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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 16, 2017 19:23:04 GMT 1
not sure we have enough staff to start going through the last 100 and odd years of differing loyalties to the club.. hundreds of anecdotal stories and life stories to go through to search out the 'loyal'... you would have to have staff looking at people who cant afford season cards but travel to games as much as they can, given their current or previous financial situations(bank details would have to be provided etc).. people who spend more per capita of their disposable income on town related products than others with more money?  as daft as it sounds anyone who can prove they were at the biggest hidings or the most dangerous away grounds back in the day.. not sure I totally agree with the criteria selected but there had to be some and someone was going to be pissed off.. as they could never have 'won' I really think name calling of club officials is a bit shit.. |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 16, 2017 19:23:05 GMT 1
I think this is the big thing about TOT. It should have no bearing on what is happening now. So people who put their hands in their pockets last season, and made a statement about wanting to have priority, should be denied it this season? That would be unfair as well, wouldn't it? No. they paid for a priority ,as you point out, last season. If we hadn't gone up, their £20 wouldn't have bought them a priority this season. But for some bizarre reason, because we did go up, it has bought them a priority this season too. |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 16, 2017 19:30:12 GMT 1
not sure we have enough staff to start going through the last 100 and odd years of differing loyalties to the club.. hundreds of anecdotal stories and life stories to go through to search out the 'loyal'... you would have to have staff looking at people who cant afford season cards but travel to games as much as they can, given their current or previous financial situations(bank details would have to be provided etc).. people who spend more per capita of their disposable income on town related products than others with more money? as daft as it sounds anyone who can prove they were at the biggest hidings or the most dangerous away grounds back in the day.. not sure I totally agree with the criteria selected but there had to be some and someone was going to be pissed off.. as they could never have 'won' I really think name calling of club officials is a bit shit.. But it's fine to call town fans who it didn't "land for " .. and I quote "moaning c****" ? |
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Post by softboy on Jul 16, 2017 19:31:08 GMT 1
there is nothing on the town website about another 20quid (or more) for TOT membership so it seems that the payment made last year was a one off forever payment whereas b and w and patrons is an annual thing - they can hardly go back to TOT people for more money after they have sorted priorities out so these people have certainly got a good deal
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Post by townrwe on Jul 16, 2017 19:46:59 GMT 1
The whole summer stinks of rushing making decisions. There has probably been alot of decisions to make but they have ridden roughshod through them.
Home shirt iron on transfers, having to move peoples season card seats, copied 3rd kit from 80s, sacking colgan, rushed and ill conceived priority system.....the list goes on.
I just hope more thought and effort has gone into recruitment.
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Post by Jello Biafra on Jul 16, 2017 19:50:17 GMT 1
Think I must be the only one that doesn't give a fuck. I'll see as much of Town as I want online and on MotD - home and away.
I last watched Town live with any regularity back in '83-'84, although I got drawn back in a bit last season due to the pricing deals and quality on show, not necessarily the results. Although winning plenty is obviously better.
Seeing Town play at all the famous grounds of the biggest clubs will be great - but I'm happy enough with the view from the cameras.
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Post by scoffsablue on Jul 16, 2017 20:06:07 GMT 1
Just heard from the club's official media department that there is a priority 1 up for grabs for the 1000th post on this thread...honest.
