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Post by detox on Apr 14, 2021 8:05:38 GMT 1
can we officially say now that everyone is a 'bedwetter', or do we still have a few who have supreme confidence in the players, Carlos and PH to think we're going to stay up ?
Those who have been too blinkered, or deluded, to face the reality of the situation we are in, which we 'bedwetters' were astute enough to recognise some time ago but got derided for our wisdom..will they now come forward and admit they were just deluded idiots ?
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Post by workshyfop on Apr 14, 2021 19:52:15 GMT 1
I see Madrid's bus has had the windows put through, so the usual warm welcome on another special European night at Anfield ...
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Post by Five Lamps on Apr 14, 2021 20:26:20 GMT 1
Good finish from young Bellingham in the Dortmund game
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Post by keithAM11532 on Apr 14, 2021 20:40:17 GMT 1
I see Madrid's bus has had the windows put through, so the usual warm welcome on another special European night at Anfield ... Doesn't seem to have affected them, you have to say their defence is rock solid.
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Post by alexdire on Apr 14, 2021 21:37:54 GMT 1
Well after watching his two games against Man City. I'd be having doubts about paying £85+m for Haaland. He's been anonymous and completely marked out of both games.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 14, 2021 21:55:32 GMT 1
Liverpool go out
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Post by Galpharmer on Apr 14, 2021 21:55:54 GMT 1
Fantastic to see Liverpool go out. Madrid can afford a new bus, let alone a new window with the cash.
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Post by impact on Apr 14, 2021 21:58:17 GMT 1
Well after watching his two games against Man City. I'd be having doubts about paying £85+m for Haaland. He's been anonymous and completely marked out of both games. He's had little of the ball but has held it up really well. Can't say much about him when the opposition dominate possession and he has nothing to go off.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 14, 2021 22:16:53 GMT 1
Didn't see the game, but just seen the equaliser for ManCity in Dortmund tonight in the highlights. Did the question of it being a penalty go to the VAR? If not, then there should have been some intervention. VAR referee clearly not in command of the rules, I wonder how long it would have taken for him to google whether or not a handball offence should be deemed such when the player unintentionally heads the ball against his own arm?
Think I need a beer to stop tutting :-)
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Post by workshyfop on Apr 14, 2021 22:23:29 GMT 1
I see Madrid's bus has had the windows put through, so the usual warm welcome on another special European night at Anfield ... Doesn't seem to have affected them, you have to say their defence is rock solid. Hell of a throw from Hemel Hempstead, Oslo, Dublin, etc., etc.
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Post by harrychrishner on Apr 14, 2021 22:30:18 GMT 1
Didn't see the game, but just seen the equaliser for ManCity in Dortmund tonight in the highlights. Did the question of it being a penalty go to the VAR? If not, then there should have been some intervention. VAR referee clearly not in command of the rules, I wonder how long it would have taken for him to google whether or not a handball offence should be deemed such when the player unintentionally heads the ball against his own arm? Think I need a beer to stop tutting :-) Yeah, VAR was consulted, which brings us to the question once again "what the fuck is VAR all about - get rid!" By the way, when you've stopped TUTTING how about a beer from TITTING? Brauerei Gutmann is excellent.
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Post by canuckterrier on Apr 14, 2021 22:32:02 GMT 1
Didn't see the game, but just seen the equaliser for ManCity in Dortmund tonight in the highlights. Did the question of it being a penalty go to the VAR? If not, then there should have been some intervention. VAR referee clearly not in command of the rules, I wonder how long it would have taken for him to google whether or not a handball offence should be deemed such when the player unintentionally heads the ball against his own arm? Think I need a beer to stop tutting :-) Know what you are saying, but whatever the result of that penalty call was, City were the far better team. And I'm sad to say, I'm really looking forward to the City-PSG bout, although every fibre in my body says this is what football has sadly come to, two wealthy Governments going against each other? I can't believe at my age I've become a bit of a floosy.
