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Post by yanfan on Jun 1, 2017 11:51:41 GMT 1
Dean Hoyle has already publicly stated that we will not be spending large amounts of money on players and wages.He said it will be done the Yorkshire way ie frugally.I can live with that! He's done alright by us so far.I'd rather have a decent cheap player who plays his heart out for the club week in week out than a Prima Donna on massive wages who struts around and doesn't give a shit about the club.I trust Deano and Wagner implicitly.
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Post by melbguy on Jun 1, 2017 12:04:37 GMT 1
Didn't they transfer him from Melbourne because there were rumblings from one of the other Oz clubs to take him? There are no domestic transfer fees in the A-League, so it was a way of protecting their asset and a way of moving cash from City to Melbourne in a manner that is allowed. Mooy is just a pawn. No. That's right, City found a loophole and Manchester club bought players from the A League and loaned them to their Melbourne club to get around it. Mooy's sale at that price will nearly cover the whole investment that CFG made in Melbourne, including facility upgrades. It also helps Manchester City with some cash and FFP, it also raises the profile of Melbourne City if Aussie players see them as a proven stepping stone into Europe and will sign for them rather than other clubs. |
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Post by aideybabes on Jun 1, 2017 12:10:29 GMT 1
Dean Hoyle has already publicly stated that we will not be spending large amounts of money on players and wages.He said it will be done the Yorkshire way ie frugally.I can live with that! He's done alright by us so far.I'd rather have a decent cheap player who plays his heart out for the club week in week out than a Prima Donna on massive wages who struts around and doesn't give a shit about the club.I trust Deano and Wagner implicitly. That's all well and good doing it the Yorkshire way however we actually want a chance of staying up. The club will do what they see fit but we need to give us a realistic chance of us being able to stay up. We must invest in decent players, I'm not saying we need to go wild but we will need to part with large sums of money otherwise it's back down the football league we go. |
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Post by htafc on Jun 1, 2017 12:19:28 GMT 1
Dean Hoyle has already publicly stated that we will not be spending large amounts of money on players and wages.He said it will be done the Yorkshire way ie frugally.I can live with that! He's done alright by us so far.I'd rather have a decent cheap player who plays his heart out for the club week in week out than a Prima Donna on massive wages who struts around and doesn't give a shit about the club.I trust Deano and Wagner implicitly. Deano has got to sign Mooy |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 12:27:13 GMT 1
Dean Hoyle has already publicly stated that we will not be spending large amounts of money on players and wages.He said it will be done the Yorkshire way ie frugally.I can live with that! He's done alright by us so far.I'd rather have a decent cheap player who plays his heart out for the club week in week out than a Prima Donna on massive wages who struts around and doesn't give a shit about the club.I trust Deano and Wagner implicitly. That's all well and good doing it the Yorkshire way however we actually want a chance of staying up. The club will do what they see fit but we need to give us a realistic chance of us being able to stay up. We must invest in decent players, I'm not saying we need to go wild but we will need to part with large sums of money otherwise it's back down the football league we go. I personally don't want to see us with a £60 million wage bill like Bournemouth Utterly ridiculous |
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Post by aideybabes on Jun 1, 2017 12:28:45 GMT 1
That's all well and good doing it the Yorkshire way however we actually want a chance of staying up. The club will do what they see fit but we need to give us a realistic chance of us being able to stay up. We must invest in decent players, I'm not saying we need to go wild but we will need to part with large sums of money otherwise it's back down the football league we go. I personally don't want to see us with a £60 million wage bill like Bournemouth Utterly ridiculous I've literally just read that and flicked back onto here. I don't either but it just shows you what clubs need to spend or should i say are spending to maintain PL status. |
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Post by detox on Jun 1, 2017 12:44:32 GMT 1
