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Post by aloadofdbullocks on May 19, 2024 10:51:12 GMT 1
As much as people hate City. Can you explain 'bought the league' Their defence cost less than what United paid for Maguire. Their front 4 cost less than what United paid for Anthony. They have actually bought really well. They are 5th in spending over the last 3 years. It doesn’t fit the anti-City narrative to point out they have a brilliant manager/coach and play good football. They’ve obviously cheated with FFP, but I suspect they’re one of 20 in the Premier League who have (plus those in the Championship). I wonder why they have a brilliant manager and play good football? |
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Post by aloadofdbullocks on May 19, 2024 10:52:44 GMT 1
Let’s hope it’s a Lance Armstrong situation and they get their titles revoked. (Not gonna happen is it. ☹️)
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Post by joek on May 19, 2024 10:53:03 GMT 1
Negativity is why we are where we are? How do you work that out? What does it even mean? There’s been far bigger fish than us in L1 in recent years so let’s not make out we’re something special to anyone there. Bit of humility, take our L1 medicine and hopefully come back a better run club and a better football team. Enough with the ‘we should be pissing this league’ bollocks. Bar two remarkable seasons we’ve been shite for years. It’s as if saying ‘we’ll win the league by Xmas’ will make it so. Will it bollocks. What do you mean bigger fish? By name? In the last 10 seasons, only we will have been in the PL that is now in League 1. That to me puts us as the biggest club in there. We should have high expectations of an automatic spot. Don't see what's wrong woth ambition. This small dog mentality is what is bollocks. Oooh no we have to play Bolton now. Pathetic. Not sure why you keep banging on about Leicester? No comparisons between us whatsoever. And being a ‘bigger team’ means nothing either. Don’t think anyone’s scared of playing Bolton but it’s another strong team who will be challenging for promotion and likely accumulating a lot of points over the season. No problem with ambition when it’s grounded in reality. You don’t seem to be basing anything on the actual reality of where we currently are as a club though? |
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Post by goodbet on May 19, 2024 10:56:38 GMT 1
I agree we could name it "Today's Games 2024/25" and have a fresh one every year. The thread is 8 years old, nobody is looking back 2000 pages... are they?? I doubt it, but if anyone wanted to look back having a new thread every year would help. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 19, 2024 10:58:36 GMT 1
Negativity is why we are where we are? How do you work that out? What does it even mean? There’s been far bigger fish than us in L1 in recent years so let’s not make out we’re something special to anyone there. Bit of humility, take our L1 medicine and hopefully come back a better run club and a better football team. Enough with the ‘we should be pissing this league’ bollocks. Bar two remarkable seasons we’ve been shite for years. It’s as if saying ‘we’ll win the league by Xmas’ will make it so. Will it bollocks. What do you mean bigger fish? By name? In the last 10 seasons, only we will have been in the PL that is now in League 1. That to me puts us as the biggest club in there. We should have high expectations of an automatic spot. Don't see what's wrong woth ambition. This small dog mentality is what is bollocks. Oooh no we have to play Bolton now. Pathetic. Our owner has, if he wishes to invest, a large sum. We should be selling enough season cards to produce some of the bigger home gates in the division this year. We have a manager who got really close to promotion with a lot less avaialable to him in this division. We have a decent amount of time this summer to sort out the issues and end up with a squad that he wants and can use and has time with, with the added advantage of at least being able to compete for the better players who want to play in this division. The truth is we should be a more attractive proposition for the better players in lg1 than we would be in the championship. I know its no guarantee of success but a little more expectation isnt a bad thing.. We are supposed to be confident and progressive in that manner, believing and showing that belief isnt a bad thing. Id like to start this next season with at least a little swagger and confidence that we are going to be one of the teams to beat if you want to challenge at the top, its unlikely with a billionaire American owner, who likes to have his say, and our just coming down that we could sneak a good season under the radar. Prepare properly for it, play it like we mean it..  UTT... |
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Post by rockwall on May 19, 2024 11:04:18 GMT 1
As much as people hate City. Can you explain 'bought the league' Their defence cost less than what United paid for Maguire. Their front 4 cost less than what United paid for Anthony. They have actually bought really well. They are 5th in spending over the last 3 years. They face 115 charges re FFP providing false figures re revenue and managers fees etc etc. The foundation of their success is undoubtedly their spending backed by an oil state. That’s probably what he means by buying the league. And if you read into it there is actually zero evidence. The powers went to City asking for every email etc from theist 10 years and city said 'no' due to the fact they didn't have anything circumstantial to warrant that. |
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Post by rockwall on May 19, 2024 11:07:01 GMT 1
