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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 14, 2017 13:44:12 GMT 1
Bet there will be a fair few disgruntled fans, especially ones that stuck with deano up until the Powell era. Feel for those guys and girls.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 13:46:16 GMT 1
Bet there will be a fair few disgruntled fans, especially ones that stuck with deano up until the Powell era. Feel for those guys and girls. Then again, those that stuck with the club in spite of Powell are getting their rewards! |
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Post by lankystreak on Jul 14, 2017 13:46:47 GMT 1
Haven't the 4000 had their reward with the £99?
Personally I would like to see the fans who have travelled all over supporting us when we've been shit to be given top priority, if this isn't possible due to lack of records then that's a shame. My Mum is in the 4000 and has always wanted to go to Anfield so if this gives her a chance to do so I will be happy for her, however I don't think she should be getting a ticket at the expense of someone who has followed us all over when she hasn't been to an away match since about 1999.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 14, 2017 13:50:18 GMT 1
Nothing wrong with more rewards on top of the £99, I'm all for it personally.
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Post by Venezuelan Pete on Jul 14, 2017 13:53:23 GMT 1
Nothing wrong with more rewards on top of the £99, I'm all for it personally. Me too |
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Post by htfc1984 on Jul 14, 2017 13:55:27 GMT 1
Sadly the club can't win.
I've not been away much last 4/5 years as priorities change in life but up until then I went everywhere regardless of the day or the weather.
I personally think the fairest way would literally be a 1st come 1st serve basis with a limit of 2 per person.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 14, 2017 13:55:31 GMT 1
Haven't the 4000 had their reward with the £99? Personally I would like to see the fans who have travelled all over supporting us when we've been shit to be given top priority, if this isn't possible due to lack of records then that's a shame. My Mum is in the 4000 and has always wanted to go to Anfield so if this gives her a chance to do so I will be happy for her, however I don't think she should be getting a ticket at the expense of someone who has followed us all over when she hasn't been to an away match since about 1999. your asking for searches back through historical purchasing, many tickets not used by the person who booked or paid for them??? personally I know from facial recognition at away games last season that the same ones were there when we were shit.. I would believe that a great many of them are also foundation members, given the small number of away fans often in past seasons they have to be.. or did just away fans never bother joining the foundation to save their money to put it into other clubs pockets??? if so they made a choice what to do with their money and they knew about the priority scheme then as they do now.. we are confusing away support with the foundation, the two are very much linked.. the only thing town will lose if they scrap it is revenue.. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 14, 2017 13:57:14 GMT 1
How would first come first served be fair? So all the glory fans that are just here for the season get away tickets over fans that have been here for years don't? Ridiculous statement.
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Post by Floyds on Jul 14, 2017 14:00:26 GMT 1
Hopefully those that were forced to move their season tickets out of the Kilner Bank this season will be given priority.
Only from a personal perspective, obviously.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 14, 2017 14:01:33 GMT 1
Is there a set method that most of the other teams in the Premier League use? If not - what's' the best method in use at other clubs? There going to be a few thousand disgruntled fans for each away game - maybe. There won't be 17,000 or so disgruntled fans each week because a large proportion of fans don't go to many away games, particularly if they are on the telly, or a long distance, or Friday/Monday night.
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Post by brianmcbrain on Jul 14, 2017 14:04:28 GMT 1
you can't please all the people all the time .
i am suggesting alphabetical order .
a for palace right through to z for man city .
only 19 games so perhaps group q and v , and x and z .
i'm changing my name on a fortnightly basis , so as of now
i'm aaron aardvark , but come may i will be zeberdee zylinski .
problem sorted .
