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Post by boooothy on Jun 25, 2017 23:18:13 GMT 1
I don't give a shit what the rules are as long as I get tickets!!!
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Post by Ginger Ogre on Jun 25, 2017 23:22:24 GMT 1
Category 1 - Season Ticket Holders
Category 2 - Everyone else.
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jun 25, 2017 23:25:42 GMT 1
Category 1 - Season Ticket Holders Category 2 - Everyone else. Absolutely.. why not ? First come first served |
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Post by cs194 on Jun 26, 2017 7:38:27 GMT 1
Awaynseason tickets are inherently unfair.... people would just buy them irrespective of how many games they intend going to so they could guarantee access to the ones they wanted, save in the knowledge tthey will be able to sell on games they can't attend.If fans can effectively create their own priority list and you're on that list because you simply know someone who has an awaynseason ticket then it's a system we shouldn't want. Which is what happens at Spurs & also to accrue 'loyalty points' in order to ensure a ticket to any cup final we may reach. Sorry but I have a Spurs away season ticket and attend every game and I know the other away season ticket holders do the same. It's a tough call for HT if they haven't been keeping logs of away attendance. They can surely only go by the history of those who have held home season tickets for some time and give them priority by ensuring they can apply for away tickets first. Of course on the assumption there are more than 3,000 such season ticket holders then many who have attended lots of away games in recent years will perhaps unfairly miss out which is a shame. |
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Jun 26, 2017 8:04:52 GMT 1
We need to goto a points system and presuming these will not be available historically i'd suggest a staggered start 1) Priority 1 from last season (SC + B/W or Patrons or TOT) who are part of the 4000 = 500 points 2) Priority 1 from last season not part of the 4000 = 400 points 3) SC last season & This season and 10+ away tickets last season = 300 points 4) 10+ away tickets last season or B&W or Patrons only etc =200 points 5) SC last season & This season and <10 away tickets last season = 100 points 6) Rest = start on 0 points May not have every combination listed but then priority can build up with some emphasis on loyalty / away games. It is great to see people thinking outside the box but of course the club would have to invest in a new software system to record all the existing data and all future data but also taking into account what other systems might be used for ticketing. I see a temporary solution for the forthcoming season and something more permanent thereafter |
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Post by tbwah on Jun 26, 2017 9:47:24 GMT 1
Which is what happens at Spurs & also to accrue 'loyalty points' in order to ensure a ticket to any cup final we may reach. Sorry but I have a Spurs away season ticket and attend every game and I know the other away season ticket holders do the same. It's a tough call for HT if they haven't been keeping logs of away attendance. They can surely only go by the history of those who have held home season tickets for some time and give them priority by ensuring they can apply for away tickets first. Of course on the assumption there are more than 3,000 such season ticket holders then many who have attended lots of away games in recent years will perhaps unfairly miss out which is a shame. Fair enough. I wasn't suggesting that ALL ST holders do it but many do. I can point you towards Twitter & FB pages where 'away' tickets are ALWAYS on offer. I personally know several ST holders that engage in the practice. |
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jun 26, 2017 10:12:06 GMT 1
If Town did an away season ticket for £600 (£30 x 19 plus £30 fee to guarantee the tickets) I wonder how many people would buy one?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 10:15:26 GMT 1
If Town did an away season ticket for £600 (£30 x 19 plus £30 fee to guarantee the tickets) I wonder how many people would buy one? Interesting,don't think you'd get 3,000 |
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jun 26, 2017 10:19:22 GMT 1
If Town did an away season ticket for £600 (£30 x 19 plus £30 fee to guarantee the tickets) I wonder how many people would buy one? Interesting,don't think you'd get 3,000 I'd happily pay the £30 just to save the tension and hassle of fighting for a ticket each game and knowing mine was safe. Agree that I doubt we'd sell 3,000 although I think the Bournemouth away end only holds approx 1,300 so couldn't sell more than that anyway. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 10:19:28 GMT 1
If Town did an away season ticket for £600 (£30 x 19 plus £30 fee to guarantee the tickets) I wonder how many people would buy one? Interesting,don't think you'd get 3,000 be very unfair on People who cant afford £600,not getting the chance to see a few away games because of a daft away season ticket price |
