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Post by ajsfad on Nov 6, 2017 11:48:56 GMT 1
No it's not a perfectly reasonable question, you can't judge the board on something that hasn't happened yet and conveniently forget about all the years the board has worked their arses off to get us to where we are today! That's the attitude of clueless pundits who think we aren't worth the time of day and fans who think we should be competing with city and united at the top of the league. From previous experience we know that if Wagner thinks he needs something in the January transfer window they will go out and get them for him. We spent £40million in the summer, what do they have to prove really. Last Jan they went and got Izzy and Quaner for him, and good signings they proved to be too! There's nothing to see here other than Garth trying to make it sound like he has any idea how a football club is run or a team managed.
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Post by andyeastleake on Nov 6, 2017 12:03:55 GMT 1
The full context around his question... “Staying in the Premier League can be extremely expensive, but the rewards can be immense. Huddersfield clearly have the right man at the helm - the question I would pose is: Do they have the right men in the boardroom?“ ...It’s a perfectly reasonable question, his entire piece is complimentary.And hopefully it’s a question that the boardroom will answer in January, next summer and beyond. We’ve got a big game of catch up to play if we want to stay here for the duration. I can vaguely (but very vaguely) see where you are coming from as to an extent it is unanswered. However, if I was to rank my concerns about the club given what has gone on over the last few years the quality of the boardroom is so much a non issue it probably wouldn't even make the list. TBH with a miniscule amount of research, I would have thought anyone else would reach the same conclusion. By implication GC is suggesting Dean Hoyle, a long standing loyal supporter of the club, a successful businessman and now (given our rise from the third division to 10th in the Premier league) a proven owner of a football club may not stand comparison with some foreign only in it for the profit investment owner who has little or no connection with the club. TBH I would have thought our owner should be under scrutiny much less than the other PL owners.
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Post by alex on Nov 6, 2017 12:14:04 GMT 1
I will keep it simple. Garth Crooks is a cock. Dean Hoyle is a legend.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 12:25:49 GMT 1
^^yeah I can see how many (especially Town fans) would read this piece with that in their minds.
There certainly are question marks around our boards collective ability to deliver a sustainable Premier League future that need further addressing or comforting though....Burnley and Winter have definitely not earned a comfy seat yet, and the ongoing instability in our Football Operations post pretty much since prior to Ross Wilson leaving remains an area that needs to look a lot more solid over the next two or three years.
As Town fans we gain comfort from the strong leadership and massive buy in to the club from Hoyle, Jarvis and Hough, but looking at it coldly, that’s just half of the boardroom makeup.
(I’m sure Crooks wasn’t referring to, and doesn’t have awareness of anyone in our boardroom (he may have heard of Dean Hoyle through his occasional TV spots) though, he’s just putting the question out there, a bit like Otium did early last season when his question was also misinterpreted as a statement of opinion that the season was going nowhere)
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Post by ajsfad on Nov 6, 2017 12:39:37 GMT 1
^^yeah I can see how many (especially Town fans) would read this piece with that in their minds. There certainly are question marks around our boards collective ability to deliver a sustainable Premier League future that need further addressing or comforting though....Burnley and Winter have definitely not earned a comfy seat yet, and the ongoing instability in our Football Operations post pretty much since prior to Ross Wilson leaving remains an area that needs to look a lot more solid over the next two or three years. As Town fans we gain comfort from the strong leadership and massive buy in to the club from Hoyle, Jarvis and Hough, but looking at it coldly, that’s just half of the boardroom makeup. (I’m sure Crooks wasn’t referring to, and doesn’t have awareness of anyone in our boardroom (he may have heard of Dean Hoyle through his occasional TV spots) though, he’s just putting the question out there, a bit like Otium did early last season when his question was also misinterpreted as a statement of opinion that the season was going nowhere) We weren't expected to even be here nevermind trying to solidify it. Since Ross Wilson left, we have had Stuart Webber (hired Wagner) and Moss, involved in summer spending. They may not have been here long but we got out of them what we wanted. That has been at the orchestration of Dean and the board. This is the attitude that will see empty seats and boos from the crowd if and when we start to lose regularly in the prem. Sustainable premier league future is not a target it's a bonus. I'm more bothered about being a sustainable top... 30 club (top ten of championship and up). Striving for more than that just because a load of dosh has come in to the club (it's come in to a lot of clubs, more than 20 for sure), will lead to the trap door opening and puts the whole club at risk. If I was on the board now I'd be updating training facilities to rival others, I'd be giving the foundations of the club everything that is required for a sustainable exciting future whether in or out of the premier league. If all that leads to a prolonged stay in the prem then so be it but the prem is not the be all and end all. I know that is the attitude of Dean and the board and so I am delighted with who is in charge of the club regardless of whether they go an spend £100m or 10 bob in the transfer window.
