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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 30, 2015 21:49:02 GMT 1
Rich, do you have permanent PMT?
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Post by richhtfc on Aug 30, 2015 21:52:04 GMT 1
I really struggle with the tide of negativity on here is all. Many of the most prolific contributors have no sense of relativity with what they post. It's rare the bigger picture is considered. I support the club and gave done 30+ years and I like to give them the benefit of the doubt, because that's what it's about as far as I'm concerned.
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 30, 2015 21:55:45 GMT 1
That's fair enough but cheer up a bit.
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 30, 2015 21:56:38 GMT 1
If my cuddly monkey having his beard combed doesn't bring a smile to the face nothing will.
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Post by richhtfc on Aug 30, 2015 21:57:06 GMT 1
That's fair enough but cheer up a bit. Ha, really? I'm usually very positive on here!
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Post by Frankiesleftpeg on Aug 30, 2015 22:08:18 GMT 1
Robins and Maskell, good as they were, both played in a lower division for us. Are you seriously suggesting that players who played at a lower level for us were better than Vaughan? Actually looking at some of your posts you probably are. Yeah as I saw them play without injury every game. You prob never saw them. I've been a supporter since 1967 so I've seen them all and yes at the time they were good for us, but just because they weren't injury prone doesn't make them better players.
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Post by waltzingthecowshed on Aug 30, 2015 23:21:23 GMT 1
One thing I respect powell on is his ability to get rid of players and wheel and deal. After I calmed down over the ridiculous signings of crayon and huws, I see they will probably be good additions. Especially based on what I saw yesterday. My major worry now, is we lack quality in every position. Last year you could look at the team and think..... We could do with a class centre back. We miss Coady. He was probably the player out of everyone with a bit of extra class that shouldn't have been sold. If we had have just sold smithies to balance the books we would have been in a better position. Whitehead has been bang average so far. He's no barry Horne. I like Whitehead, I think he 'owns' the area he patrols and strikes fear in to any opposing Player who enters it!. A very useful addition to the Team. Not sure we can play both him and Hogg though if we want to create more chances for the front Men. Hogg though is playing well so difficult one. Disagree , simply doesnt do what you say if he did we would be winning games, no-one fears this old has been simply poor
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Post by townrwe on Aug 31, 2015 8:23:57 GMT 1
Lots of rumours on twitter, wells linked with burnely and fulham, Fulham bid 2.5 million for scannell. Also Vaughan linked with Fulham, Blackburn and wigan and Wednesday have made enquiries for butterfield..... Sounds like Fulham want all towns players!!! More importantly, what does the news network say? Shut down. But had a word with super and he's convinced the Dutch lads we have been scouting for 3 years will sign this window.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 31, 2015 8:40:21 GMT 1
We need a perm striker in.
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Post by lochnessterrier on Aug 31, 2015 8:43:37 GMT 1
We need a perm striker in. Does he really have to have a perm? I don't mind him being bald so long as he knows where the net is.
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Aug 31, 2015 8:43:32 GMT 1
We need a perm striker in. Kevin Keegan?
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Post by Jello Biafra on Aug 31, 2015 8:44:42 GMT 1
We need a perm striker in. I doubt a new hairdo is going to make a great deal of difference to Town's goal output...
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 31, 2015 8:48:50 GMT 1
Lol, predictive, Premier loan I mean, don't care if he has a massive blue rinse if he scores every game.