What do you mean bigger fish? By name? In the last 10 seasons, only we will have been in the PL that is now in League 1. That to me puts us as the biggest club in there. We should have high expectations of an automatic spot. Don't see what's wrong woth ambition. This small dog mentality is what is bollocks. Oooh no we have to play Bolton now. Pathetic. Not sure why you keep banging on about Leicester? No comparisons between us whatsoever. And being a ‘bigger team’ means nothing either. Don’t think anyone’s scared of playing Bolton but it’s another strong team who will be challenging for promotion and likely accumulating a lot of points over the season. No problem with ambition when it’s grounded in reality. You don’t seem to be basing anything on the actual reality of where we currently are as a club though? We should enter league 1 with the same attitude and mentality they entered the Championship. That was the whole point. You tell me where we are as a club? I believe we are financially secure and we are probably one of the wealthier clubs in League 1. I also believe we have some of the best facilities in League 1. I really don't understand what's wrong with a positive attitude for a change. |
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Post by goodbet on May 19, 2024 11:10:59 GMT 1
What do you mean bigger fish? By name? In the last 10 seasons, only we will have been in the PL that is now in League 1. That to me puts us as the biggest club in there. We should have high expectations of an automatic spot. Don't see what's wrong woth ambition. This small dog mentality is what is bollocks. Oooh no we have to play Bolton now. Pathetic. Our owner has, if he wishes to invest, a large sum. We should be selling enough season cards to produce some of the bigger home gates in the division this year. We have a manager who got really close to promotion with a lot less avaialable to him in this division. We have a decent amount of time this summer to sort out the issues and end up with a squad that he wants and can use and has time with, with the added advantage of at least being able to compete for the better players who want to play in this division. The truth is we should be a more attractive proposition for the better players in lg1 than we would be in the championship. I know its no guarantee of success but a little more expectation isnt a bad thing.. We are supposed to be confident and progressive in that manner, believing and showing that belief isnt a bad thing. Id like to start this next season with at least a little swagger and confidence that we are going to be one of the teams to beat if you want to challenge at the top, its unlikely with a billionaire American owner, who likes to have his say, and our just coming down that we could sneak a good season under the radar. Prepare properly for it, play it like we mean it.. UTT... I don't mind optimism but I prefer to wait for any actions to be shown as positive before I get carried away. It was only in January someone said that we had the best January window ever and we have seen where that one got us. If we go back to the last year with all the video's saying all sorts of positives and we still slipped in to a lower league. I am hopeful but I don't expect too much based on past experience. |
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Post by Henry Mcgee on May 19, 2024 11:16:18 GMT 1
Brest just need to better Lille's result tonight and Steve Mounie's playing Champions League next season. Still starts pretty much every week for them.
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Post by detox on May 19, 2024 11:46:17 GMT 1
Brest just need to better Lille's result tonight and Steve Mounie's playing Champions League next season. Still starts pretty much every week for them. Gosh..I was just about to post something similar about Brest. Could be goal difference if they both win orlose..Brests is 2 worse. Brest have had a great season |
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Post by htafcokay on May 19, 2024 12:33:01 GMT 1
Negativity is why we are where we are? How do you work that out? What does it even mean? There’s been far bigger fish than us in L1 in recent years so let’s not make out we’re something special to anyone there. Bit of humility, take our L1 medicine and hopefully come back a better run club and a better football team. Enough with the ‘we should be pissing this league’ bollocks. Bar two remarkable seasons we’ve been shite for years. It’s as if saying ‘we’ll win the league by Xmas’ will make it so. Will it bollocks. What do you mean bigger fish? By name? In the last 10 seasons, only we will have been in the PL that is now in League 1. That to me puts us as the biggest club in there. We should have high expectations of an automatic spot. Don't see what's wrong woth ambition. This small dog mentality is what is bollocks. Oooh no we have to play Bolton now. Pathetic. We will be one of the biggest clubs in that division, but it doesn't mean we'll be anywhere near good enough to come back up. Play-offs should be the absolute minimum, but I have no confidence we'll be anywhere near that with this current squad. If a sledgehammer is taken to the squad, and Duff is allowed to bring his own players in, then I might change my mind. But if he has to work with the squad that relegated us, then I think some people will be in for a shock. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 19, 2024 12:49:03 GMT 1
