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Post by antipodeanterrier on Oct 7, 2016 10:02:58 GMT 1
"Much maligned"? By those who don't watch it, or watch one game and say"it's not as good as Barca or Man City, Chelsea etc". Those who play in it rate it very well eg Neil Kilkenny rates the style of play highly(er) in comparison to England. City's new signing Jacobson says from what he's seen its as good if not better than Denmark. The Danes don't consider their league much maligned. Thomas Sorenson echoes that, as did Damian Duff. Robert Koren was a good premier league player who couldn't cut it in the A-League. lost his (attacking mid!) Spot to.... Mooy  Sorry for the Aussie talk in here Yeah I don't know what he's on about. I've never heard anyone malign it. At least not in the last 5 years or so. Some of the teams are absolutely stacked these days. Melbourne Victorys squad would have to be almost as good as the national team...and only recently beat athletico and juve. If anything the problem is the level is too high and not enough young players get a crack. Guys like pasquali (who wrecked athletico and juve) will struggle to get on the park. |
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Post by antipodeanterrier on Oct 7, 2016 10:28:33 GMT 1
After all the talk on here I'm really looking forward to watching the A League when I next get chance. Sounds like it's fast becoming the pinnacle of football talent. Maybe if Mooy plays his cards right he could earn himself a move back there!! To all those who ridiculed my "much maligned".....I was talking about comments I'd read on this forum, and here's a perfect example of what I was talking about.... |
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Post by AndySk on Oct 7, 2016 10:50:13 GMT 1
He's good but he's no Barry Horne
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 7, 2016 12:07:11 GMT 1
He wasn't brought through by Town like Clayts, Butts etc. Is Australua near Bolton Jeez. I know full well Mooy is Australian and wasn't brought through by Town, do you think I'm daft or been living underground 😆 There was a comment comparing Australia bringing through Mooy to who we had brought through. I therefore suggested Marsden was homegrown (although turned out to be wrong there!). I then asked the last question, because I thought you may not perceive me as described above and as we know he played over in the UK when he was younger (i.e. I thought you may have been saying Mooy learnt his trade here). Anyway.....😆 You are clearly not daft - so it must be underground Would any of those listed midfielders get in our current starting midfield? To keep the current balance I'm not sure they would. PS I only remembered at the last minute that Mooy was nurtured at Bolton and in Scotland. Wonder why he wasn't an instant success? |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Oct 7, 2016 12:35:08 GMT 1
Jeez. I know full well Mooy is Australian and wasn't brought through by Town, do you think I'm daft or been living underground 😆 There was a comment comparing Australia bringing through Mooy to who we had brought through. I therefore suggested Marsden was homegrown (although turned out to be wrong there!). I then asked the last question, because I thought you may not perceive me as described above and as we know he played over in the UK when he was younger (i.e. I thought you may have been saying Mooy learnt his trade here). Anyway.....😆 You are clearly not daft - so it must be underground Would any of those listed midfielders get in our current starting midfield? To keep the current balance I'm not sure they would. PS I only remembered at the last minute that Mooy was nurtured at Bolton and in Scotland. Wonder why he wasn't an instant success? I suspect Mooy will prove to be the best of the bunch, it's already my inclination. Saying that, if you only based it on one season of Gorre, you may think it's him. All the others are clearly more gifted footballers than Hogg, but they're not really comparable and as such not likely a better partner for Mooy. Barry Horne on the other hand. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 7, 2016 12:56:15 GMT 1
Suspect you are right about Mooy. Dean Gorre had flashes of brilliance but I think he used to disappear a lot; or to put it another way Mooy seems to influence the game for longer stretches.
Horne in his prime was probably better than Hogg, then again I think we are just seeing the start of Hogg's prime - for us.
