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Post by Jack on Jul 14, 2017 8:03:41 GMT 1
The outrage levels will hit the roof today. Rest easy if you're in the Premier Pledge 4000 AND a long standing B&W member If there are 3000 of these and they all want tickets then I don't think there can be any complaints. I doubt that is the case though. The outrage will be the pecking order after that! Hold on tight.
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Post by loumacari on Jul 14, 2017 8:13:00 GMT 1
Might be wrong but I'd expect Old Trafford, Anfield and a few others to be hard to get but think plenty of others such as Stoke, Southampton, West Brom will be fine for season ticket holders that want tickets, maybe even extend that to teams like Burnley who we've played recently.
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Post by trueblueclarky on Jul 14, 2017 8:50:53 GMT 1
For me it has to be the Loyal 4000 + B&W memberships who get first priority on a first come first served basis. (and I'm not one of those - I live in Poland like Oti ) To negate the risk of alienating the future fanbase I would allow a +1 child (U'16) ticket - provided that the child is a current season ticket holder.
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Post by artysid on Jul 14, 2017 9:30:25 GMT 1
No perfect way of doing it.
I have a mate who is one of the 4,000 superfans but rarely goes to away games. I on the other hand having lived in London for most of my adult life have probably been to more away grounds following Town than 99% on here but only ever had 3 season tickets (despite attending at least 20 games a season – most away- for the last 40 years), so which of us is more deserving of an away ticket?
I’d say keep it is.
Don’t think I’ll have a problem for tickets for Swansea, West Ham, Brighton, Stoke, West Brom, Leicester, Southampton, Watford (maybe even Arsenal), If I miss out on Manure, Liverpool etc so be it. Que sera sera
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 14, 2017 10:14:27 GMT 1
There's no perfect solution. Should we go back to when the club went into administration and give priority to those fans that donated? I'd be guaranteed tickets! Fact is, there'll be games where it'd be pointless even trying to get a ticket, but some games won't be any problem. I'll see all the home games, hopefully, and if I can make West Ham, Swansea, Bournemouth, Southampton, WBA, Stoke and Everton away I'll be happy.
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Post by scoffsablue on Jul 14, 2017 10:34:48 GMT 1
Away ticket priority will be based on SC loyalty gong back to Deans loyalty pledge in 2008...you can forget everything else at shopfloor level with the exception of a ballot for the younger fans (the next generation) who haven't had the opportunity to create a decent history....The ballot will be around 15% which on an away allocation of 3000 tickets will give the chance of 450 tickets up to the lucky winners.
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Post by AndySk on Jul 14, 2017 10:49:14 GMT 1
Actually can't wait for some of the pathetic responses today, gonna be a good laugh
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Post by TTerrier on Jul 14, 2017 10:50:43 GMT 1
Away ticket priority will be based on SC loyalty gong back to Deans loyalty pledge in 2008...you can forget everything else at shopfloor level with the exception of a ballot for the younger fans (the next generation) who haven't had the opportunity to create a decent history....The ballot will be around 15% which on an away allocation of 3000 tickets will give the chance of 450 tickets up to the lucky winners. Have you heard this from the club scoffa?
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Post by upthetown on Jul 14, 2017 10:56:33 GMT 1
Actually can't wait for some of the pathetic responses today, gonna be a good laugh Whatever they announce is a disgrace, if I'm not priority one. The club is losing its identity, heads should roll over this.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 10:56:36 GMT 1
Actually can't wait for some of the pathetic responses today, gonna be a good laugh TMS with England bowling first at Trent Bridge and DATM outrage. This is setting up to be a cracking Friday.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 11:26:04 GMT 1
Will there be a separate moaning thread?
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Post by scoffsablue on Jul 14, 2017 12:16:01 GMT 1
Away ticket priority will be based on SC loyalty gong back to Deans loyalty pledge in 2008...you can forget everything else at shopfloor level with the exception of a ballot for the younger fans (the next generation) who haven't had the opportunity to create a decent history....The ballot will be around 15% which on an away allocation of 3000 tickets will give the chance of 450 tickets up to the lucky winners. Have you heard this from the club scoffa? I sit on the ATT panel mate and at the last meeting this was the direction that the discussion went in with the directors...It gets my vote too.
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Post by htfc1908 on Jul 14, 2017 12:24:03 GMT 1
Decisions decisions, 7pm watch Lancashire v Yorkshire T20 or the fall out on here and twitter?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 12:26:15 GMT 1
Have you heard this from the club scoffa? I sit on the ATT panel mate and at the last meeting this was the direction that the discussion went in with the directors...It gets my vote too. Bad idea. I would guess most people taking the time to actively contribute on the panel are in "The 4000", any idea if so?? The ticketing system needs to be discussed away from the influence of those who would be top priority and naturally agree with the theme. That time could have been taken up more usefully with supporter input into possible kit design options?!
