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Post by uptownfunk on May 19, 2024 14:24:45 GMT 1
Well done to Sheikh Mansour for successfully buying the title again. UAE all the way. As much as people hate City. Can you explain 'bought the league' Their defence cost less than what United paid for Maguire. Their front 4 cost less than what United paid for Anthony. They have actually bought really well. They are 5th in spending over the last 3 years. I can’t tell if you’re taking the P or not. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 19, 2024 14:26:32 GMT 1
The guy Adeyemo who has just come on for Crawley can be worth watching.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on May 19, 2024 14:29:05 GMT 1
we have the be one of the favourites so why shouldn't other teams look at us as one to beat. Honestly negativity is why we are where we are. let's have a little positivity. Negativity is why we are where we are? How do you work that out? What does it even mean? There’s been far bigger fish than us in L1 in recent years so let’s not make out we’re something special to anyone there. Bit of humility, take our L1 medicine and hopefully come back a better run club and a better football team. Enough with the ‘we should be pissing this league’ bollocks. Bar two remarkable seasons we’ve been shite for years. It’s as if saying ‘we’ll win the league by Xmas’ will make it so. Will it bollocks. We're nothing special but for the past 5 seasons or so we have functioned on negative energy. We were relegated from the premier league. We had players who killed us dry and wouldn't leave. We tasted a little success under corberan and then when we should have backed him we bottled it. We found ourselves days from going into administration and possibly bankruptcy. We were taken over and employed possibly the worst manager I've seen since Supermac. We then employed a manager with a decent record only to find out the dressing room was a lost cause. We're no big fish no but if the right man can take us forward we should be feared. As Hoyle and Wagner showed, When our club and it's support base is as one we can do amazing things. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 19, 2024 14:45:52 GMT 1
Yes! MOM with the second for Crawley!
Congratulations Crawley, well deserved!
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Post by Galpharmer on May 19, 2024 15:03:25 GMT 1
Crawley beat Town first game of next season. Nailed on.
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Post by alanalanleeee on May 19, 2024 15:05:44 GMT 1
Crawley beat Town first game of next season. Nailed on. Was about to say exactly the same! Commentator even mentioned us as a big boy for them next season. They’re beating us 3-1 first game |
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Post by tepidterrier on May 19, 2024 15:08:16 GMT 1
Well deserved Crawley, they were streets ahead of Crewe.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 19, 2024 15:14:52 GMT 1
As said before, I think Town fans will enjoy their visit to Crawley Town. Good bar, good food, nearby free parking, you can stand or sit.
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Post by Galpharmer on May 19, 2024 15:16:32 GMT 1
Crawley beat Town first game of next season. Nailed on. Was about to say exactly the same! Commentator even mentioned us as a big boy for them next season. They’re beating us 3-1 first game Yep. The new Plymouth. |
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Post by rockwall on May 19, 2024 15:28:37 GMT 1
As much as people hate City. Can you explain 'bought the league' Their defence cost less than what United paid for Maguire. Their front 4 cost less than what United paid for Anthony. They have actually bought really well. They are 5th in spending over the last 3 years. Have you forgotten about Jack Grealish, Kyle Walker and Gvardiol alone cost £122m, KDB and Rodri both cost around £60m, Ederson at the time was the world record for a keeper, Benjamin Mendy and Aymeric Laporte were at least £90m combined, Dias cost about £70-80m, Nunes cost £50-60m just to warm the bench You can add fees up all you like. Hojland, Anthony and maguire. Chelsea with Murdryk, caciedo and fofana. It's the same for all the bigger clubs. City also payed small prices for Alvarez, Akanji, They also sold Palmer, Laporte, magrez, sterling, Jesus and Zinchenko for an insane amount. I really don't see how they 'buy' the league as their net spend is below a lot of others. |
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Post by utttrooper on May 19, 2024 15:44:17 GMT 1
Have you forgotten about Jack Grealish, Kyle Walker and Gvardiol alone cost £122m, KDB and Rodri both cost around £60m, Ederson at the time was the world record for a keeper, Benjamin Mendy and Aymeric Laporte were at least £90m combined, Dias cost about £70-80m, Nunes cost £50-60m just to warm the bench You can add fees up all you like. Hojland, Anthony and maguire. Chelsea with Murdryk, caciedo and fofana. It's the same for all the bigger clubs. City also payed small prices for Alvarez, Akanji, They also sold Palmer, Laporte, magrez, sterling, Jesus and Zinchenko for an insane amount. I really don't see how they 'buy' the league as their net spend is below a lot of others. Only Man Utd have a bigger net spend in the past 10 years and whilst I'm not saying they have completely bought the league and they have spent the money well for the most part, I am confident in saying that they would be nowhere near the level they are now without their owners spending as much as they have. Also Man City have a higher net spend than United since 2008 and oil money as well. |