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Post by ozterrier on Oct 7, 2016 13:12:55 GMT 1
PS I only remembered at the last minute that Mooy was nurtured at Bolton and in Scotland. Wonder why he wasn't an instant success? His nurturing began even before that. Mooy went through a school programme with a legendary record of producing athletes. Harry Kewell, Michael Clarke, Usman Khawaja, Israel Folau, Jarryd Hayne to name just a few. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Oct 7, 2016 13:16:10 GMT 1
PS I only remembered at the last minute that Mooy was nurtured at Bolton and in Scotland. Wonder why he wasn't an instant success? His nurturing began even before that. Mooy went through a school programme with a legendary record of producing athletes. Harry Kewell, Michael Clarke, Usman Khawaja, Israel Folau, Jarryd Hayne to name just a few. Just a late developer then - if he didn't make it in Bolton/Scotland? |
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Post by ozterrier on Oct 7, 2016 13:41:55 GMT 1
His nurturing began even before that. Mooy went through a school programme with a legendary record of producing athletes. Harry Kewell, Michael Clarke, Usman Khawaja, Israel Folau, Jarryd Hayne to name just a few. Just a late developer then - if he didn't make it in Bolton/Scotland? Yeah perhaps a bit late - although he was always highly rated amongst the Australian football fraternity. EDIT: Not sure I'd particularly agree he didn't 'make it' before. He was 20 when he left Bolton and they were in the Premiership back then. He went to St Mirren and did just fine there I believe. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Oct 7, 2016 17:01:47 GMT 1
Hes good but not as skilfull as Clayts.
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Post by Hammy (still in Golcar) on Oct 7, 2016 17:12:24 GMT 1
Hes good but not as skilfull as Clayts. Give it a rest now Nick. Adam Clayton is not as good as Mooy. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Oct 7, 2016 20:06:27 GMT 1
Hes good but not as skilfull as Clayts. Give it a rest now Nick. Adam Clayton is not as good as Mooy. Clayton has tidier footwork; he was always brilliant at receiving the ball in tight positions and escaping. However, I can't think of any other area I'd have him ahead of Mooy. I'd suggest Mooy's passing/vision is way ahead of Clayt's. Most other qualities are probably fairly similar. That's not a criticism of Clayton, who was great and I was gutted to see leave, rather Mooy is a bloody good player. |
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Post by thesecondhalf on Oct 7, 2016 20:06:34 GMT 1
Hes good but not as skilfull as Clayts. Clayton or Mooy? Let me think 🤔 Mooy anyway of the week |
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Post by wanderer on Oct 8, 2016 0:19:01 GMT 1
Wow. Some exceptionally cringeworthy posts in this thread. I am a massive supporter of the A LEAGUE but seriously to say it's comparable to the championship is just wrong. The League kicks off tonight so if anyone is interested judge for yourself. Getting back to Mooy. He is a very good player and his spell here will determine how far he progresses. With some luck you get promoted and he extends his stay. |
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Post by wanderer on Oct 8, 2016 0:30:57 GMT 1
Wow. Some exceptionally cringeworthy posts in this thread. I am a massive supporter of the A LEAGUE but seriously to say it's comparable to the championship is just wrong. The League kicks off tonight so if anyone is interested judge for yourself. Getting back to Mooy. He is a very good player and his spell here will determine how far he progresses. With some luck you get promoted and he extends his stay. the A-league is better quality then the Championship i watch both religiously, the CS is more physically demanding but the A-league has better coaches and play better football like it or not. watch the sydney derby tonight, 70,000-80,000 people with one of the best atmopheres in world football way better then anything the CS has ever experienced even the PL has never experienced anything like it. its the truth |
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Post by bobtheslob on Oct 8, 2016 1:02:12 GMT 1
Wow. Some exceptionally cringeworthy posts in this thread. I am a massive supporter of the A LEAGUE but seriously to say it's comparable to the championship is just wrong. The League kicks off tonight so if anyone is interested judge for yourself. Getting back to Mooy. He is a very good player and his spell here will determine how far he progresses. With some luck you get promoted and he extends his stay. the A-league is better quality then the Championship i watch both religiously, the CS is more physically demanding but the A-league has better coaches and play better football like it or not. watch the sydney derby tonight, 70,000-80,000 people with one of the best atmopheres in world football way better then anything the CS has ever experienced even the PL has never experienced anything like it. its the truth C'mon, let's be polite. The good people of Huddersfield don't want to talk about the A-league any more than you'd like to discuss the Djibouti Premier League. Just quickly though, I don't think there's any doubt that the Championship is a higher standard. The consensus among the more generous A-league fans seems to be that it's somewhere between League 1 and the Championship (with Central Coast below in a tier of its own). Yes, the derby should have a good atmosphere. Easily the best atmosphere in Australian sport, but let's enjoy it without denigrating other competitions. Still got a way to go to match the atmosphere in Dortmund (or even Hammarby) too. |