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 14, 2017 14:05:10 GMT 1
How would first come first served be fair? So all the glory fans that are just here for the season get away tickets over fans that have been here for years don't? Ridiculous statement. Are there that many glory fans? Would you call all those who bought season cards last season glory fans? No - they were just taking advantage of the low price set. Maybe they should go back and look at the last lot who paid full price for a season card. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 14, 2017 14:06:03 GMT 1
How would first come first served be fair? So all the glory fans that are just here for the season get away tickets over fans that have been here for years don't? Ridiculous statement. It was fair last season. |
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Post by drfootball on Jul 14, 2017 14:07:08 GMT 1
If true I will miss out by a year I came to games on an ad hoc basis since 2002 but bought a season card in 2009.
There wills be hundreds like me , problem is 20192 does not go into 3000 (ish ) so I will accept it with grace and look forward to home games even more
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 14, 2017 14:07:25 GMT 1
How would first come first served be fair? So all the glory fans that are just here for the season get away tickets over fans that have been here for years don't? Ridiculous statement. It was fair last season. Yes going to stadiums that we've all been to over the past few season's. |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 14, 2017 14:09:07 GMT 1
Even tickets for Newcastle away weren't that hard to get last season after the initial rush.
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Post by Floyds on Jul 14, 2017 14:12:05 GMT 1
Looking at the fixtures, I reckon season ticket holders will be able to get tickets for West Ham, Swansea, Bournemouth, Arsenal, Watford and Southampton all in 2017.
Not saying we won't sell out, but either because of the timing (West Ham and Arsenal midweek) or because we've been to the other grounds recently, I doubt even if 4,000 have priority above the rest that 75% of those people would go to these games.
Could be wrong, mind.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 14, 2017 14:12:06 GMT 1
Yes going to stadiums that we've all been to over the past few season's. So they should have a system for people who have not been to a particular ground before? I've been to Brighton, Millwall and Gillingham lots of times - I feel entitled to go to Old Trafford and Anfied 😉 |
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Post by scoffsablue on Jul 14, 2017 14:12:56 GMT 1
Typical reaction on genuine feedback ....God knows how you are going to treat the directors of the Club including DH who you've praised for getting us here and yet are priming yourself for an all out ambush...after sitting on the panel for 4 years and building up as much club support for the fan base as possible including the NSL/Cowshed Loyal etc as soon as there is something that's contentious because we now have a commodity the teddy goes way out of the pram...Never once Have i discussed the aesthetics of the kit for the upcoming seasons purely because there were more important things at hand but I'm happy to buy you a set of crayons so you can send in your entries!!...For the record I one of the 4000 and it's cost me a small fortune over the years, but that was my choice and my investment...As for the other members, I've no idea!! I won't have any complaint about whatever system is implemented, I'll take my chance and if I don't get to a game because I've missed out due to a priority system then so be it, I won't be getting worked up about it (to be honest, with the way fixtures have fallen, I only really want to go to Southampton, Brighton and West Brom, and maybe Stoke and Leicester, plus Liverpool but I've got a ticket for that...and I reckon they will all end up going to general sale anyway?). My point is that I hope that whilst looking after "the 4000" (and I see some definite merit in doing this), they took on board the position of fans new and old, those who can dedicate the time and effort to contribute to ATT discussion, and those who live overseas who might fly "back home" once or twice a year, in developing whatever it is that they ultimately announce. And my further point was that if the club started discussing such a priority (the loyal 4000) system with people who are LIKELY to be in that 4000 (and 100% of ATT members I know ARE in the 4000 !  )....then it was hardly likely to result in an open, more progressive debate. Perhaps the club could have asked for input / views from the group of people who they decided wouldn't be on the ATT panel but who they suggested would receive questionnaires every now and then to provide a broader level of input. I am/(was? Has it been dropped??) in that group but have not had a single contact in over 2 years? I meant Bacon Tree...Obviously i was speaking with a Mexican accent I am involved with 10 Town supporters organisations home and abroad and appreciate just as much those that travel for the odd game as much as those that are just a bus ride away....We are presently victims of our own success and with having nearly a month less to prepare than those who gained automatic promotion it only magnifies the difficulty of the situation...Through the upcoming season better plans will be made for the future which fans will hopefully appreciate more than the present situation...That is however if we have the existing good problem to deal with...Back in the Championship everyones concerns will be allayed....I'll take the existing problem any day of the week...With regards the ATT, e-mail the club...join up or request feedback of minutes after each month on the website...they are bi-monthly at the Canalside starting at 7 pm...and trust me when I tell you that there have been meetings when I've had much better things to do with my time than discussing the correct serving temperature of a meat pie or a pint of Heineken!!! |
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jul 14, 2017 14:16:16 GMT 1
Yes going to stadiums that we've all been to over the past few season's. So they should have a system for people who have not been to a particular ground before? I've been to Brighton, Millwall and Gillingham lots of times - I feel entitled to go to Old Trafford and Anfied 😉 I'm not saying that pal I'm just stating the demand for tickets is going to be greater. People will be more eager to go to grounds they haven't been to before. Most regulars will have done certain away trips more than once. I've been to arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Newcastle, man city etc so if I missed out on tickets for em I wouldn't be too fussed. |
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Post by artysid on Jul 14, 2017 14:30:58 GMT 1
Ambush?!I won't have any complaint about whatever system is implemented, I'll take my chance and if I don't get to a game because I've missed out due to a priority system then so be it, I won't be getting worked up about it (to be honest, with the way fixtures have fallen, I only really want to go to Southampton, Brighton and West Brom, and maybe Stoke and Leicester, plus Liverpool but I've got a ticket for that...and I reckon they will all end up going to general sale anyway?). My point is that I hope that whilst looking after "the 4000" (and I see some definite merit in doing this), they took on board the position of fans new and old, those who can dedicate the time and effort to contribute to ATT discussion, and those who live overseas who might fly "back home" once or twice a year, in developing whatever it is that they ultimately announce. And my further point was that if the club started discussing such a priority (the loyal 4000) system with people who are LIKELY to be in that 4000 (and 100% of ATT members I know ARE in the 4000 ! )....then it was hardly likely to result in an open, more progressive debate. Perhaps the club could have asked for input / views from the group of people who they decided wouldn't be on the ATT panel but who they suggested would receive questionnaires every now and then to provide a broader level of input. I am/(was? Has it been dropped??) in that group but have not had a single contact in over 2 years? I meant Bacon Tree...Obviously i was speaking with a Mexican accent I am involved with 10 Town supporters organisations home and abroad and appreciate just as much those that travel for the odd game as much as those that are just a bus ride away....We are presently victims of our own success and with having nearly a month less to prepare than those who gained automatic promotion it only magnifies the difficulty of the situation...Through the upcoming season better plans will be made for the future which fans will hopefully appreciate more than the present situation...That is however if we have the existing good problem to deal with...Back in the Championship everyones concerns will be allayed....I'll take the existing problem any day of the week...With regards the ATT, e-mail the club...join up or request feedback of minutes after each month on the website...they are bi-monthly at the Canalside starting at 7 pm...and trust me when I tell you that there have been meetings when I've had much better things to do with my time than discussing the correct serving temperature of a meat pie or a pint of Heineken!!! Well I for one is very happy with the serving temperature of the meat pies at Canalside. So keep up the good work Scoff. |
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Post by cfromhx on Jul 14, 2017 14:38:42 GMT 1
You ve already been rewarded for buying SC s since 2008 with the £100 SC for the coming season. Some of us haven t been able to afford the lump sum every season,continuously,since 2008 so some seasons have had to pay on the gate every week BUT STILL HAVE BEEN TO MORE GAMES HOME AND AWAY THAN SOME OF YOU .
