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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 26, 2016 19:49:54 GMT 1
Day now ruined as weeds go above us, omg There's no justice in this world Nick. Speaking of which, I'm voting for Honey G later. A same here mate , and carol voderman to win jungle game. |
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Post by royrace on Nov 26, 2016 19:52:37 GMT 1
cue danny ward nahki wells swap speculation in the examiner on monday...... Who would have thought after we destroyed them at elland road they'd be above us in November. Unbelievable, their good run is actually more spectacular than our bad run. Anyway three points on Monday, back to winning ways and we can start to look forward to a town Leeds play off final. However well they do I'll never forget that comical, embarrassing interview from Monk, what a Muppet. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards |
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Post by impact on Nov 26, 2016 19:57:03 GMT 1
Top dive from Roofe
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Nov 26, 2016 19:59:03 GMT 1
Think that's what the problem is, everyone seems to see it aside from the person who actually needs to acknowledge it!!! Not sure what this means? Wagner has quite bluntly stated set pieces are an issue. Unless we have another massive issue...I suspect that it's a veiled reference to the fact that DW said we don't need to score lots of goals. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 20:00:26 GMT 1
Danny Ward looks like he's worth double what Nahki Wells is...can we do a Wells+£2m offer in January. Every time I've seen him this season he's been on fire. Shame he carried that back injury the last 2 years or so, as now he's finally fit he looks like a really special player....pace, strength, strong in the air, brilliant first touch, and can hit a ball hard...would love to see him in a team supported by Kachunga and Palmer, as opposed to this crappy Rotherham squad. There's 2 posters on here who would disagree with you because they don't like it up em! Maybe we should go for Matmour instead? I can't really understand what you're on about. However, to be clear, Danny Ward was increasingly ineffectual for us....and now he is a much better player, comfortably better than any player we have to play the striking role in our system. Not sure how anyone could disagree with that....unless theyve not watched him this season, and go on their memory of how he played for us. He was injured long term, and now he isn't. He was poor then, now he isn't. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Nov 26, 2016 20:31:24 GMT 1
Sixth position going into the Wigan game now.
Rotherham 1-2 Leeds
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Post by wtd on Nov 26, 2016 20:36:52 GMT 1
There's 2 posters on here who would disagree with you because they don't like it up em! Maybe we should go for Matmour instead? I can't really understand what you're on about. However, to be clear, Danny Ward was increasingly ineffectual for us....and now he is a much better player, comfortably better than any player we have to play the striking role in our system. Not sure how anyone could disagree with that....unless theyve not watched him this season, and go on their memory of how he played for us. He was injured long term, and now he isn't. He was poor then, now he isn't. Bingo! But not simply injured... he couldn't be arsed to get himself fit. Now he has and he is benefitting from that. It is indisputable that he had far more poor games than good one's at Town. He's finally found some proper form and fair play to him. Now looking more like the player we thought we were buying from Bolton. PS. Sorry to dissapoint on the 'ruffled feathers' front, Mel.  |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 26, 2016 20:40:19 GMT 1
Not sure what this means? Wagner has quite bluntly stated set pieces are an issue. Unless we have another massive issue...I suspect that it's a veiled reference to the fact that DW said we don't need to score lots of goals. My bit was because the last I saw Wagner said he didn't think they were a problem for us. I hadn't/haven't seen him say they are but I didn't look at owt after the last game Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards |
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Post by impact on Nov 26, 2016 20:41:44 GMT 1
Leeds are the luckiest team in the world. How that scramble didn't go in I'll never know.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 26, 2016 20:42:37 GMT 1
Speculating that ward is better than what we've got upfront is just that ... He plays for Rotherham .. he's scored a few goals .. let's just leave it there
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Post by El Mel on Nov 26, 2016 20:42:51 GMT 1