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Post by royrace on Oct 8, 2016 1:18:44 GMT 1
Hes good but not as skilfull as Clayts. Give it a rest now Nick. Adam Clayton is not as good as Mooy. True. I'm a massive Clayton fan but Mooy is a different level entirely and I get the impression there's even more to come. Best midfielder I've ever seen play for town is Mooy, Clayton was up there but Mooy is a different level. As others have said his influence in every game has been streets ahead of Clayton before you even start looking at the number of passes, individual skill etc. I'm guessing he won't get a game at City but he wouldn't look out of place imo. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 8, 2016 1:28:50 GMT 1
Wow. Some exceptionally cringeworthy posts in this thread. I am a massive supporter of the A LEAGUE but seriously to say it's comparable to the championship is just wrong. The League kicks off tonight so if anyone is interested judge for yourself. Getting back to Mooy. He is a very good player and his spell here will determine how far he progresses. With some luck you get promoted and he extends his stay. the A-league is better quality then the Championship i watch both religiously, the CS is more physically demanding but the A-league has better coaches and play better football like it or not. watch the sydney derby tonight, 70,000-80,000 people with one of the best atmopheres in world football way better then anything the CS has ever experienced even the PL has never experienced anything like it. its the truth It's not the truth. How on earth could anything so subjective ever be considered the truth you utter fool? Do you live in Australia? Because if you do then presumably you get one championship game per week. That's 8.3% of the total matches. On TV. Broadcast after midnight eastern time. Nowhere near enough to make an informed decision on the quality of the league. At the start of the season there were two champions league winning coaches in the league, now there is only one as the other has been fired. What pedigree do A League coaches have? The Championship is perhaps the most competitive league in the world and most teams in the top half play a high pressing game that I'd guess is far more intense than anything in the A-League, if only due to the climate. I admire your pride in your league but you express it poorly. I assume it has improved since I was in Australia 10 years ago, because then I met two English lads that got taken on as squad players at A League clubs off the back of kick abouts when they were travelling, and one of them was playing at left back when I was there. They didn't even play semi-pro in England. And if you really think the atmosphere in the A-League would be better than any Championahip play-off or big derby in the Premier League then please post me whatever you're smoking. Atmosphere at a match isn't measured solely by the noise in the stands, it is a combination of noise and the sense of occasion. Hair standing on the back of your neck doesn't translate to a TV audience. You think anything in the history of Australian football has ever matched Liverpool 4 Newcastle 3, or Arsenal 2 Manchester United 4 when Keane squared up to Viera in the tunnel? Arsenal wining 2-0 at Liverpool to win the title in 1989? Get a grip. |
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Post by bobtheslob on Oct 8, 2016 2:10:49 GMT 1
the A-league is better quality then the Championship i watch both religiously, the CS is more physically demanding but the A-league has better coaches and play better football like it or not. watch the sydney derby tonight, 70,000-80,000 people with one of the best atmopheres in world football way better then anything the CS has ever experienced even the PL has never experienced anything like it. its the truth It's not the truth. How on earth could anything so subjective ever be considered the truth you utter fool? Do you live in Australia? Because if you do then presumably you get one championship game per week. That's 8.3% of the total matches. On TV. Broadcast after midnight eastern time. Nowhere near enough to make an informed decision on the quality of the league. At the start of the season there were two champions league winning coaches in the league, now there is only one as the other has been fired. What pedigree do A League coaches have? The Championship is perhaps the most competitive league in the world and most teams in the top half play a high pressing game that I'd guess is far more intense than anything in the A-League, if only due to the climate. I admire your pride in your league but you express it poorly. I assume it has improved since I was in Australia 10 years ago, because then I met two English lads that got taken on as squad players at A League clubs off the back of kick abouts when they were travelling, and one of them was playing at left back when I was there. They didn't even play semi-pro in England.
