you might have only seen 2 or 3!? Don't get me wrong, James looks a decent player and one we should be seriously looking at for next but to say he is TWICE the player Robinson is is utter bollox IMO!!?? Not withstanding the fact he did a more than decent job for us, Robinson is an England U21 international who has recently commanded a fee of £1 million, you're trying to tell us James is twice the player on a few appearances and a couple of good corners!!?? Give your head a shake!!!
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Post by mids on Apr 20, 2015 13:11:06 GMT 1
James is twice the player of Robinson, better defender and not only goes forward well, but has an end product and puts in a good ball. Quality again today no coincidence the results have picked up since he slotted in nicely. .....and you're judging this on what!? 4 or 5 appearances of which you might have only seen 2 or 3!? Don't get me wrong, James looks a decent player and one we should be seriously looking at for next but to say he is TWICE the player Robinson is is utter bollox IMO!!?? Not withstanding the fact he did a more than decent job for us, Robinson is an England U21 international who has recently commanded a fee of £1 million, you're trying to tell us James is twice the player on a few appearances and a couple of good corners!!?? Give your head a shake!!! C'mon Midge you know as well as I do that in DATM Land any knee jerk reaction is FACT Robinson was quality. James looks pretty good, so far.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 20, 2015 14:36:52 GMT 1
I liked Robinson but I was surprised he was an England U21 player. Obviously we haven't seen as much of James ( Ive only seen him twice i think) but on just those games he looks a level better than Robinson IMO. Whether hes just had a few exceptional games and his normal form isn't as good, time will tell.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 14:46:19 GMT 1
sign him up.
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Post by Terry Jacko on Apr 20, 2015 14:50:40 GMT 1
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Post by wtd on Apr 20, 2015 14:58:20 GMT 1
If he's shown in his short time here that he is capable of performing at the same (and arguably better) level as Robinson, and he is available to purchase at a reasonable price, then my hunch would be to get him in on a permanent. All players suffer loss of form, and consistency is something Powell and his coaches will have to work towards with him (like with all our players)... but please let us not lose out on a good player only for a Forest or a Derby to snap him up at our expense. We need a permanent left back... so let us be the ones to bag a good 'un before somebody else does.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 15:15:21 GMT 1
Defensively James look like he'd struggle in a flat back four. 3-5-2 suits his game perfectly due to his attacking nature but Jack Robinson is the best left-back I've seen in a Town shirt in my life.
Would I get James if he's available - I think so. Unless there are better options out there.
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Post by midge on Apr 20, 2015 15:54:28 GMT 1
I liked Robinson but I was surprised he was an England U21 player. Obviously we haven't seen as much of James ( Ive only seen him twice i think) but on just those games he looks a level better than Robinson IMO. Whether hes just had a few exceptional games and his normal form isn't as good, time will tell. That's a vastly different opinion to him being twice as good as Robinson and somehow almost solely responsible for our upturn in form though Skip, one you seemed to be agreeing with earlier in the thread. I don't agree with you that James is a level above but can certainly understand more how you might come to that conclusion on the games he has played. A counter argument would be that he is fortunate to come into a team which was already picking up form wise, and that it would have been better to judge him over a period where the team is playing well and badly as for Robinson. I would be more than happy to see him here next season and then we can judge him properly!!
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Post by midlander on Apr 20, 2015 15:58:21 GMT 1
Robinson was very, very good for us and enabled us to play the lop-sided formation that we do. There is a lot of pressure on the LB in our system as he has no natural protection or out-ball in front of him. One of the central midfielders (recently Oscar)or one of the strikers has to drop in and cover that area when we come under pressure. Needless to say, it does lead to a lot of pressure defensively on the left back. Robinson excelled defensively for me, was tall, reasonably quick and a good height. His distribution and attacking improved as the season went on as well, to the point where I could have made a case for Player of the Year candidate.
James isn't as athletic, but he is technically better than Robinson and he does deliver a good set-piece. Is he strong enough to play a full season in this formation, as we are basing any appraisal on five games? - Burke gave him a hard time at Forest, but he's generally coped quite well with people running at him otherwise.
