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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 14, 2016 18:38:22 GMT 1
I'll second that. Not 'turning on the club' at all. Shelling out over a hundred quid with the promise of priority ticketing then within days shoved down the pecking order isn't on Mr Winter..  Yep. Without looking into this too deeply, sounds like an inexplicable blunder. Costs Town cash and loses goodwill at the same time. |
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Post by terrierng on Jul 14, 2016 18:42:09 GMT 1
I'll second that. Not 'turning on the club' at all. Shelling out over a hundred quid with the promise of priority ticketing then within days shoved down the pecking order isn't on Mr Winter.. Yep. Without looking into this too deeply, sounds like an inexplicable blunder. Costs Town cash and loses goodwill at the same time. Its just cost them 200 quid me cancelling my two bandw,and no I'm not getting a tot either. |
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Post by Barbieterrier on Jul 14, 2016 18:42:44 GMT 1
I wonder if the club ever thinks these things through or gets advice on them? Obviously it will upset long standing B & W and Patrons. Twenty quid and you're priority over everyone else. But (not that it's likely) what if every season ticket holder purchases the card? There's no priorty then anyway. I understand the concept of £199 being good value etc but they should have thought through the priority card properly. The end of the day we never sell out Leeds. I've never struggled to get an away ticket all the years I've been going. This appears to be in response to unknown demand for Newcastle. Do we know what the allocation will be there? Are we likely to sell out?
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Post by wazzahtfc on Jul 14, 2016 18:43:01 GMT 1
Been in the B&W since day 1 , and as other benefits have gradually eroded , the priority tickets is the one thing keeping me in it . Massive clanger by the club IMO as plenty will cancel . Probably have to sign up for TOT even though i don't agree with it. Its not really even about the £20 , more the loyalty factor.
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jul 14, 2016 18:50:00 GMT 1
I wonder if the club ever thinks these things through or gets advice on them? Obviously it will upset long standing B & W and Patrons. Twenty quid and you're priority over everyone else. But (not that it's likely) what if every season ticket holder purchases the card? There's no priorty then anyway. I understand the concept of £199 being good value etc but they should have thought through the priority card properly. The end of the day we never sell out Leeds. I've never struggled to get an away ticket all the years I've been going. This appears to be in response to unknown demand for Newcastle. Do we know what the allocation will be there? Are we likely to sell out? Been watching Town away regularly since I finished uni 10 years ago. In all that time I can only recall three occasions where I failed to get a ticket - Arsenal, when I just went in the home end, Brighton - small allocation with a number handed out to P4Pers and Hartlepool when I didn't know if could make it until the day of the game so again went in the home end. Note - I have never been a patron or in B&W and a couple of times didn't even have a season ticket |
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Post by terrierng on Jul 14, 2016 18:50:50 GMT 1
I wonder if the club ever thinks these things through or gets advice on them? Obviously it will upset long standing B & W and Patrons. Twenty quid and you're priority over everyone else. But (not that it's likely) what if every season ticket holder purchases the card? There's no priorty then anyway. I understand the concept of £199 being good value etc but they should have thought through the priority card properly. The end of the day we never sell out Leeds. I've never struggled to get an away ticket all the years I've been going. This appears to be in response to unknown demand for Newcastle. Do we know what the allocation will be there? Are we likely to sell out? 3000 tickets for Newcastle, the club know this will sell out so this scheme is for that,call it a Newcastle tax,no other game will have such big demand so the tot wont be needed,so by. 'taxing' the Newcastle game the club will lose thousands in cancellation of the bandw,whose ever idea this was wants sacking. |
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Post by detox on Jul 14, 2016 19:04:45 GMT 1
I wonder if the club ever thinks these things through or gets advice on them? Obviously it will upset long standing B & W and Patrons. Twenty quid and you're priority over everyone else. But (not that it's likely) what if every season ticket holder purchases the card? There's no priorty then anyway. I understand the concept of £199 being good value etc but they should have thought through the priority card properly. The end of the day we never sell out Leeds. I've never struggled to get an away ticket all the years I've been going. This appears to be in response to unknown demand for Newcastle. Do we know what the allocation will be there? Are we likely to sell out? 3000 tickets for Newcastle, the club know this will sell out so this scheme is for that,call it a Newcastle tax,no other game will have such big demand so the tot wont be needed,so by. 'taxing' the Newcastle game the club will lose thousands in cancellation of the bandw,whose ever idea this was wants sacking. hmm, you say that now - but if we do have a good season demand for away tickets will be as it was some years when we filled the MKD end, 4,000 to Hillsbro' etc etc... |
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Post by terrierng on Jul 14, 2016 19:07:56 GMT 1
3000 tickets for Newcastle, the club know this will sell out so this scheme is for that,call it a Newcastle tax,no other game will have such big demand so the tot wont be needed,so by. 'taxing' the Newcastle game the club will lose thousands in cancellation of the bandw,whose ever idea this was wants sacking. hmm, you say that now - but if we do have a good season demand for away tickets will be as it was some years when we filled the MKD end, 4,000 to Hillsbro' etc etc... Those two still wernt sell outs;) Its a 'newcastle tax' End of  |
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Post by detox on Jul 14, 2016 19:09:32 GMT 1
hmm, you say that now - but if we do have a good season demand for away tickets will be as it was some years when we filled the MKD end, 4,000 to Hillsbro' etc etc... Those two still wernt sell outs😉😉 fair comment, but they might be this time if Town are pushing for play-offs to Premier League ? (well not MKD..but barnsley..rotherham..etc) |
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Post by terrierng on Jul 14, 2016 19:11:13 GMT 1
Those two still wernt sell outs😉😉 fair comment, but they might be this time if Town are pushing for play-offs to Premier League ? Maybe they will,but they wont all of paid the 20 quid,only be worth it if we get a big one off cup game |
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Post by artysid on Jul 14, 2016 19:16:14 GMT 1
For those who are cancelling their B&W and not getting an "away card" look on the bright side, you're getting a season ticket for £75 quid with a remote chance of not getting a ticket for maybe 2 away games at most.
