Farewell Nahki

[loumacari]

Jul 29, 2017 20:35:58 GMT 1 Ox Terrier said:

Nakhi didn't sign the contract offered months ago and only has 12 months left on his contract. As I see it Nakhi has 3 options available to him.

1. Stay and fight for a place and go in January for a much reduced fee.
2. Stay and fight for a place and walk for free in 12 months, no doubt picking up an over inflated signing on fee.
3. Leave now, providing a club wants him, and most likely earn similar to what he's on now.

Town can't make him leave as he could just refuse the personal terms offered by a club they've agreed a deal Town. The ball is in Nakhis court. Maybe not the court he'd originally hoped it would be, but has to decide what to is best and weigh up the risks/rewards.

Agreed but if the buying club want him badly enough and are willing to pay him the salary he wants then Town can command a decent fee.

[pawsterrier]

It is probably a bit churlish, but I err towards bollocks to you Nakhi for thinking you could find a better home last season. It is only fair that the club will occasionally become bigger than a particular star player rather than usual inversion of this shit we have had mostly for decades, and is in the position of saying: thanks for the service, but goodbye. Rather than the player coming out with some condescending and self-obsessed: and now I embark on the next stage of this grand journey known as The Nahki Wells project, goodbye plebs, or just downing tools etc. It makes for a refreshing change imo.

[Deleted]

Regarding his contract/aspirations, he's simply gambled and lost. Wonder if he's not gone to Austria because has an offer in New Zealand?

[Thwarting Dog]

Jul 29, 2017 15:53:56 GMT 1 muffinman said:

Jul 29, 2017 15:22:34 GMT 1 Convictatthemac said:

Wells not in the squad for Austria, apparently left behind because of his ankle.

Cavare? No thanks.

Totally agree on this, we didn't mess about on the left back front but seem to be trying to do the right back competition on the cheap.
Cavare not for me in just what I've read about him

[teddytheterrier]

Must be a serious offer on the table for him then if he's been left out.

[Big Ern]

I lost all sympathy for players when Martin Smith left us for Northampton or some shite. This club is bigger than any player, he was offered a contract and refused it. Tough titties

[Deleted]

Smith hadn't been paid so was more than free to bob off.

Wells signed a contract with us. His goals first helped keep us up before his hard graft and goals helped get us into th big time. We paid £1.2m for him and he helped get us a £170m payday. He's not a Town fan and works for a wage.

Not sure why folk think he owes us something or he has been disloyal by putting his own career before the wishes of his employer.

It's modern football. You may not like it but moaning about it or being smug that we achieved more than Wells may have expected makes you look a far bigger dick than he.

[Metch]

Jul 30, 2017 0:49:41 GMT 1 @laura1 said:

Smith hadn't been paid so was more than free to bob off.

Wells signed a contract with us. His goals first helped keep us up before his hard graft and goals helped get us into th big time. We paid £1.2m for him and he helped get us a £170m payday. He's not a Town fan and works for a wage.

Not sure why folk think he owes us something or he has been disloyal by putting his own career before the wishes of his employer.

It's modern football. You may not like it but moaning about it or being smug that we achieved more than Wells may have expected makes you look a far bigger dick than he.

Agreed. He owes us nothing, his penalty at Wembley was the best of the lot, so much pressure on his kick. I will always be grateful for this and wish him the best.

[Doc Halladay 32]

Jul 29, 2017 21:23:26 GMT 1 @sonofspats said:

Regarding his contract/aspirations, he's simply gambled and lost. Wonder if he's not gone to Austria because has an offer in New Zealand?

I don't understand how he has lost in the so-called contract gamble!

Nahki holds all the aces, he can hold out for another 12 months and leave for his choice of club.

Town are the ones losing out due to a reduced fee due to Nahki's expiring contract.

If Nahki had signed a 3 year extension last year - Does anyone think he still wouldn't have found himself currently third choice. He would have been stuck kicking his heels and STILL 3 years from an out that he could control.

We tried to purchase Terodde and Uth last summer - Nahki has known the writing was on the wall re. his Town future and basically why would you commit yourself into such a position for a longer time.