I prefer Robinson but he won't be fit for August and may also not be available to buy either. If James is available, then I'd think that a season-long loan would be a decent option for Town to pursue. He seems like a neat and tidy, solid player - nothing spectacular - he'll be steady-away 6-7/10 each week probably. He offers us good delivery from right-sided corners. We also have to factor in that he is playing in a team that are putting together a string of performances which means they are all playing with confidence. It's easier to shine in that environment, but he has also contributed well to that confidence growing.
Looks like a decent prospect.
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 20, 2015 16:34:46 GMT 1
Just think James's use of the ball and composure in possession seem much better. Defensively, he doesn't seem any weaker to me even taking into account his small stature.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 16:54:18 GMT 1
Cant wait to see this lad play, really rated Robinson so he must be some talent!
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Post by 3Pipe on Apr 20, 2015 17:21:33 GMT 1
Great to see folk debating who is better of two very good players in a position we've been lacking in for years and years.
Season after season after season Clark never solved the problem, Grayson never solved the problem, Robins never solved the problem and this last season we've seen two crackers.
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Post by chinaski on Apr 20, 2015 17:26:15 GMT 1
Great to see folk debating who is better of two very good players in a position we've been lacking in for years and years. Season after season after season Clark never solved the problem, Grayson never solved the problem, Robins never solved the problem and this last season we've seen two crackers. I can't remember having a decent left back since Jamie Vincent.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Apr 20, 2015 17:26:51 GMT 1
I liked Robinson but I was surprised he was an England U21 player. Obviously we haven't seen as much of James ( Ive only seen him twice i think) but on just those games he looks a level better than Robinson IMO. Whether hes just had a few exceptional games and his normal form isn't as good, time will tell. They have different attributes and James is playing at a slightly easier time of the season. I grew to like Robinsons sliding left foot tackles and I feel he was a bit more secure defensively, but James has got a better composure and left foot in the attacking half. I like them both to be honest and full backs are a massive part of the modern team. If we can get better than Smith, Robinson and James in the summer - we'll be doing well. We need to get after a young centre half from the big clubs as well.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Apr 20, 2015 17:42:00 GMT 1
Great to see folk debating who is better of two very good players in a position we've been lacking in for years and years. Season after season after season Clark never solved the problem, Grayson never solved the problem, Robins never solved the problem and this last season we've seen two crackers. It's a good point and I'm not as much of a fan of Robinson as many others. I'd be in favour of James, but do agree Robinson looks stronger defensively, so it's not so clear cut at all.
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Post by Skint Terriers on Apr 20, 2015 17:50:36 GMT 1
defensive players seem to get better at defending over time so I'm sure in a few years he could be worth a couple million.
If we can get him for under 600k its a worthy investment I just worry United might want a mil for him and I doubt we'd be willing to pay anywhere near that especially for a left back
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Post by Captainslapper on Apr 20, 2015 17:56:04 GMT 1
United usually offload their unwanted kids pretty cheap but with very big sell ons. Think Norwoods was supposed to be about 40% of profit. Might be do-able. Are United definitely selling him, or we just hoping they are?
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Post by 3Pipe on Apr 20, 2015 18:10:31 GMT 1
Nobody knows.
Personally I doubt it. Hope we get him on loan though.
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Post by aca00js on Apr 20, 2015 18:25:08 GMT 1
Looks like he signed a new deal with United just before we got him on loan. Either they want to keep hold of him for now or his price has gone up. I expect him to be on loan here next season
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Post by Cole on Apr 20, 2015 18:26:58 GMT 1
Give me James all day. Corners actually look threatening now, he gets up for headers well considering his small size, he's good at knicking the ball from attackers and starting counter attacks and/or diffusing opposition fast breaks. A little bit inexperienced but you can see the quality in him.
