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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 1, 2017 19:36:52 GMT 1
Think mooy has been absolute class but at £8 million that's a bit steep imo think Wagner could find just as good if not better for less outlay Really ? I'd love to hear some names.. you do realise 8m doesn't get you very far in the PL ? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 19:49:50 GMT 1
Think mooy has been absolute class but at £8 million that's a bit steep imo think Wagner could find just as good if not better for less outlay Really ? I'd love to hear some names.. you do realise 8m doesn't get you very far in the PL ? |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jun 1, 2017 19:52:44 GMT 1
Think mooy has been absolute class but at £8 million that's a bit steep imo think Wagner could find just as good if not better for less outlay Really ? I'd love to hear some names.. you do realise 8m doesn't get you very far in the PL ? Agree. It's a step change and I expect Town's record transfer fee paid (Schindler) will be absolutely smashed, more than once. Then there's the wages. Burnley splashed £9 million on Gray and, honestly, I can see Town making at least one signing for a similar amount, then a couple or three more at say £3-5 million. Turnover is going to jump exponentially. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jun 1, 2017 19:56:29 GMT 1
Holtby would be about £6m. I'd much rather pay the bit extra and have Mooy.
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Post by kes on Jun 1, 2017 20:06:43 GMT 1
8 million will pay a lot of wages on free agents though. Many would now come to Town that wouldn`t have before.
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Post by Big Ern on Jun 1, 2017 20:11:11 GMT 1
The question is... are we in the premier league to take the money and run, not caring where we finish or are we here to make a go of it? If it's the latter then significant investment is needed to strengthen the squad.
It might sound disloyal to the current bunch but we scored 1 goal in 6 games at the end of last season. Promotion or not there is much work to be done.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 20:16:02 GMT 1
Think mooy has been absolute class but at £8 million that's a bit steep imo think Wagner could find just as good if not better for less outlay Really ? I'd love to hear some names.. you do realise 8m doesn't get you very far in the PL ? Read what I put did I say I could name names ? . I said I beleive Wagner can find as good if not better for less |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 1, 2017 20:26:11 GMT 1
Poor lads got to go off and play some international matches next and an international friendly. Wonder how Man City are going to decide about him? Maybe they have a pre-season tour lined up and he'll get a couple of tries. Think they have just signed a mega million midfielder - Silva. He can't really have any future at Man City can he? Then it just comes down to the best deal on the table for him and his agent? There will be little sentiment inlvolved unless we can match someone else's best offer. Brighton desperately need a better midfield than they had last season. Think ours of Hogg, Mooy and Brown might just cope with good back up to keep everyone fresh.
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Post by londonterrier23 on Jun 1, 2017 20:26:54 GMT 1
Meh, didn't have the eye for a pass that Dean Gorré had, or the finesse of Chris Beech, or the finishing abilty and creativity of Marcus Stewart.  Mooy > Gorre + Beech And stewy is a forward so not sure why that's relevant, like saying he isn't as good a shot stopper as Nico Vassen. |
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Post by jim59 on Jun 1, 2017 20:35:37 GMT 1
Moody has been outstanding a true class player. At the risk of incurring the wrath since Bristol City away he has looked tired and much less effective.
I wonder if the press style has worn him out. Didn't help with Brown and Palmer injuries at a crucial point.
I don't think in reality he is worth 8m but unfortunately prices are inflated a fact we can't escape and clubs with bigger budgets will pay it. I suspect his wage will be the stumbling block. We have demonstrated an ability to find gems why can't we do it again? £4m buying in Europe is a good fee especially in Germany and Eastern Europe.
We can but hope he thinks that Wagner is good for his career and he takes a deal with us with a view to future progression. Unfortunately I suspect City will now cash in.
