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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 16:19:57 GMT 1
The fairest system is this....
The club comes up with something that they think is fair and will be easy for them to police, BUT, doesn't tell us what this scheme is (if they want, they can even write to us all to tell us we are in the top category but that still doesn't guarantee tickets because of the high number of awesome super doper top priority fans we have).
Everyone is happy.
Away tickets go on sale.
They allocate them as they see fit, and just tell any over the away capacity that they missed out, shame, try again next time.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 16:21:09 GMT 1
Just noticed a 'check your loyalty points' link on the official ticket site when on my account page. It doesn't work at the moment, but maybe this is a hint at where the club is going? Or maybe it's always been there and I never noticed. Been there some time, you probably didn't notice the "Fan Exchange" system either? (Click your name then click account history). |
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Jun 19, 2017 16:21:26 GMT 1
Just noticed a 'check your loyalty points' link on the official ticket site when on my account page. It doesn't work at the moment, but maybe this is a hint at where the club is going? Or maybe it's always been there and I never noticed. It's the latter |
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Jun 19, 2017 16:34:02 GMT 1
I think the NSL should get tickets first, then everyone else fight for the rest.
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Post by hughphamism on Jun 19, 2017 19:24:50 GMT 1
If they're going to start a points scheme. It's too late to go back as they rarely recorded details of all fans going never mind pay on the day.
Even for the Wembley trip I only used 3 out of 8 client refs so the club don't know the other 5 ST holders attended.
If it was well known the club was going to implement such a policy we would have made sure they had a record of all client refs for all the away games last season. There would be uproar (again!) If they back dated it.
If they do then nearly all away games will sell out as everyone tries to get to the front of the queue for the big games.
It would be good if the club did an away season ticket to reward those that want to go to all the games. It would make life easy on the ticket selling front too. Having said that I could see a lot taking that up and there being hardly any left for sale so I doubt they'll do that.
I just wish they'd announce what they're going to do.
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Post by Carlito Brigante on Jun 19, 2017 19:38:33 GMT 1
I think the NSL should get tickets first, then everyone else fight for the rest. Anyone with a t-shirt or hat with you on it with a megaphone gets first dibs Online you will need to do it by webcam  |
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Jun 19, 2017 19:46:39 GMT 1
If it was well known the club was going to implement such a policy we would have made sure they had a record of all client refs for all the away games last season. There would be uproar (again!) If they back dated it. . The Club are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but before the end of this season and even at the beginning no one would have predicted we would be where we are. Of course there is going to be outrage because some fans have only their own self interest at heart. Yes many will be disappointed, many will talk the talk but perhaps we should collectively, unanimously, without conditions or caveats support the clubs decision on the basis that they have had to make that hard decision. Some will benefit from one solution while others would benefit from another, the only consistency being that the majority of any solution will be unlucky. You cannot just magic up extra tickets for everyone. So let's support the club whatever happens |
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Post by Jack on Jun 19, 2017 20:30:49 GMT 1
I was in the same eatery as Sean Jarvis this afternoon, when he popped to the toilet I seized the opportunity and had a quick look at his notepad. It had the formula that The Club will be using to determine priority for away tickets this coming season. It looks a bit complicated and you might need a calculator but it will tell you if you have a chance of getting an away ticket or not.
1. Take the number of years you have supported Town.
2. Multiply that by the number of top flight titles we have won.
3. Add Kasey Palmer's shirt number.
4. Multiply by the number of penalty shoot outs we have won this year.
5. Divide by the number of draws we had in the league last season.
6. Now subtract the number of years you have supported Town.
This will give you your very own "loyalty points number".