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Post by utttrooper on May 19, 2024 16:04:38 GMT 1
That's the league done then
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Post by rockwall on May 19, 2024 16:04:47 GMT 1
We should enter league 1 with the same attitude and mentality they entered the Championship. That was the whole point. You tell me where we are as a club? I believe we are financially secure and we are probably one of the wealthier clubs in League 1. I also believe we have some of the best facilities in League 1. I really don't understand what's wrong with a positive attitude for a change. We’re a club coming off the back of two rancid rancid seasons in the Championship with a cobbled together squad that have underperformed (or maybe just performed to their level) for a long time now. We’re a club that seem unable to keep large parts of said squad fit for long periods of time, with many contracted players returning from long-term injury layoffs. We’re a club that under new ownership has underperformed in the transfer market for the previous two windows and the previous regime did the same post play-offs. We’re a club that has strikers that don’t score, midfielders that can’t pass and ageing centre-halves whose performances have diminished season upon season. We’re a club that previous managers have stated is lacking leaders and the most recent boss said were riven by dressing room cliques. We’re a club whose value of their most saleable assets has decreased significantly with relegation and who have question marks over their attitude. Yes, we have a new manager that I am optimistic about. Yes, we have a chairman who at this stage seems willing to lose millions of pounds of money for no obvious reason. These are reasons to be positive. And I’m hopeful for a good season. But is this guaranteed? No. Is it justified? No. Just because we were in the Prem 5 seasons ago means the square root of nothing. I don't disagree with those points. But they are rectifiable. 1. The injuries - that's down to the fitness and conditioning. Majority of muscle injuries too which leads to the lack of fitness. 2. We have had 2 shite season, nobody can deny that. But again, it's the coaching. A lot of the squad got to Wembley. 3. I would say the ownership isn't the issue. Last summer it was tricky due to changing. January, the ownership trusted his mean, he threw money at it. The issue was the players we brought in weren't ready to go like we needed them to. 4. Agree. We need leaders. Lee Clark and Wagner brought in captains. Both did very good jobs. Unfortunately for LC he never got that promotion. I really just feel we should change the attitude and mentality of being a 'small dog'. I didn't mean it as arrogance, but I think we need the mentality of 'we want to win the league, no excuses' |
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Post by alexdire on May 19, 2024 16:05:36 GMT 1
Well after 98 years that's the record gone.
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Post by rockwall on May 19, 2024 16:07:41 GMT 1
Clear city would win, but at least for the neutrals leave it until late.
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Post by stevvy on May 19, 2024 16:10:51 GMT 1
That's the league done then Yup. Done and dusted within 2 minutes. Boring |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 19, 2024 16:11:41 GMT 1
Have to hope Kudus pulls out a bit of magic
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Post by nicovaesen on May 19, 2024 16:13:21 GMT 1
As said before, I think Town fans will enjoy their visit to Crawley Town. Good bar, good food, nearby free parking, you can stand or sit. Is it near railway station? |
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Post by rockwall on May 19, 2024 16:15:09 GMT 1
Have to hope Kudus pulls out a bit of magic They have to try get the ball to him first!! Here's hoping for JWP set piece special today |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 19, 2024 16:17:29 GMT 1
Caicedo just scored from the half way line
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Post by alexdire on May 19, 2024 16:18:18 GMT 1
As said before, I think Town fans will enjoy their visit to Crawley Town. Good bar, good food, nearby free parking, you can stand or sit. Is it near railway station? No, it's on the opposite side of Crawley to Gatwick (south/north) and Three Bridges (west/east) I worked there for 18 months twenty years ago. Creepy was a dump. |
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Post by rockwall on May 19, 2024 16:18:31 GMT 1
That Chelsea goal....
