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Post by 66738 on Jul 8, 2018 15:48:16 GMT 1
God! Am rough this morning but 'oh what a night'. About as straight forward a performance and win as you could ever wish for in a Quarter final. Can't remember a single arse tremor. England was pretty much in full control. Well done boys! You are doing us proud. Apart from the 3 quality saves from Pickford? They actually created better goalscoring opportunities from open play than we did which is still concerning as we also created very few against Columbia Good fortune seems to be with us this time though so hopefully we can keep riding it to the final D'ya know what? All them 3 saves, I felt really comfortable. Never doubted Pickford. Just had faith in him. ( and I'm normally really panicky when other teams are attacking so advanced)
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 8, 2018 15:59:42 GMT 1
The two clearest chances Sterling has missed in these finals, he was offside for both and neither would have counted. Think this stupid new rule about the lino not putting his flag up until the 'phase' has finished hasn;t helped sterling as Im sure a lot of people were never aware he was offside. Hes frustrating a lot of fans who just base their opinions on hard stats like goals and assists. But he makes runs and gives us an out ball for the full 90 minutes when other players have tired, and he never hides, always wanting it, always showing for it. Thats why Southgate likes him so much. You’re not referring to the one yesterday where Sterling’s shot was eventually blocked for a corner are you? No, was meaning one before that. Quite similar but he was a yard off when put through. Think the one one you mean is the one where he tried to round the keeper but he got a hand to it. Might have passed to Kane but tried to get his shot off and it got blocked out for a corner. He might have done better but also it was good defending. Point is on that chance, I don;t think we have another player who has the speed to have got on the end of that through ball by Henderson anyway.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jul 8, 2018 16:03:35 GMT 1
You’re not referring to the one yesterday where Sterling’s shot was eventually blocked for a corner are you? No, was meaning one before that. Quite similar but he was a yard off when put through. Think the one one you mean is the one where he tried to round the keeper but he got a hand to it. Might have passed to Kane but tried to get his shot off and it got blocked out for a corner. He might have done better but also it was good defending. Point is on that chance, I don;t think we have another player who has the speed to have got on the end of that through ball by Henderson anyway. Why are you ignoring the fact that Sterling didn't know he was offside? He tried to score yesterday, it was a very simple chance and he just hit it straight at the keeper For a top player his composure is dreadful
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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 8, 2018 16:03:39 GMT 1
It is quite incredible that a team so limited as England with a porous midfield and an inability to retain possession in the final 20 minutes of a game has reached the semi finals. It feels like watching Town in the FA cup - you squeak past Bolton and Brum but then draw Man U and lose. I’d give us a 20% chance in the semifinal and a 5% chance if we got to the final but you never can tell, I guess.
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 8, 2018 16:16:40 GMT 1
It is quite incredible that a team so limited as England with a porous midfield and an inability to retain possession in the final 20 minutes of a game has reached the semi finals. It feels like watching Town in the FA cup - you squeak past Bolton and Brum but then draw Man U and lose. I’d give us a 20% chance in the semifinal and a 5% chance if we got to the final but you never can tell, I guess. If you think Croatia are a four to one on shot to win you should be lumping on at 11/4! Fill your boots. I make the semi-final 55:45 in England's favour. The final about the reverse against Belgium or 60:40 for France against us.
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Post by galpharm2400 on Jul 8, 2018 16:18:08 GMT 1
It is quite incredible that a team so limited as England with a porous midfield and an inability to retain possession in the final 20 minutes of a game has reached the semi finals. It feels like watching Town in the FA cup - you squeak past Bolton and Brum but then draw Man U and lose. I’d give us a 20% chance in the semifinal and a 5% chance if we got to the final but you never can tell, I guess. we have had 'better quality players' and better defenders and a goal scorer in previous tournaments.. it therefore follows that lesser teams than us at those times got further in the competition than we did.. swings and roundabouts, I think, down to luck, injuries, decisions other teams ineptness to transfer their superior 'quality' into results?? maybe our 'stars' have aligned this time? 3 games to get the 'right results' and then a cup competition of 4 games, penalty shoot outs and luck of the draw.. get your shit together for a few weeks and you have, as we can see, a good chance.. btw, our inability to retain posession yesterday saw us have 3 breaks that we really should have made more off.. swings and roundabouts?
