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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 15, 2021 20:04:13 GMT 1
The specialist journals here in Germany are saying it could have gone either way, bizarrely. Dortmund's manager was on the one hand right that managers have been instructed by the governing bodies that deflections onto the arm wouldn't be penalised as a penalty; on the other, yes, maybe his arm shouldn't have been where it was - it made him look slightly clumsy and gave the referee a chance to see a situation in which Can's arm made his body unnaturally bigger. It really seems in this case that it's possible to interpret the rules so as to benefit one's own cause. I wouldn't have given it. Dortmund were chalked off a goal unfairly in the first leg, too. Still tutting :-) Part of the confusion is because different leagues are penalising handball differently. The Premier league relaxed the law a bit after the stupid offences at the start of the year. It's definitely a murky area, but how I read it (along with Dale Johnson at ESPN and Mark Halsey on twitter) is that if your arm is out like that, deflections don't matter, it's just handball. Yes, it would make things easier if everybody knew there was only one way to interpret handball. Maybe that is the best way: it hits your hand and it's just tough luck.
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 15, 2021 20:05:34 GMT 1
The specialist journals here in Germany are saying it could have gone either way, bizarrely. Dortmund's manager was on the one hand right that managers have been instructed by the governing bodies that deflections onto the arm wouldn't be penalised as a penalty; on the other, yes, maybe his arm shouldn't have been where it was - it made him look slightly clumsy and gave the referee a chance to see a situation in which Can's arm made his body unnaturally bigger. It really seems in this case that it's possible to interpret the rules so as to benefit one's own cause. I wouldn't have given it. Dortmund were chalked off a goal unfairly in the first leg, too. Still tutting :-) But if they're saying it could've gone either way they're agreeing with VAR that there wasn't clear and obvious evidence to overturn the refs decision 😉 Aye, "clear and obvious" isn't quite clear either :-)
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Post by impact on Apr 15, 2021 20:11:48 GMT 1
Part of the confusion is because different leagues are penalising handball differently. The Premier league relaxed the law a bit after the stupid offences at the start of the year. It's definitely a murky area, but how I read it (along with Dale Johnson at ESPN and Mark Halsey on twitter) is that if your arm is out like that, deflections don't matter, it's just handball. Yes, it would make things easier if everybody knew there was only one way to interpret handball. Maybe that is the best way: it hits your hand and it's just tough luck. Personally I'd hate that. Attackers would just aim at the arm at the edge of the box to win penalties.
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Post by Galpharmer on Apr 15, 2021 20:28:37 GMT 1
Arsenal three nil up against the racists. All three scorers ‘fucking monkeys’. Brilliant.
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Post by Terrier Ramone on Apr 15, 2021 20:31:01 GMT 1
Cov in front now
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Post by Baby-face Frankenstein on Apr 15, 2021 20:31:05 GMT 1
Yes, it would make things easier if everybody knew there was only one way to interpret handball. Maybe that is the best way: it hits your hand and it's just tough luck. Personally I'd hate that. Attackers would just aim at the arm at the edge of the box to win penalties. Haha, yes, well - Defenders would just have to perfect that odd-looking hands-behind-the-back posture. This making the body bigger with an arm thing is so open to interpretation, think it's called the "unnatural silhouette". But what's deemed unnatural in some folks' minds will be different in others. Daft.
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Post by impact on Apr 15, 2021 20:33:15 GMT 1
Definitely better than a Rotherham win
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Apr 15, 2021 20:42:18 GMT 1
Apparently Darren Moore at the Wendies has now contracted pneumonia and could miss the rest of the season.
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Post by alexdire on Apr 15, 2021 20:51:31 GMT 1
Apparently Darren Moore at the Wendies has now contracted pneumonia and could miss the rest of the season. Hope he pulls through. It doesn't sound good.
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Post by ACW on Apr 15, 2021 20:54:05 GMT 1
Sounds like a belting game in Rotherham - both teams with a pass completion rate just above 50%. Both have given the ball away over a 100 times!
Rotherham yet to have a shot on target.