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Post by harrychrishner on Apr 14, 2021 22:37:24 GMT 1
Fantastic to see Liverpool go out. Madrid can afford a new bus, let alone a new window with the cash. Real Madrid looking for their 5th European Cup in 8 years. For that reason alone would have been nice to see them go out tonight.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 14, 2021 22:50:17 GMT 1
Didn't see the game, but just seen the equaliser for ManCity in Dortmund tonight in the highlights. Did the question of it being a penalty go to the VAR? If not, then there should have been some intervention. VAR referee clearly not in command of the rules, I wonder how long it would have taken for him to google whether or not a handball offence should be deemed such when the player unintentionally heads the ball against his own arm? Think I need a beer to stop tutting :-) Yes it did, not enough evidence to overturn it. His arm was in an unnatural position, it didn't need to be there for him to head it. Serves him right for diving to win the bin dippers a pen against us 🤬😁
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 14, 2021 22:52:16 GMT 1
Fantastic to see Liverpool go out. Madrid can afford a new bus, let alone a new window with the cash. Real Madrid looking for their 5th European Cup in 8 years. For that reason alone would have been nice to see them go out tonight. It would if they'd been playing any of the other teams left in the competition but not the ones they actually did play 🤣
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 14, 2021 23:03:45 GMT 1
Didn't see the game, but just seen the equaliser for ManCity in Dortmund tonight in the highlights. Did the question of it being a penalty go to the VAR? If not, then there should have been some intervention. VAR referee clearly not in command of the rules, I wonder how long it would have taken for him to google whether or not a handball offence should be deemed such when the player unintentionally heads the ball against his own arm? Think I need a beer to stop tutting :-) Yeah, VAR was consulted, which brings us to the question once again "what the fuck is VAR all about - get rid!" By the way, when you've stopped TUTTING how about a beer from TITTING? Brauerei Gutmann is excellent.
Nah, I'm still just about in favour of VAR, even if it did make me tutt tonight. Titting sounds like a good place for a beer. Did you know that the (Austrian?) town "Fucking" has now changed it's name to "Fugging", because the signposts were always getting stolen? Think Titting might have good cause to rethink their name, too? :-)
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 14, 2021 23:10:56 GMT 1
Didn't see the game, but just seen the equaliser for ManCity in Dortmund tonight in the highlights. Did the question of it being a penalty go to the VAR? If not, then there should have been some intervention. VAR referee clearly not in command of the rules, I wonder how long it would have taken for him to google whether or not a handball offence should be deemed such when the player unintentionally heads the ball against his own arm? Think I need a beer to stop tutting :-) Know what you are saying, but whatever the result of that penalty call was, City were the far better team. And I'm sad to say, I'm really looking forward to the City-PSG bout, although every fibre in my body says this is what football has sadly come to, two wealthy Governments going against each other? I can't believe at my age I've become a bit of a floosy. Yes, I thought City might have been the better side, purely based on the first leg, which I saw. Yes, PSG v ManCity in the semi-finals, don't like it either - Not bothered who wins at all now. Where has the romance of the European Cup gone?
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 14, 2021 23:14:53 GMT 1
Didn't see the game, but just seen the equaliser for ManCity in Dortmund tonight in the highlights. Did the question of it being a penalty go to the VAR? If not, then there should have been some intervention. VAR referee clearly not in command of the rules, I wonder how long it would have taken for him to google whether or not a handball offence should be deemed such when the player unintentionally heads the ball against his own arm? Think I need a beer to stop tutting :-) Yes it did, not enough evidence to overturn it. His arm was in an unnatural position, it didn't need to be there for him to head it. Serves him right for diving to win the bin dippers a pen against us 🤬😁 Bloody hell, you've got a long memory - was it him who dived? Liking the thought of his arm not needing to be there for him to head it on to. All surgeons in need of amputation practice will be rubbing their hands at the thought!! Who needs arms? :-)
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Post by harrychrishner on Apr 14, 2021 23:28:08 GMT 1
Yeah, VAR was consulted, which brings us to the question once again "what the fuck is VAR all about - get rid!" By the way, when you've stopped TUTTING how about a beer from TITTING? Brauerei Gutmann is excellent.
