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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 27, 2016 0:21:34 GMT 1
Eh - did you see that in him tonight? I always had a bit of a soft spot for him when he was with us, but can't see that he has improved much. Sky commentators did. Vital source of evidence that lot. Prefer to look and decide for myself. We are now down to 6th - but Reading, Birmingham and Leeds look very weak to me and have played nothing like the quality of football we did on our run. Not sure why so many supporters seem a bit weak kneed about holding our own or rising above these teams even to the extent of worrying which part of mid table we end up in. Hope the squad and manager aren't breathing in the fear and negativity. |
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Post by trailingleg on Nov 27, 2016 1:16:16 GMT 1
The big teams are starting to come the table now, we need to start getting results again otherwise we will end up like Barnsley slipping down the table We are slipping down the table! |
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Post by E4b on Nov 27, 2016 11:58:26 GMT 1
Maybe Ward even decided to stop smoking too and dedicate himself for a career as a professional sportsman. We all saw the glimpses of what he was capable of while a Town player but sadly there were only ever glimpses for us. Good grief, someone told me they saw him picking his nose once too! There have been many great players over the years who smoked. Anyone remember Bobby Charlton? |
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Post by E4b on Nov 27, 2016 12:02:15 GMT 1
Vital source of evidence that lot. Prefer to look and decide for myself. We are now down to 6th - but Reading, Birmingham and Leeds look very weak to me and have played nothing like the quality of football we did on our run. Not sure why so many supporters seem a bit weak kneed about holding our own or rising above these teams even to the extent of worrying which part of mid table we end up in. Hope the squad and manager aren't breathing in the fear and negativity. Yes of course, the sky commentators/pundits don't know what they're on about do they? They've probably never even kicked a ball before have they. Maybe they should employ celebrities who eat maggots and stuff in the Australian woods instead? Fact is Wardy is back to his best, like it or lump it! |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 27, 2016 12:18:08 GMT 1
Vital source of evidence that lot. Prefer to look and decide for myself. We are now down to 6th - but Reading, Birmingham and Leeds look very weak to me and have played nothing like the quality of football we did on our run. Not sure why so many supporters seem a bit weak kneed about holding our own or rising above these teams even to the extent of worrying which part of mid table we end up in. Hope the squad and manager aren't breathing in the fear and negativity. Yes of course, the sky commentators/pundits don't know what they're on about do they? They've probably never even kicked a ball before have they. Maybe they should employ celebrities who eat maggots and stuff in the Australian woods instead? Fact is Wardy is back to his best, like it or lump it! Let me explain it again. Rotherham's problem is defending. As we get further along in the season and Rotherham get more desperate and more defensive - the chances will dry up for Wardy. I agree he has improved since he has slimmed down but I see nothing special in him. That Bogle looks well worth a punt though. Ideal and what we need I think. Initially as plan B for Nahki and pretty soon after maybe plan A if he can get up to speed for the Chapionship. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 27, 2016 12:29:53 GMT 1
Speculating that ward is better than what we've got upfront is just that ... He plays for Rotherham .. he's scored a few goals .. let's just leave it there Have you watched him? There's no speculation about it. So you are now a season ticket holder at Rotherham in addition to all your other interests ? Bizarre |
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Post by rothwellterrier on Nov 27, 2016 13:56:02 GMT 1
Maybe Ward even decided to stop smoking too and dedicate himself for a career as a professional sportsman. We all saw the glimpses of what he was capable of while a Town player but sadly there were only ever glimpses for us. Good grief, someone told me they saw him picking his nose once too! There have been many great players over the years who smoked. Anyone remember Bobby Charlton? He liked his drink too, but no doubt you'll just say George Best did as well. I fail to see how you can compare footballers from a bygone era to the modern day in terms of fitness and looking after their bodies. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 27, 2016 16:08:23 GMT 1
