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Post by teddytheterrier on Aug 30, 2017 18:45:17 GMT 1
It's alright saying it's a mistake but if he ain't gonna sign what's point of keeping him?
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Post by arroloui on Aug 30, 2017 18:46:09 GMT 1
Sure Wagner will have somthing pland for this happening
Probably some sort of loan striker coming in or somthing similar.
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Post by arroloui on Aug 30, 2017 18:46:40 GMT 1
Sure Wagner will have somthing pland for this happening Probably some sort of loan striker coming in or somthing similar. and he's not very good. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 18:51:38 GMT 1
His all round game improved last season but to the detriment of his goal scoring think it's a good deal myself but we could do with a loan maybe as cover. Don't see why certain people are acting like drama queens it's nahki wells were selling not like he's the best striker we have is it !
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Post by huddstownonly on Aug 30, 2017 18:58:37 GMT 1
Suppose we will all be more settled if DW receives Origi on loan from Klopp - any odds on this ?
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Aug 30, 2017 19:01:52 GMT 1
His all round game improved last season but to the detriment of his goal scoring think it's a good deal myself but we could do with a loan maybe as cover. Don't see why certain people are acting like drama queens it's nahki wells were selling not like he's the best striker we have is it ! Spot on, he's very average. He wouldn't sign a contract, let's move on and get behind our amazing club. I'm glad he's going TBH, good deal as we get A very good fee, We would have got nothing next summer. |
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Post by ranter73 on Aug 30, 2017 19:02:35 GMT 1
Personally disappointed to see him go.
Intelligent player, good runs, links play well and scored vital goals for us.
Should he go to Burnley that means he must be at least one of 3 strikers there yet we now only have two? Would rather have kept him and used off bench than leave us short in the striker front, as we were last season.
Good luck to him either way.
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Post by terriersyndrome on Aug 30, 2017 19:08:19 GMT 1
Didn't score many last season but scored some crucial goals. Good luck Nakhi, anyone who contributed last season is a legend in my eyes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 19:10:52 GMT 1
Suppose we will all be more settled if DW receives Origi on loan from Klopp - any odds on this ? He's supposedly going to Wolfsburg on loan and is over there in talks. |
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Post by crux on Aug 30, 2017 19:11:17 GMT 1
Do you not understand the fact that he (or rather his Agent) isn't interested in signing any deal with Town. He was offered a new deal last season and over the summer and turned them down. He isn't going to sign no matter how hard you want it to happen. To be honest it looks more like Nahki has given up on us rather than the other way round. Are you saying he turned down a new deal whenever it was last season and we again offered him another deal this summer and he has turned that one down too?. If that is the case, I stand corrected. From what Dean Hoyle has said, that appears to be the case. Obviously we're all assuming the latest contract offer was better than the first one  . It does appear to stem from his Agent rather than Nahki - someone said he has the same agent as Danny Ings and Charlie Austen who also ran their contracts down. From the outside it does seem strange - from a football point of view Nahki wanted to play PL football and had the opportunity with us (albeit unexpectedly), so why not look to sign a contract and stay. If the agent was any good he could have inserted a reasonable buy-out clause if needed. I think the move to Burnley is good for Nahki, in that he gets to stay in the PL with a team that will play a system that he fits better. A fee of £5m+ is good for us. Whether selling him to a 'rival' in terms of PL safety is sensible, will only be answered at the end of the season. On the face of it he doesn't look a PL striker, 10 goals as the main striker of a promotion winning Championship team isn't great - even allowing for his knee injury issues. If we replace with someone of similar ability, but fits our system better then we will be better off. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 30, 2017 19:12:59 GMT 1
Suppose we will all be more settled if DW receives Origi on loan from Klopp - any odds on this ? Why would Origi possibly want to come and sit on the bench at Town. Have we written off Mounié and Depoitre already. Nahki is/was surplus to requirements. The only possible reason for keeping him was for cover on the second bench. £5 million in the bank seems sensible to me. We can think again at the January window if it comes to an emergency. Not many shopping days left to Christmas. Sure DW can whip out a young European back up striker for the bench in Jan if required for less than £5 million. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 30, 2017 19:14:56 GMT 1
Personally disappointed to see him go. Intelligent player, good runs, links play well and scored vital goals for us. Should he go to Burnley that means he must be at least one of 3 strikers there yet we now only have two? Would rather have kept him and used off bench than leave us short in the striker front, as we were last season. Good luck to him either way. One of five strikers at Burnley. That will be a fun group to be in. By the way I'd take Barnes off their hands if they want to lose one - but doubt he is DW's type. |
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Post by lankystreak on Aug 30, 2017 19:18:10 GMT 1
Nahki, thanks for the third pen.