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Post by dewsburyterrier on Nov 6, 2017 12:53:41 GMT 1
Some media people call clubs that spend way over the amount they earn as "ambitious". I would rather us stay sovent then follow the path of some of the previous "ambitious" clubs. Take your pick, but most are outside the PL.
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Post by El Presidente on Nov 6, 2017 13:19:25 GMT 1
What’s so hard about his last name aswell? Referred to him as “La Parra”, seen others in the media get it wrong aswell. Yesterday Lineker just called him Parra It's done deliberately. You wouldn't get them calling van persie 'persie' or van der Vaart 'Vaart'. Yes it was done deliberately, it was a play on words, what he said was "Parra shoots" obviously referring to the remembrance games. Think about it before becoming offended.
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Post by towny on Nov 6, 2017 13:20:13 GMT 1
What’s so hard about his last name aswell? Referred to him as “La Parra”, seen others in the media get it wrong aswell. Yesterday Lineker just called him Parra i call him para, stupid double/triple barrel names
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Post by towny on Nov 6, 2017 13:23:49 GMT 1
What’s so hard about his last name aswell? Referred to him as “La Parra”, seen others in the media get it wrong aswell. Yesterday Lineker just called him Parra Do Sky still think Jorgenson and Zanka are two different players? Crikey, they may think Van La Parra are three different ones! serves the prem right for allowing stupid nicknames
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Post by teddytheterrier on Nov 6, 2017 13:24:15 GMT 1
It's done deliberately. You wouldn't get them calling van persie 'persie' or van der Vaart 'Vaart'. Yes it was done deliberately, it was a play on words, what he said was "Parra shoots" obviously referring to the remembrance games. Think about it before becoming offended. These mistakes the BBC make don't offend me, I find them funny. We have been referred to as hull, Middlesbrough and Sunderland. Our players names are constantly pronounced wrong, tbf at least some have a go unlike Ian Wright who just calls our players 'That Huddersfield player'.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Nov 6, 2017 13:24:36 GMT 1
What’s so hard about his last name aswell? Referred to him as “La Parra”, seen others in the media get it wrong aswell. Yesterday Lineker just called him Parra i call him para, stupid double/triple barrel names You're a moron though.
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Post by Marco4 on Nov 6, 2017 13:25:29 GMT 1
Do Sky still think Jorgenson and Zanka are two different players? Crikey, they may think Van La Parra are three different ones! serves the prem right for allowing stupid nicknames They never used to. Remember Hasselbaink signing for Leeds, and them selling shirt with 9 Jimmy on the back before it had to change
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 14:05:10 GMT 1
What’s so hard about his last name aswell? Referred to him as “La Parra”, seen others in the media get it wrong aswell. Yesterday Lineker just called him Parra i call him para, stupid double/triple barrel names You aren’t paid to get his name right though
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Post by steve65 on Nov 6, 2017 14:31:21 GMT 1
VLP gets in but have you all seen what Garth says about us. "Have they got the right men in the boardroom" About time the BBC got shut of Garth. He's a complete joke totally uninformed and out of touch. We are here because of the board you imbecile! Garth Crooks' team of the week: Morata, Salah, De Bruyne, Kante - www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/41880823The bulgy eyed, over excitable fu*k should stick to country & western singing
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 14:40:44 GMT 1
The full context around his question... “Staying in the Premier League can be extremely expensive, but the rewards can be immense. Huddersfield clearly have the right man at the helm - the question I would pose is: Do they have the right men in the boardroom?“ ...It’s a perfectly reasonable question, his entire piece is complimentary. And hopefully it’s a question that the boardroom will answer in January, next summer and beyond. We’ve got a big game of catch up to play if we want to stay here for the duration. I Will answer crooks this way If overspending and getting us in the position sunderland Bristol city Blackburn etc and leeds did the answer is no we havnt the right men in the board room.If it means sensible investment within our means and keeping the club on a even keel yes we have the right men in the boardroom. In Dean and the board we have the right people in charge.End of story
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 14:45:32 GMT 1
He does realise we were relegated to league two due to spending above our means and very nearly folded, right?
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Post by keithAM11532 on Nov 6, 2017 14:49:35 GMT 1
The full context around his question... “Staying in the Premier League can be extremely expensive, but the rewards can be immense. Huddersfield clearly have the right man at the helm - the question I would pose is: Do they have the right men in the boardroom?“ ...It’s a perfectly reasonable question, his entire piece is complimentary. And hopefully it’s a question that the boardroom will answer in January, next summer and beyond. We’ve got a big game of catch up to play if we want to stay here for the duration. I Will answer crooks this way If overspending and getting us in the position sunderland Bristol city Blackburn etc and leeds did the answer is no we havnt the right men in the board room.If it means sensible investment within our means and keeping the club on a even keel yes we have the right men in the boardroom. In Dean and the board we have the right people in charge.End of story I am not one for phoning the spelling police, but that's a terrible post mate. NB. I see you edited it somewhat.