Have you watched him? There's no speculation about it. So you are now a season ticket holder at Rotherham in addition to all your other interests ? Bizarre No, what an incredulous suggestion. I do have a TV though. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 27, 2016 16:15:27 GMT 1
So you are now a season ticket holder at Rotherham in addition to all your other interests ? Bizarre No, what an incredulous suggestion. I do have a TV though. So .. based on little snippets you've seen on tv.. and maybe one ( or two ) live games you are in a position to make the claim as an absolute certainty that DW is a better option for town in the striking role than NW and EK ? For certain ? Totally discounting his performances when he played for us whilst at the same time discounting the fact NW didn't have a pre season this season .. Oh and also the fact that EK is five times the player of ward . But carry on talking nonsense by all means .. sorry who does Ward play for again ? Oh yeah that's right ... Rotherham .. |
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Post by BottomLip on Nov 27, 2016 16:34:09 GMT 1
No, what an incredulous suggestion. I do have a TV though. So .. based on little snippets you've seen on tv.. and maybe one ( or two ) live games you are in a position to make the claim as an absolute certainty that DW is a better option for town in the striking role than NW and EK ? For certain ? Totally discounting his performances when he played for us whilst at the same time discounting the fact NW didn't have a pre season this season .. Oh and also the fact that EK is five times the player of ward . But carry on talking nonsense by all means .. sorry who does Ward play for again ? Oh yeah that's right ... Rotherham .. I'm going to agree with you that Ward is not as good as Wells or Kachunga, but don't base a players ability to the club they're currently at, it is quite belittling if I'm honest. Grimsby are in League 2, but I see a better player in Omar Bogle than I do Nahki Wells, Bradley Dack is better than one or two of our midfielders and remind me where he's at? That's right Gillingham |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 27, 2016 16:54:29 GMT 1
So .. based on little snippets you've seen on tv.. and maybe one ( or two ) live games you are in a position to make the claim as an absolute certainty that DW is a better option for town in the striking role than NW and EK ? For certain ? Totally discounting his performances when he played for us whilst at the same time discounting the fact NW didn't have a pre season this season .. Oh and also the fact that EK is five times the player of ward . But carry on talking nonsense by all means .. sorry who does Ward play for again ? Oh yeah that's right ... Rotherham .. I'm going to agree with you that Ward is not as good as Wells or Kachunga, but don't base a players ability to the club they're currently at, it is quite belittling if I'm honest. Grimsby are in League 2, but I see a better player in Omar Bogle than I do Nahki Wells, Bradley Dack is better than one or two of our midfielders and remind me where he's at? That's right Gillingham Yeah but he's not at Rotherham cos he got a "calling " . Hes at Rotherham cos all the teams who pay higher wages than Rotherham didn't want to buy him judged on his performances for town ... And he was certainly at town long enough for professional talent spotters to form an opinion .. now he MAY have improved and he may improve further and end up at a club who pay more. If so good luck to the kid .. but at present based on what I've seen I'm saying that funkymagic. NT , Nigel etc is talking absolute baloney |
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Post by BottomLip on Nov 27, 2016 17:11:34 GMT 1
I'm going to agree with you that Ward is not as good as Wells or Kachunga, but don't base a players ability to the club they're currently at, it is quite belittling if I'm honest. Grimsby are in League 2, but I see a better player in Omar Bogle than I do Nahki Wells, Bradley Dack is better than one or two of our midfielders and remind me where he's at? That's right Gillingham Yeah but he's not at Rotherham cos he got a "calling " . Hes at Rotherham cos all the teams who pay higher wages than Rotherham didn't want to buy him judged on his performances for town ... And he was certainly at town long enough for professional talent spotters to form an opinion .. now he MAY have improved and he may improve further and end up at a club who pay more. If so good luck to the kid .. but at present based on what I've seen I'm saying that funkymagic. NT , Nigel etc is talking absolute baloney Some players just don't work out at certain clubs, I think he has developed his game very very well, he's now an actual striker, here he was and mainly has been a winger and then maybe a striker if needed in circumstances. He looks fitter and stronger, plus he's still relatively young. It just didn't work here for reasons only he knows, but on current form you'd take him over Wells as a neutral that's for sure. Kachunga? Most definitely not as his game is very well rounded. Kachunga has progressed, same said for Ward,where it looks lime Nahki has regressed. I know you're thinking it with a Town head on, but as a neutral perspective at this moment in time Ward is a stand out player in a very bad team and quite a lot of clubs would have him at their club come January. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Nov 27, 2016 19:30:35 GMT 1