£40k pw is approx £2m pa, we have £97m pa coming in from outside sources to add to our sponsorship, gate money and commercial stuff. I hope Town don't fall into the same trap as 1970/72 and try and do it on the cheap. How much to bring the ground to skysports standards? Am sure dean would want to take some of the money back out for him self? Do we want to buy giants share of the ground? (I don't think we should do anything with ground unless we stay up, apart from pitch) 10mill max i think we should put on him, 8m at most for price? Its a hard balance most teams fail to achieve. 100m does not go far if you get carried away (and when other teams know you need to buy fast). I don't think HTAFC should spend anything directly on stadium upgrades, that's the domain of KSDL, they manage the stadium and charge users for it. If £10m is needed to upgrade then KSDL will have to borrow that money and recharge it through the rental agreement over the next 10-20 years. If KSDL say they cannot do this then HTAFC should insist that ownership is passed to those that can afford it and KSDL can then wind up and we'll save £m's in payroll and expenses. I'm certain that Kirklees won't have any money so there's no help there. If Town take over the stadium they can scrap the HDOne folly and get on with developing the site that will benefit the football club ie a megastore, a fans club/bar and many other money making projects which will see cash flowing into the football club . |
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jun 1, 2017 12:48:54 GMT 1
That's all well and good doing it the Yorkshire way however we actually want a chance of staying up. The club will do what they see fit but we need to give us a realistic chance of us being able to stay up. We must invest in decent players, I'm not saying we need to go wild but we will need to part with large sums of money otherwise it's back down the football league we go. I personally don't want to see us with a £60 million wage bill like Bournemouth Utterly ridiculous It is 68% of their turnover... Considering that players are the main equity of a football team is it that ridiculous? (I know it's ridiculous but is it that disproportionate) What was OUR turnover and wages for 15/16? I would apply the same formulas as we have this year. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 1, 2017 12:49:45 GMT 1
How much to bring the ground to skysports standards? Am sure dean would want to take some of the money back out for him self? Do we want to buy giants share of the ground? (I don't think we should do anything with ground unless we stay up, apart from pitch) 10mill max i think we should put on him, 8m at most for price? Its a hard balance most teams fail to achieve. 100m does not go far if you get carried away (and when other teams know you need to buy fast). I don't think HTAFC should spend anything directly on stadium upgrades, that's the domain of KSDL, they manage the stadium and charge users for it. If £10m is needed to upgrade then KSDL will have to borrow that money and recharge it through the rental agreement over the next 10-20 years. If KSDL say they cannot do this then HTAFC should insist that ownership is passed to those that can afford it and KSDL can then wind up and we'll save £m's in payroll and expenses. I'm certain that Kirklees won't have any money so there's no help there. If Town take over the stadium they can scrap the HDOne folly and get on with developing the site that will benefit the football club ie a megastore, a fans club/bar and many other money making projects which will see cash flowing into the football club . Don't know if that's possible - but it's certainly a good idea and gives us some leverage. |
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Post by detox on Jun 1, 2017 12:55:04 GMT 1
I don't think HTAFC should spend anything directly on stadium upgrades, that's the domain of KSDL, they manage the stadium and charge users for it. If £10m is needed to upgrade then KSDL will have to borrow that money and recharge it through the rental agreement over the next 10-20 years. If KSDL say they cannot do this then HTAFC should insist that ownership is passed to those that can afford it and KSDL can then wind up and we'll save £m's in payroll and expenses. I'm certain that Kirklees won't have any money so there's no help there. If Town take over the stadium they can scrap the HDOne folly and get on with developing the site that will benefit the football club ie a megastore, a fans club/bar and many other money making projects which will see cash flowing into the football club . Don't know if that's possible - but it's certainly a good idea and gives us some leverage. Listening to dean's rather surprising rant a few days ago suggests this might be on his mind. He said it was now up to the officials (council etc) to get on with things now and provide the club with what it needs with it's premier league status. he sounded quite annoyed tbh so obviously there is frustration there. I've not quoted him exactly, just what I recalled the general point to be. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 13:04:27 GMT 1
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Post by Sedgeterrier on Jun 1, 2017 15:43:38 GMT 1
Personally cannot see us signing Mooy, he has gone away for a month now for the national team so it is going to be a long drawn out process aswel, he won't be ready for 1st game of the season either.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jun 1, 2017 15:49:54 GMT 1
Best player I've ever seen at town so technically gifted, sadly I cant see him coming back as we will be priced out I believe, can see city holding out for around 10-15million, but thank you for your effort Aaron you've been a pleasure to have down here!
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Post by richmondjames on Jun 1, 2017 16:10:32 GMT 1
Not to detract from the legend he's become but to be honest I hadn't even heard of mooy before we signed him, so can't get too worked up if we don't get him (am sure they've got a plan A, B and maybe even C in mind...)
