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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Jul 1, 2017 6:21:59 GMT 1
Mitz you sound like a spoilt child many of us want the golden tickets. But surprise surprise in life sometimes you don't get what you want. If your one of the lucky ones then enjoy. We live in a world where people want it now and can't cope with not having it now. Spoilt and brat spring to mind. Spot On! Todays society seem to have an expectation that they can everything, all the time and become Snowflakes when they don't get what they want. As a former soldier I recall being on a course when we were told were going to be picked up at x time and at the appointed time, the transport did not arrive and then to be told we had to tab the 30k's. You just deal with it, which in fact was just a test. But imagine today the uproar of such thing. Some people need to manage their expectations
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Post by bridgeterrier on Jul 4, 2017 21:19:36 GMT 1
Mitz you sound like a spoilt child many of us want the golden tickets. But surprise surprise in life sometimes you don't get what you want. If your one of the lucky ones then enjoy. We live in a world where people want it now and can't cope with not having it now. Spoilt and brat spring to mind. Spot On! Todays society seem to have an expectation that they can everything, all the time and become Snowflakes when they don't get what they want. As a former soldier I recall being on a course when we were told were going to be picked up at x time and at the appointed time, the transport did not arrive and then to be told we had to tab the 30k's. You just deal with it, which in fact was just a test. But imagine today the uproar of such thing. Some people need to manage their expectations Mitzi asks a fair question that many Town fans want to know. Nowhere did she state she expected a ticket only that when they announce the TVs games that the fans should expect to know what the chances are 100%,50% or even a 1% chance. Thankfully Town look like they will give this info out later this week and everybody will have a better idea of where they stand
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Post by TerrierSpirit on Jul 9, 2017 14:08:40 GMT 1
I've recently started a blog about Town because I was getting so excited about this coming season and wanted a creative way to channel my enthusiasm. I've just written an article about away ticket priority for the upcoming season. Here's the link: www.terrierspirit.com/away-ticket-priority-201718-front-queue/I'd love it if you'd give it a read. If you enjoy the article please put your email in the subscribe box or follow the blog on social media. Cheers
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Post by StamfordTerrier on Jul 9, 2017 14:18:44 GMT 1
You're honest enough to state that your preferred choice is based on what works best for you. On that basis I'd go for those who live farthest away and attended most away games! Bottom line, as you say, is that many people are likely to be disappointed whatever scheme they choose, in which case I will console myself by seeing 19 home games at around £10 a game. Can't wait!
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 9, 2017 14:20:23 GMT 1
nah not for me pal,,,its like a, im far more richer than you, imo It's only £30 more than buying the tickets each week but I get your point, sounds a lot of money when all added up in one go. I get different people have different priorities but for me, £50 a month is less than people pay for SkySports and I definitely know which I'd rather have. Would much rather it went down to an away history loyalty system anyway but unfortunately the club won't have records for that. I'm not really one for people who pay more get more priority and didn't buy a Terriers on Tour membership last season for that reason but nearly missing out on the Hillsborough play off game woke me up to the reality of the times we're in due to the recent success. You had a pay rise Mark? 😂
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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 9, 2017 14:26:42 GMT 1
Mitz you sound like a spoilt child many of us want the golden tickets. But surprise surprise in life sometimes you don't get what you want. If your one of the lucky ones then enjoy. We live in a world where people want it now and can't cope with not having it now. Spoilt and brat spring to mind. Spot On! Todays society seem to have an expectation that they can everything, all the time and become Snowflakes when they don't get what they want. As a former soldier I recall being on a course when we were told were going to be picked up at x time and at the appointed time, the transport did not arrive and then to be told we had to tab the 30k's. You just deal with it, which in fact was just a test. But imagine today the uproar of such thing. Some people need to manage their expectations This is absolute bollocks. Most people nowadays put up with a much worse existence than a generation ago. Grotesque inequality, huge fees for education, loss of community, rampant capitalism causing issues like Grenfell Tower, the first era where folk will be less privileged than their parents. What people expect now is jack shit and that is exactly what they get.