And if you really think the atmosphere in the A-League would be better than any Championahip play-off or big derby in the Premier League then please post me whatever you're smoking. Atmosphere at a match isn't measured solely by the noise in the stands, it is a combination of noise and the sense of occasion. Hair standing on the back of your neck doesn't translate to a TV audience. You think anything in the history of Australian football has ever matched Liverpool 4 Newcastle 3, or Arsenal 2 Manchester United 4 when Keane squared up to Viera in the tunnel? Arsenal wining 2-0 at Liverpool to win the title in 1989? Get a grip. I don't want to sidetrack this thread any more, but your story doesn't check out. Based on a quick search, the only two English left-backs in the A-League in 2005 or 2006 were Ronnie Bull (who'd played 100+ professional matches at that stage) and Dean Gordon (200+ matches for Crystal Palace, 63 for Middlesbrough and 35 for Coventry City). That's not to say the standard was great. The league was only formed 10 years ago, and was initially almost as amateurish as you suggest (google Steve McMahon Jr if interested!). It's improved immensely since then though. |
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Post by stefcep on Oct 8, 2016 5:53:58 GMT 1
Just a late developer then - if he didn't make it in Bolton/Scotland? Yeah perhaps a bit late - although he was always highly rated amongst the Australian football fraternity. EDIT: Not sure I'd particularly agree he didn't 'make it' before. He was 20 when he left Bolton and they were in the Premiership back then. He went to St Mirren and did just fine there I believe.Mooy was played as a winger at St Mirren. He himself admitted he was no fast enough for that, and always wanted to play as an attacking midfielder/number 10. |
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Post by stefcep on Oct 8, 2016 6:05:53 GMT 1
the A-league is better quality then the Championship i watch both religiously, the CS is more physically demanding but the A-league has better coaches and play better football like it or not. watch the sydney derby tonight, 70,000-80,000 people with one of the best atmopheres in world football way better then anything the CS has ever experienced even the PL has never experienced anything like it. its the truth It's not the truth. How on earth could anything so subjective ever be considered the truth you utter fool? Do you live in Australia? Because if you do then presumably you get one championship game per week. That's 8.3% of the total matches. On TV. Broadcast after midnight eastern time. Nowhere near enough to make an informed decision on the quality of the league. At the start of the season there were two champions league winning coaches in the league, now there is only one as the other has been fired. What pedigree do A League coaches have? The Championship is perhaps the most competitive league in the world and most teams in the top half play a high pressing game that I'd guess is far more intense than anything in the A-League, if only due to the climate. I admire your pride in your league but you express it poorly. I assume it has improved since I was in Australia 10 years ago, because then I met two English lads that got taken on as squad players at A League clubs off the back of kick abouts when they were travelling, and one of them was playing at left back when I was there. They didn't even play semi-pro in England. And if you really think the atmosphere in the A-League would be better than any Championahip play-off or big derby in the Premier League then please post me whatever you're smoking. Atmosphere at a match isn't measured solely by the noise in the stands, it is a combination of noise and the sense of occasion. Hair standing on the back of your neck doesn't translate to a TV audience. You think anything in the history of Australian football has ever matched Liverpool 4 Newcastle 3, or Arsenal 2 Manchester United 4 when Keane squared up to Viera in the tunnel? Arsenal wining 2-0 at Liverpool to win the title in 1989? Get a grip. The best A-league teams are at best low-mid Championship standard. The more frequent games per season in the Championship would kill most players though. In terms of the coaching, Australia is yet to make a mark internationally-although we are the Asian Champions, lead by a local coach that coached back- back Championships, then gutted and re-uilt National Team for the 2014 WC, and with little preparation and very inexperienced team pushed Netherlands ( then WC runners-up) and Chile (Sth American Champions) at the WC in 2014. A good showing in Russia could see him break into Europe. Popovic aslo won the Asian champions League with a player budget a fraction of the opposition. We now also have a formal national coaching accreditation system, a national football player curriculum as well. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Oct 8, 2016 8:00:28 GMT 1
Hes good but not as skilfull as Clayts. Give it a rest now Nick. Adam Clayton is not as good as Mooy. Its all about opinions mark , i really rate mooooy But Clayts is excellent too. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 8, 2016 8:07:54 GMT 1
It's not the truth. How on earth could anything so subjective ever be considered the truth you utter fool? Do you live in Australia? Because if you do then presumably you get one championship game per week. That's 8.3% of the total matches. On TV. Broadcast after midnight eastern time. Nowhere near enough to make an informed decision on the quality of the league. At the start of the season there were two champions league winning coaches in the league, now there is only one as the other has been fired. What pedigree do A League coaches have? The Championship is perhaps the most competitive league in the world and most teams in the top half play a high pressing game that I'd guess is far more intense than anything in the A-League, if only due to the climate. I admire your pride in your league but you express it poorly. I assume it has improved since I was in Australia 10 years ago, because then I met two English lads that got taken on as squad players at A League clubs off the back of kick abouts when they were travelling, and one of them was playing at left back when I was there. They didn't even play semi-pro in England.