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Post by Mastercracker on Nov 6, 2017 14:55:47 GMT 1
He does realise we were relegated to league two due to spending above our means and very nearly folded, right? I doubt he could name what league we were in 3 years ago, never mind 15.
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Post by aydansatownfan on Nov 6, 2017 15:01:00 GMT 1
The crazy thing about this thread is that actually most of us are right !! Yes we do have a board that cares about the future not just the present ! In Dean we trust! But yes we will need to spend in January , just likes Garth Crooks is intimating, what he doesn’t know is that Dean Hoyle is one of the most successful business men in the country and he will know when to invest and when to say no, plus in Wagner we have a manager that knows every single player must fit in to the team , club and dressing room which we all pray will ensure premier league status utt , no limits
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 15:01:19 GMT 1
I Will answer crooks this way If overspending and getting us in the position sunderland Bristol city Blackburn etc and leeds did the answer is no we havnt the right men in the board room.If it means sensible investment within our means and keeping the club on a even keel yes we have the right men in the boardroom. In Dean and the board we have the right people in charge.End of story I am not one for phoning the spelling police, but that's a terrible post mate. NB. I see you edited it somewhat. ok fair point but hope you agree with my post.UTT
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Post by keithAM11532 on Nov 6, 2017 15:04:11 GMT 1
A fair bit of overreaction on here I think. He is right, staying in the PL is an expensive business.We are not exactly the last of the big spenders. Look how the media salivated on our promotion with Rotherhams budget. Yes we brought in some terrific new players for our $40M, but we will need to splash some cash come January when injuries set in and the skeletal depth of our squad is revealed. Its a big decision for our board. Everyone is amazed at how well we have done thus far, maybe that is the cause for uncertainty. If we were rock bottom, then you could understand accepting the drop and regrouping next season. So all in all - a perfectly researched and valid question.
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Post by ACW on Nov 6, 2017 16:29:45 GMT 1
You'd think Gary Lineker would clue him up..... Would rather he'd glue him up.
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Post by leedsroadrob on Nov 6, 2017 20:03:36 GMT 1
Sieves still have to be washed though.
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Post by townfan on Nov 6, 2017 20:16:47 GMT 1
What on earth was his reasoning behind that statement? His main reason behind it to be fair, was that he hadn't a clue what he was talking about
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Post by townfan on Nov 6, 2017 20:19:27 GMT 1
A fair bit of overreaction on here I think. He is right, staying in the PL is an expensive business.We are not exactly the last of the big spenders. Look how the media salivated on our promotion with Rotherhams budget. Yes we brought in some terrific new players for our $40M, but we will need to splash some cash come January when injuries set in and the skeletal depth of our squad is revealed. Its a big decision for our board. Everyone is amazed at how well we have done thus far, maybe that is the cause for uncertainty. If we were rock bottom, then you could understand accepting the drop and regrouping next season. So all in all - a perfectly researched and valid question. The decision has been taken and they know who they want. Total cock of a presenter who's every word is important in the vast empty spaces of his mind
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Post by Stewpot on Nov 6, 2017 21:18:43 GMT 1
It's done deliberately. You wouldn't get them calling van persie 'persie' or van der Vaart 'Vaart'. Absolutely. It's not as if Dutch players with similar names have been a rarity in the Premier League is it? He was good !
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 21:45:08 GMT 1
I think he means have the board got the balls to splash the cash,,,,,Im more riled by this statement ---West Brom were unlucky to lose against the Terriers
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2017 21:46:21 GMT 1
Absolutely. It's not as if Dutch players with similar names have been a rarity in the Premier League is it? He was good ! used to love that when i was a pup
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Post by willo on Nov 7, 2017 1:41:15 GMT 1
There are 2 types of ex-pro's who go on to become pundits who's opinions hold some gravitas. Those who have enjoyed a distinguished playing career - preferably winning honours regularly along the way - or those who perhaps didn't have an extraordinary playing career but have stayed in the game to manage which they have done consistently over many seasons. Garth Crooks was/is in neither of these categories. Added to this, he must have been retired close on 30 years. He was a decent player at Spurs and then ManU but nothing more and I certainly don't remember him ever being a manager. Tbf, I thought the BBC had stopped using him as a pundit years ago!
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Post by Der Scheißbomber on Nov 7, 2017 8:29:38 GMT 1
Sieves still have to be washed though. Only one thing worse than that, and Crooks knows all about that! (BTW, I've worn my Dukla Prague away shirt under my Town shirt for the last 2 home games... )
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