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Post by herrphilly on Jun 1, 2017 16:39:43 GMT 1
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Post by keithAM11532 on Jun 1, 2017 16:40:43 GMT 1
That's all well and good doing it the Yorkshire way however we actually want a chance of staying up. The club will do what they see fit but we need to give us a realistic chance of us being able to stay up. We must invest in decent players, I'm not saying we need to go wild but we will need to part with large sums of money otherwise it's back down the football league we go. I personally don't want to see us with a £60 million wage bill like Bournemouth Utterly ridiculous its not utterly ridiculous at all. the players skill and ability generates that revenue through TV rights.That money is arriving at the club come what may - so a 60-40 split players to club seems fair enough to me. |
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Post by lankystreak on Jun 1, 2017 16:50:24 GMT 1
Not to detract from the legend he's become but to be honest I hadn't even heard of mooy before we signed him, so can't get too worked up if we don't get him (am sure they've got a plan A, B and maybe even C in mind...) Completely irrelevant. We all now know what an exceptional talent he is and what a superb addition he would be. I personally think the best we can hope for is getting him back on a years loan again, just can't see us signing him outright as other teams will blow our wages out of the water. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 1, 2017 17:26:35 GMT 1
Don't think we will get him, he's worth ten million.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jun 1, 2017 17:29:29 GMT 1
"Your reward" is referring to the supporters specifically.
Only time will tell if he signs and that'll be another 4/5 weeks at least, I reckon.
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Post by swollentoe on Jun 1, 2017 17:40:17 GMT 1
As of today he is a Man City player so it your reward and not our reward
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jun 1, 2017 17:41:41 GMT 1
Man City player now soon to be a Brighton player. Thanks Aaron one of the best I've seen at town.
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Post by 3Pipe on Jun 1, 2017 17:46:59 GMT 1
Meh, didn't have the eye for a pass that Dean Gorré had, or the finesse of Chris Beech, or the finishing abilty and creativity of Marcus Stewart.  |
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Post by pilks123 on Jun 1, 2017 17:59:14 GMT 1
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 18:06:30 GMT 1
if he goes, he goes. trust DW to bring in a suitable replacement should he go somewhere else.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 18:16:32 GMT 1
if he goes, he goes. trust DW to bring in a suitable replacement should he go somewhere else. This, he's not our player so it's out of our control, whatever happens he will be well thought of at HTFC.  |
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Post by htafc on Jun 1, 2017 18:21:03 GMT 1
Don't think we will get him, he's worth ten million. heard 8 million |
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Post by Big Ern on Jun 1, 2017 18:28:36 GMT 1
£40k pw is approx £2m pa, we have £97m pa coming in from outside sources to add to our sponsorship, gate money and commercial stuff. I hope Town don't fall into the same trap as 1970/72 and try and do it on the cheap. How much to bring the ground to skysports standards? Am sure dean would want to take some of the money back out for him self? Do we want to buy giants share of the ground? (I don't think we should do anything with ground unless we stay up, apart from pitch) 10mill max i think we should put on him, 8m at most for price? Its a hard balance most teams fail to achieve. 100m does not go far if you get carried away (and when other teams know you need to buy fast). I don't think Dean will take that money back that he put in. Huddersfield are now a saleable club and he would likely recoup double his outlay were he to sell. I think that is the more likely option...i wouldn't blame him either way. |
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Post by Big Ern on Jun 1, 2017 18:32:43 GMT 1
I personally don't want to see us with a £60 million wage bill like Bournemouth Utterly ridiculous I've literally just read that and flicked back onto here. I don't either but it just shows you what clubs need to spend or should i say are spending to maintain PL status. You could say it's worth it though...thats 3 premier league seasons now and over 300,000,000 in the bank. They also play a lovely brand of football. I'm not saying we should be anywhere near that this season, we need to have a focused plan to first of all stay up, then consolidate and then look at upping the wage bill to maybe push for Europe. If we achieve the first two then the wage bill would naturally increase |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 19:27:31 GMT 1
Think mooy has been absolute class but at £8 million that's a bit steep imo think Wagner could find just as good if not better for less outlay
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Post by greyarea on Jun 1, 2017 19:35:33 GMT 1
What will be, will be. I don't think there is anything in his instagram post other than wrapping up a great season. He is thanking the fans and happy to have delivered and unprecedented (and unexpected at the start of the season) promotion.
News out from Australia is that Man city are willing to sell and he'll decide what he wants to do over the next 2 weeks. Agent says the manager/coach will be important, clearly he and Wagner have total respect for each other. On the other hand if another club can offer twice the wages and also offer a good setup. Well... You do have to think of your family (just married/young family) and future.
I'd say we have a 50:50 chance of Signing Mooy and lets see how persuasive Moss/Wagner/Hoyle can be. Like many, He's the best all round player I've seen in a Town shirt.
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