And if you really think the atmosphere in the A-League would be better than any Championahip play-off or big derby in the Premier League then please post me whatever you're smoking. Atmosphere at a match isn't measured solely by the noise in the stands, it is a combination of noise and the sense of occasion. Hair standing on the back of your neck doesn't translate to a TV audience. You think anything in the history of Australian football has ever matched Liverpool 4 Newcastle 3, or Arsenal 2 Manchester United 4 when Keane squared up to Viera in the tunnel? Arsenal wining 2-0 at Liverpool to win the title in 1989? Get a grip. I don't want to sidetrack this thread any more, but your story doesn't check out. Based on a quick search, the only two English left-backs in the A-League in 2005 or 2006 were Ronnie Bull (who'd played 100+ professional matches at that stage) and Dean Gordon (200+ matches for Crystal Palace, 63 for Middlesbrough and 35 for Coventry City). That's not to say the standard was great. The league was only formed 10 years ago, and was initially almost as amateurish as you suggest (google Steve McMahon Jr if interested!). It's improved immensely since then though. I was there in 2006/7. It is possible that the guy could have been talking shite, I believe one or two people that I met travelling may have embellished a few tales about themselves  |
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Post by Hammy (still in Golcar) on Oct 8, 2016 8:11:40 GMT 1
Give it a rest now Nick. Adam Clayton is not as good as Mooy. Its all about opinions mark , i really rate mooooy But Clayts is excellent too. Clayton was my favourite player when he was here, by far, I thought he was very good, but Mooy is different class. The amount of time he creates for himself and the ease he seems to go about the job in hand is phenomenal. |
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Oct 8, 2016 8:27:44 GMT 1
It's not the truth. How on earth could anything so subjective ever be considered the truth you utter fool? Do you live in Australia? Because if you do then presumably you get one championship game per week. That's 8.3% of the total matches. On TV. Broadcast after midnight eastern time. Nowhere near enough to make an informed decision on the quality of the league. At the start of the season there were two champions league winning coaches in the league, now there is only one as the other has been fired. What pedigree do A League coaches have? The Championship is perhaps the most competitive league in the world and most teams in the top half play a high pressing game that I'd guess is far more intense than anything in the A-League, if only due to the climate. I admire your pride in your league but you express it poorly. I assume it has improved since I was in Australia 10 years ago, because then I met two English lads that got taken on as squad players at A League clubs off the back of kick abouts when they were travelling, and one of them was playing at left back when I was there. They didn't even play semi-pro in England. And if you really think the atmosphere in the A-League would be better than any Championahip play-off or big derby in the Premier League then please post me whatever you're smoking. Atmosphere at a match isn't measured solely by the noise in the stands, it is a combination of noise and the sense of occasion. Hair standing on the back of your neck doesn't translate to a TV audience. You think anything in the history of Australian football has ever matched Liverpool 4 Newcastle 3, or Arsenal 2 Manchester United 4 when Keane squared up to Viera in the tunnel? Arsenal wining 2-0 at Liverpool to win the title in 1989? Get a grip. The best A-league teams are at best low-mid Championship standard. The more frequent games per season in the Championship would kill most players though. In terms of the coaching, Australia is yet to make a mark internationally-although we are the Asian Champions, lead by a local coach that coached back- back Championships, then gutted and re-uilt National Team for the 2014 WC, and with little preparation and very inexperienced team pushed Netherlands ( then WC runners-up) and Chile (Sth American Champions) at the WC in 2014. A good showing in Russia could see him break into Europe. Popovic aslo won the Asian champions League with a player budget a fraction of the opposition. We now also have a formal national coaching accreditation system, a national football player curriculum as well. Postecoglou seems to be doing a very good job with the national team, but he's not coaching in the A League is he? My point was that the other guy blithely said that the managers in the A League are better than in the championship, which just seems like unsubstantiated bollocks. They might be or they might not be but how can you prove it? I'd highly doubt there's anyone in the A League that's anywhere near as good as Wagner though and I'd be surprised if Postecoglou is better too, although he's achieved more. And it doesn't really matter as we're both happy with each coach. If he'd said that the A League produces better coaches and managers than the Championship then he may have a point. We have the talent in the UK across all sports but the coaching and management is woeful. Just look at the transformations that Bayliss and Eddie Jones have made with our cricket and union teams. Thanks for that by the way! I don't particularly care for Union but I love cricket, possibly even more than football these days, and the team is a joy to watch at the minute. The performance against Bangladesh yesterday was terrific. I'm hoping to get out to Sydney for the Ashes next year, a good friend lives over there and I didn't get to see any matches when I was there in 2006. Dodged a bullet then!! I think the shit coaching is down to the strong anti-intellectualism across society, which is a reaction to how class-ridden it is. Most footballers are dumb as a bunch of rocks too. |
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Post by lurker1980 on Oct 8, 2016 11:31:02 GMT 1
been lurking awhile now since Mooy joined you guys and the things being said in this thread have kinda made me shake my head. I'm someone who didn't grow up with football but grew into it as I got older. Probably watch on average 40-60 games a month across most leagues throughout the world.