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Post by johnnyx on Jul 14, 2017 12:38:30 GMT 1
Scoffa, cheers for the info. My youngest lad is 10 and is currently linked into my priority. Do you know if this will still be the case as would obviously want tickets together if possible.
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Post by stevvy on Jul 14, 2017 12:38:42 GMT 1
Ultimately no matter what's been decided, the club are between a rock and a hard place as no matter what system is in place, there'll always be at least 1 person unhappy about it because it doesn't benefit them. The club are literally in a no win situation with this as they'll get loads of abuse regardless.
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Post by betsvigi9 on Jul 14, 2017 12:42:59 GMT 1
I am one of the 4000, but only go to a handful of away games. I am also a B&W foundation member, as is my partner, who is also a patron.
I would be happy if the priority says as is, it seems fair to me. If the 4000 are given even greater priority, I doubt it will make much difference to the current situation.
Whatever the scheme is, it will have to be easy for the club to administer. I can't see them doing anything that makes it more expensive for the fans or the club.
I just think people should settle down and wait to see what happens. As others have said, it will probably only be a handful of games where it will be a problem.
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Post by Mastercracker on Jul 14, 2017 12:44:40 GMT 1
They shouldn't be between a rock and a hard place, they should have had a points scheme in place years ago like everyone else.
It was obvious early doors last season we had a CHANCE of getting promoted so it should have been looked at then.
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Post by scoffsablue on Jul 14, 2017 12:46:15 GMT 1
I sit on the ATT panel mate and at the last meeting this was the direction that the discussion went in with the directors...It gets my vote too. Bad idea. I would guess most people taking the time to actively contribute on the panel are in "The 4000", any idea if so?? The ticketing system needs to be discussed away from the influence of those who would be top priority and naturally agree with the theme. That time could have been taken up more usefully with supporter input into possible kit design options?! Typical reaction on genuine feedback ....God knows how you are going to treat the directors of the Club including DH who you've praised for getting us here and yet are priming yourself for an all out ambush...after sitting on the panel for 4 years and building up as much club support for the fan base as possible including the NSL/Cowshed Loyal etc as soon as there is something that's contentious because we now have a commodity the teddy goes way out of the pram...Never once Have i discussed the aesthetics of the kit for the upcoming seasons purely because there were more important things at hand but I'm happy to buy you a set of crayons so you can send in your entries!!...For the record I one of the 4000 and it's cost me a small fortune over the years, but that was my choice and my investment...As for the other members, I've no idea!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 12:47:07 GMT 1
The club have created their own mess by not tracking who has been going to what away games in the past. Typical town really.
FWIW: If it does go to the 4000, of which I am not one, I would be very happy with that. Much better than giving priority to a few thousand who paid £20 last season.
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Post by scoffsablue on Jul 14, 2017 12:49:00 GMT 1
Scoffa, cheers for the info. My youngest lad is 10 and is currently linked into my priority. Do you know if this will still be the case as would obviously want tickets together if possible. Cheers mate...we didn't get in to the full nuts and bolts of it all, just the general principle and who knows they could have ripped all that up, but we'll see...the announcement will be made at 7pm this evening...All the very best to you and your lad I hope you get them.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 14, 2017 13:04:41 GMT 1
Looking ahead, IF the club gets established in the PL, the club is going to have to come up with a system that is fair to ALL its support. Those supporters given priority THIS season shouldn't automatically be given priority for future seasons, otherwise many supporters are going to effectively be frozen out of being able to see Town away from home at all. That would be unfair and discriminate against supporters who, for varied and legitimate reasons, were not able to be ST holders continuously since 2008.
I've had a ST off and on since 2008, but I've contributed to the club in time and effort, as well as financially, including a significant donation when the club went into administration. Doesn't that count for anything?
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Post by Jack on Jul 14, 2017 13:08:58 GMT 1
I am one of the 4000, but only go to a handful of away games. I am also a B&W foundation member, as is my partner, who is also a patron. I would be happy if the priority says as is, it seems fair to me. If the 4000 are given even greater priority, I doubt it will make much difference to the current situation. Whatever the scheme is, it will have to be easy for the club to administer. I can't see them doing anything that makes it more expensive for the fans or the club. I just think people should settle down and wait to see what happens. As others have said, it will probably only be a handful of games where it will be a problem. Hello, are you looking for a new friend? 🙋
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Post by boooothy on Jul 14, 2017 13:14:17 GMT 1
This 30 quid cap on away tickets appears to what's created all this. No one wants away fans!