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Post by ACW on Apr 15, 2021 20:58:53 GMT 1
Coventry win.
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Post by ilsonterrier on Apr 15, 2021 21:02:42 GMT 1
Apparently Darren Moore at the Wendies has now contracted pneumonia and could miss the rest of the season. One of our teachers at school got pneumonia at the same time as they got Covid and they were really quite poorly. Let's hope he's okay.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Apr 15, 2021 21:08:16 GMT 1
Apparently Darren Moore at the Wendies has now contracted pneumonia and could miss the rest of the season. One of our teachers at school got pneumonia at the same time as they got Covid and they were really quite poorly. Let's hope he's okay. Moore had only recently recovered from Covid and it’s also being reported that he’s asthmatic, though I’m not sure if that’s long term or a consequence of having had Covid. Hope he gets well soon.
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Post by ACW on Apr 15, 2021 21:55:33 GMT 1
Apparently Darren Moore at the Wendies has now contracted pneumonia and could miss the rest of the season. Hope he pulls through. It doesn't sound good. Yep, hope he recovers soon. Always comes across as a good guy. Has blood clots on his lungs apparently.
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Post by Wingman on Apr 15, 2021 22:04:38 GMT 1
Got to feel for him. Takes over at Weds, gets Covid and then pneumonia. A triple whammy!
Hope he pulls through and makes a full recovery.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2021 22:24:25 GMT 1
This is from the BBC report of tonight’s Arsenal game:
“Spurred on by the guile and energy of Emile Smith Rowe, they scored three goals from five first-half shots”
Great to see him fulfilling his potential.
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Post by boooothy on Apr 16, 2021 15:24:56 GMT 1
Anything other than a Blackburn win sees us drop another place tonight.
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Post by Porrohman on Apr 16, 2021 15:25:54 GMT 1
Anything other than a Blackburn win sees us drop another place tonight. Until we take the scabs apart tomorrow 😉
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Post by paulsg on Apr 16, 2021 15:29:49 GMT 1
Anything other than a Blackburn win sees us drop another place tonight. Until we take the scabs apart tomorrow 😉 How many strike breakers play for Forest? - some injustices run deep.
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Post by SW6 on Apr 16, 2021 18:17:16 GMT 1
Huddersfield 41 44 Rotherham 39 39 Sheff Wed 41 35 Wycombe 41 33 Current table with Derby at 0-0 , if Rotherham win their 2 in hand, we are gone. Worrying times. Edit : and Derby have just scored
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Post by Melc on Apr 16, 2021 18:25:58 GMT 1
Holy shit!!
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Post by iangreaves on Apr 16, 2021 18:26:41 GMT 1
Derby in front. Bloody hell.
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Post by boooothy on Apr 16, 2021 18:27:45 GMT 1
Come on Blackburn you feckin nobbers
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Post by markhtfc123 on Apr 16, 2021 18:37:25 GMT 1
No point wasting energy over other teams results. End of the day we’ve messed up in most games this year and deserve to go down in my view.
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Post by Hoggy on Apr 16, 2021 18:37:38 GMT 1
Blackburn are shite, in terrible form and Mowbray soon to be sacked.
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Post by impact on Apr 16, 2021 18:40:33 GMT 1
Agreed. They are probably safe now but they're on an alarmingly bad run. They have some pretty decent players there now as well.
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Post by impact on Apr 16, 2021 18:45:18 GMT 1
And just like that, Blackburn equalise.
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Post by boooothy on Apr 16, 2021 18:47:32 GMT 1
A Blackburn win would be good on 2 fronts. The obvious that it stop Derby getting points but i also thinks it makes our game against them easier.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2021 18:47:32 GMT 1
Agreed. They are probably safe now but they're on an alarmingly bad run. They have some pretty decent players there now as well. they are not safe yet but id like us to get to 47 points game not over yet a few twists yet in this runin
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Post by crux on Apr 16, 2021 18:48:40 GMT 1
Agreed. They are probably safe now but they're on an alarmingly bad run. They have some pretty decent players there now as well. If they're safe, can we beat them and we'll be safe as well 👍
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