Burnley, thanks for the five million.
Good result for all three parties involved in my opinion. Now let's see who Wagner will bring in to add to our strikers.
Unlike a few on here I wouldn't be overly concerned if we signed no one else in this window even if Nahki goes. He clearly wasn't going to be involved in our squad so it's not really like we need to replace him.
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Post by huddstownonly on Aug 30, 2017 19:22:12 GMT 1
Suppose we will all be more settled if DW receives Origi on loan from Klopp - any odds on this ? Why would Origi possibly want to come and sit on the bench at Town. Have we written off Mounié and Depoitre already. Nahki is/was surplus to requirements. The only possible reason for keeping him was for cover on the second bench. £5 million in the bank seems sensible to me. We can think again at the January window if it comes to an emergency. Not many shopping days left to Christmas. Sure DW can whip out a young European back up striker for the bench in Jan if required for less than £5 million. I was actually half joking when I posted this realising it would never happen but having said that - I do think we will need a scoring back up for Mounie as I actually do not think he has any competition for his position at the moment and not at all certain about Depoitre but hope I am proved badly wrong. |
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Post by crux on Aug 30, 2017 19:23:30 GMT 1
The next time somebody posts that Wells has sulked, taken his ball home, been disruptive etc could they PLEASE provide one shred of evidence. I've read so much on this board about his attitude that seems to have no basis whatsoever, other than an obvious dislike of the player. I can understand a supporter not liking a player, I can understand a player not agreeing to whatever terms we have offered, but every time I've seen Wells play - he has put in the effort and teamwork that I expect from a professional. I also didn't see the VLPs, Kachungas etc stepping up to take penalties when it mattered. As for him missing loads of chances last season I must have been at different matches to certain posters - the number of times he was by himself in the penalty area was legion, and considering we played wingers I don't remember many crosses from VLP and the like that didn't either sail over his head or hit the first man. If he is going to a rival-for-relegation I think we are making a mistake. I can assure you that there is no way that Sean Dyche is going to play him up front by himself. All about opinion as ever, but I feel we must replace him - this week. As has been said the thought of the likes of Quaner taking on a Premiership defence is mind-boggling. I'm not sure anyone has, it's more the ongoing commitment to the club/team that is in question. I thought he did OK last season and probably played his best run of games in the play-offs, the penalty in the final was superb. He's being/been (ill?) advised by his agent not to sign any new contract with us, so we either sell him now or spend the rest of the season with a player who doesn't see his future with us. DW will let nothing undermine the overall groups togetherness, it will probably be worth a few points over the season, so it's best the Nahki goes now. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Aug 30, 2017 19:29:41 GMT 1
Whoa...hold on a doggone minute. I did extensive research, checked all best world times blah, blah. What i could not factor in was the £250 mill UK sport spend. I could not legislate for world records tumbling in cycling due to £150,000 state of the art cycles. We got 65 medals...35, more than half, were in sports sitting down! 20% were on bicycles!! Elitist sports where we only had handfuls of competitors. Sports targeted for medals over a 4 year period. We got a gold in boxing...she only had 2 fights! Just 6 medals in athletics....and 2 of those were a Somalian living in the USA. I lost a smidgen overall...as i said in the thread...its a TRADE and zero medals in the first 5 days made it a doubling of money for anyone who took the advice. Go and read again. My judgement on single players is like my judgements in life...seen a lot of both. You can go back as far as you want. Its all there...my pronouncements on Rhodes, Afobe, Scannell...dozens of players and i dont recall getting one wrong. As for Billing. Jury still out. Come back in 12 months. Only 38 appearances for us in 4 seasons...in the Championship (i recall the injury period). He has something but i fear he has peaked. What happened to all the buyers? Why has he never got in to Denmarks U21 team?DW next job...again...you are jumping the gun. He is statistically likely to...or at least be nowhere as successful as the last 12 months. Let's see if Billing who you said peaked two years ago gets his first start on Thursday. (4pm kick off uk time) Easy pick when a Prem player. He will start, the manager will be star-struck. |