I can't really understand what you're on about. However, to be clear, Danny Ward was increasingly ineffectual for us....and now he is a much better player, comfortably better than any player we have to play the striking role in our system. Not sure how anyone could disagree with that....unless theyve not watched him this season, and go on their memory of how he played for us. He was injured long term, and now he isn't. He was poor then, now he isn't. Bingo! But not simply injured... he couldn't be arsed to get himself fit. Now he has and he is benefitting from that. It is indisputable that he had far more poor games than good one's at Town. He's finally found some proper form and fair play to him. Now looking more like the player we thought we were buying from Bolton. PS. Sorry to dissapoint on the 'ruffled feathers' front, Mel. x |
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Post by E4b on Nov 26, 2016 20:43:16 GMT 1
There's 2 posters on here who would disagree with you because they don't like it up em! Maybe we should go for Matmour instead? I can't really understand what you're on about. However, to be clear, Danny Ward was increasingly ineffectual for us....and now he is a much better player, comfortably better than any player we have to play the striking role in our system. Not sure how anyone could disagree with that....unless theyve not watched him this season, and go on their memory of how he played for us. He was injured long term, and now he isn't. He was poor then, now he isn't. I always rated him as one of our best players. The lad has skill, quality and pace, always has had. What I still find incredibly hard to believe, is how Deano could spend a million on him and then give him away for nowt! I know Powell didn't get the best out of him or most of the others in the squad but he always had a goal in him. I will be very surprised to see him playing for Rotherham the second half of the season. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 20:54:16 GMT 1
I can't really understand what you're on about. However, to be clear, Danny Ward was increasingly ineffectual for us....and now he is a much better player, comfortably better than any player we have to play the striking role in our system. Not sure how anyone could disagree with that....unless theyve not watched him this season, and go on their memory of how he played for us. He was injured long term, and now he isn't. He was poor then, now he isn't. Bingo! But not simply injured... he couldn't be arsed to get himself fit. Now he has and he is benefitting from that. It is indisputable that he had far more poor games than good one's at Town. He's finally found some proper form and fair play to him. Now looking more like the player we thought we were buying from Bolton. PS. Sorry to dissapoint on the 'ruffled feathers' front, Mel. Intrigued on the "couldn't be arsed"...where does that come from? What I've heard and read (and i think also mentioned on commentary tonight), is he has had some kind of long term back injury that hadn't been effectively diagnosed and treated until relatively recently. Some injuries need more than getting off your backside to be cleared. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 26, 2016 20:56:42 GMT 1
Speculating that ward is better than what we've got upfront is just that ... He plays for Rotherham .. he's scored a few goals .. let's just leave it there Have you watched him? There's no speculation about it. |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 26, 2016 21:20:33 GMT 1
I can't really understand what you're on about. However, to be clear, Danny Ward was increasingly ineffectual for us....and now he is a much better player, comfortably better than any player we have to play the striking role in our system. Not sure how anyone could disagree with that....unless theyve not watched him this season, and go on their memory of how he played for us. He was injured long term, and now he isn't. He was poor then, now he isn't. I always rated him as one of our best players. The lad has skill, quality and pace, always has had. What I still find incredibly hard to believe, is how Deano could spend a million on him and then give him away for nowt! I know Powell didn't get the best out of him or most of the others in the squad but he always had a goal in him. I will be very surprised to see him playing for Rotherham the second half of the season. Really ?!! Can't think why you've never ever mentioned it before  ;D Sent from my SM-G900F using proboards |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 26, 2016 21:29:02 GMT 1
Sixth position going into the Wigan game now. Rotherham 1-2 Leeds How very poor they both were. Nowhere near the standard of football we were playing on our good run. All we need to do is find that again. |
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Post by wtd on Nov 26, 2016 21:29:31 GMT 1