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Post by holmfirth on Jul 16, 2017 20:19:26 GMT 1
Just heard from the club's official media department that there is a priority 1 up for grabs for the 1000th post on this thread...honest. Really? |
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Post by holmfirth on Jul 16, 2017 20:19:42 GMT 1
Just heard from the club's official media department that there is a priority 1 up for grabs for the 1000th post on this thread...honest. Really? Or just joking? |
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Post by El Mel on Jul 16, 2017 20:27:48 GMT 1
So people who put their hands in their pockets last season, and made a statement about wanting to have priority, should be denied it this season? That would be unfair as well, wouldn't it? No. they paid for a priority ,as you point out, last season. If we hadn't gone up, their £20 wouldn't have bought them a priority this season. But for some bizarre reason, because we did go up, it has bought them a priority this season too. Same as B&W and Patrons, who are eligible due to their membership last season. I could drop out of B&W now, and it wouldn't affect my priority ranking. So that's fair isn't it? |
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Post by upthetown on Jul 16, 2017 20:30:28 GMT 1
I am hoping to see 15,000 away supporters at Gigg lane this afternoon After all its the only away game the moaners on here will be able to get to this season  I went, thought it might be the only away game I can get a ticket for this season. |
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Post by scoffsablue on Jul 16, 2017 20:32:48 GMT 1
No. they paid for a priority ,as you point out, last season. If we hadn't gone up, their £20 wouldn't have bought them a priority this season. But for some bizarre reason, because we did go up, it has bought them a priority this season too. Same as B&W and Patrons, who are eligible due to their membership last season. I could drop out of B&W now, and it wouldn't affect my priority ranking. So that's fair isn't it? 1000th post on this thread....congratulations G...you have just been upgraded to priority 1...Oh...hold on a minute you already are, can't have it twice...so it now goes to the 2000th post..honest. |
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Post by Dan on Jul 16, 2017 20:33:34 GMT 1
In a way it's a shame loyalty is being defined based upon financial commitment when there are so many other factors that should contribute to being considered "loyal" to the club. FWIW, I therefore think some recognition should have been made to those fans that donated significant money when the club was at its lowest ebb and in administration. But, hey ho, they've chosen not to do so and at least my name is on a plaque in the club offices somewhere! So you do want it to be defined based upon financial commitment then? |
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Post by El Mel on Jul 16, 2017 20:38:15 GMT 1
Same as B&W and Patrons, who are eligible due to their membership last season. I could drop out of B&W now, and it wouldn't affect my priority ranking. So that's fair isn't it? 1000th post on this thread....congratulations G...you have just been upgraded to priority 1...Oh...hold on a minute you already are, can't have it twice...so it now goes to the 2000th post..honest. Whoooaahhh. Hold on. I was a Carer for a disabled season card holder for 2 seasons, so I'm category 2. I'll take the category 1 upgrade though, just let me cancel my B&W first though, no point putting money into the club to help them out if I don't need to. Honest. ;-) |
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Post by space hardware on Jul 16, 2017 20:41:07 GMT 1
In a way it's a shame loyalty is being defined based upon financial commitment when there are so many other factors that should contribute to being considered "loyal" to the club. FWIW, I therefore think some recognition should have been made to those fans that donated significant money when the club was at its lowest ebb and in administration. But, hey ho, they've chosen not to do so and at least my name is on a plaque in the club offices somewhere! So you do want it to be defined based upon financial commitment then? Depends whether you're talking about donating a decent amount of cash to keep a club out of liquidation or 20 fucking quid for a pissy membership scheme, surely? |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 16, 2017 20:43:35 GMT 1
In a way it's a shame loyalty is being defined based upon financial commitment when there are so many other factors that should contribute to being considered "loyal" to the club. FWIW, I therefore think some recognition should have been made to those fans that donated significant money when the club was at its lowest ebb and in administration. But, hey ho, they've chosen not to do so and at least my name is on a plaque in the club offices somewhere! So you do want it to be defined based upon financial commitment then? No, read it carefully. The fact is that it is the club that is measuring loyalty in financial terms only, hence why I say "therefore.....donated significant money....." should perhaps have been considered by the club (maybe it was). |
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Post by El Mel on Jul 16, 2017 20:48:51 GMT 1
So you do want it to be defined based upon financial commitment then? No, read it carefully. The fact is that it is the club that is measuring loyalty in financial terms only, hence why I say "therefore.....donated significant money....." should perhaps have been considered by the club (maybe it was). Think you may be overthinking it. As I see it, they are rewarding fans who wanted priority last season, with priority this season. Simple as that. |
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Post by Terry Jacko on Jul 16, 2017 20:51:36 GMT 1
People are going to tell you winning tickets in the ballot will be pure luck, they are wrong. For £700 I will provide expert insight into how you can win any ballot you enter, pm for PayPal details.