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Post by TerrierSpirit on Jul 9, 2017 14:30:06 GMT 1
You're honest enough to state that your preferred choice is based on what works best for you. On that basis I'd go for those who live farthest away and attended most away games! Bottom line, as you say, is that many people are likely to be disappointed whatever scheme they choose, in which case I will console myself by seeing 19 home games at around £10 a game. Can't wait! I didn't think Terriers on Tour was a good scheme when I joined at the start of last season, I just wanted to be sure I could get tickets for Newcastle away. It turned out to be the best £20 I've ever spent because it meant I could get tickets for the away leg of the playoff semi-finals. It doesn't feel right that you should be abe to pay to get top priority but I shouldn't complain because I benefited from it.
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Post by capitalterrier on Jul 9, 2017 14:35:53 GMT 1
You're honest enough to state that your preferred choice is based on what works best for you. On that basis I'd go for those who live farthest away and attended most away games! Bottom line, as you say, is that many people are likely to be disappointed whatever scheme they choose, in which case I will console myself by seeing 19 home games at around £10 a game. Can't wait! I didn't think Terriers on Tour was a good scheme when I joined at the start of last season, I just wanted to be sure I could get tickets for Newcastle away. It turned out to be the best £20 I've ever spent because it meant I could get tickets for the away leg of the playoff semi-finals. It doesn't feel right that you should be abe to pay to get top priority but I shouldn't complain because I benefited from it. I agree.. but priority is going to come down to who is prepared to pay, be it in the form of a membership scheme or who can afford to travel to the most games.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 9, 2017 14:50:11 GMT 1
I think the following makes sense. Guaranteed away tickets to:- 1. Anyone who attended at least one of Macclesfield (A) 2003, Barnet (H) 1993, Tranmere (H) 1974, Millwall (A) - 1980s at the old shithole Den, Plymouth (A) - ever, or other approved games that you are allowed to discuss to provide evidence for your "I was there when we were shit" loyalty card. 2. Anyone who has ever phoned in sick to travel to/return from (or both) any midweek away trip. Bonus points if we lost. Double bonus points if the fookin Examiner put you on the front page as a face in the crowd & you had to convince your gaffer you must have a long-lost twin. 3. Anyone who ever fell through a barrier at the Shay. 4. Anyone who ever poured a bottle of piss out of an open coach door whilst doing 70 down the M1. That works for me. Think you should get 2 tickets if you went to the Den.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 9, 2017 14:54:02 GMT 1
If the club actually want to make some money out of it they should sell some packages for away games including travel from Canalside (or from our house). Otherwise use the same system as last season. Can't really see any reason to change. Demand is higher - but so what - last season there were far more season ticket holders than tickets available.
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Post by sabailand on Jul 9, 2017 15:39:13 GMT 1
Spot On! Todays society seem to have an expectation that they can everything, all the time and become Snowflakes when they don't get what they want. As a former soldier I recall being on a course when we were told were going to be picked up at x time and at the appointed time, the transport did not arrive and then to be told we had to tab the 30k's. You just deal with it, which in fact was just a test. But imagine today the uproar of such thing. Some people need to manage their expectations This is absolute bollocks. Most people nowadays put up with a much worse existence than a generation ago. Grotesque inequality, huge fees for education, loss of community, rampant capitalism causing issues like Grenfell Tower, the first era where folk will be less privileged than their parents. What people expect now is jack shit and that is exactly what they get. Rubbish and then some,todays society is molly coddled like never before,rampant capitalism causing renfell is absolute tosh,how the hell do you come to that conclusion,i thought was a fridge that caused it,typical left wing nonesense! Im a capitalist,you`re a capitalist,we all want as much money as we can make,would you give up half your wage to the state....would you hell!