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Aug 30, 2017 19:31:51 GMT 1
Town in complete control of this transfer. We are not selling him cause we are desperate for the money and if we really wanted to we could keep him. It's all our choice
Was good - but not excellent - in the championship and if people are honest he'd be way down in our player of the season rakings last year; smith, Loewe, Mooy, Kachunga, schindler, Hogg all did far more plus others for me
Wells is behind mounie, Delpotre and Kachunga can also play up front if needed. We'd need a lot of injuries for him to affect our first team (and he can't play anyway right now as he's injured)
Pretty relaxed if he goes irrespective of whether he's replaced or not
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 19:39:56 GMT 1
I think even in this day of big transfers, 5 mil for Wells is decent business. Wood scored 3 times as many goals as Wells did last season so 3 times the price. Wells also missed a lot of very good chances in the championship which you would have expected him to score. I was a fan of Wells and I thought we looked a better team when he played last season, but when you consider that he only scored 10 all season, he is currently injured, he has less than a year on his contract, he has no premier league experience and he is 3rd choice currently. We also only have 1 day left to sell him, and if he doesnt go, by the time Jan comes round his value will drop to 2 or 3 million, dropping to nothing next summer. What about his value to us playing his part to hopefully keep us up this season as part of Wagners well-known squad rotation?. Perhaps even surprise a few and really cut it at this level then earn a new deal and be worth 3-4 times this. We have given up on Nahki and it is the first time 'new regime' I strongly disagree with the Club. I ain't happy about this one bit. First of all Morley terrier I respect your view and I myself like wells but you say we have given up on wells?.The player has given up on us by refusing a new contract and was prepared to run is contract down.That is fact.I Totally understand that when the coach said he woudnt be one of the first choices to play he had the option find a new club which it looks like he has are run down his contract with limited are little playing time with us.He was offered a new contact well before the new lads came in but on the advice of his agent he decided against it thus the hard stance by the club.Sometimes in pro football difficult decisions have to be made and I wish the lad well but we move on . |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 19:45:05 GMT 1
The thing that wound me up with Wells was when he stood on the pitch at Wembley and said he'd look at sorting a new contract! This was in the TV interviews during the celebrations. He'd refused to sign one for how long? He'd have been the first knocking on the door to leave if we hadn't gone up. No two ways. Players can point to loyalty and putting performances in, but it works two ways and it has in this instance.
If he'd gone in Jan last season I wouldn't have been bothered.
It really stands out that he missed quality coaching early in his career - he didn't come through a club's youth system and it shows. It is isn't the be all and end all but his first touch leaves a lot to be desired and his finishing. His game has developed but has it really developed how everyone thought it would? Was it really apparent that he worked on his finishing, for example?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 19:50:48 GMT 1
Let's see if Billing who you said peaked two years ago gets his first start on Thursday. (4pm kick off uk time) Easy pick when a Prem player. He will start, the manager will be star-struck. Like ours you mean?  |
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Post by Hammy (still in Golcar) on Aug 30, 2017 19:52:09 GMT 1
Wagner obviously doesn't rate him good enough for the Prem.
Deano obviously thinks it's good business, decent lump plus frees up a wage for another player.
Let's leave it to the respective masters of their trades.
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Post by wtd on Aug 30, 2017 19:54:49 GMT 1
If Wagner wants to sell and Hoyle wants to sell, then what is ANYONE'S problem?
Have the pair of them not served HTFC well thus far?
Relax, and let the main men make the big decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 19:55:31 GMT 1
No mint. It hasn't. Ive always rated wells' potential but after we signed brown and we brought him into the play then I expected him to go on a scoring run but it never happened. He had a lot of chances in the last 15-20 games including in the play offs but could not hit the target.