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Nov 27, 2016 19:40:42 GMT 1
So .. based on little snippets you've seen on tv.. and maybe one ( or two ) live games you are in a position to make the claim as an absolute certainty that DW is a better option for town in the striking role than NW and EK ? For certain ? Totally discounting his performances when he played for us whilst at the same time discounting the fact NW didn't have a pre season this season .. Oh and also the fact that EK is five times the player of ward . But carry on talking nonsense by all means .. sorry who does Ward play for again ? Oh yeah that's right ... Rotherham .. I'm going to agree with you that Ward is not as good as Wells or Kachunga, but don't base a players ability to the club they're currently at, it is quite belittling if I'm honest. Grimsby are in League 2, but I see a better player in Omar Bogle than I do Nahki Wells, Bradley Dack is better than one or two of our midfielders and remind me where he's at? That's right Gillingham Just out of interest, which of our midfielders would you drop to include Bradly Dack? I see a potentially better player in Bogle but far from certain that he would come through at top Championship level. Worth a punt if the right price. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Nov 27, 2016 20:40:22 GMT 1
Bradley Dack's form has been very disappointing all season according to my Gills supporting mate. Doesn't mean he's not a decent player though, just having a bad patch.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Nov 27, 2016 21:56:43 GMT 1
Yeah but he's not at Rotherham cos he got a "calling " . Hes at Rotherham cos all the teams who pay higher wages than Rotherham didn't want to buy him judged on his performances for town ... And he was certainly at town long enough for professional talent spotters to form an opinion .. now he MAY have improved and he may improve further and end up at a club who pay more. If so good luck to the kid .. but at present based on what I've seen I'm saying that funkymagic. NT , Nigel etc is talking absolute baloney Some players just don't work out at certain clubs, I think he has developed his game very very well, he's now an actual striker, here he was and mainly has been a winger and then maybe a striker if needed in circumstances. He looks fitter and stronger, plus he's still relatively young. It just didn't work here for reasons only he knows, but on current form you'd take him over Wells as a neutral that's for sure. Kachunga? Most definitely not as his game is very well rounded. Kachunga has progressed, same said for Ward,where it looks lime Nahki has regressed. I know you're thinking it with a Town head on, but as a neutral perspective at this moment in time Ward is a stand out player in a very bad team and quite a lot of clubs would have him at their club come January. Well.... Lets see who DOES come in for him in January .. and who comes in for Wells.. I prefer to take a sample base of over ten games ( seen in clips ) when assessing a player . |
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Post by BottomLip on Nov 28, 2016 9:41:11 GMT 1
I'm going to agree with you that Ward is not as good as Wells or Kachunga, but don't base a players ability to the club they're currently at, it is quite belittling if I'm honest. Grimsby are in League 2, but I see a better player in Omar Bogle than I do Nahki Wells, Bradley Dack is better than one or two of our midfielders and remind me where he's at? That's right Gillingham Just out of interest, which of our midfielders would you drop to include Bradly Dack? I see a potentially better player in Bogle but far from certain that he would come through at top Championship level. Worth a punt if the right price. Not necessarily saying Dack is better than our starting ones, but one or two who fill up the bench numbers yes. I get Dack hasn't been flying this season and I'm going to put it down to Gillingham snubbing bids left right and centre for him |
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Post by Grandfather Berty of Cleck on Nov 28, 2016 9:49:28 GMT 1
Bradley Dack's form has been very disappointing all season according to my Gills supporting mate. Doesn't mean he's not a decent player though, just having a bad patch. That's quite a patch though. |
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Post by keithAM11532 on Dec 2, 2016 22:03:17 GMT 1
The Toon down to 9 men already