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Post by utttrooper on May 19, 2024 16:19:22 GMT 1
Well after 98 years that's the record gone. At least we were the first to do it and will be remembered as such. I'll still however be an FFP FC fan should our record be reinstated |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 19, 2024 16:19:47 GMT 1
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 19, 2024 16:20:12 GMT 1
Do you think that the Man C experiment has been a long time in coming though?
It’ll be interesting to see the outcome of the 112 charges, because even if those are legacy, all it says to me is that they prospered when they should have been sanctioned many yrs ago. Would that have put them on a different trajectory?
I still think the PL has suckered everybody in though. It stopped being a competition a few years ago. When it was formed it was all about the money, but I’m not sure even then they would imagine it would have morphed into what it is today.
Anyway, at least these players can look forward to a few days off after today. Sorry, I mean those players that aren’t involved in exhibition matches that they’ll be doing to rake in even more money…
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 19, 2024 16:21:14 GMT 1
Nice one West Ham, as useless as Spurs
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Post by rockwall on May 19, 2024 16:22:11 GMT 1
City not only taking the joy out of the PL, taking the joy out of theaat day too.
Worst bit is, Foden won't do sod all in the Euros.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on May 19, 2024 16:22:49 GMT 1
I wonder if there will be the 10,000 backroom staff paraded on the pitch for the trophy lift at the end?
It went on forever last yr. I thought they were bussing the buggers in at one point…
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Post by utttrooper on May 19, 2024 16:23:43 GMT 1
City not only taking the joy out of the PL, taking the joy out of theaat day too. Worst bit is, Foden won't do sod all in the Euros. Now that Foden has proved himself in the prem it's surely about timee he had a go in league 1 |
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Post by joek on May 19, 2024 16:25:43 GMT 1
We’re a club coming off the back of two rancid rancid seasons in the Championship with a cobbled together squad that have underperformed (or maybe just performed to their level) for a long time now. We’re a club that seem unable to keep large parts of said squad fit for long periods of time, with many contracted players returning from long-term injury layoffs. We’re a club that under new ownership has underperformed in the transfer market for the previous two windows and the previous regime did the same post play-offs. We’re a club that has strikers that don’t score, midfielders that can’t pass and ageing centre-halves whose performances have diminished season upon season. We’re a club that previous managers have stated is lacking leaders and the most recent boss said were riven by dressing room cliques. We’re a club whose value of their most saleable assets has decreased significantly with relegation and who have question marks over their attitude. Yes, we have a new manager that I am optimistic about. Yes, we have a chairman who at this stage seems willing to lose millions of pounds of money for no obvious reason. These are reasons to be positive. And I’m hopeful for a good season. But is this guaranteed? No. Is it justified? No. Just because we were in the Prem 5 seasons ago means the square root of nothing. I don't disagree with those points. But they are rectifiable. 1. The injuries - that's down to the fitness and conditioning. Majority of muscle injuries too which leads to the lack of fitness. 2. We have had 2 shite season, nobody can deny that. But again, it's the coaching. A lot of the squad got to Wembley. 3. I would say the ownership isn't the issue. Last summer it was tricky due to changing. January, the ownership trusted his mean, he threw money at it. The issue was the players we brought in weren't ready to go like we needed them to. 4. Agree. We need leaders. Lee Clark and Wagner brought in captains. Both did very good jobs. Unfortunately for LC he never got that promotion. I really just feel we should change the attitude and mentality of being a 'small dog'. I didn't mean it as arrogance, but I think we need the mentality of 'we want to win the league, no excuses' Well I guess we’re not far from agreeing then. Think my issue has always been reading these posts about mentality and thinking to myself one of either a) I don’t think it’s important and I don’t really know why people get worked up about it, b) it’s intangible so how does anyone know who’s got what mentality?, or c) don’t talk about mentality. Do your talking on the pitch. End of. Talking about mentality whilst being monumentally shit like we have for two years seems somewhat misguided! I appreciate that you might come back and say ‘that’s because we haven’t had a positive mentality and have talked ourselves down.’ I would then say that I don’t believe that is true! |
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