If it's more than 15 you will get priority. If you are 15 or less then I'm afraid you'll miss out. Thankfully I'm OK but there could be a lot of people just missing out.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jun 19, 2017 20:52:27 GMT 1
I was in the same eatery as Sean Jarvis this afternoon, when he popped to the toilet I seized the opportunity and had a quick look at his notepad. It had the formula that The Club will be using to determine priority for away tickets this coming season. It looks a bit complicated and you might need a calculator but it will tell you if you have a chance of getting an away ticket or not. 1. Take the number of years you have supported Town. 2. Multiply that by the number of top flight titles we have won. 3. Add Kasey Palmer's shirt number. 4. Multiply by the number of penalty shoot outs we have won this year. 5. Divide by the number of draws we had in the league last season. 6. Now subtract the number of years you have supported Town. This will give you your very own "loyalty points number". If it's more than 15 you will get priority. If you are 15 or less then I'm afraid you'll miss out. Thankfully I'm OK but there could be a lot of people just missing out. how many will miss out?  not many! |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 19, 2017 21:07:11 GMT 1
If it was well known the club was going to implement such a policy we would have made sure they had a record of all client refs for all the away games last season. There would be uproar (again!) If they back dated it. . The Club are damned if they do and damned if they don't. Hindsight is a wonderful thing but before the end of this season and even at the beginning no one would have predicted we would be where we are. Of course there is going to be outrage because some fans have only their own self interest at heart. Yes many will be disappointed, many will talk the talk but perhaps we should collectively, unanimously, without conditions or caveats support the clubs decision on the basis that they have had to make that hard decision. Some will benefit from one solution while others would benefit from another, the only consistency being that the majority of any solution will be unlucky. You cannot just magic up extra tickets for everyone. So let's support the club whatever happens we didnt predict anything but surviving when the foundation began.. I am prepared to lose an away ticket to a new foundation member without making a peep..this is where we now are, if the club make that the rule of priority then if I aint quick enough, I dont get one.. Wont stop me paying in for the chance though.. Its an away ticket scheme already up and running and anyone can join and if so, anyone could miss out.. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2017 8:22:37 GMT 1
If they're going to start a points scheme. It's too late to go back as they rarely recorded details of all fans going never mind pay on the day. Even for the Wembley trip I only used 3 out of 8 client refs so the club don't know the other 5 ST holders attended. If it was well known the club was going to implement such a policy we would have made sure they had a record of all client refs for all the away games last season. There would be uproar (again!) If they back dated it. If they do then nearly all away games will sell out as everyone tries to get to the front of the queue for the big games. It would be good if the club did an away season ticket to reward those that want to go to all the games. It would make life easy on the ticket selling front too. Having said that I could see a lot taking that up and there being hardly any left for sale so I doubt they'll do that. I just wish they'd announce what they're going to do. Awaynseason tickets are inherently unfair....people would just buy them irrespective of how many games they intend going to so they could guarantee access to the ones they wanted, save in the knowledge tthey will be able to sell on games they can't attend. If fans can effectively create their own priority list and you're on that list because you simply know someone who has an awaynseason ticket then it's a system we shouldn't want. |
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Post by tbwah on Jun 20, 2017 9:09:23 GMT 1
If they're going to start a points scheme. It's too late to go back as they rarely recorded details of all fans going never mind pay on the day. Even for the Wembley trip I only used 3 out of 8 client refs so the club don't know the other 5 ST holders attended. If it was well known the club was going to implement such a policy we would have made sure they had a record of all client refs for all the away games last season. There would be uproar (again!) If they back dated it. If they do then nearly all away games will sell out as everyone tries to get to the front of the queue for the big games. It would be good if the club did an away season ticket to reward those that want to go to all the games. It would make life easy on the ticket selling front too. Having said that I could see a lot taking that up and there being hardly any left for sale so I doubt they'll do that. I just wish they'd announce what they're going to do. Awaynseason tickets are inherently unfair.... people would just buy them irrespective of how many games they intend going to so they could guarantee access to the ones they wanted, save in the knowledge tthey will be able to sell on games they can't attend.If fans can effectively create their own priority list and you're on that list because you simply know someone who has an awaynseason ticket then it's a system we shouldn't want. Which is what happens at Spurs & also to accrue 'loyalty points' in order to ensure a ticket to any cup final we may reach. |
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Post by pickup on Jun 22, 2017 8:47:23 GMT 1
Wouldn't it be easiest to just split us up in to categories!
1st Priority - People who have had a season ticket since Deano bought the club
2nd Priority - Season tickets bought by the mid April deadline
3rd Priority - Season tickets bought post promotion
and the general sale for whatever (if) any are left.
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Post by HAXBY TERRIER on Jun 25, 2017 15:35:18 GMT 1
The fact is lots of fans wont get away tickets, just have to accept its part and parcel of being successful, less away allocations, plus more wanting to go. but look on the bright side you will see 5 mins worth of the match on MOTD
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Post by tvor on Jun 25, 2017 15:43:34 GMT 1
Wouldn't it be easiest to just split us up in to categories! 1st Priority - People who have had a season ticket since Deano bought the club 2nd Priority - Season tickets bought by the mid April deadline 3rd Priority - Season tickets bought post promotion and the general sale for whatever (if) any are left. There is already a category system in place but I think I've got one that works. It'll work for everyone so long as you read it out loud. 1. Me 2. Everyone who bought a ticket to the Fulham away game two seasons ago. 3. Open sale. There's probably more categories to think about between two and three but I doubt the ticketmaster system will cope with it anyway. |
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Post by DeepSpace on Jun 25, 2017 17:16:19 GMT 1
I think the following makes sense. Guaranteed away tickets to:-
1. Anyone who attended at least one of Macclesfield (A) 2003, Barnet (H) 1993, Tranmere (H) 1974, Millwall (A) - 1980s at the old shithole Den, Plymouth (A) - ever, or other approved games that you are allowed to discuss to provide evidence for your "I was there when we were shit" loyalty card.