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Dec 2, 2016 22:39:12 GMT 1
... and losing now, 2-1 And Forest missed two penalties in 13 first half minutes. How many have we had this season?  |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Dec 3, 2016 0:01:06 GMT 1
Vital source of evidence that lot. Prefer to look and decide for myself. We are now down to 6th - but Reading, Birmingham and Leeds look very weak to me and have played nothing like the quality of football we did on our run. Not sure why so many supporters seem a bit weak kneed about holding our own or rising above these teams even to the extent of worrying which part of mid table we end up in. Hope the squad and manager aren't breathing in the fear and negativity. You obviously don't think much of the squad and manager. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Dec 3, 2016 0:26:20 GMT 1
Vital source of evidence that lot. Prefer to look and decide for myself. We are now down to 6th - but Reading, Birmingham and Leeds look very weak to me and have played nothing like the quality of football we did on our run. Not sure why so many supporters seem a bit weak kneed about holding our own or rising above these teams even to the extent of worrying which part of mid table we end up in. Hope the squad and manager aren't breathing in the fear and negativity. You obviously don't think much of the squad and manager. Not sure how you got 5 from 2+2. |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Dec 3, 2016 0:43:09 GMT 1
You obviously don't think much of the squad and manager. Not sure how you got 5 from 2+2. It is disrepspectful to suggest they may be feeble minded and unprofessional enough to be affected by anything posted here. |
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Post by kennyk2 on Dec 3, 2016 14:06:18 GMT 1
Louis Moult - Motherwell. Ex-Stoke, scored a couple of really good goals against Celtic today. Not a bad goals to games ratio. Perhaps the type of striker we should be looking at.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Dec 3, 2016 14:11:24 GMT 1
Not sure how you got 5 from 2+2. It is disrepspectful to suggest they may be feeble minded and unprofessional enough to be affected by anything posted here. Wasn't talking about that at all. But now you mention it DW himself extols the virtue and positive effect of the crowd and atmosphere on the team performance, and so vice versa must apply. |
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Post by Manx Terrier on Dec 3, 2016 17:02:08 GMT 1
It is disrepspectful to suggest they may be feeble minded and unprofessional enough to be affected by anything posted here. Wasn't talking about that at all. But now you mention it DW himself extols the virtue and positive effect of the crowd and atmosphere on the team performance, and so vice versa must apply. Obviously a positive crowd atmosphere at matches will help enormously. Also a fearful and negative crowd won't help. If we can agree that positive or fearful and egative posts on here won't make a blind bit of difference then we are in full agreement. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 4, 2016 16:25:56 GMT 1
Wow dint see that result, well done Bornmuff v My second team.
Great game.
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Post by Stewpot on Dec 4, 2016 17:24:34 GMT 1
Wow dint see that result, well done Bornmuff v My second team. Great game. Just watched the post match interview with Herr Klopp. That's how to conduct an interview, very gracious in defeat and very complimentary to Bournemouth. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Dec 4, 2016 17:29:35 GMT 1
Wow dint see that result, well done Bornmuff v My second team. Great game. Just watched the post match interview with Herr Klopp. That's how to conduct an interview, very gracious in defeat and very complimentary to Bournemouth. Love how Klopp was congratulating Their players, a very good sport IMO, like Wagner is. |
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Post by ldotm on Dec 4, 2016 19:00:43 GMT 1
Just out of interest, which of our midfielders would you drop to include Bradly Dack? I see a potentially better player in Bogle but far from certain that he would come through at top Championship level. Worth a punt if the right price. Not necessarily saying Dack is better than our starting ones, but one or two who fill up the bench numbers yes. I get Dack hasn't been flying this season and I'm going to put it down to Gillingham snubbing bids left right and centre for him Yeah agree with this, massive fan of Dack, the past few seasons he's been quality and is a goal scoring midfielder and at only 21/22, still growing as a player. Does seem like he's not started firing this season but I know he had an injury for a bit and I could see him wanting to move, I'll give it until next summer at the latest until he's at a champ club. |
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