Bingo! But not simply injured... he couldn't be arsed to get himself fit. Now he has and he is benefitting from that. It is indisputable that he had far more poor games than good one's at Town. He's finally found some proper form and fair play to him. Now looking more like the player we thought we were buying from Bolton. PS. Sorry to dissapoint on the 'ruffled feathers' front, Mel. Intrigued on the "couldn't be arsed"...where does that come from? What I've heard and read (and i think also mentioned on commentary tonight), is he has had some kind of long term back injury that hadn't been effectively diagnosed and treated until relatively recently. Some injuries need more than getting off your backside to be cleared. A bad back is a bad back and I have plenty of sympathy on that score. His weight wasn't about a bad back... it was about diet and desire. He was still able to play with his bad back, remember... he should still have been able to get himself in better shape than he was doing. He wanted to blame it on Town managers and never took responsibility for himself. He went to Rotherham and instantly he was made to lose weight by Steve Evans. What happens then? His back gets better and he starts to perform. He says it himself... linkI think Danny Ward could have been a very good player for us if he'd applied himself properly. He's finally seen the light and good luck to him. |
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Post by space hardware on Nov 26, 2016 21:34:59 GMT 1
Sixth position going into the Wigan game now. Rotherham 1-2 Leeds How very poor they both were. Nowhere near the standard of football we were playing on our good run. All we need to do is find that again. Leeds huffed and puffed to beat a really crap side. I hope we do the same on Monday. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 26, 2016 21:36:30 GMT 1
Danny Ward looks like he's worth double what Nahki Wells is...can we do a Wells+£2m offer in January. Every time I've seen him this season he's been on fire. Shame he carried that back injury the last 2 years or so, as now he's finally fit he looks like a really special player....pace, strength, strong in the air, brilliant first touch, and can hit a ball hard...would love to see him in a team supported by Kachunga and Palmer, as opposed to this crappy Rotherham squad. Eh - did you see that in him tonight? I always had a bit of a soft spot for him when he was with us, but can't see that he has improved much. |
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Post by townrwe on Nov 26, 2016 21:39:59 GMT 1
Got a feeling our bad runs behind us and we are about to start performing and picking up wins.
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Post by shawsie on Nov 26, 2016 22:07:33 GMT 1
There's 2 posters on here who would disagree with you because they don't like it up em! Maybe we should go for Matmour instead? I can't really understand what you're on about. However, to be clear, Danny Ward was increasingly ineffectual for us....and now he is a much better player, comfortably better than any player we have to play the striking role in our system. Not sure how anyone could disagree with that....unless theyve not watched him this season, and go on their memory of how he played for us. He was injured long term, and now he isn't. He was poor then, now he isn't. In a word - rubbish! He always had ability, but a lack of fitness and application always held him back - maybe the penny has dropped, I hope it has for his sake. He was poor for us for years......not a third of a season or a dozen games or whatever but years and in the league below for most of it! |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 26, 2016 22:08:58 GMT 1
Think that's what the problem is, everyone seems to see it aside from the person who actually needs to acknowledge it!!! Not sure what this means? Wagner has quite bluntly stated set pieces are an issue. Unless we have another massive issue... Yes we do, goalscoring, a new striker is needed which Wagner seems indifferent to. |
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Post by shawsie on Nov 26, 2016 22:16:27 GMT 1
Not sure what this means? Wagner has quite bluntly stated set pieces are an issue. Unless we have another massive issue... Yes we do, goalscoring, a new striker is needed which Wagner seems indifferent to. I don't think anyone would deny we need an alternative striking option......but it won't matter if we sign aguero if we continue to defend like the last 3 away games!!!!! If we sort out the piss poor defending we will be fine - 17 games in and I've been to all except Fulham. We were shocking defensively at Cardiff and at Preston first half - that apart I don't think we've done too bad and it's a few tweaks needed/bounce of the ball/bit of luck etc. If we play anywhere near our best tomorrow I expect us to win - but if we give teams 2 start we won't! The likes of Brighton and Newcastle are better than us - but we have shown at reading, Leeds, home to brum and wed that we are a match for the rest - up to the players now to show it again. |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Nov 26, 2016 22:19:01 GMT 1