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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 8, 2018 16:21:58 GMT 1
It is quite incredible that a team so limited as England with a porous midfield and an inability to retain possession in the final 20 minutes of a game has reached the semi finals. It feels like watching Town in the FA cup - you squeak past Bolton and Brum but then draw Man U and lose. I’d give us a 20% chance in the semifinal and a 5% chance if we got to the final but you never can tell, I guess. If you think Croatia are a four to one on shot to win you should be lumping on at 11/4! Fill your boots. I make the semi-final 55:45 in England's favour. The final about the reverse against Belgium or 60:40 for France against us. Odds quoted are90 mins. I’d lump loads on Croatia but don’t like betting against England, just as I don’t like betting against Town.
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 8, 2018 16:27:46 GMT 1
If you think Croatia are a four to one on shot to win you should be lumping on at 11/4! Fill your boots. I make the semi-final 55:45 in England's favour. The final about the reverse against Belgium or 60:40 for France against us. Odds quoted are90 mins. I’d lump loads on Croatia but don’t like betting against England, just as I don’t like betting against Town. Fair enough, me neither.
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Post by upthetown on Jul 8, 2018 17:03:17 GMT 1
The two clearest chances Sterling has missed in these finals, he was offside for both and neither would have counted. Think this stupid new rule about the lino not putting his flag up until the 'phase' has finished hasn;t helped sterling as Im sure a lot of people were never aware he was offside. Hes frustrating a lot of fans who just base their opinions on hard stats like goals and assists. But he makes runs and gives us an out ball for the full 90 minutes when other players have tired, and he never hides, always wanting it, always showing for it. Thats why Southgate likes him so much. I'd still start Rashford over him every day of the week. As frustrating as he can be I’d start him... we lost the only game he didn’t start. Rashford missed a good chance vs belgium too. It happens.
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Post by griffa on Jul 8, 2018 17:37:15 GMT 1
You’re not referring to the one yesterday where Sterling’s shot was eventually blocked for a corner are you? No, was meaning one before that. Quite similar but he was a yard off when put through. Think the one one you mean is the one where he tried to round the keeper but he got a hand to it. Might have passed to Kane but tried to get his shot off and it got blocked out for a corner. He might have done better but also it was good defending. Point is on that chance, I don;t think we have another player who has the speed to have got on the end of that through ball by Henderson anyway. We have Vardy (injured yesterday) & Rashford, both very fast players. Sterling is without doubt a top class player. Unfortunately he hasn't scored for England, for 2 years! He's playing as a 2nd striker, fortunately v Sweden, it didn't really matter. Croatia will be far more difficult. Kane & Sterling partnership, not working, like to see Kane, play a more central attacking role. The lack of chances from open play, is a real concern!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2018 17:37:54 GMT 1
You’re not referring to the one yesterday where Sterling’s shot was eventually blocked for a corner are you? No, was meaning one before that. Quite similar but he was a yard off when put through. Think the one one you mean is the one where he tried to round the keeper but he got a hand to it. Might have passed to Kane but tried to get his shot off and it got blocked out for a corner. He might have done better but also it was good defending. Point is on that chance, I don;t think we have another player who has the speed to have got on the end of that through ball by Henderson anyway. Yes that was the one.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 8, 2018 17:45:27 GMT 1
I genuinely feel sorry for people who negatively dissect our performances and players. I am loving this tournament, I think the players have been fantastic, our tactics pretty much spot on, selection seems to be right every time. It’s great days for me, bollocks to everyone else.