2. Anyone who has ever phoned in sick to travel to/return from (or both) any midweek away trip. Bonus points if we lost. Double bonus points if the fookin Examiner put you on the front page as a face in the crowd & you had to convince your gaffer you must have a long-lost twin.
3. Anyone who ever fell through a barrier at the Shay.
4. Anyone who ever poured a bottle of piss out of an open coach door whilst doing 70 down the M1.
That works for me.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 17:23:52 GMT 1
I think the following makes sense. Guaranteed away tickets to:- 1. Anyone who attended at least one of Macclesfield (A) 2003, Barnet (H) 1993, Tranmere (H) 1974, Millwall (A) - 1980s at the old shithole Den, Plymouth (A) - ever, or other approved games that you are allowed to discuss to provide evidence for your "I was there when we were shit" loyalty card. 2. Anyone who has ever phoned in sick to travel to/return from (or both) any midweek away trip. Bonus points if we lost. Double bonus points if the fookin Examiner put you on the front page as a face in the crowd & you had to convince your gaffer you must have a long-lost twin. 3. Anyone who ever fell through a barrier at the Shay. 4. Anyone who ever poured a bottle of piss out of an open coach door whilst doing 70 down the M1. That works for me. Those games are too big time. Macclesfield when they were playing at Chesters ground, stood on the muddy banking. Or Northampton that day it was windy. |
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Post by DeepSpace on Jun 25, 2017 17:42:22 GMT 1
I think they fall into the 'any other' category. Dunfermline pre-season as well when they ended up playing in a swimming pool.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2017 18:19:36 GMT 1
I think the following makes sense. Guaranteed away tickets to:- 1. Anyone who attended at least one of Macclesfield (A) 2003, Barnet (H) 1993, Tranmere (H) 1974, Millwall (A) - 1980s at the old shithole Den, Plymouth (A) - ever, or other approved games that you are allowed to discuss to provide evidence for your "I was there when we were shit" loyalty card. 2. Anyone who has ever phoned in sick to travel to/return from (or both) any midweek away trip. Bonus points if we lost. Double bonus points if the fookin Examiner put you on the front page as a face in the crowd & you had to convince your gaffer you must have a long-lost twin. 3. Anyone who ever fell through a barrier at the Shay. 4. Anyone who ever poured a bottle of piss out of an open coach door whilst doing 70 down the M1. That works for me. Those games are too big time. Macclesfield when they were playing at Chesters ground, stood on the muddy banking. Or Northampton that day it was windy.Haha... I'm in! The roof blew off the away stand and match was abandoned. |
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Post by duffterrier on Jun 25, 2017 19:09:36 GMT 1
Excellent,i'm in....Tranmere at home,won 1-0 in a promotion four pointer,Rod Belfit with the winner over the xmas period.Went to both Plymouth and Millwall in the 80's....Plymouth was on a Tuesday evening.
Also,to make sure of a ticket at Wembley for the Spurs game,my first away game was at Torquay aged ten,lost 1-0,first game of the season. (don't tell anyone that we were on a family holiday)!!
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Post by duffterrier on Jun 25, 2017 19:15:46 GMT 1
So if I were to come over for a visit next season, my chances of getting a ticket to any game - home or away - are pretty slim then? I haven't trawled through the rest of this thread so this may have already have been said but if you were coming over to see a game,home or away,i would contact the club and i'm sure they would sort something out for you,especially the home game(s) |
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Post by cfromhx on Jun 25, 2017 19:56:37 GMT 1
The only fair way to do an Away ticket Allocation System for us IMO is as follows (a loyalty points system based on bookings through client ref nos can t be done yet because there will be loads who have been paying on the day to go to as many games for years and not know they had to get points like that.If they had then they'd have done everything to get the points that way too.So start a loyalty points system like that only when we know we are going to be safe and survive our first season in the premier league then announce to everyone that wheh are starting that scheme) , until then , do the following :-
1st Priority goes to SC holders who have all 3 memberships too IE B&W,Patrons and TOT if they create that again.
2d priority to someone who is a SC holder with 2 of these memberships
3rd Give to those who are a SC Holder with just one of those memberships
4th Give to SC holder with none of those memberships
5th Rest on general sale.