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 14, 2016 19:18:18 GMT 1
I've been in the B&WF for years. Never win owt. And now having already bought train tickets to Newcastle for me and the eldest I'm told it's gonna cost me an extra £30 to guarantee getting a ticket. Jesus. Cancellation of B&WF to cover the cost I guess.
Talk about making a mess of it.
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Post by terrierng on Jul 14, 2016 19:19:44 GMT 1
Those two still wernt sell outs😉😉 fair comment, but they might be this time if Town are pushing for play-offs to Premier League ? (well not MKD..but barnsley..rotherham..etc) Rotherham yes,Barnsley holds 7k away if needed,we wouldn't sell that unless we were going up, plus they wont sell 7k tot,if we ever take that many they will have been on general sale, the club has done this to profit from the Newcastle game,but in doing so they will lose out big-time on the cancellation of bandw membership |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 14, 2016 19:45:14 GMT 1
The club were getting it so right....then this fuck up. Ito just giving the club 20 quid for nothing. If 3000 people join it still might not give you a guaranteed ticket on a small allocation, then what? Just another money making scheme for which you get very little in return for your 20 quid.
What is mad is that if you buy a season ticket you are way down the pecking order now for away tickets....come on Town piss take.
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Post by mykindatown on Jul 14, 2016 19:47:13 GMT 1
I wonder if the club ever thinks these things through or gets advice on them? Obviously it will upset long standing B & W and Patrons. Twenty quid and you're priority over everyone else. But (not that it's likely) what if every season ticket holder purchases the card? There's no priorty then anyway. I understand the concept of £199 being good value etc but they should have thought through the priority card properly. The end of the day we never sell out Leeds. I've never struggled to get an away ticket all the years I've been going. This appears to be in response to unknown demand for Newcastle. Do we know what the allocation will be there? Are we likely to sell out? Nail on the head IMO Piss poor planning and insufficient thought has created this alienation and I truly feel sympathy for the B&W (old and new) and Patrons who have been displaced in the pecking order unless they front up another fee like others who realistically could be people who only want to go to just 2 or 3 'attractive away games' all year and are willing to pay the price to do so. They just didn't think this through and that is the issue - did they not foresee the alienation and outrage amongst many loyal fans that would happen ...... or perhaps they did and intentionally chose to ignore it as this was the easiest thing to do by upsetting some fans ........... Many with historically great loyalty over previous years. That said if they did then why wait till now to announce it - very bad choice They didn't have to change it much in my view Simply create two top priority bands with the first one being for ST holders who were B&W members / Patron prior to last season ending and the next being for ST holders who joined BW after last season ended? I think that would have been the better option and more amenable to all concerned? Of course it does create still possible over subscription still for one or two games (i.e. Newcastle ~ depends on the number of BW members in total who are ST holders) - but fans have to realize that there are only 3K tickets in that case and as long as the club are seen to equitably control the issue then e1 else may have been more relaxed about all of this - instead we have a looming fiasco There I have said my bit. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 19:55:26 GMT 1
I bet the club love the feedback to this brainstorming idea,,,
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Post by clayton west blue on Jul 14, 2016 19:56:04 GMT 1
Been in blue and white years won tenner twice what a joke decision on phone tomorrow to cancel should have made season card and blue and white first choice travel membership second strange one can see loads cancelling
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Post by shawsie on Jul 14, 2016 20:08:26 GMT 1
It's clearly a poor decision........particularly after the faultless ticket pricing and summer signings.