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 9, 2017 15:48:15 GMT 1
Well I'm off the Palace. If I have to bivvawak down for the night outside the ticket office so be it, but I'm going. They've got a new manger in place and we're going to spoil the party. Hoo yaaa it could look a bit like a travelers site, see you there
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 9, 2017 15:52:32 GMT 1
This is absolute bollocks. Most people nowadays put up with a much worse existence than a generation ago. Grotesque inequality, huge fees for education, loss of community, rampant capitalism causing issues like Grenfell Tower, the first era where folk will be less privileged than their parents. What people expect now is jack shit and that is exactly what they get. Rubbish and then some,todays society is molly coddled like never before,rampant capitalism causing renfell is absolute tosh,how the hell do you come to that conclusion,i thought was a fridge that caused it,typical left wing nonesense! Im a capitalist,you`re a capitalist,we all want as much money as we can make,would you give up half your wage to the state....would you hell! to not have an i pad each for your children is probably not poverty.. might well be seen as such today.. someone seems to have forgotten the huge 'real poverty' of the 50s and 60s.. lots of photos and archive material and some real facts and figures on it, if you look past the 'nike trainers and the i phones' of all those living in the third world here.. poverty was just as probably helped along then as it is now by adults spending their money on the wrong things when they have saddled themselves and us with children without any idea ever of how they would be able to pay for them, in work or never in work..
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 9, 2017 15:55:07 GMT 1
tickets to go to members and season card holders first.. for all the reasons we have been through, lots of times..
8 quid a month to join.. one average away game covers a seasons membership.. make your choice and stick with it..
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Post by StamfordTerrier on Jul 9, 2017 16:21:19 GMT 1
8 quid a month to join.. one average away game covers a seasons membership.. make your choice and stick with it.. Can you explain please?... I'm not quite getting your point here. Cheers.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 9, 2017 16:27:34 GMT 1
8 quid a month to join.. one average away game covers a seasons membership.. make your choice and stick with it.. Can you explain please?... I'm not quite getting your point here. Cheers. previous posts on away ticket priority.. had a few posters who go to lots and lots of away games but are not foundation members or patrons..?? some even travelled with kid or kids... the cost of membership is 8 quid a month, hence one away game roughly... if its money its a choice.. or certainly can be..
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Post by Chips Longhorn on Jul 9, 2017 16:34:34 GMT 1
Can you explain please?... I'm not quite getting your point here. Cheers. previous posts on away ticket priority.. had a few posters who go to lots and lots of away games but are not foundation members or patrons..?? some even travelled with kid or kids... the cost of membership is 8 quid a month, hence one away game roughly... if its money its a choice.. or certainly can be.. Can you explain please ? .... I'm not quite getting your point here... cheers
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Post by rubicon on Jul 9, 2017 16:54:58 GMT 1
Just to agree with an earlier poster. Younger members seem to think anyone over 60, has had the life of Riley. I'd just like to point out, mortgage rates of 15%, Health Service pay even shittier than it is now, tax rates bloody sky high, and if you lost your job, getting benefits was like winning the lottery. I have no idea what system Town will choose, whatever it is, I'll just go along with it.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 9, 2017 17:52:19 GMT 1
Spot On! Todays society seem to have an expectation that they can everything, all the time and become Snowflakes when they don't get what they want. As a former soldier I recall being on a course when we were told were going to be picked up at x time and at the appointed time, the transport did not arrive and then to be told we had to tab the 30k's. You just deal with it, which in fact was just a test. But imagine today the uproar of such thing. Some people need to manage their expectations This is absolute bollocks. Most people nowadays put up with a much worse existence than a generation ago. Grotesque inequality, huge fees for education, loss of community, rampant capitalism causing issues like Grenfell Tower, the first era where folk will be less privileged than their parents. What people expect now is jack shit and that is exactly what they get. That is complete rubbish. Your average joe has more holidays, better holidays, more leisure time and more disposable income to spend on it, He has a world of tech that the previous generation couldn't even imagine. They drive much better cars, spend far more on fashion, trendy foods etc etc. Go to a council estate and there are plenty of nice cars, sky dishes everywhere. They go on foreign holidays for a fortnight, not a butlins in skegness. In general people now have it VASTLY better than their parents generation did.
