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Post by billy2403 on Aug 17, 2015 13:33:23 GMT 1
The wage bill is for all staff at Town not just players
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 13:43:14 GMT 1
The wage bill is astounding. £13.5M would pay 112 people over £10,000 a month each. Your maths is also astounding.
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Aug 17, 2015 13:46:04 GMT 1
I dont mind players leaving, its frustrating and disappointing but its part of the game. Some of the players i mentioned might be Div1 players but i feel that most of the 1st team now are anyway. If Miller is a championship striker then i am Rene Van De Kerkhoff. He has had 38 Premiership appearances. And Ant and Dec are top class TV presenters....strange things occur! Zero goals for Man City...38 goals in 210 games in 10 years. Hardly prolific, lets hope his goal tally can get off the ground this season, unlike his feet
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 13:54:23 GMT 1
Do Antelopes wear Oti shoes, Rene?
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Post by lankystreak on Aug 17, 2015 14:00:41 GMT 1
The wage bill is astounding. £13.5M would pay 112 people over £10,000 a month each. Your maths is also astounding. His maths is spot on............
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 17, 2015 14:03:50 GMT 1
He has had 38 Premiership appearances. And Ant and Dec are top class TV presenters....strange things occur! Zero goals for Man City...38 goals in 210 games in 10 years. Hardly prolific, lets hope his goal tally can get off the ground this season, unlike his feet I like a big lad up front though and I think there is more to come. Those Bournemouth defenders are going to have some problems in the Premiership. I'm sure I saw Ishy turn and run away from their defence at their place last season. He was going in the right direction as well. Low down on my list of things to worry about.
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Post by fredcarno1 on Aug 17, 2015 14:03:47 GMT 1
Well the board are definately challenging Powell to get us "punching above our weight" that's for sure.
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Post by detox on Aug 17, 2015 14:05:00 GMT 1
I would think several of Towns' players are on £10,000 per week...
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Aug 17, 2015 14:05:24 GMT 1
Offer £2mill for him and Clibbins will shit his knickers and accept it. Quite why this man is having so much influence over things at Town is a mystery but a sign of the way things are going down there Quite how Clibbens gets the blame for everything on here is laughable, if you think he makes the final decision on transfers in and out, then it just shows your complete lack of insight of the club's dealings.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 14:05:48 GMT 1
Your maths is also astounding. His maths is spot on............ His written English is sufficiently vague to conceal it, but I would check my change should Marcus be at a shop counter.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 14:07:26 GMT 1
On another side note... Surely if Derby don't go up they're going to be hit massively by FFP? They'll have surely spent close to £16/£17m this year? QPR are supposed to be being "hit massively by FFP", so I don't suppose they're even remotely worried about it. Shambles.
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Aug 17, 2015 14:13:04 GMT 1
It's just funny that we have a 4 page thread on the academy, that it should be shut down because players can't progress through to the first team, then a massive uproar when any players are sold. Probably because the academy players won't be played and we'll get a Murphy, Whitehead or Edgar in to block the path.
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Post by jakeshan on Aug 17, 2015 14:16:03 GMT 1
They are all for sale...always were. The difference now is £2 million is not a lot of money unless you are skint! Not too long ago were were accepting £200k bids. The team has not been exactly brilliant with all these wanted and want-away "stars". Yes, its disappointing but Town will go on. Get the best price whilst teams are panicking. They are all replaceable, the guys in the wings are not considerably worse. Tronstad for Butts, Hammill/Charles for Scannell, Bojaj for Vaughan, Murphy for Smithies...it would be a relegation battle whatever/whoever. £2 Million not a lot of money. Try saving it and if you already have, make a donation to Town.
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Post by SaudiTerrier on Aug 17, 2015 14:25:06 GMT 1
The wage bill is astounding. £13.5M would pay 112 people over £10,000 a month each. Sure is and it's one of the smallest in the league. The club actually employ over 250 people, but that will include ticket office staff, club shop workers, academy coaches who will be on nowhere near that. That's why it is so daft to say, for example, Cranie, Whitehead and Davidson were only frees. In reality, between them they'll probably taking home over £1m from the club every year. Nonsense mate. Ipswich team only cost £10k I'll have you know.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Aug 17, 2015 14:31:43 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town @htafcdotcom 46 secs47 seconds ago Huddersfield, England CP on Jacob Butterfield rumours: "we have good players here, so there will always be rumours Poor lad he's not in the loop
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 14:31:55 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town @htafcdotcom 1m1 minute ago Huddersfield, England CP on Jacob Butterfield: "nobody - from the Chairman down - wants him to leave #htafc. He is absolutely key to what we do" (DTS)
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Post by htfcfcfc on Aug 17, 2015 14:37:52 GMT 1
He has had 38 Premiership appearances. And Ant and Dec are top class TV presenters....strange things occur! Zero goals for Man City...38 goals in 210 games in 10 years. Hardly prolific, lets hope his goal tally can get off the ground this season, unlike his feet 1 every 2 games record for a struggling Yeovil side a couple of seasons ago. Considering thats where we're predicted to be hovering come May seems like a useful guy to have around
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Post by 3Pipe on Aug 17, 2015 14:38:09 GMT 1
Good to hear something from the club, at least.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 14:39:08 GMT 1
Yes Dean has been brilliant for us but this current policy will only undo all the good work he has done for the club.
If we kept the same squad as last season and made a few notable additions I think we could have really made a push for the top 10, if not the playoffs this year. One season is all it takes, one big push and if it doesn't work out,fine,sell those who need to be sold. Atleast we'd have had a really good go at it and not been happy to just linger in the lower echelons of the league, which I'm afraid, does seem to be the case.