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Post by specialun on Aug 31, 2015 11:38:38 GMT 1
If Miller is the answer I dread to think the question 4th choice, to bring off the bench for a 20 minute cameo, offer something different, come on away to hold up the ball - yes all good. Be a regular starter? No way. League 1 perhaps but championship - boy we're in the mire if this is the case! He isn't fit enough or enough stamina to last more than 65 minutes at full effort. He's good until he touches the ball - once its under control (can take a bit of time) he's got the kick and run down the left, otherwise - there's nothing. Its painful to watch at times. As for Vaughan - class apart when fit. 110%, fantastic in the air and a different level to Miller and I'd include Wells in that. He should have been starting today if ready - Who do we think we are, we can't afford our best players to not be playing. Accept for the wages he's on he isn't fit enough - I get that, but what are we going to do get another league 1 player in on loan or a guy from Middlesbrough's reserves to sit on the bench? Makes the Hiwula decision even more bizzre Whilst on attacking options - what the hell has Harry Bunn done wrong? Assist last week, and nowhere to be seen?! Was he too positive in his run? You mean the league one player who cost over 2 million quid not too long ago - yeah sure. No pal I mean the ex Crawley, Torquay, Lincoln, Kettering, Bristol Rovers player we've signed on loan from Middlesbrough.... look he may be good. This post isn't about him, I mean if we think we sign the equivilent of him as a striker than we're playing with fire. Point being is we need to reinvest the Smithies money / Coady money / savings on Smithies wages / savings on JV's wages on a proven striker not a season loan not a raw talent or in this case journeyman (harsh? a lot of clubs at 26!) who "may" be good. I don't class loans as reinvesting the money - its like a short term loan from Wonga. Some good may come from it. But at the end of the day you've lost the money with no asset value at the end of it! With what money we have we should be spending (buying) on proven quality / players who go straight into the first team.
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Post by rocky on Aug 31, 2015 11:44:48 GMT 1
I don't class loans as reinvesting the money - its like a short term loan from Wonga. Some good may come from it. But at the end of the day you've lost the money with no asset value at the end of it! With what money we have we should be spending (buying) on proven quality / players who go straight into the first team. The Championship player of last season (Bamford) was a season long loan, so was the lad who many thought should have won that award (Pritchard).
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Post by specialun on Aug 31, 2015 11:55:57 GMT 1
I don't class loans as reinvesting the money - its like a short term loan from Wonga. Some good may come from it. But at the end of the day you've lost the money with no asset value at the end of it! With what money we have we should be spending (buying) on proven quality / players who go straight into the first team. The Championship player of last season (Bamford) was a season long loan, so was the lad who many thought should have won that award (Pritchard). Fair point - Lets clarify, there's a bit of a difference between signing a highly rated Chelsea player and Spurs player (who would add quality without doubt) to a player from Championship reserves (an ex Torquay, Kettering, Lincoln, Bristol Rovers and Middlesbrough player etc) who may add to us or league 1 who hasn't played for 8 months not matter how highly rated he was / is / could be!
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Post by detox on Aug 31, 2015 12:06:40 GMT 1
Sometimes I don't think it matters...The talk in the Town camp seems to be...He's a good right back who we could convert into a CB...or he's a great central midfield player who we could play out on the left...he's agood strike partner so we'll play him up front on his own.. I thought Dean said square pegs in square holes....but we're back in to old habits - let's buy a left back and play him as a striker..who knows ? Town seem to be scratching around with a random series of panic decisions and there's little evidence of some overall strategic plan at the moment. if there was we'd already have a CB ..a striker and a RB by now...rather than another flurry of midfielders. harry bun had a great intro last season..attacking into the box, but because he can't double up as a left back, he's now on the bench..that's why we let Gary Roberts go..a great attacking winger, good crosser of the ball..but no good at full back..so out he went. We'll end up with 10 utility players...jacks of all and master of nowt...
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 31, 2015 12:16:58 GMT 1
Sometimes I don't think it matters...The talk in the Town camp seems to be...He's a good right back who we could convert into a CB...or he's a great central midfield player who we could play out on the left...he's agood strike partner so we'll play him up front on his own.. I thought Dean said square pegs in square holes....but we're back in to old habits - let's buy a left back and play him as a striker..who knows ? Town seem to be scratching around with a random series of panic decisions and there's little evidence of some overall strategic plan at the moment. if there was we'd already have a CB ..a striker and a RB by now...rather than another flurry of midfielders. harry bun had a great intro last season..attacking into the box, but because he can't double up as a left back, he's now on the bench..that's why we let Gary Roberts go..a great attacking winger, good crosser of the ball..but no good at full back..so out he went. We'll end up with 10 utility players...jacks of all and master of nowt... You make some fair points about utility players but I think you are wide of the mark regards Bunn and Roberts. Bunn got a good run because his defensive work is not bad - like Scannell. Roberts went because of his contract situation.