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jun 26, 2017 10:24:47 GMT 1
Interesting,don't think you'd get 3,000 be very unfair on People who cant afford £600,not getting the chance to see a few away games because of a daft away season ticket price There'd still be quite a few available for most games as they could only sell the amount of the lowest away capacity. If they allowed payment through finance like they do for a season ticket then it would ease the financial burden at outset and give good priority to those committed to attending each week. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 10:26:41 GMT 1
be very unfair on People who cant afford £600,not getting the chance to see a few away games because of a daft away season ticket price There'd still be quite a few available for most games as they could only sell the amount of the lowest away capacity. If they allowed payment through finance like they do for a season ticket then it would ease the financial burden at outset and give good priority to those committed to attending each week. nah not for me pal,,,its like a, im far more richer than you, imo |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 10:32:33 GMT 1
Interesting,don't think you'd get 3,000 I'd happily pay the £30 just to save the tension and hassle of fighting for a ticket each game and knowing mine was safe. Agree that I doubt we'd sell 3,000 although I think the Bournemouth away end only holds approx 1,300 so couldn't sell more than that anyway. Yep good point,maybe offer about 1,000,that should sort the very keen out which sounds ok to me. |
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Post by bigfatmonkey on Jun 26, 2017 10:34:02 GMT 1
There'd still be quite a few available for most games as they could only sell the amount of the lowest away capacity. If they allowed payment through finance like they do for a season ticket then it would ease the financial burden at outset and give good priority to those committed to attending each week. nah not for me pal,,,its like a, im far more richer than you, imo It's only £30 more than buying the tickets each week but I get your point, sounds a lot of money when all added up in one go. I get different people have different priorities but for me, £50 a month is less than people pay for SkySports and I definitely know which I'd rather have. Would much rather it went down to an away history loyalty system anyway but unfortunately the club won't have records for that. I'm not really one for people who pay more get more priority and didn't buy a Terriers on Tour membership last season for that reason but nearly missing out on the Hillsborough play off game woke me up to the reality of the times we're in due to the recent success. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 10:46:28 GMT 1
nah not for me pal,,,its like a, im far more richer than you, imo It's only £30 more than buying the tickets each week but I get your point, sounds a lot of money when all added up in one go. I get different people have different priorities but for me, £50 a month is less than people pay for SkySports and I definitely know which I'd rather have. Would much rather it went down to an away history loyalty system anyway but unfortunately the club won't have records for that. I'm not really one for people who pay more get more priority and didn't buy a Terriers on Tour membership last season for that reason but nearly missing out on the Hillsborough play off game woke me up to the reality of the times we're in due to the recent success. i think the long standing season card B/W, patrons deserve priority more.If we go back down again the demand will drop again and a lot who travel in the prem won't be interested,but the long standing members ect will still be,and might feel a bit shit on. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 26, 2017 10:54:20 GMT 1
It's only £30 more than buying the tickets each week but I get your point, sounds a lot of money when all added up in one go. I get different people have different priorities but for me, £50 a month is less than people pay for SkySports and I definitely know which I'd rather have. Would much rather it went down to an away history loyalty system anyway but unfortunately the club won't have records for that. I'm not really one for people who pay more get more priority and didn't buy a Terriers on Tour membership last season for that reason but nearly missing out on the Hillsborough play off game woke me up to the reality of the times we're in due to the recent success. i think the long standing season card B/W, patrons deserve priority more.If we go back down again the demand will drop again and a lot who travel in the prem won't be interested,but the long standing members ect will still be,and might feel a bit shit on. system already in place.. income for the club guaranteed, away tickets sales are not.. everyone who is going to buy a season card has done.. we still need the foundation and the patrons.. should Town become 'established' here then the club might think again but again that probably means less 'clamour' for a few of the away fixtures anyway.. lets go with what we have in place and see how it goes? |