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Jul 16, 2017 21:00:25 GMT 1
No, read it carefully. The fact is that it is the club that is measuring loyalty in financial terms only, hence why I say "therefore.....donated significant money....." should perhaps have been considered by the club (maybe it was). Think you may be overthinking it. As I see it, they are rewarding fans who wanted priority last season, with priority this season. Simple as that. No, I'm saying that fans show loyalty in many different ways, not just in financial terms. However, since the club chose to give priority to those that spent £20 on TOT last season, the club could PERHAPS have taken consideration of other examples of "loyalty", financial or otherwise. The club chose not to. Don't get me wrong. I'm P4. I'm confident I'll see enough away games to keep me content. Because I live down south I'll target games that lots of Huddersfield-based P1-P3 fans probably won't target. |
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Post by detox on Jul 16, 2017 21:42:25 GMT 1
No, read it carefully. The fact is that it is the club that is measuring loyalty in financial terms only, hence why I say "therefore.....donated significant money....." should perhaps have been considered by the club (maybe it was). Think you may be overthinking it. As I see it, they are rewarding fans who wanted priority last season, with priority this season. Simple as that. that's not really true ..I was top priority last season (having a SC and TOT), this season I'm 4th priority....... |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 16, 2017 21:51:16 GMT 1
But instead of paying £20 they paid over £100. The £20 is being totally over valued The other thing in all this is, it's ok saying it's only £20 but if you pay for yours and your family's tickets and would have needed to pay their members fee for ToT then it's a much higher outlay So you know better than the club what the relative values are of B&W & ToT! Give us break you over opinionated numpty. The value is clear for all to see. B&W is £104 per year. ToT was a one off £20. B&w is mainly an on going situation as well You tell me which is more valued. Ps. I've paid approx 1k into b&w over the years |
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Post by El Mel on Jul 16, 2017 21:51:56 GMT 1
Think you may be overthinking it. As I see it, they are rewarding fans who wanted priority last season, with priority this season. Simple as that. that's not really true ..I was top priority last season (having a SC and TOT), this season I'm 4th priority....... In that case, I'd say you're one of the unlucky ones (although you might consider yourself fortunate for not purchasing a season card during the Robins / Powell years). |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 22:14:23 GMT 1
So you know better than the club what the relative values are of B&W & ToT! Give us break you over opinionated numpty. The value is clear for all to see. B&W is £104 per year. ToT was a one off £20. B&w is mainly an on going situation as well You tell me which is more valued. Ps. I've paid approx 1k into b&w over the years I said relative values, not cost! B&W is a package of many items, each having a contributory value. ToT is a package of 2 items if I recall correctly, in my case £20 for Sheff Wed & upping my 10+ years from P3 to P1 (which I expected to pay again for this season). If people hadn't criticised ToT so much I think I would have been asked to, so thanks for getting me a good deal! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 22:15:05 GMT 1
No. they paid for a priority ,as you point out, last season. If we hadn't gone up, their £20 wouldn't have bought them a priority this season. But for some bizarre reason, because we did go up, it has bought them a priority this season too. Same as B&W and Patrons, who are eligible due to their membership last season. I could drop out of B&W now, and it wouldn't affect my priority ranking. So that's fair isn't it? Well ideally the Priority system would be applied live in real time and you'd lose the B&WF benefit the instant you stopped paying too. My impression though is that they have to run something custom to set each accounts priority, rather than it being a simple trigger, so I think they have to rubber stamp the status for the year. |
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Post by turbo2 on Jul 16, 2017 22:23:11 GMT 1
The value is clear for all to see. B&W is £104 per year. ToT was a one off £20. B&w is mainly an on going situation as well You tell me which is more valued. Ps. I've paid approx 1k into b&w over the years I said relative values, not cost! B&W is a package of many items, each having a contributory value. ToT is a package of 2 items if I recall correctly, in my case £20 for Sheff Wed & upping my 10+ years from P3 to P1 (which I expected to pay again for this season). If people hadn't criticised ToT so much I think I would have been asked to, so thanks for getting me a good deal! Relative value/cost. What's the difference? £20 vs £104 no matter what shite you come out with, in my 'overrated opinion " I'm right. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 16, 2017 22:23:16 GMT 1