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Post by detox on Aug 31, 2015 12:59:14 GMT 1
Sometimes I don't think it matters...The talk in the Town camp seems to be...He's a good right back who we could convert into a CB...or he's a great central midfield player who we could play out on the left...he's agood strike partner so we'll play him up front on his own.. I thought Dean said square pegs in square holes....but we're back in to old habits - let's buy a left back and play him as a striker..who knows ? Town seem to be scratching around with a random series of panic decisions and there's little evidence of some overall strategic plan at the moment. if there was we'd already have a CB ..a striker and a RB by now...rather than another flurry of midfielders. harry bun had a great intro last season..attacking into the box, but because he can't double up as a left back, he's now on the bench..that's why we let Gary Roberts go..a great attacking winger, good crosser of the ball..but no good at full back..so out he went. We'll end up with 10 utility players...jacks of all and master of nowt... You make some fair points about utility players but I think you are wide of the mark regards Bunn and Roberts. Bunn got a good run because his defensive work is not bad - like Scannell. Roberts went because of his contract situation. I might have laid it on a bit...but I'd rather see an attacking full back than a defensive winger (or wide midfielder whatever you want to call him)..If we play 3 at the back..employ 2 wide attacking full backs we can have 2 up top and still room for 3 in central midfield...
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 31, 2015 19:14:48 GMT 1
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@reluctantnicko: James Vaughan to sign for Wigan tomorrow if he gets some of contract sorted at Huddersfield.
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Post by thomo on Aug 31, 2015 19:17:01 GMT 1
Sounds like Vaughan is waiting for us to pay him off a bit. Hope we don't blow too much of the budget making severance payments or even covering part of his wages at Wigan
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 19:19:08 GMT 1
I read it as that too. Cheeky beggar. Is there room in Wigan's sickbed for Vaughan and Holt?
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 31, 2015 19:20:08 GMT 1
He should be paying us, the fkn sicknote.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 31, 2015 19:21:50 GMT 1
Sounds like Vaughan is waiting for us to pay him off a bit. Hope we don't blow too much of the budget making severance payments or even covering part of his wages at Wigan And some on here whinge defending the sick note, disgrace IMO. Good riddance
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Post by mightyterrier on Aug 31, 2015 19:23:32 GMT 1
He's in a contract he's hardly likely to leave if it's gonna leave him out of pocket is he
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Post by Tez on Aug 31, 2015 19:23:27 GMT 1
Get rid and frees up the wage budget..
Cheeky fecker if he wants more brass. If we had that much sick off work we'd be sacked
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Post by specialun on Aug 31, 2015 19:23:50 GMT 1
Sounds like Vaughan is waiting for us to pay him off a bit. Hope we don't blow too much of the budget making severance payments or even covering part of his wages at Wigan I don't blame him - we'd be in league 1 if it wasn't for him. He should take advantage of the DFS half price sale / operation offload our best players! Hoyle wants him to go remember, not him who has asked to go - if Hoyle wants it so much then he should pay off Vaughan.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 31, 2015 19:25:54 GMT 1
He's in a contract he's hardly likely to leave if it's gonna leave him out of pocket is he Out of pocket ? He wants to get in real world mate. Work out his pay per goal over his 3 years here ? Good riddance,
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 31, 2015 19:25:56 GMT 1
He's in a contract he's hardly likely to leave if it's gonna leave him out of pocket is he 10K a week and a booming property portfolio, I doubt he'll ever be out of pocket.
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Post by impact on Aug 31, 2015 19:29:18 GMT 1
Get rid and fees up the wage budget.. Cheeky fecker if he wants more brass. If we had that much sick off work we'd be sacked Equally if our job caused us to be injured so much we'd sue.
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