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Post by Jack on Jun 26, 2017 10:57:55 GMT 1
Which is what happens at Spurs & also to accrue 'loyalty points' in order to ensure a ticket to any cup final we may reach. Sorry but I have a Spurs away season ticket and attend every game and I know the other away season ticket holders do the same. It's a tough call for HT if they haven't been keeping logs of away attendance. They can surely only go by the history of those who have held home season tickets for some time and give them priority by ensuring they can apply for away tickets first. Of course on the assumption there are more than 3,000 such season ticket holders then many who have attended lots of away games in recent years will perhaps unfairly miss out which is a shame. They do have records of away attendance though. Not 100% of course (because of pay on the day and assignment etc..) but they surely have some very good data especially for the last few seasons. You're right, it is a tough call for our club but what you are saying there is that simply because they don't have complete away records then they should give priority to the loyal home fans. I'd rather them use the away ticket info they do have than simply not use any of it and just give it to homeys. Yes, I do a lot of away games and am not one of the "loyal" 4000  |
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Post by detox on Jun 26, 2017 11:05:55 GMT 1
The existing priority scheme will have to roll on I think..so B&W, Patrons and TOT SC holders get first dibs. The only problem is Town haven't renewed the TOT scheme so those would appear to be dumped back in the 'rest'. There's no really fair way that will make everyone happy so the least controversial is the status quo, subject to the TOT fans from last season being catered for. ?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 11:11:25 GMT 1
The existing priority scheme will have to roll on I think..so B&W, Patrons and TOT SC holders get first dibs. The only problem is Town haven't renewed the TOT scheme so those would appear to be dumped back in the 'rest'. There's no really fair way that will make everyone happy so the least controversial is the status quo, subject to the TOT fans from last season being catered for. ? TOT wasn't even needed last season. I never had a problem going to any away games up until the Sheff Weds play-off game and I wasn't that fussed about missing it. Always seemed like TOT was a way of getting more money into the club rather than a fair way of prioritising ticketing. |
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Post by huddshroom on Jun 26, 2017 11:20:24 GMT 1
Anyone that saw us draw 1-1 away at dagenham on a tuesday night, or saw us lose 4-0 to macclesfield away should be priority 1
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Post by TJTown on Jun 26, 2017 11:37:41 GMT 1
Anyone that saw us draw 1-1 away at dagenham on a tuesday night, or saw us lose 4-0 to macclesfield away should be priority 1 Can the 4-0 away at Mansfield in the FA Cup count too? Still have nightmares about that now  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2017 11:57:57 GMT 1
How about a system where each priority gets a set % of the ticket.
Town announce a date when an away ticket ballot will be done and give fans a 2 week window before to apply. All fans who have a SC can apply whether they are B&W, TOT, have been to every game for 40 years etc.
You have maybe 4 priority groups
1 – SC Holders who are part of the 4000 loyal
2 – SC Holders who were SC Holders in 2016/17
3 – Current SC Holders with B&W,TOT
4 – Current SC Holders
If total applicants are under ticket allocation then everyone can be allocated a ticket.
If not then the below would happen
Priority 1 – 50% allocation
If the number of Priority 1 applicants exceeds 50% of the ticket allocation, then all are put into a ballot for the first 50% of the tickets.
Priority 2 – 30% allocation
Any unsuccessful Priority 1 applicants will join Priority 2 in the ballot for the next 30% of tickets.
Priority 3 – 15% allocation
Again any unsuccessful Priority 1 and 2 applicants will join Priority 3 for the next 15% of tickets
Priority 4 – 5% allocation
All remaining applicants will be in the ballot for the last 5% of tickets (or around 150 tickets on a 3000 allocation)
The priorities and % can change but seems fairer to me. The people in higher priorities have a better chance of tickets, the people with a low priority still have a small chance. Also stops people queuing at daft times and reduces any issues with website/phone ordering.
If applying in groups, the priority would go on the lowest in the group.