Hopefully sense will prevail and we will return to the previous system where longstanding financial supporters of the club via season tickets, b and w and patrons are rightly given priority. As much as its not nice, those who have only bought tickets this season should wait behind those who have spent hundreds year in year out.
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Post by terrierng on Jul 14, 2016 20:18:35 GMT 1
It's clearly a poor decision........particularly after the faultless ticket pricing and summer signings. Hopefully sense will prevail and we will return to the previous system where longstanding financial supporters of the club via season tickets, b and w and patrons are rightly given priority. As much as its not nice, those who have only bought tickets this season should wait behind those who have spent hundreds year in year out. Big own goal,should be band white,patrons and sc holders first,the ones who back the club most. Then priority to the ones who pay the tot Then sc Then general sale. After all the good the club has done and all the feel good factors this has imo been a massive own goal. I go as a family it will cost me an extra fifty quid:'( And lets be honest it will only matter for the Newcastle game |
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Post by Mirfield Lass on Jul 14, 2016 20:26:53 GMT 1
I've been in the B&W for years and the only reason why I'm in it is that I get reduced gym membership for Canalside. If I wasn't using the gym on a regular basis then I would be cancelling it.
I don't go to as many away matches now as what I used to so it's pointless for me paying the £20.
If people cancel their B&W then it just creates more chances for me to win money as I've won bugger all for the time I've been in it!
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Post by ben1987 on Jul 14, 2016 20:27:37 GMT 1
It's clearly a poor decision........particularly after the faultless ticket pricing and summer signings. Hopefully sense will prevail and we will return to the previous system where longstanding financial supporters of the club via season tickets, b and w and patrons are rightly given priority. As much as its not nice, those who have only bought tickets this season should wait behind those who have spent hundreds year in year out. Big own goal,should be band white,patrons and sc holders first,the ones who back the club most. Then priority to the ones who pay the tot Then sc Then general sale. After all the good the club has done and all the feel good factors this has imo been a massive own goal. I go as a family it will cost me an extra fifty quid:'( And lets be honest it will only matter for the Newcastle game Not worth pulling your hair out over it mate. |
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Post by conman on Jul 14, 2016 20:28:53 GMT 1
Winter out!
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Post by terrierng on Jul 14, 2016 20:29:45 GMT 1
Big own goal,should be band white,patrons and sc holders first,the ones who back the club most. Then priority to the ones who pay the tot Then sc Then general sale. After all the good the club has done and all the feel good factors this has imo been a massive own goal. I go as a family it will cost me an extra fifty quid:'( And lets be honest it will only matter for the Newcastle game Not worth pulling your hair out over it mate. That's true benji and I think i will keep the bandw for the cheap gym membership 👍👍 |
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Post by ben1987 on Jul 14, 2016 20:30:48 GMT 1
Not worth pulling your hair out over it mate. That's true benji and I think i will keep the bandw for the cheap gym membership 👍👍 Do you go on the treadmill to train yourself to run away?  |
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jul 14, 2016 20:31:47 GMT 1
Big own goal,should be band white,patrons and sc holders first,the ones who back the club most. Then priority to the ones who pay the tot Then sc Then general sale. After all the good the club has done and all the feel good factors this has imo been a massive own goal. I go as a family it will cost me an extra fifty quid:'( And lets be honest it will only matter for the Newcastle game Not worth pulling your hair out over it mate. Ber dum tshhh |
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Post by softboy on Jul 14, 2016 20:32:26 GMT 1
I think Julian winter has pretty much made it clear on the town website that this is pretty much a short term money making exercise when he says "will only be used when the ticket office deem demand will be high such as our first three away games at Newcastle villa and Leeds - bring back Nigel clibbens - he thought things through and got it wron whereas this guy has just got it wrong - how it's not a sign of things to come
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Post by terrierng on Jul 14, 2016 20:33:33 GMT 1
That's true benji and I think i will keep the bandw for the cheap gym membership 👍👍 Do you go o the treadmill to train yourself to run away? Punchbag, it has your ugly mug on it,never get tired |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2016 20:35:12 GMT 1
If they want to do a card then why not;
Card + Season card + b&w/patron = top priority
Season card + b&w/patron OR Card + Season card = second priority
Season card = third priority
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Post by Barbieterrier on Jul 14, 2016 20:35:13 GMT 1
Looks like Mr Javis has received some abuse on Facebook in response to this and has said 'nothing stops the club from grouping both TOT and B & W together if deemed correct'.
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Post by town1 on Jul 14, 2016 20:36:09 GMT 1
Naive at best. I'm not paying a premium for tickets. If they sell out tough. If I have such a low value to the club that they want to classify me as fourth rate i.e. Because I do not live close to the town and I am only a season card holder and have only supported the club for nearly 50 years then I will put the radio on.
Urgent rethink needed.
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