Our owner has, if he wishes to invest, a large sum. We should be selling enough season cards to produce some of the bigger home gates in the division this year. We have a manager who got really close to promotion with a lot less avaialable to him in this division. We have a decent amount of time this summer to sort out the issues and end up with a squad that he wants and can use and has time with, with the added advantage of at least being able to compete for the better players who want to play in this division. The truth is we should be a more attractive proposition for the better players in lg1 than we would be in the championship. I know its no guarantee of success but a little more expectation isnt a bad thing.. We are supposed to be confident and progressive in that manner, believing and showing that belief isnt a bad thing. Id like to start this next season with at least a little swagger and confidence that we are going to be one of the teams to beat if you want to challenge at the top, its unlikely with a billionaire American owner, who likes to have his say, and our just coming down that we could sneak a good season under the radar. Prepare properly for it, play it like we mean it.. UTT... I don't mind optimism but I prefer to wait for any actions to be shown as positive before I get carried away. It was only in January someone said that we had the best January window ever and we have seen where that one got us. If we go back to the last year with all the video's saying all sorts of positives and we still slipped in to a lower league. I am hopeful but I don't expect too much based on past experience. I am awaiting keeping hold of the few that we want to hold onto and the ability of the club to shift on those that they dont want. We will then see the ambition etc in new arrivals. Once done in a timely fashion, lets see? |
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Post by tepidterrier on May 19, 2024 12:51:15 GMT 1
Rowe (released) starts for Crewe at Wembley. Austerfield (retained) is on the bench
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Post by k1man999 on May 19, 2024 12:54:02 GMT 1
Rowe (released) starts for Crewe at Wembley. Austerfield (retained) is on the bench Austerfield only retained as still has a contract. I'd be surprised if he is still here end of transfer window. |
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Post by Kirchenglocken on May 19, 2024 13:03:28 GMT 1
Curious how Addai gets on. Not sure I would trust him as our no.1 but pretty sure he is out of contract. Probably more suited to a team looking to play which I imagine we will do in spells rather than as a blueprint next season.
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Post by dm on May 19, 2024 13:16:22 GMT 1
Rowe (released) starts for Crewe at Wembley. Austerfield (retained) is on the bench They play different positions, I know we're used to players playing out of position but I think other teams prefer specialists in each position where possible. |
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Post by utttrooper on May 19, 2024 13:23:19 GMT 1
Well done to Sheikh Mansour for successfully buying the title again. UAE all the way. As much as people hate City. Can you explain 'bought the league' Their defence cost less than what United paid for Maguire. Their front 4 cost less than what United paid for Anthony. They have actually bought really well. They are 5th in spending over the last 3 years. Have you forgotten about Jack Grealish, Kyle Walker and Gvardiol alone cost £122m, KDB and Rodri both cost around £60m, Ederson at the time was the world record for a keeper, Benjamin Mendy and Aymeric Laporte were at least £90m combined, Dias cost about £70-80m, Nunes cost £50-60m just to warm the bench |
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Post by tepidterrier on May 19, 2024 13:33:45 GMT 1
Rowe (released) starts for Crewe at Wembley. Austerfield (retained) is on the bench They play different positions, I know we're used to players playing out of position but I think other teams prefer specialists in each position where possible. I would prefer having a specialist centre mid who is good enough to get into a League 2 side on the books, but ho hum! |
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Post by joek on May 19, 2024 13:35:52 GMT 1
Not sure why you keep banging on about Leicester? No comparisons between us whatsoever. And being a ‘bigger team’ means nothing either. Don’t think anyone’s scared of playing Bolton but it’s another strong team who will be challenging for promotion and likely accumulating a lot of points over the season. No problem with ambition when it’s grounded in reality. You don’t seem to be basing anything on the actual reality of where we currently are as a club though? We should enter league 1 with the same attitude and mentality they entered the Championship. That was the whole point. You tell me where we are as a club? I believe we are financially secure and we are probably one of the wealthier clubs in League 1. I also believe we have some of the best facilities in League 1. I really don't understand what's wrong with a positive attitude for a change. We’re a club coming off the back of two rancid rancid seasons in the Championship with a cobbled together squad that have underperformed (or maybe just performed to their level) for a long time now. We’re a club that seem unable to keep large parts of said squad fit for long periods of time, with many contracted players returning from long-term injury layoffs. We’re a club that under new ownership has underperformed in the transfer market for the previous two windows and the previous regime did the same post play-offs. We’re a club that has strikers that don’t score, midfielders that can’t pass and ageing centre-halves whose performances have diminished season upon season. We’re a club that previous managers have stated is lacking leaders and the most recent boss said were riven by dressing room cliques. We’re a club whose value of their most saleable assets has decreased significantly with relegation and who have question marks over their attitude. Yes, we have a new manager that I am optimistic about. Yes, we have a chairman who at this stage seems willing to lose millions of pounds of money for no obvious reason. These are reasons to be positive. And I’m hopeful for a good season. But is this guaranteed? No. Is it justified? No. Just because we were in the Prem 5 seasons ago means the square root of nothing. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 19, 2024 13:43:47 GMT 1
Brilliant goal Orsi, Crawley looking good!