Once the season is then done. A new priority list can be created for people who have applied for every ticket the previous season (similar to what is done at Man Utd), giving them a better chance going forward.
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Post by huddshroom on Jun 26, 2017 11:59:58 GMT 1
Anyone that saw us draw 1-1 away at dagenham on a tuesday night, or saw us lose 4-0 to macclesfield away should be priority 1 Can the 4-0 away at Mansfield in the FA Cup count too? Still have nightmares about that now No sorry only those 2 games  |
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Post by stripes on Jun 26, 2017 12:07:35 GMT 1
We need to goto a points system and presuming these will not be available historically i'd suggest a staggered start 1) Priority 1 from last season (SC + B/W or Patrons or TOT) who are part of the 4000 = 500 points 2) Priority 1 from last season not part of the 4000 = 400 points 3) SC last season & This season and 10+ away tickets last season = 300 points 4) 10+ away tickets last season or B&W or Patrons only etc =200 points 5) SC last season & This season and <10 away tickets last season = 100 points 6) Rest = start on 0 points May not have every combination listed but then priority can build up with some emphasis on loyalty / away games. It is great to see people thinking outside the box but of course the club would have to invest in a new software system to record all the existing data and all future data but also taking into account what other systems might be used for ticketing. I see a temporary solution for the forthcoming season and something more permanent thereafter Would anything new actually be needed we had a loyalty system in place a while back that gave points for attending games, the 1908 scheme. |
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Jun 26, 2017 12:25:45 GMT 1
It is great to see people thinking outside the box but of course the club would have to invest in a new software system to record all the existing data and all future data but also taking into account what other systems might be used for ticketing. I see a temporary solution for the forthcoming season and something more permanent thereafter Would anything new actually be needed we had a loyalty system in place a while back that gave points for attending games, the 1908 scheme. That system is defunct and does not work with current existing ticketing software. I asked that question at the last ATT meeting. In essence there is no current software at Town and obviously any new software will taken time to be purchased, fitted and tested and tine which we do not have. This is a longer term solution and of course especially if we stay up |
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Post by DeepSpace on Jun 26, 2017 12:27:47 GMT 1
Anyone that saw us draw 1-1 away at dagenham on a tuesday night, or saw us lose 4-0 to macclesfield away should be priority 1 2-0 to deepspace. Thread ends here. |
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jun 26, 2017 12:27:58 GMT 1
It is great to see people thinking outside the box but of course the club would have to invest in a new software system to record all the existing data and all future data but also taking into account what other systems might be used for ticketing. I see a temporary solution for the forthcoming season and something more permanent thereafter Would anything new actually be needed we had a loyalty system in place a while back that gave points for attending games, the 1908 scheme. no you would still have the fact on record that people had paid into the foundation for years or been patrons for many moons..some of which time was spent watching a load of old shite.. what you pay into a premier league club is as important as how many away games you might be able to attend.. I say again I have no problem in 'fighting' for away tickets with any member of the foundation/patrons/season card holders no matter when they joined and started paying in.. |
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Post by AndySk on Jun 26, 2017 12:31:02 GMT 1
Anyone who went to Bury away when we beat them 6-0 and also a year later when we lost there 6-0 should get whatever tickets they want. Just cos it was a bit weird.
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Post by AndySk on Jun 26, 2017 12:36:51 GMT 1
Or how about we all have a meet up in the next couple of weeks and decide between ourselves who's going to what game?
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Post by bigtruck on Jun 26, 2017 13:08:17 GMT 1
For me the only "fair" way to do it is through a ballot. A bit similar to the Man Utd home ticket ballots. Pay £25 to register for Cat B Away games and/or £35 for Cat A Away games (or something similar) All those that have paid get drawn out of a hat basically.
If you get allocated a ticket you pay for it. If you get allocated and you can't or dont want to go you hand it back and its drawn again. Could cap how many games you can get drawn. You pay your money you take your chance.
I appreciate all the "loyalty" stuff people are mentioning but every fan is equal in my eyes whether or not you've had one for 40 years or just bought one this year.
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