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Post by arlo on Jul 9, 2017 18:15:18 GMT 1
Well I'm off the Palace. If I have to bivvawak down for the night outside the ticket office so be it, but I'm going. They've got a new manger in place and we're going to spoil the party. Hoo yaaa it could look a bit like a travelers site, see you there Get me one while you're there
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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 9, 2017 19:58:51 GMT 1
This is absolute bollocks. Most people nowadays put up with a much worse existence than a generation ago. Grotesque inequality, huge fees for education, loss of community, rampant capitalism causing issues like Grenfell Tower, the first era where folk will be less privileged than their parents. What people expect now is jack shit and that is exactly what they get. Rubbish and then some,todays society is molly coddled like never before,rampant capitalism causing renfell is absolute tosh,how the hell do you come to that conclusion,i thought was a fridge that caused it,typical left wing nonesense! Im a capitalist,you`re a capitalist,we all want as much money as we can make,would you give up half your wage to the state....would you hell! I do give half my wage to the state and am happy to do so. I earn a decent whack.
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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 9, 2017 20:12:58 GMT 1
Rubbish and then some,todays society is molly coddled like never before,rampant capitalism causing renfell is absolute tosh,how the hell do you come to that conclusion,i thought was a fridge that caused it,typical left wing nonesense! Im a capitalist,you`re a capitalist,we all want as much money as we can make,would you give up half your wage to the state....would you hell! to not have an i pad each for your children is probably not poverty.. might well be seen as such today.. someone seems to have forgotten the huge 'real poverty' of the 50s and 60s.. lots of photos and archive material and some real facts and figures on it, if you look past the 'nike trainers and the i phones' of all those living in the third world here.. poverty was just as probably helped along then as it is now by adults spending their money on the wrong things when they have saddled themselves and us with children without any idea ever of how they would be able to pay for them, in work or never in work.. The 50s and 60s are not a generation ago. The 70s and 80s are.
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Post by rubicon on Jul 9, 2017 20:25:12 GMT 1
The 70s and 80s generations are probably still working under the same or worse conditions than probably some younger members. Mortgages they can't afford and jobs they don't necessarily understand with technology and PC correctness etc. Generally it's the 50s and 60s kids the younger generation think are getting all life's benefits. They wouldn't have had a clue how to cope with what we did. For what it's worth, I am not against kids or younger folk, and do think some things shouldn't be. Stop foreign aid, re-introduce grants, at least for real degrees, sciences, medicine, maths and so on. Ban zero hours contracts just for two. Thing is a lot of things are better for them, so stop blaming the older generation, who lived without stuff you'd just not cope with.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 9, 2017 20:54:43 GMT 1
to not have an i pad each for your children is probably not poverty.. might well be seen as such today.. someone seems to have forgotten the huge 'real poverty' of the 50s and 60s.. lots of photos and archive material and some real facts and figures on it, if you look past the 'nike trainers and the i phones' of all those living in the third world here.. poverty was just as probably helped along then as it is now by adults spending their money on the wrong things when they have saddled themselves and us with children without any idea ever of how they would be able to pay for them, in work or never in work.. The 50s and 60s are not a generation ago. The 70s and 80s are. I think we have generational differences on DATM. I can remember my dad cracking the £20 a week barrier, and I can clearly remember the Batley scrum half being overjoyed with his win bonus of £5 for a third round win in the challenge cup against Halifax at Thrum Hall. Have my kids, now in their twenties, had better opportunities etc than me - possibly but only just. Certainly have some big challenges around housing etc.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 9, 2017 20:59:22 GMT 1
This is absolute bollocks. Most people nowadays put up with a much worse existence than a generation ago. Grotesque inequality, huge fees for education, loss of community, rampant capitalism causing issues like Grenfell Tower, the first era where folk will be less privileged than their parents. What people expect now is jack shit and that is exactly what they get. Rubbish and then some,todays society is molly coddled like never before,rampant capitalism causing renfell is absolute tosh,how the hell do you come to that conclusion,i thought was a fridge that caused it,typical left wing nonesense! Im a capitalist,you`re a capitalist,we all want as much money as we can make,would you give up half your wage to the state....would you hell! Didn't capitalism become rampant a generation ago - "loads of money" - Mrs T.