That said I can see him scoring goals for Burnley. We shall see.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 19:58:53 GMT 1
No mint. It hasn't. Ive always rated wells' potential but after we signed brown and we brought him into the play then I expected him to go on a scoring run but it never happened. He had a lot of chances in the last 15-20 games including in the play offs but could not hit the target. That said I can see him scoring goals for Burnley. We shall see. Their system should suit him. Someone doing the graft for him to move into space in the box. I never fancied him to score in a 1 on 1. That was throughout his time here. |
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Post by Kent Terrier on Aug 30, 2017 20:07:22 GMT 1
Selling Nakhi Wells for £5m is great business. He's not Premier League standard, in my opinion.
As for only having two strikers remaining, I think we've got 4. Both Kachunga and Quaner were strikers when we signed them and could provide back-up to Mounie and Depoitre if needed.
Kachunga up front with Van La Parra, Ince and Palmer in the three roles behind would still be strong.
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Post by TTerrier on Aug 30, 2017 20:09:06 GMT 1
The thing that wound me up with Wells was when he stood on the pitch at Wembley and said he'd look at sorting a new contract! This was in the TV interviews during the celebrations. He'd refused to sign one for how long? He'd have been the first knocking on the door to leave if we hadn't gone up. No two ways. Players can point to loyalty and putting performances in, but it works two ways and it has in this instance. *If he'd gone in Jan last season I wouldn't have been bothered*. Good thing he didn't as we wouldn't have gone up. Fans are fickle. 2 years ago he scored 18 and kept us in the league with a poor team. He was at a lower championship club and he wanted to play at a high level. Who could've really envisaged us getting promotion really. So he stalled on signing. Right time for him to leave as everyone else signed and he didn't. Loyalty deserves rewarding.. However, he's been a great servant for the club and will leave for a good profit for us. Don't really get all the animosity. He scored in both the penalty shootouts. He scored goals regularly for 3 seasons. Did his job and now he's leaving and making us money. Good luck Nahki. |
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Post by Bassingham Terrier on Aug 30, 2017 20:16:02 GMT 1
Suppose we will all be more settled if DW receives Origi on loan from Klopp - any odds on this ? Have we written off Mounié and Depoitre already. Nahki is/was surplus to requirements. The only possible reason for keeping him was for cover on the second bench. £5 million in the bank seems sensible to me. We can think again at the January window if it comes to an emergency. Not many shopping days left to Christmas. Sure DW can whip out a young European back up striker for the bench in Jan if required for less than £5 million. Again, can I point out that the commonly held assumption/situation is that Liverpool demand that their players out on-loan are expected to play in 75% of games, meaning that Origi would not come to us simply as a bench-warmer. For this reason alone I wouldn't have ANY Liverpool players anywhere near our club on-loan. |
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Post by Walton-on-the-Hill Terrier on Aug 30, 2017 20:20:28 GMT 1
Sabiri has an excellent scoring record. Who is to say he won't continue to score once he get his opportunity? If Mounié can get say 10-12 goals and half a dozen others get 5-7 goals each (no reason why the likes of Mooy, Palmer, Ince, Depoitre, Kachunga couldn't do that) would we miss Wells?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 20:36:07 GMT 1
No mint. It hasn't. Ive always rated wells' potential but after we signed brown and we brought him into the play then I expected him to go on a scoring run but it never happened. He had a lot of chances in the last 15-20 games including in the play offs but could not hit the target. That said I can see him scoring goals for Burnley. We shall see. Their system should suit him. Someone doing the graft for him to move into space in the box. I never fancied him to score in a 1 on 1. That was throughout his time here. Fair comment- he struggled when he had time but then second half of the season he struggled when he didn't have time either. Was it 1 in 17 towards end of season- summer like that. He'll stick Kachunga up front if he needs a pacey option. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2017 20:36:59 GMT 1
Their system should suit him. Someone doing the graft for him to move into space in the box. I never fancied him to score in a 1 on 1. That was throughout his time here. Fair comment- he struggled when he had time but then second half of the season he struggled when he didn't have time either. Was it 1 in 17 towards end of season- summer like that. He'll stick Kachunga up front if he needs a pacey option. I think it's left winger we need. Unless he's going with Sabiri. |
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