[shawsie]

Jul 30, 2017 2:51:51 GMT 1 Doc Halladay 32 said:

Jul 29, 2017 21:23:26 GMT 1 @sonofspats said:

Regarding his contract/aspirations, he's simply gambled and lost. Wonder if he's not gone to Austria because has an offer in New Zealand?

I don't understand how he has lost in the so-called contract gamble!

Nahki holds all the aces, he can hold out for another 12 months and leave for his choice for club.

Town are the ones losing out due to a reduced fee due to Nahki's expiring fee.

If Nahki had signed a 3 year extension last year - Does anyone think he still wouldn't have found himself currently third choice. He would have been stuck kicking his heels and STILL 3 years from an out that he could control.

We tried to purchase Terodde and Uth last summer - Nahki has known the writing was on the wall re. his Town future and basically why would you commit yourself into such a position for a longer time.

Disagree slightly doc........there arent many strikers of wells quality in the championship that you could buy for south of 10m.
Hes very decent at that level and there is a desperation from many to reach the promised land......look at the spending in recent times of derby, wed, boro, villa, fulham to name but 5.
A championship club will bid good money because in the right team he gets 12 goals minimum and probably 15 and that could hit the jackpot.
Nakhi has hedged his bets.....as did gary roberts and he is only now back at the level where he left us! Football is a hard nosed business - nakhi has done well for us imo.....even better if we get 8/10m for him to strengthen our own squad in due course. Good luck to him - at worst hes a decent back up even in the top flight.......and he will be playing for a contract if he stays either with us or elsewhere....win win.

[malcolmbrown]

If he does go I wish him well. That coolly taken penalty under immense pressure at Wembley is one of the reasons we're in the Premier League.

[Deleted]

Think it is pretty obvious he has one foot out of the door already. Wagner wouldn't have said what he did if he was going to stay and then not being with the squad to Austria due to injury confirms it even further. Tommy Smith is out there and he's definitely injured! Injury or not, if Nahki was going to be part of the squad next season he'd be out there with them injury or not injury.

The question now is how much can we get for him.

[Thwarting Dog]

Jul 30, 2017 7:23:56 GMT 1 malcolmbrown said:

If he does go I wish him well. That coolly taken penalty under immense pressure at Wembley is one of the reasons we're in the Premier League.

But we shouldn't have been taking penalties now if he'd scored from 6 yards late into extra time, Golden opportunity missed. This is the difference between a top class striker and a striker that needs 3/4 attempts at goal to score once.
If I was Wells I'd have that contract signed sharpish, he's never going to get a better chance of playing Premier football and fight for his spot and the pitch.
Dean Hoyle won't let him walk away in 12 months for nothing.

[Chips Longhorn]

Jul 30, 2017 8:42:45 GMT 1 Thwarting Dog said:

Jul 30, 2017 7:23:56 GMT 1 malcolmbrown said:

If he does go I wish him well. That coolly taken penalty under immense pressure at Wembley is one of the reasons we're in the Premier League.

But we shouldn't have been taking penalties now if he'd scored from 6 yards late into extra time, Golden opportunity missed. This is the difference between a top class striker and a striker that needs 3/4 attempts at goal to score once.
If I was Wells I'd have that contract signed sharpish, he's never going to get a better chance of playing Premier football and fight for his spot and the pitch.
Dean Hoyle won't let him walk away in 12 months for nothing.

So basically, if you're not Gerd Muller then you're not good enough for our club. It will be interesting to see how much more clinical 10.5 million mounie is . We may be in for a surprise.. meanwhile Izzy "missed open goals against Wednesday and reading " Brown still harbours hopes of playing for Chelsea. How can this be possible ?

[Thwarting Dog]

Jul 30, 2017 8:50:30 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

Jul 30, 2017 8:42:45 GMT 1 Thwarting Dog said:

But we shouldn't have been taking penalties now if he'd scored from 6 yards late into extra time, Golden opportunity missed. This is the difference between a top class striker and a striker that needs 3/4 attempts at goal to score once.
If I was Wells I'd have that contract signed sharpish, he's never going to get a better chance of playing Premier football and fight for his spot and the pitch.
Dean Hoyle won't let him walk away in 12 months for nothing.