1. The A-league is a salary capped league - $2.6 mil AUD p/a (1.5 mil pounds)with exceptions for 3 marquee players. This affects overall depth of every squad in this league. There are guys in squads that have no business being at the highest level in this kind of professional league. From reports Burton might have the lowest payroll but even then they'd struggle to get their squad in under the cap
2. The talent is there though the top 5-6 players from most teams in each squad in the a-league would be solid players in the championship, however if anyone wants to say why aren't they playing there then there are various issues such as work permits and the fact they could earn the same without too much trouble.
3. I would honestly say the coaching is better in aus for the top 1/2dozen teams in particular simply for the fact that it is a salary capped league and granted quite a few of them plied their trade in the championship (Popovic, Muscat even have a 300+game former Barcelona player managing) - you have to do more with less. When you have to take on teams with European champions league quality players in the Asian continental competition (Chinese Super league teams for example do not have a salary cap and widely regarded as the some of the richest clubs in world football)and generally hold your own is no small feat.
4. The championship is different from 10 years ago as well as the a-league. There is still some absolute dross being played by huge clubs in the championship (QPR and Derby has been most notable for me this season) and there are some deadset dreadful teams in the a league (Central Coast who might even struggle in league 2)but generally the games have changed. The gap isn't as far as you would think in a one off match between an aleague team and most championship teams but over the course of 40+ games the lack of depth will be an issue
TL:DR back to lurking
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Post by Headless Chicken on Oct 8, 2016 11:50:57 GMT 1
been lurking awhile now since Mooy joined you guys and the things being said in this thread have kinda made me shake my head. I'm someone who didn't grow up with football but grew into it as I got older. Probably watch on average 40-60 games a month across most leagues throughout the world. 1. The A-league is a salary capped league - $2.6 mil AUD p/a (1.5 mil pounds)with exceptions for 3 marquee players. This affects overall depth of every squad in this league. There are guys in squads that have no business being at the highest level in this kind of professional league. From reports Burton might have the lowest payroll but even then they'd struggle to get their squad in under the cap 2. The talent is there though the top 5-6 players from most teams in each squad in the a-league would be solid players in the championship, however if anyone wants to say why aren't they playing there then there are various issues such as work permits and the fact they could earn the same without too much trouble. 3. I would honestly say the coaching is better in aus for the top 1/2dozen teams in particular simply for the fact that it is a salary capped league and granted quite a few of them plied their trade in the championship (Popovic, Muscat even have a 300+game former Barcelona player managing) - you have to do more with less. When you have to take on teams with European champions league quality players in the Asian continental competition (Chinese Super league teams for example do not have a salary cap and widely regarded as the some of the richest clubs in world football)and generally hold your own is no small feat. 4. The championship is different from 10 years ago as well as the a-league. There is still some absolute dross being played by huge clubs in the championship (QPR and Derby has been most notable for me this season) and there are some deadset dreadful teams in the a league (Central Coast who might even struggle in league 2)but generally the games have changed. The gap isn't as far as you would think in a one off match between an aleague team and most championship teams but over the course of 40+ games the lack of depth will be an issue TL:DR back to lurking There's probably only one UK fan that has been damning about the A League, most acknowledge we know little to nothing about it and it's pretty hard to compare regardless. |
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Post by AndySk on Oct 8, 2016 12:08:58 GMT 1
A lot of talk about someone who's been our 3rd or 4th best player so far
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Post by wtd on Oct 8, 2016 12:56:38 GMT 1
A lot of talk about someone who's been our 3rd or 4th best player so far I'm struggling to put a possible three above him. Mooy, Kachunga and VLP for me, so far (with honourable mentions to nearly everyone else!)... but none above him. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Oct 8, 2016 12:59:44 GMT 1
Schindler above f for me imho , without him we would not be top.
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