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Post by Kenny irons on May 19, 2024 13:45:18 GMT 1
Seems like Liam Kelly is finally kicking on, looks a nice intricate little player for Crawley
The right back at Crawley is also out of contract as put some great balls into the box Kellan Gordon
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 19, 2024 13:49:37 GMT 1
Seems like Liam Kelly is finally kicking on, looks a nice intricate little player for Crawley The right back at Crawley is also out of contract as put some great balls into the box Kellan Gordon Gordon has generally impressed me most times I’ve seen him play over the last 2-3 seasons. Better going forward than defensively, could be OK as a wing back but not as a defensive right back. |
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Post by alanalanleeee on May 19, 2024 13:55:46 GMT 1
This Crawley team would beat our lot for sure, very organised and that Orsi looks class
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Post by Marshleeds on May 19, 2024 14:12:46 GMT 1
SkyTV are going to look a bit foolish if Arsenal do the unexpected and win the Prem today as their 3 x Main Game Choices are City, Liverpool and Chelsea?
Preference for Klopp’s Farewell Game and Chelsea’s Euro Challenge rather than Arsenal’s potential Title Party Poop?
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Post by Tiro on May 19, 2024 14:13:44 GMT 1
Dreadful from Long. Both touch and dive.
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Post by Sio on May 19, 2024 14:14:07 GMT 1
Why on earth has he dived there?
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on May 19, 2024 14:14:24 GMT 1
Now that is a great example of VAR working! Come on Crawley!
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on May 19, 2024 14:15:30 GMT 1
Anyone explain why he hasn't been booked for diving? Another ref just ignoring the rules
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Post by Terrier Ramone on May 19, 2024 14:21:20 GMT 1
What do you mean bigger fish? By name? In the last 10 seasons, only we will have been in the PL that is now in League 1. That to me puts us as the biggest club in there. We should have high expectations of an automatic spot. Don't see what's wrong woth ambition. This small dog mentality is what is bollocks. Oooh no we have to play Bolton now. Pathetic. Not sure why you keep banging on about Leicester? No comparisons between us whatsoever. And being a ‘bigger team’ means nothing either. Don’t think anyone’s scared of playing Bolton but it’s another strong team who will be challenging for promotion and likely accumulating a lot of points over the season. No problem with ambition when it’s grounded in reality. You don’t seem to be basing anything on the actual reality of where we currently are as a club though?[/quote] We currently have Nicholls, Helik, Thomas & Rudoni, who we should be able to sell for at least £6m, I don't think there are too many teams who will be in League 1 next season who can say that. We also have an owner who spent £4m in the last transfer window, & I know for a fact noone in League 1 next season did that. We also have an owner who I believe will continue to back us with further funds til we get it right. We were relegated last season but just about anyone in the bottom 10 could have gone, there was very little in it. The difference between the Championship is big - yes, Ipswich were unreal but both Plymouth & Wendies, who both got over 90 pts, really struggled & both nearly went down. We now have a manager who has a really good record in the lower leagues. We have just released a striker deemed not good enough for us who scored 15 goals in League 1, at a rate of 1 every 2 games. The last time Rudoni played in League 1 the scored 12 goals. A bigger budget does not always mean success is guaranteed, but the reasons above are where we are as a club & they are exactly why we should be going in full of confidence & fearing noone. If you polled the bookies & every other teams' fans in the division, I bet the vast majority would have us as title contenders. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on May 19, 2024 14:21:28 GMT 1
Dreadful from Long. Both touch and dive. The crap touch made the dive inevitable??? It would have worked without that 'pesky var'..? |
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