So basically, if you're not Gerd Muller then you're not good enough for our club. It will be interesting to see how much more clinical 10.5 million mounie is . We may be in for a surprise.. meanwhile Izzy "missed open goals against Wednesday and reading " Brown still harbours hopes of playing for Chelsea. How can this be possible ?

10.5 million Ted is peanuts for a Premier striker, we've bought potential.  You're surely kidding yourself if you think Wells is good enough for the Premier league, chances taken, chances missed ratio.
Now where can Town find a Gerd Muller or Schillaci for 10.5 million

[Chips Longhorn]

Jul 30, 2017 9:04:22 GMT 1 Thwarting Dog said:

Jul 30, 2017 8:50:30 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

So basically, if you're not Gerd Muller then you're not good enough for our club. It will be interesting to see how much more clinical 10.5 million mounie is . We may be in for a surprise.. meanwhile Izzy "missed open goals against Wednesday and reading " Brown still harbours hopes of playing for Chelsea. How can this be possible ?

10.5 million Ted is peanuts for a Premier striker, we've bought potential.  You're surely kidding yourself if you think Wells is good enough for the Premier league, chances taken, chances missed ratio.
Now where can Town find a Gerd Muller or Schillaci for 10.5 million

I've openly questioned whether he's good enough for the prem.. but strikers miss chances !! The kid scored nearly 20 championship goals in a shit team the season before last and still got pelters. If people are expecting we are going to sign strikers far more clinical than wells they might be in for a surprise

Ps schillaci wasn't in the same parish as Muller as a finisher

[y2troy]

Can see this from both angles , both parties dont owe eachother anything . If we gave Wells a contract ,then would have been improved money a signing on fee and the way things are going is not good enough for premiership , albeit just opinions of fans and our management team. Then squad harmony an a player rotting in the team , Wagner moulds his team on spirit , we cant just give him a contract just because we worried about a bigger fee.

I think we have done right on all aspects , a contract should be the amount of time we have the player in order to fill our goals as a club , just like a young player if he doesnt cut the grade then we get rid because we dont need him , not because we think we can make money on him some point.

There will be a club that needs a striker like Wells , he will be gone by end of transfer market , he will score goals wherever he goes , but at what level is a different matter . I wish him Well but this club is evolving now and to me Wagner doesnt think he has improved enough , he will end up at ur QPR, Fulham or Birmingham kind ateams , someone with bit of money to spend .

Good Luck Nahki , but HTFC is the be all and end all

[Deleted]

Jul 30, 2017 8:36:51 GMT 1 @htafctom said:

Think it is pretty obvious he has one foot out of the door already. Wagner wouldn't have said what he did if he was going to stay and then not being with the squad to Austria due to injury confirms it even further. Tommy Smith is out there and he's definitely injured! Injury or not, if Nahki was going to be part of the squad next season he'd be out there with them injury or not injury.

The question now is how much can we get for him.

Tommy Smith is back in training and could well play in Austria.

[morleyterrier]

Jul 30, 2017 9:04:22 GMT 1 Thwarting Dog said:

Jul 30, 2017 8:50:30 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

So basically, if you're not Gerd Muller then you're not good enough for our club. It will be interesting to see how much more clinical 10.5 million mounie is . We may be in for a surprise.. meanwhile Izzy "missed open goals against Wednesday and reading " Brown still harbours hopes of playing for Chelsea. How can this be possible ?

10.5 million Ted is peanuts for a Premier striker, we've bought potential.  You're surely kidding yourself if you think Wells is good enough for the Premier league, chances taken, chances missed ratio.
Now where can Town find a Gerd Muller or Schillaci for 10.5 million

We don't know Wells isn't good enough do we?. He may not be, he may be!. I personally am of the latter view and very much want him to stay.

Good Players raise their game when the quality around them is raised. Wells will be no different (in my opinion!).

Wells for some reason doesn't get the Credit he deserves from Town fans and I genuinely don't see why.