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Post by jim59 on Jun 1, 2017 20:36:08 GMT 1
Mooy bloody spell check.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2017 20:37:52 GMT 1
Poor lads go to go off and play some international matches next and an international friendly. Wonder how Man City are going to decide about him? Maybe they have a pre-season tour lined up and he'll get a couple of tries. Think they have just signed a mega million midfielder - Silva. He can't really have any future at Man City can he? Then it just comes down to the best deal on the table for him and his agent? There will be little sentiment inlvolved unless we can match someone else's best offer. Brighton desperately need a better midfield than they had last season. Think ours of Hogg, Mooy and Brown might just cope with good back up to keep everyone fresh. Silva is a wide player and a huge upgrade on that waste of space Navas. |
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Post by 3Pipe on Jun 1, 2017 20:44:52 GMT 1
Meh, didn't have the eye for a pass that Dean Gorré had, or the finesse of Chris Beech, or the finishing abilty and creativity of Marcus Stewart. Mooy > Gorre + Beech And stewy is a forward so not sure why that's relevant, like saying he isn't as good a shot stopper as Nico Vassen. Position wasn't mentioned in the quote I quoted, not sure why you think it was. Pay attention. The quote was 'the best I've seen'. I'll put Mooy right up there and maybe above (all 4 different kinds of players) but Gorré and Beech and Stewart will be right up amongst the best I've seen in a Town shirt. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jun 1, 2017 20:45:08 GMT 1
Poor lads go to go off and play some international matches next and an international friendly. Wonder how Man City are going to decide about him? Maybe they have a pre-season tour lined up and he'll get a couple of tries. Think they have just signed a mega million midfielder - Silva. He can't really have any future at Man City can he? Then it just comes down to the best deal on the table for him and his agent? There will be little sentiment inlvolved unless we can match someone else's best offer. Brighton desperately need a better midfield than they had last season. Think ours of Hogg, Mooy and Brown might just cope with good back up to keep everyone fresh. Silva is a wide player and a huge upgrade on that waste of space Navas. Are we talking about the same bloke Bernardo? Ten things to know about him on the Man City website says he is a traditional #10. Not actually Moody's position - but midfield competition. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 1, 2017 20:45:22 GMT 1
Really ? I'd love to hear some names.. you do realise 8m doesn't get you very far in the PL ? Read what I put did I say I could name names ? . I said I beleive Wagner can find as good if not better for less Mooy has been amazing this season .. I thought butterfield (6M) was good but this lad has been on a different planet to him |
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Post by thehitcher on Jun 1, 2017 22:56:47 GMT 1
Read what I put did I say I could name names ? . I said I beleive Wagner can find as good if not better for less Mooy has been amazing this season .. I thought butterfield (6M) was good but this lad has been on a different planet to him And when you consider that mooy will be a bargain at 8mill |
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Post by royrace on Jun 1, 2017 23:44:53 GMT 1
Think mooy has been absolute class but at £8 million that's a bit steep imo think Wagner could find just as good if not better for less outlay Really ? I'd love to hear some names.. you do realise 8m doesn't get you very far in the PL ? People saying izzy would be a steal at 5, if that's the case £8m for Mooy would be an absolute bargain imo. If he's available for 8 and wages aren't ridiculous he's on his way I reckon. I'd love us to buy both plus kasey but I'd price Mooy much higher than both Chelsea lads at the moment as you're buying proven, consistent top quality. If he's as good as I think he'd be worth at least double after a season in the pl. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by mistergrish on Jun 2, 2017 0:02:11 GMT 1
I reckon Hudds are a fair chance of getting Mooy. From what I understand, Mooy just LOVES football. We all do, but his passion for the game is off the scale by cynical professional standards. His number one priority therefore is to play regular football - something he is guaranteed at HTAFC but not necessarily elsewhere. His next two priorities are proximity to his wife's family (Scotland) and money. I think he would prefer a northern club (quicker to Scotland) but the biggest thing going against Hudds is that Mooy's next contract (he's 26) must be the one to set him up for life.
So, on the proximity to Scotland issue and money issue, Hudds' biggest rival will be Newcastle. Famous big club, plenty of money, huge stadium with super-passionate fans - that will all appeal to him, but will he be guaranteed to play every week?
However, he (apparently) really likes DW and sees him as a manager who could further develop his career and football. He already has friends in the team and likes the fans. If the money (wages) are close enough to what Newcastle offer I suspect his preference will be to stay.
The biggest questions will be how much Newcastle are prepared to pay Man City (and wages) and whether Man City would accept (a little bit) less from Hudds just to let Mooy play where his heart (I believe) is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 0:21:58 GMT 1
Holtby would be about £6m. I'd much rather pay the bit extra and have Mooy. Agree. Mooy will be even more effective with better players around him. There's a lot more to come for him attacking wise. He's been badly jaded the last 1/4 season. So hard for Aussie or far east players. But oh THAT feint to beat Williams before setting up Colin will live long in the memory. If I had the skills I'd make that my picture thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 0:26:02 GMT 1
I reckon Hudds are a fair chance of getting Mooy. From what I understand, Mooy just LOVES football. We all do, but his passion for the game is off the scale by cynical professional standards. His number one priority therefore is to play regular football - something he is guaranteed at HTAFC but not necessarily elsewhere. His next two priorities are proximity to his wife's family (Scotland) and money. I think he would prefer a northern club (quicker to Scotland) but the biggest thing going against Hudds is that Mooy's next contract (he's 26) must be the one to set him up for life. So, on the proximity to Scotland issue and money issue, Hudds' biggest rival will be Newcastle. Famous big club, plenty of money, huge stadium with super-passionate fans - that will all appeal to him, but will he be guaranteed to play every week? However, he (apparently) really likes DW and sees him as a manager who could further develop his career and football. He already has friends in the team and likes the fans. If the money (wages) are close enough to what Newcastle offer I suspect his preference will be to stay. The biggest questions will be how much Newcastle are prepared to pay Man City (and wages) and whether Man City would accept (a little bit) less from Hudds just to let Mooy play where his heart (I believe) is. & would Benitez want him. They have the stopper in diame & their own baldy Shelvey. Will they be looking for more of a £15-20M midfielder? |
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Post by melbournelad on Jun 2, 2017 2:14:33 GMT 1
I think Mooy’s decision will be based primarily on the manager and game style of the club. He is fundamentally a ball player. Money is obviously going to come into it but most of his decision will be based on football.