We could also maybe tell people before the season begins that we are starting a loyalty points system and that those who go to the most away games this season proved through booking through your cient ref no get 1st priory for away tickets next season
then 3 memberships,2 memberships ,1 membership plus each having SC of coarse followed by general sale for future seasons telling people we are taking note of how many away games IE loyalty points they get beginning from the beginning of this coming season but I think probably best to wait till we know,that we are going to be able to survive our first season before telling everyone we are staring that loyalty based system because we don t know we ll have the demand for away tickets for coming seasons after this next one that makes that system necessary for further seasons until we know we re going to survive our first season in the premier league . .
Until then base it on those who ve invested most in Town SC + 3 memberships,then plus 2.plus 1,SC but no memberships, then general sale .
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Post by terrier17 on Jun 25, 2017 20:04:51 GMT 1
Sounds fair but that won't happen. Priority is going to be them who've had a ST the longest which in my opinion isnt the correct option.
I missed one season getting a ST in 09/10 due to not being able to afford the price from a u18 to an adult, but since then I've had one every season and go to 20+ away each season.
In contrast uncle and cousin go to every home game but never away, including any of the play-off finals, but will have top priority.
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Post by duffterrier on Jun 25, 2017 21:21:04 GMT 1
Sounds fair but that won't happen. Priority is going to be them who've had a ST the longest which in my opinion isnt the correct option. I missed one season getting a ST in 09/10 due to not being able to afford the price from a u18 to an adult, but since then I've had one every season and go to 20+ away each season. In contrast uncle and cousin go to every home game but never away, including any of the play-off finals, but will have top priority. Get one of them to get you a ticket |
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Post by turbo2 on Jun 25, 2017 21:29:34 GMT 1
Top priority anyone at saltergate pre Christmas No idea what year. Probably about 15 years ago. The original mark Hudson had the worst game I've ever seen by a town player
Took my old girl. What a waste of a day.
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Post by stripes on Jun 25, 2017 21:45:07 GMT 1
We need to goto a points system and presuming these will not be available historically i'd suggest a staggered start
1) Priority 1 from last season (SC + B/W or Patrons or TOT) who are part of the 4000 = 500 points
2) Priority 1 from last season not part of the 4000 = 400 points
3) SC last season & This season and 10+ away tickets last season = 300 points
4) 10+ away tickets last season or B&W or Patrons only etc =200 points
5) SC last season & This season and <10 away tickets last season = 100 points
6) Rest = start on 0 points
May not have every combination listed but then priority can build up with some emphasis on loyalty / away games.
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Post by DeepSpace on Jun 25, 2017 21:47:23 GMT 1
Top priority anyone at saltergate pre Christmas No idea what year. Probably about 15 years ago. The original mark Hudson had the worst game I've ever seen by a town player Took my old girl. What a waste of a day. Happy to add that one. I was there with my lad. Miserable day but one of his first away days in an open end terrace & he loved it (aged maybe 7 or 8). |
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Post by terrier17 on Jun 25, 2017 22:01:58 GMT 1
Sounds fair but that won't happen. Priority is going to be them who've had a ST the longest which in my opinion isnt the correct option. I missed one season getting a ST in 09/10 due to not being able to afford the price from a u18 to an adult, but since then I've had one every season and go to 20+ away each season. In contrast uncle and cousin go to every home game but never away, including any of the play-off finals, but will have top priority. Get one of them to get you a ticket I probably will but I shouldn't have to |
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Post by colnevalleyblue on Jun 25, 2017 22:16:38 GMT 1
Those games are too big time. Macclesfield when they were playing at Chesters ground, stood on the muddy banking. Or Northampton that day it was windy.Haha... I'm in! The roof blew off the away stand and match was abandoned. If memory serves on the game the stand blew down, we filled the away end and had a couple of sections on the home end. Probably about 800 away fans. (Big support, for a game 2 hours away in league 2). I was there for that game but not the rearranged one. Those chaps should get preferential treatment over me. Also, what a joke that was! 1-0 down and playing terribly, would've gone on to lose that 3 or 4-0. Game gets abandoned due to weather and we win the rearranged 1-0! |
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Post by turbo2 on Jun 25, 2017 22:21:32 GMT 1
Top priority anyone at saltergate pre Christmas No idea what year. Probably about 15 years ago. The original mark Hudson had the worst game I've ever seen by a town player Took my old girl. What a waste of a day. Happy to add that one. I was there with my lad. Miserable day but one of his first away days in an open end terrace & he loved it (aged maybe 7 or 8). Christ he carried on supporting after that day. Lol. That's why some of us deserve away tickets more than other. Only joking |
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