Nah, I'm still just about in favour of VAR, even if it did make me tutt tonight. Titting sounds like a good place for a beer. Did you know that the (Austrian?) town "Fucking" has now changed it's name to "Fugging", because the signposts were always getting stolen? Think Titting might have good cause to rethink their name, too? :-) I remember there being a beer at one time called "Fucking Hell", not sure if it's still being brewed. Another funny one is the mountain in the Bavarian Alps called Wank. There's a shelter for hikers on the summit called the Wankhaus.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 14, 2021 23:44:26 GMT 1
Nah, I'm still just about in favour of VAR, even if it did make me tutt tonight. Titting sounds like a good place for a beer. Did you know that the (Austrian?) town "Fucking" has now changed it's name to "Fugging", because the signposts were always getting stolen? Think Titting might have good cause to rethink their name, too? :-) I remember there being a beer at one time called "Fucking Hell", not sure if it's still being brewed. Another funny one is the mountain in the Bavarian Alps called Wank. There's a shelter for hikers on the summit called the Wankhaus. Get away!! Although, if I think about it, the German verb for "stagger" is "wanken" - so it probably makes sense. Won't stop the tourists stealing the signs though :-)
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Post by impact on Apr 15, 2021 1:50:28 GMT 1
Didn't see the game, but just seen the equaliser for ManCity in Dortmund tonight in the highlights. Did the question of it being a penalty go to the VAR? If not, then there should have been some intervention. VAR referee clearly not in command of the rules, I wonder how long it would have taken for him to google whether or not a handball offence should be deemed such when the player unintentionally heads the ball against his own arm? Think I need a beer to stop tutting :-) It went to VAR and they correctly confirmed the penalty. The player's arm was out and had made his body unnaturally bigger. It then doesn't matter if he heads the ball onto it or not, it's handball either way.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 15, 2021 11:26:34 GMT 1
Didn't see the game, but just seen the equaliser for ManCity in Dortmund tonight in the highlights. Did the question of it being a penalty go to the VAR? If not, then there should have been some intervention. VAR referee clearly not in command of the rules, I wonder how long it would have taken for him to google whether or not a handball offence should be deemed such when the player unintentionally heads the ball against his own arm? Think I need a beer to stop tutting :-) It went to VAR and they correctly confirmed the penalty. The player's arm was out and had made his body unnaturally bigger. It then doesn't matter if he heads the ball onto it or not, it's handball either way. The specialist journals here in Germany are saying it could have gone either way, bizarrely. Dortmund's manager was on the one hand right that managers have been instructed by the governing bodies that deflections onto the arm wouldn't be penalised as a penalty; on the other, yes, maybe his arm shouldn't have been where it was - it made him look slightly clumsy and gave the referee a chance to see a situation in which Can's arm made his body unnaturally bigger. It really seems in this case that it's possible to interpret the rules so as to benefit one's own cause. I wouldn't have given it. Dortmund were chalked off a goal unfairly in the first leg, too. Still tutting :-)
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 15, 2021 12:41:39 GMT 1
It went to VAR and they correctly confirmed the penalty. The player's arm was out and had made his body unnaturally bigger. It then doesn't matter if he heads the ball onto it or not, it's handball either way. The specialist journals here in Germany are saying it could have gone either way, bizarrely. Dortmund's manager was on the one hand right that managers have been instructed by the governing bodies that deflections onto the arm wouldn't be penalised as a penalty; on the other, yes, maybe his arm shouldn't have been where it was - it made him look slightly clumsy and gave the referee a chance to see a situation in which Can's arm made his body unnaturally bigger. It really seems in this case that it's possible to interpret the rules so as to benefit one's own cause. I wouldn't have given it. Dortmund were chalked off a goal unfairly in the first leg, too. Still tutting :-) But if they're saying it could've gone either way they're agreeing with VAR that there wasn't clear and obvious evidence to overturn the refs decision 😉
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 15, 2021 12:58:07 GMT 1
🤣🤣🤣
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Post by tepidterrier on Apr 15, 2021 13:10:19 GMT 1
Grealish, Bellingham, Mount, Foden. it's like the new Lampard Gerrard Beckham and Scholes situation. Reality is England need someone like Dier (although definitely not Dier cos he's shite and hasn't played for England in midfield for a few years anyway) to balance out the midfield.