If Wagner stays I reackon Mooy stays.
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 2, 2017 3:52:30 GMT 1
Moody has been outstanding a true class player. At the risk of incurring the wrath since Bristol City away he has looked tired and much less effective. I wonder if the press style has worn him out. Didn't help with Brown and Palmer injuries at a crucial point. I don't think in reality he is worth 8m but unfortunately prices are inflated a fact we can't escape and clubs with bigger budgets will pay it. I suspect his wage will be the stumbling block. We have demonstrated an ability to find gems why can't we do it again? £4m buying in Europe is a good fee especially in Germany and Eastern Europe. We can but hope he thinks that Wagner is good for his career and he takes a deal with us with a view to future progression. Unfortunately I suspect City will now cash in. I think the difference is Wagner trusts Mooy to do a job and he is a known quantity. He knows that going to the premier league isn't going to give Mooy a bighead and see him out partying all night. That there is almost priceless. Take a look at what a disruptive player can do to a team with Arsenal. |
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Post by Pork Soda on Jun 2, 2017 5:07:17 GMT 1
I reckon Hudds are a fair chance of getting Mooy. From what I understand, Mooy just LOVES football. We all do, but his passion for the game is off the scale by cynical professional standards. His number one priority therefore is to play regular football - something he is guaranteed at HTAFC but not necessarily elsewhere. His next two priorities are proximity to his wife's family (Scotland) and money. I think he would prefer a northern club (quicker to Scotland) but the biggest thing going against Hudds is that Mooy's next contract (he's 26) must be the one to set him up for life. So, on the proximity to Scotland issue and money issue, Hudds' biggest rival will be Newcastle. Famous big club, plenty of money, huge stadium with super-passionate fans - that will all appeal to him, but will he be guaranteed to play every week? However, he (apparently) really likes DW and sees him as a manager who could further develop his career and football. He already has friends in the team and likes the fans. If the money (wages) are close enough to what Newcastle offer I suspect his preference will be to stay. The biggest questions will be how much Newcastle are prepared to pay Man City (and wages) and whether Man City would accept (a little bit) less from Hudds just to let Mooy play where his heart (I believe) is. Good (post) !! |
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Post by Convictatthemac on Jun 2, 2017 5:21:56 GMT 1
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jun 2, 2017 7:28:57 GMT 1
Absolute masterstroke how we got him last season.....
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Post by detox on Jun 2, 2017 9:08:20 GMT 1
It's hard to know what Mooy thinks, he's a difficult character to read because he seems quite reserved and perhaps a bit shy ? There can be no doubt though that he'll have enjoyed his season with Town despite being farmed out by Citeh to a lowly side like Town were. To his credit he's always put in a shift so no sulking there. Seems weird seeing that interview back at his host club when it feels like he's 'ours'. I'm sure Wagner will have been in his ear though before he departed. Mooy has a guaranteed place in our side and next season will be less games (38) which might be easier for him while he'll be keeping an eye on World cup qualification and hopefully finals next summer. He can star in our side, but on the bench at City or Newcastle isn't going to do him any favours I don't think. Hopefully we'll know soon what's happening with him.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2017 9:49:32 GMT 1
Just imagine the Newcastle midfield with Shelvey and Mooy alongside each other. What a fine pair they would make ...
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Post by lahdeedah on Jun 2, 2017 9:59:34 GMT 1
It's hard to know what Mooy thinks, he's a difficult character to read because he seems quite reserved and perhaps a bit shy ? There can be no doubt though that he'll have enjoyed his season with Town despite being farmed out by Citeh to a lowly side like Town were. To his credit he's always put in a shift so no sulking there. Seems weird seeing that interview back at his host club when it feels like he's 'ours'. I'm sure Wagner will have been in his ear though before he departed. Mooy has a guaranteed place in our side and next season will be less games (38) which might be easier for him while he'll be keeping an eye on World cup qualification and hopefully finals next summer. He can star in our side, but on the bench at City or Newcastle isn't going to do him any favours I don't think. Hopefully we'll know soon what's happening with him. Couldn't be easier to read. Yes, he's a bit shy but you can tell he means every word he says. If you don't know you can't say and at this point he doesn't know. |
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Post by ldotm on Jun 2, 2017 10:04:56 GMT 1
Absolute masterstroke how we got him last season..... But you'd rather have Clayton right? |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 2, 2017 10:05:41 GMT 1
I'd be very surprised if Mooy was playing for us next season. A bit less surprised if brown were . Even less surprised if ward were ( but would we want him ? ) and not at all surprised if palmer was .
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