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Post by scoffsablue on Jul 14, 2017 14:38:42 GMT 1
I meant Bacon Tree...Obviously i was speaking with a Mexican accent I am involved with 10 Town supporters organisations home and abroad and appreciate just as much those that travel for the odd game as much as those that are just a bus ride away....We are presently victims of our own success and with having nearly a month less to prepare than those who gained automatic promotion it only magnifies the difficulty of the situation...Through the upcoming season better plans will be made for the future which fans will hopefully appreciate more than the present situation...That is however if we have the existing good problem to deal with...Back in the Championship everyones concerns will be allayed....I'll take the existing problem any day of the week...With regards the ATT, e-mail the club...join up or request feedback of minutes after each month on the website...they are bi-monthly at the Canalside starting at 7 pm...and trust me when I tell you that there have been meetings when I've had much better things to do with my time than discussing the correct serving temperature of a meat pie or a pint of Heineken!!! Well I for one is very happy with the serving temperature of the meat pies at Canalside. So keep up the good work Scoff. #sweeneytoddservesemhot |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 14:46:50 GMT 1
Well I for one is very happy with the serving temperature of the meat pies at Canalside. So keep up the good work Scoff. #sweeneytoddservesemhot But how does Speedy Gonzales serve his bacon tree? I'm guessing cold. I can't wait for the Premier League to start now we have the promise of such multicultural culinary delights. Always wondered why we stuck to pies, pastys and shit beer but I guess with the Premier League comes a more demanding, more discerning customer. |
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Post by Jack on Jul 14, 2017 14:52:37 GMT 1
Give priority to the ones who gave the 99 quid back. F*ck the ones that didn't. That would be quite funny.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 15:04:22 GMT 1
You ve already been rewarded for buying SC s since 2008 with the £100 SC for the coming season. Some of us haven t been able to afford the lump sum every season,continuously,since 2008 so some seasons have had to pay on the gate every week BUT STILL HAVE BEEN TO MORE GAMES HOME AND AWAY THAN SOME OF YOU . Who are you shouting at? |
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Post by ACW on Jul 14, 2017 15:19:21 GMT 1
Whatever system they choose is fine by me. I want to go to a fair few away games but I'm realistic enough to realise I'll be lucky to get to more than a handful (if that). No system will be perfect, and they'll always be those that moan, but my view is that this is a great problem to have. How often have any of us had problems getting away tickets? We've been mainly shite in my supporting life (I'm 43) and I've never even dreamed that we would be in a position where getting away tickets might be a problem. I didn't even have any problems getting tickets to Craven Cottage on the last day of the 99-00 season for what was Town's biggest game since the early 70s. Wish I had though!
I think we should all just enjoy this season, take whatever comes, and let the away tickets take care of themselves. If we are fortunate to get them great, if not, we'll be on telly a lot more and there will be plenty of highlights to watch. We've now got Premier League problems, and these are great problems to have!
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Post by claytonwestblue on Jul 14, 2017 15:38:12 GMT 1
Would be well pleased if it is the loyal 4000 and Blue and white foundation spent a small following Town year on year and would be the ultimate reward for all we have put in
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 15:44:31 GMT 1
A complicated but possible solution is to spread the away tickets around by only making it possible to attend half of the away games
ie every other game or an away season ticket to 50% of the games
This would give some coverage to say 6000 supporters+ rather than 3000
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 14, 2017 15:55:53 GMT 1
So they should have a system for people who have not been to a particular ground before? I've been to Brighton, Millwall and Gillingham lots of times - I feel entitled to go to Old Trafford and Anfied 😉 I'm not saying that pal I'm just stating the demand for tickets is going to be greater. People will be more eager to go to grounds they haven't been to before. Most regulars will have done certain away trips more than once. I've been to arsenal, Chelsea, Everton, Newcastle, man city etc so if I missed out on tickets for em I wouldn't be too fussed. I'd like to go them all too and I feel entitled to go them all - but I expect everyone else feels some entitlement too. I can't see any sensible way round it. You could benchmark other clubs and see how they do it. You could go first come first served. You could set up a loyalty/entitlement system. Last years system seems as good as any to me. Some entitlement groups can buy up to a certain date, then the next level of entitlement, then every man for himself. |
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