Yes we do, goalscoring, a new striker is needed which Wagner seems indifferent to. I don't think anyone would deny we need an alternative striking option......but it won't matter if we sign aguero if we continue to defend like the last 3 away games!!!!! If we sort out the piss poor defending we will be fine - 17 games in and I've been to all except Fulham. We were shocking defensively at Cardiff and at Preston first half - that apart I don't think we've done too bad and it's a few tweaks needed/bounce of the ball/bit of luck etc. If we play anywhere near our best tomorrow I expect us to win - but if we give teams 2 start we won't! The likes of Brighton and Newcastle are better than us - but we have shown at reading, Leeds, home to brum and wed that we are a match for the rest - up to the players now to show it again. If we have Aguero we'd been wining 4-3 every week....but yeah you have a point. It would be nice to know that we might have a chance to get a game back simply by having the ability to outscore our opponents. |
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Post by E4b on Nov 26, 2016 22:20:19 GMT 1
I can't really understand what you're on about. However, to be clear, Danny Ward was increasingly ineffectual for us....and now he is a much better player, comfortably better than any player we have to play the striking role in our system. Not sure how anyone could disagree with that....unless theyve not watched him this season, and go on their memory of how he played for us. He was injured long term, and now he isn't. He was poor then, now he isn't. In a word - rubbish! He always had ability, but a lack of fitness and application always held him back - maybe the penny has dropped, I hope it has for his sake. He was poor for us for years......not a third of a season or a dozen games or whatever but years and in the league below for most of it! I disagree. Glad he's once again showing what he's made of. |
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Post by E4b on Nov 26, 2016 22:21:40 GMT 1
Danny Ward looks like he's worth double what Nahki Wells is...can we do a Wells+£2m offer in January. Every time I've seen him this season he's been on fire. Shame he carried that back injury the last 2 years or so, as now he's finally fit he looks like a really special player....pace, strength, strong in the air, brilliant first touch, and can hit a ball hard...would love to see him in a team supported by Kachunga and Palmer, as opposed to this crappy Rotherham squad. Eh - did you see that in him tonight? I always had a bit of a soft spot for him when he was with us, but can't see that he has improved much. Sky commentators did. |
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Post by shawsie on Nov 26, 2016 22:26:41 GMT 1
I don't think anyone would deny we need an alternative striking option......but it won't matter if we sign aguero if we continue to defend like the last 3 away games!!!!! If we sort out the piss poor defending we will be fine - 17 games in and I've been to all except Fulham. We were shocking defensively at Cardiff and at Preston first half - that apart I don't think we've done too bad and it's a few tweaks needed/bounce of the ball/bit of luck etc. If we play anywhere near our best tomorrow I expect us to win - but if we give teams 2 start we won't! The likes of Brighton and Newcastle are better than us - but we have shown at reading, Leeds, home to brum and wed that we are a match for the rest - up to the players now to show it again. If we have Aguero we'd been wining 4-3 every week....but yeah you have a point. It would be nice to know that we might have a chance to get a game back simply by having the ability to outscore our opponents. We'd have still lost at Fulham chief!!! Agree with your last point.......it's there, but we have to get more from mooy, palmer and the wide lads for the front lads to deliver! |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Nov 26, 2016 23:39:35 GMT 1
Maybe Ward even decided to stop smoking too and dedicate himself for a career as a professional sportsman.
We all saw the glimpses of what he was capable of while a Town player but sadly there were only ever glimpses for us.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Nov 26, 2016 23:46:46 GMT 1
Lee Clark knew what he was doing when he signed Danny Ward, very good player, he would bag every week in our team, shame we got rid.
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 26, 2016 23:54:29 GMT 1
Lee Clark knew what he was doing when he signed Danny Ward, very good player, he would bag every week in our team, shame we got rid. Would you re sign him then ? He looks fitter, he used to like his maccy Dee's. |
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