not sure we have enough staff to start going through the last 100 and odd years of differing loyalties to the club.. hundreds of anecdotal stories and life stories to go through to search out the 'loyal'... you would have to have staff looking at people who cant afford season cards but travel to games as much as they can, given their current or previous financial situations(bank details would have to be provided etc).. people who spend more per capita of their disposable income on town related products than others with more money? as daft as it sounds anyone who can prove they were at the biggest hidings or the most dangerous away grounds back in the day.. not sure I totally agree with the criteria selected but there had to be some and someone was going to be pissed off.. as they could never have 'won' I really think name calling of club officials is a bit shit.. But it's fine to call town fans who it didn't "land for " .. and I quote "moaning c****" ? yes, simple reason, the club and that includes Dean have chosen how to do this.. Too much talk about the 'priority' being non away fans, not being 'proper fans' and all the rest of the bollox.. If I and 20 others regularly attend away games and are in the 'priority' grouping then its obvious many hundreds of others are.. We are therefore being given what Dean promised and do we not want a chairman who keeps his promises. How they sort out who gets what was never going to suit everyone, and as previously stated I have no guarantee of a ticket or tickets for the bigger games, I might well not get one given the allocations but I will continue to pay in and support the club at home and any away game I can get a ticket for without being a 'moaning c-nt'.. And I fit all the criteria and all the anecdotal stories and history of shit away games in shit grounds for decades.. Some of us, maybe many hundreds fit the criteria and we are in the right category.. If Dean changes it next season then I and a few thousand others will have paid money for years to get 'ONE SEASON' of possibly being able to buy away tickets in front of others, thats all, thats it.. no stories or tales of hardship and fraternity with a few dozen hardy souls or anything other than I am getting what I ended up paying for. We started paying the foundation when the club was on its arse and couldnt afford to give us anything. That counts now. We follow this up by monumental moaning about the shirts and the perks for people moved because of our 'success' ? Im still having the dream, if you want the fucking nightmare and the moaning, fucking get on with it.. |
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Post by drewden on Jul 16, 2017 22:39:41 GMT 1
What's the chances of the club, putting away
Games on a big screen at the canalside for the
Unfortunates who cannot get tickets.
The S.Wednesday game and atmosphere was
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 22:39:55 GMT 1
But it's fine to call town fans who it didn't "land for " .. and I quote "moaning c****" ? yes, simple reason, the club and that includes Dean have chosen how to do this.. Too much talk about the 'priority' being non away fans, not being 'proper fans' and all the rest of the bollox.. If I and 20 others regularly attend away games and are in the 'priority' grouping then its obvious many hundreds of others are.. We are therefore being given what Dean promised and do we not want a chairman who keeps his promises. How they sort out who gets what was never going to suit everyone, and as previously stated I have no guarantee of a ticket or tickets for the bigger games, I might well not get one given the allocations but I will continue to pay in and support the club at home and any away game I can get a ticket for without being a 'moaning c-nt'.. And I fit all the criteria and all the anecdotal stories and history of shit away games in shit grounds for decades.. Some of us, maybe many hundreds fit the criteria and we are in the right category.. If Dean changes it next season then I and a few thousand others will have paid money for years to get 'ONE SEASON' of possibly being able to buy away tickets in front of others, thats all, thats it.. no stories or tales of hardship and fraternity with a few dozen hardy souls or anything other than I am getting what I ended up paying for. We started paying the foundation when the club was on its arse and couldnt afford to give us anything. That counts now. We follow this up by monumental moaning about the shirts and the perks for people moved because of our 'success' ? Im still having the dream, if you want the fucking nightmare and the moaning, fucking get on with it.. Ok, I will accept that I am a moaning c*** but after your post, you must accept that you are a gloating c***.  The reality is that it is what it is and we must all just get on with it. Maybe we call a truce and a ceasefire from midnight. We could even have a friendly game of football in no-mans land ( that would pribably have to be in Ikea). |
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 16, 2017 22:39:57 GMT 1
As I said .. your quote was something along the lines of " I won't moan as long as I get my own way "
You obviously feel that priority over others is something you have "bought" down the years .. personally I don't think I should have priority over you or anyone else .. and vice versa.. I'm fully aware this isn't a view shared by you ... or indeed a lot of others .. that's fine ... free speech ... I've called no one a "c***" over it ... we are all town fans ... I've got zero animosity to anyone who goes to all away games .. good luck to em I say ... we've collectively had to put up with enough shit down the years .... but I've read nothing in any literature for any scheme ever that says " if or when town get into the premier league then if you are in this you will be looked after "
But good luck to you .. you obviously feel that you are the oracle about this topic.. so much so that you can call your fellow fans "c****".. I just wonder how you would have taken it if you had been in the same boat as someone like slapps who I feel has a genuine grievance ... I don't have a genuine grievance .. my blind loyalty over the years has diminished as I've got older ... I have no grievance I have no complaint ... what I don't like is smugness and sneering towards fellow brethren ...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2017 22:40:54 GMT 1
What's the chances of the club, putting away Games on a big screen at the canalside for the Unfortunates who cannot get tickets. The S.Wednesday game and atmosphere was Awsome Is that lyrics from a song? Or a limerick? |
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