[Deleted]

Jul 30, 2017 9:10:41 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

Jul 30, 2017 9:04:22 GMT 1 Thwarting Dog said:

10.5 million Ted is peanuts for a Premier striker, we've bought potential.  You're surely kidding yourself if you think Wells is good enough for the Premier league, chances taken, chances missed ratio.
Now where can Town find a Gerd Muller or Schillaci for 10.5 million

I've openly questioned whether he's good enough for the prem.. but strikers miss chances !! The kid scored nearly 20 championship goals in a shit team the season before last and still got pelters. If people are expecting we are going to sign strikers far more clinical than wells they might be in for a surprise

Ps schillaci wasn't in the same parish as Muller as a finisher

thats what i thought
Gerd Muller
had a supplier called Gerd Muller, never felt very comfortable negotiating with him.

[Melc]

Looks like Reading want him but can they afford him?


www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport/15442493.READING_FC__Jaap_Stam_urged_Royals__bosses_to_lure_top_targets_as_club_continues_to_chase_Nahki_Wells/

[Headless Chicken]

Jul 30, 2017 9:10:41 GMT 1 Chips Longhorn said:

Jul 30, 2017 9:04:22 GMT 1 Thwarting Dog said:

10.5 million Ted is peanuts for a Premier striker, we've bought potential.  You're surely kidding yourself if you think Wells is good enough for the Premier league, chances taken, chances missed ratio.
Now where can Town find a Gerd Muller or Schillaci for 10.5 million

I've openly questioned whether he's good enough for the prem.. but strikers miss chances !! The kid scored nearly 20 championship goals in a shit team the season before last and still got pelters. If people are expecting we are going to sign strikers far more clinical than wells they might be in for a surprise

Ps schillaci wasn't in the same parish as Muller as a finisher

At times it seems like our fans don't watch any other football. Go on You Tube and within seconds you can find far worse misses by world class players (Neymar and Christian Ronaldo are in the first compilation I found).

[Deleted]

Jul 30, 2017 10:24:57 GMT 1 Melc said:

Looks like Reading want him but can they afford him?


www.readingchronicle.co.uk/sport/15442493.READING_FC__Jaap_Stam_urged_Royals__bosses_to_lure_top_targets_as_club_continues_to_chase_Nahki_Wells/

IM sure a deal will be reached if all three partys want it too.

[Big Ern]

If Wells goes to the championship it will look like Wells was a stepping stone for Huddersfield, not the other way around.

[On the Sidelines]

I think Sunderland would be a better next move for him... let's just see what happens, surely concluded this week??

[Gold Coast Terrier]

Let's just hope there's more than one club interested, that's all you need for his contract status to be meaningless.

[teddytheterrier]

Seems like there will be a concrete offer made from Reading this week. In this crazy market Wells is easily worth £8m imo, but with the contract situation id be amazed if we get that. I really can't see him playing for town again, and if Reading offer in the region of £5-8m I reckon we'll sell, don't get me wrong I like Nahki and I think he's a good player but he's certainly not irreplaceable. Good luck to him if he decides he wants to move on.

[irverino]

Thought Burnley were after Wells? They got Arfield cheaply, what was Robins thinking?

[burtonbob]

Jul 29, 2017 15:22:34 GMT 1 Convictatthemac said:

Wells not in the squad for Austria, apparently left behind because of his ankle.

Interesting when you think we can only name a 25 man premier league squad. There's 27 there with 2 left behind. So 4 players need to be out. Presume one is Hudson, even if we don't go with Cavare maybe there will be another right back. So who would the other 3 be? Do we need to put 3 keepers in or can they be emergency keeper situation? I would say Bunn, Lolley (although playing well pre season but then maybe Wells is the one or Whitehead but why extend contract unless obviously coaching option. Someone's going to miss out.

[artysid]

Jul 30, 2017 7:23:56 GMT 1 malcolmbrown said:

If he does go I wish him well. That coolly taken penalty under immense pressure at Wembley is one of the reasons we're in the Premier League.

TBH I didn't think he looked particularly good in any of the new shirts though.