Either scrap that or introduce a cup style percentage going to the away team. I realise Town can't implement this and we need a different solution but it's wrong.
I'm proper nervous about all this could really take the edge off promotion. Think I'd rather be sat in the away end st Hull on a Saturday than listening to us at Old Trafford on the radio
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 14, 2017 13:16:17 GMT 1
Looking ahead, IF the club gets established in the PL, the club is going to have to come up with a system that is fair to ALL its support. Those supporters given priority THIS season shouldn't automatically be given priority for future seasons, otherwise many supporters are going to effectively be frozen out of being able to see Town away from home at all. That would be unfair and discriminate against supporters who, for varied and legitimate reasons, were not able to be ST holders continuously since 2008. I've had a ST off and on since 2008, but I've contributed to the club in time and effort, as well as financially, including a significant donation when the club went into administration. Doesn't that count for anything? the foundation is set up and ready.. you get in a draw, you get other bits and bobs and you get to apply for away tickets/cup tickets first.. its 8 quid a month and the admin is in place and the cost is already being worked in..you join and from day 1 you get the same benefits... there is not going to be a 'free system' nobody is frozen out, everyone can join and take their chances.. if you start looking at away purchases from this year its going to be all members, near enough.. join and get in the raffle.. this is where we are now.. I am a season card holder, have had 5 for many years and pay 5 foundation subscriptions and I will take my chances with everyone else with a season card and wether they pay 1 or 10 subscriptions or have only paid it from this week.. its fair.. we need to keep the support we have now re located , we can talk about fans of the future but we have nowhere to put them, thats a fact... we will end up with waiting lists like man utd... lets walk before we run...
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 14, 2017 13:22:29 GMT 1
Announce away ticket priority.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 13:25:14 GMT 1
We've had STs 9 out of the last 10 years and the one season we couldn't for work reasons I still went to loads of games potd anyway.
Hope I'm not gonna be unfairly disadvantaged. Lots of folk will have similar stories or other good cases for tickets that are not in the 4000. They've already been rewarded with the season ticket rebate and theres a hell of a lot of other regular fans that have made up our base support the last decade.
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Post by huddshroom on Jul 14, 2017 13:28:46 GMT 1
Glad I got the Platinum Terriers on Tour offer in May, hearing that will be priority 1, be some people upset they didn't get it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 13:35:46 GMT 1
Bad idea. I would guess most people taking the time to actively contribute on the panel are in "The 4000", any idea if so?? The ticketing system needs to be discussed away from the influence of those who would be top priority and naturally agree with the theme. That time could have been taken up more usefully with supporter input into possible kit design options?! Typical reaction on genuine feedback ....God knows how you are going to treat the directors of the Club including DH who you've praised for getting us here and yet are priming yourself for an all out ambush...after sitting on the panel for 4 years and building up as much club support for the fan base as possible including the NSL/Cowshed Loyal etc as soon as there is something that's contentious because we now have a commodity the teddy goes way out of the pram...Never once Have i discussed the aesthetics of the kit for the upcoming seasons purely because there were more important things at hand but I'm happy to buy you a set of crayons so you can send in your entries!!...For the record I one of the 4000 and it's cost me a small fortune over the years, but that was my choice and my investment...As for the other members, I've no idea!! Ambush?! I won't have any complaint about whatever system is implemented, I'll take my chance and if I don't get to a game because I've missed out due to a priority system then so be it, I won't be getting worked up about it (to be honest, with the way fixtures have fallen, I only really want to go to Southampton, Brighton and West Brom, and maybe Stoke and Leicester, plus Liverpool but I've got a ticket for that...and I reckon they will all end up going to general sale anyway?). My point is that I hope that whilst looking after "the 4000" (and I see some definite merit in doing this), they took on board the position of fans new and old, those who can dedicate the time and effort to contribute to ATT discussion, and those who live overseas who might fly "back home" once or twice a year, in developing whatever it is that they ultimately announce. And my further point was that if the club started discussing such a priority (the loyal 4000) system with people who are LIKELY to be in that 4000 (and 100% of ATT members I know ARE in the 4000 ! )....then it was hardly likely to result in an open, more progressive debate. Perhaps the club could have asked for input / views from the group of people who they decided wouldn't be on the ATT panel but who they suggested would receive questionnaires every now and then to provide a broader level of input. I am/(was? Has it been dropped??) in that group but have not had a single contact in over 2 years?
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Post by Henry Mcgee on Jul 14, 2017 13:36:14 GMT 1
I've been to every away game for the last 25 years - including running after some 13 year olds at Barnsley, shouting 'pig' at a copper at Stockport and throwing some stones at the Ipswich team bus. I received my letter this morning confirming I'd be starting up top alongside Mounie at Palace. Well done Town ticket office.
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