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Post by impact on Apr 15, 2021 14:17:31 GMT 1
It went to VAR and they correctly confirmed the penalty. The player's arm was out and had made his body unnaturally bigger. It then doesn't matter if he heads the ball onto it or not, it's handball either way. The specialist journals here in Germany are saying it could have gone either way, bizarrely. Dortmund's manager was on the one hand right that managers have been instructed by the governing bodies that deflections onto the arm wouldn't be penalised as a penalty; on the other, yes, maybe his arm shouldn't have been where it was - it made him look slightly clumsy and gave the referee a chance to see a situation in which Can's arm made his body unnaturally bigger. It really seems in this case that it's possible to interpret the rules so as to benefit one's own cause. I wouldn't have given it. Dortmund were chalked off a goal unfairly in the first leg, too. Still tutting :-) Part of the confusion is because different leagues are penalising handball differently. The Premier league relaxed the law a bit after the stupid offences at the start of the year. It's definitely a murky area, but how I read it (along with Dale Johnson at ESPN and Mark Halsey on twitter) is that if your arm is out like that, deflections don't matter, it's just handball.
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Post by impact on Apr 15, 2021 14:19:33 GMT 1
Grealish, Bellingham, Mount, Foden. it's like the new Lampard Gerrard Beckham and Scholes situation. Reality is England need someone like Dier (although definitely not Dier cos he's shite and hasn't played for England in midfield for a few years anyway) to balance out the midfield. Yeah and I don't think anyone would deny that. Declan Rice is that man IMO. You can then have 2 more forward thinking midfielders in there - Mount and 1 other. I don't think that 1 other can be Grealish or Foden however, they will be in the forward 3.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 15, 2021 14:38:12 GMT 1
Grealish, Bellingham, Mount, Foden. it's like the new Lampard Gerrard Beckham and Scholes situation. Reality is England need someone like Dier (although definitely not Dier cos he's shite and hasn't played for England in midfield for a few years anyway) to balance out the midfield. Yeah and I don't think anyone would deny that. Declan Rice is that man IMO. You can then have 2 more forward thinking midfielders in there - Mount and 1 other. I don't think that 1 other can be Grealish or Foden however, they will be in the forward 3. Except you know Southgate will play 2CB's, 2 defensive full backs, Rice, Henderson, Dier, 2 defence minded widemen and Kane 😉
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Apr 15, 2021 14:41:51 GMT 1
I remember there being a beer at one time called "Fucking Hell", not sure if it's still being brewed. Another funny one is the mountain in the Bavarian Alps called Wank. There's a shelter for hikers on the summit called the Wankhaus. Get away!! Although, if I think about it, the German verb for "stagger" is "wanken" - so it probably makes sense. Won't stop the tourists stealing the signs though :-) Imagine staggering into the town of Fugging in the olden days...
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Post by Floyds on Apr 15, 2021 14:43:18 GMT 1
Yeah and I don't think anyone would deny that. Declan Rice is that man IMO. You can then have 2 more forward thinking midfielders in there - Mount and 1 other. I don't think that 1 other can be Grealish or Foden however, they will be in the forward 3. Except you know Southgate will play 2CB's, 2 defensive full backs, Rice, Henderson, Dier, 2 defence minded widemen and Kane 😉 Even worse, he'll include Kalvin Philips too. That lad should be banned from the squad for his haircut alone.
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