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Post by 3Pipe on Apr 20, 2015 19:34:48 GMT 1
There's a good young left back about to play on ITV4 toneet. FA Youth Cup final, Angelino for Man C. Maybe one for a future loan market.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Apr 20, 2015 19:43:03 GMT 1
defensive players seem to get better at defending over time so I'm sure in a few years he could be worth a couple million. If we can get him for under 600k its a worthy investment I just worry United might want a mil for him and I doubt we'd be willing to pay anywhere near that especially for a left back Could be a 30 page thread on Town defenders who have not got better at defending over time
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Post by terrierfortythree on Apr 21, 2015 11:09:34 GMT 1
James is twice the player of Robinson, better defender and not only goes forward well, but has an end product and puts in a good ball. Quality again today no coincidence the results have picked up since he slotted in nicely. .....and you're judging this on what!? 4 or 5 appearances of which you might have only seen 2 or 3!? Don't get me wrong, James looks a decent player and one we should be seriously looking at for next but to say he is TWICE the player Robinson is is utter bollox IMO!!?? Not withstanding the fact he did a more than decent job for us, Robinson is an England U21 international who has recently commanded a fee of £1 million, you're trying to tell us James is twice the player on a few appearances and a couple of good corners!!?? Give your head a shake!!! well of course my judgement is made on 4 games, and the praise i gave on saturday was probably while i was in a very good mood after one of the most entertaining matches of the season, so to some maybe is now seen a few days later as caught up in the moment. I rate the lad, and hope we get him back for next season i really do, Robinson did a decent job for us but was overrated by a few on here IMO. To call bollocks is a bit extreme, but i suppose i've got to take my 'telling off' from a more experienced poster on this occasion, who looks like he or she is marking some posts from the weekend. Knee jerk or not, i suppose people don't like a bit of positivity or praise for new players on here, so we all must wait to 20 odd games? to pass judgement in the future
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Post by midge on Apr 21, 2015 14:03:20 GMT 1
.....and you're judging this on what!? 4 or 5 appearances of which you might have only seen 2 or 3!? Don't get me wrong, James looks a decent player and one we should be seriously looking at for next but to say he is TWICE the player Robinson is is utter bollox IMO!!?? Not withstanding the fact he did a more than decent job for us, Robinson is an England U21 international who has recently commanded a fee of £1 million, you're trying to tell us James is twice the player on a few appearances and a couple of good corners!!?? Give your head a shake!!! well of course my judgement is made on 4 games, and the praise i gave on saturday was probably while i was in a very good mood after one of the most entertaining matches of the season, so to some maybe is now seen a few days later as caught up in the moment. I rate the lad, and hope we get him back for next season i really do, Robinson did a decent job for us but was overrated by a few on here IMO. To call bollocks is a bit extreme, but i suppose i've got to take my 'telling off' from a more experienced poster on this occasion, who looks like he or she is marking some posts from the weekend. Knee jerk or not, i suppose people don't like a bit of positivity or praise for new players on here, so we all must wait to 20 odd games? to pass judgement in the future Ha Ha!! I love the intimation and great myth on here that there is some sort of DATM hierarchy dependant on how many posts you have made!!?? The idea that if you dare to challenge a 'newer' poster's opinion, you are automatically belittling them!!?? I can assure you that I merely comment on what I see and am not in the habit of 'marking posts from the weekend' or indeed 'telling off' people as a result and in terms of 'bollox' I would have said that to your face in the pub had you made such a comment and assumed we were all in an adult environment here!!?? Far from not liking positivity or praising new players, I suggest you read my post again!! I like the look of James and said that but was actually questioning your comparison to Robinson in terms of being 'twice the player'!! That would suggest to me that you were being negative about Robinson which you have back up by saying he was 'overrated'!!??.......but thanks anyway, I generally get accused of being a 'Happy Clapper'!!! In terms of how many games you judge a player on that's up to you, I just found it strange in the context of your bold claims about the lad when comparing him to Robinson!!??
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Post by impact on Apr 21, 2015 16:50:20 GMT 1
I'd be half tempted to sign him up just for his corners! We actually look threatening from them for the first time in years.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Apr 21, 2015 21:01:12 GMT 1
I'd be half tempted to sign him up just for his corners! We actually look threatening from them for the first time in years. Certainly do agree Usually we never ever look dangerous at corners.
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