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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 9, 2017 21:04:21 GMT 1
The 50s and 60s are not a generation ago. The 70s and 80s are. I think we have generational differences on DATM. I can remember my dad cracking the £20 a week barrier, and I can clearly remember the Batley scrum half being overjoyed with his win bonus of £5 for a third round win in the challenge cup against Halifax at Thrum Hall. Have my kids, now in their twenties, had better opportunities etc than me - possibly but only just. Certainly have some big challenges around housing etc. Interesting thought. My parents both died younger than any of their parents. My parents who have very similar jobs to me and my wife had a far greater disposable income in their 50s than we do - their mortgage expenses for a house very similar to ours were less than half the proportion of their earnings compared to now. My own kids who are in their twenties have far fewer opportunities of a decent job than I did despite similar qualifications and almost no chance of buying a house.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 21:09:32 GMT 1
The 50s and 60s are not a generation ago. The 70s and 80s are. I think we have generational differences on DATM. I can remember my dad cracking the £20 a week barrier, and I can clearly remember the Batley scrum half being overjoyed with his win bonus of £5 for a third round win in the challenge cup against Halifax at Thrum Hall. Have my kids, now in their twenties, had better opportunities etc than me - possibly but only just. Certainly have some big challenges around housing etc. Hard to grasp that half the under 30s owned a house in '93. For the Right in the generation above to say the collapse in home ownership isn't an issue because the young have fancy lattés and iPads is such a rejection of Thatcherism's key tenet that it boggles the mind.
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 9, 2017 21:18:51 GMT 1
The 70s and 80s generations are probably still working under the same or worse conditions than probably some younger members. Mortgages they can't afford and jobs they don't necessarily understand with technology and PC correctness etc. Generally it's the 50s and 60s kids the younger generation think are getting all life's benefits. They wouldn't have had a clue how to cope with what we did. For what it's worth, I am not against kids or younger folk, and do think some things shouldn't be. Stop foreign aid, re-introduce grants, at least for real degrees, sciences, medicine, maths and so on. Ban zero hours contracts just for two. Thing is a lot of things are better for them, so stop blaming the older generation, who lived without stuff you'd just not cope with. I wouldn't ban zero hours contracts, I would stop companies misusing them, that's the issue. I work for the NHS and you've worked for the NHS so you know how prevalent there use is within the Health Service to effective outcome too. So banning them isn't really the answer, it's stopping bad employers misusing them, having said that McDonald's offered it's staff permanent contracts bit only something like 25% of staff took them up on the offer so they can't be all that bad.
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Post by boooothy on Jul 9, 2017 21:20:25 GMT 1
It may seem silly to some but I am actually stressed about this. After travelling for years to watch terrible players at terrible grounds missing out this year would be a total kick in the balls.
Tuesday night in Hartlepool watching a nil nil draw and dreaming of what it would be like on the drive home on my Todd to maybe one day watch Town at Old Trafford. Only for the dream to come true but not get an invite to the party.
When are we expecting to find out??? I can't take this!!!!
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Post by boooothy on Jul 9, 2017 21:24:12 GMT 1
From afar the 30 quid cap on away tickets seemed like a brilliant scheme.
Now we can see that in reality all it's done is encourage teams (Town included) to sell as few away tickets as possible. A rethink is required. I'd rather tickets cost 80 quid.
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