League One awaits in the near future.
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Post by dugnet on Aug 17, 2015 14:40:39 GMT 1
Huddersfield Town @htafcdotcom 1m1 minute ago Huddersfield, England CP on Jacob Butterfield: "nobody - from the Chairman down - wants him to leave #htafc. He is absolutely key to what we do" (DTS) Sorry to be cynical but that's just added 25% to his asking price - if his agent wants him to go, he will but at the price the club will accept. Wanting him to leave and accepting he will are two different things
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 14:41:43 GMT 1
On another side note... Surely if Derby don't go up they're going to be hit massively by FFP? They'll have surely spent close to £16/£17m this year? QPR are supposed to be being "hit massively by FFP", so I don't suppose they're even remotely worried about it. Shambles. The whole system is farcical. Forget these warnings/fines etc. Start hitting the guilty clubs with large point deductions and proper transfer embargos where they can't sign anyone full stop. The system they have currently with Forest etc is ridiculous, can't sign anyone permanently but can loan players on contracts up to £10/15k a week, utterly brainless policy.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 14:41:51 GMT 1
Some interesting stuff in there, cheers.
The first thing I noticed was that Total Football Expenditure was £12.6M. This figure includes all sorts of stuff from player wages, bonuses, employment tax, agents fees, travel, food, sports science, medical, analytics, recruitment, scouting, insurance, training, non playing football staff and coaches.
Later on the accounts list "Staff Costs" including wages, pensions and social security costs at £13.3M, of which £11.7M was staff costs. If "staff costs" are included in the Total Football Expenditure, that only leaves £0.9M to cover employment tax, agents fees, food, sports science, medical, analytics, recruitment, scouting, insurance and training. That didn't make sense to me, maybe I'm misunderstanding it.
Also, non-playing staff rose from 168 to 212 over the previous year. That's quite an increase, I wonder where that came from? Maybe Canalside?
Cost of sales was £17M, of which only £12.6M was due to total football expenditure. I wonder what the extra £4.4M entailed, when you look at the list already included in total football expenditure, including non-playing staff wages? Also worthy to note a figure of £2.5M added on top of the cost of sales for "Administrative Expenses".
Without the profit on player sales of £1.5M, the club would have made a loss of over £9M. Eeek!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 14:43:48 GMT 1
The wage bill is astounding. £13.5M would pay 112 people over £10,000 a month each. Your maths is also astounding. 10,000 X 112 = 1,120,000 X 12 = £13,440,000. Which bit is supposed to be wrong?
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Aug 17, 2015 14:49:43 GMT 1
West Yorkshire Sport @wysdaily 8 mins8 minutes ago Manager Chris Powell says Jacob Butterfield is integral to the club's plans and that any bid for him will not be entertained. The line is drawn
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Post by rocky on Aug 17, 2015 14:50:52 GMT 1
Who said anything about this message board? I certainly didn't! I know lots & lots of Town fans. After every home game I have a few beers in town & believe you me, it's not just a 'few Town fans'. People are like sheep, going on & on about what is wrong at Town & never thinking for a moment about the strides forward we've made under Hoyle. I don't know a single town fan who doesn't appreciate the giant strides forward under the stewardship of our chairman. Each and every town fan should thank their lucky stars that we are where we are, however, we can't keep looking backwards and dwelling on the past. Right now the future has a big question mark and that is where the doom mongering has come from. Think we need to agree to disagree. The 'doom mongering' was at full pace all the way throughout last season, despite it being our 3rd highest finish in the last 45 years. Yes, I know that's 'looking in the past', but I do so to try & highlight the success (relatively speaking for Town!) that last season was.
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Post by ritchie on Aug 17, 2015 14:50:56 GMT 1
Problem is i dont see a lot that would make butts want to stay......and I'm not even trying to be negative here..just realistic
The draw of us as a club is basically that players will do well here then get a move..realistically there isnt much else but that. Were not massive payers, our ambitions are midtable and we sell our best players so it will be difficult to build any sort of team with ambitions of much more than that (any time soon at least).
The reason he came here has probably been fulfilled...he's got games and therefore started attracting interest. If derby do want him he'll double his wages, be competing at the top of the league and in front of much bigger crowds.
IF they want him I cant see him not going tbh. Hope Im wrong.
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Post by ColchTerrier on Aug 17, 2015 14:52:55 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 14:56:04 GMT 1
Problem is i dont see a lot that would make butts want to stay......and I'm not even trying to be negative here..just realistic The draw of us as a club is basically that players will do well here then get a move..realistically there isnt much else but that. Were not massive payers, our ambitions are midtable and we sell our best players so it will be difficult to build any sort of team with ambitions of much more than that (any time soon at least). The reason he came here has probably been fulfilled...he's got games and therefore started attracting interest. If derby do want him he'll double his wages, be competing at the top of the league and in front of much bigger crowds. IF they want him I cant see him not going tbh. Hope Im wrong. every player has his price. just keep your fingers crossed.
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Post by ritchie on Aug 17, 2015 14:56:46 GMT 1
"Hopefully we can sign him I would take him for less than £1.5 million which probably would be possible"
OK then duck.
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Post by captainblack on Aug 17, 2015 14:57:58 GMT 1
West Yorkshire Sport @wysdaily 8 mins8 minutes ago Manager Chris Powell says Jacob Butterfield is integral to the club's plans and that any bid for him will not be entertained. The line is drawn Butterfield sold for £4.0M .
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