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Post by Mav on Jul 8, 2018 17:49:45 GMT 1
I genuinely feel sorry for people who negatively dissect our performances and players. I am loving this tournament, I think the players have been fantastic, our tactics pretty much spot on, selection seems to be right every time. It’s great days for me, bollocks to everyone else. Good lad. Me too.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 8, 2018 17:53:56 GMT 1
No, was meaning one before that. Quite similar but he was a yard off when put through. Think the one one you mean is the one where he tried to round the keeper but he got a hand to it. Might have passed to Kane but tried to get his shot off and it got blocked out for a corner. He might have done better but also it was good defending. Point is on that chance, I don;t think we have another player who has the speed to have got on the end of that through ball by Henderson anyway. Why are you ignoring the fact that Sterling didn't know he was offside? He tried to score yesterday, it was a very simple chance and he just hit it straight at the keeper For a top player his composure is dreadful Not ignoring it, just saying it wouldn;t have counted anyway. Hes not a natural finisher. Think thats obvious. But he does offer the side a lot despite that.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 8, 2018 17:56:13 GMT 1
It is quite incredible that a team so limited as England with a porous midfield and an inability to retain possession in the final 20 minutes of a game has reached the semi finals. It feels like watching Town in the FA cup - you squeak past Bolton and Brum but then draw Man U and lose. I’d give us a 20% chance in the semifinal and a 5% chance if we got to the final but you never can tell, I guess. All thats just very silly isn't it.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 8, 2018 18:01:27 GMT 1
If you think Croatia are a four to one on shot to win you should be lumping on at 11/4! Fill your boots. I make the semi-final 55:45 in England's favour. The final about the reverse against Belgium or 60:40 for France against us. Odds quoted are90 mins. I’d lump loads on Croatia but don’t like betting against England, just as I don’t like betting against Town. Yeah no one likes making easy money.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 8, 2018 18:04:11 GMT 1
I genuinely feel sorry for people who negatively dissect our performances and players. I am loving this tournament, I think the players have been fantastic, our tactics pretty much spot on, selection seems to be right every time. It’s great days for me, bollocks to everyone else. There'd be less people declaring their 'concerns' if we'd have been knocked out already 😂
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Post by ben1987 on Jul 8, 2018 18:24:10 GMT 1
Get off Sterling's case for fucks sake It’s just flock moronic mentality. Southgate clearly knows he’s the only one who can go past a man with skill or beat them for pace...a bit like vlp in Town colours. Three danger moments created by Sterling yesterday one which led to a corner for the goal the other was the pass befor the assist. And for all the plastic scousers in the junction pub yesterday- he left you because he was signed by a bigger club where he would win things. Get over it. Just like you did with Brexit? 😬
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 8, 2018 18:31:25 GMT 1
It is quite incredible that a team so limited as England with a porous midfield and an inability to retain possession in the final 20 minutes of a game has reached the semi finals. It feels like watching Town in the FA cup - you squeak past Bolton and Brum but then draw Man U and lose. I’d give us a 20% chance in the semifinal and a 5% chance if we got to the final but you never can tell, I guess. If you think Croatia are a four to one on shot to win you should be lumping on at 11/4! Fill your boots. I make the semi-final 55:45 in England's favour. The final about the reverse against Belgium or 60:40 for France against us. That looks about right. however we are improving and the Croats have had a hard fortnight. Nothing says France and Belgium wont go to 120 mins and lose players. I dont think there is a standout favorite, largely because of the way the semis are split. 2 apparently weaker teams in one leg.
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Post by allan 1958 (OAF-WROY)(SSLFF) on Jul 8, 2018 18:33:02 GMT 1
It is quite incredible that a team so limited as England with a porous midfield and an inability to retain possession in the final 20 minutes of a game has reached the semi finals. It feels like watching Town in the FA cup - you squeak past Bolton and Brum but then draw Man U and lose. I’d give us a 20% chance in the semifinal and a 5% chance if we got to the final but you never can tell, I guess. All thats just very silly isn't it. yes
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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 8, 2018 18:42:14 GMT 1
It is quite incredible that a team so limited as England with a porous midfield and an inability to retain possession in the final 20 minutes of a game has reached the semi finals. It feels like watching Town in the FA cup - you squeak past Bolton and Brum but then draw Man U and lose. I’d give us a 20% chance in the semifinal and a 5% chance if we got to the final but you never can tell, I guess. All thats just very silly isn't it. No
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Post by mightytj on Jul 8, 2018 18:56:22 GMT 1
All thats just very silly isn't it. No Oh it is
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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 8, 2018 19:11:39 GMT 1
No it really isn’t though some folk out there think we are Brazil 1970.
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Post by Headless Chicken on Jul 8, 2018 19:17:31 GMT 1
I don't think there's a single person claiming this is an outstanding group of players, rather it's a good to very good 'team' that has so far done everything asked of it, exceeding what most of us would've expected.
You're over analysing it, and arguably badly, instead of just enjoying it.
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 8, 2018 19:19:14 GMT 1
No it really isn’t though some folk out there think we are Brazil 1970. England would have kicked their arses if we hadn't fucked up the subs in the semi.
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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 8, 2018 19:23:00 GMT 1
No it really isn’t though some folk out there think we are Brazil 1970. England would have kicked their arses if we hadn't fucked up the subs in the semi. Actually we fucked up the QF. I do think England had a better side in 1970 than we did in 1966 but Ramsey screwed up with the subs that day and Bonetti failed to cover himself in glory. I’m sure we’d have got to the final and given Brazil a hell of a game (more than Italy did).
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Post by Is It Eidur Gudjohnsen on Jul 8, 2018 19:29:56 GMT 1
I don't think there's a single person claiming this is an outstanding group of players, rather it's a good to very good 'team' that has so far done everything asked of it; exceeding what most of us would've expected. You're over analysing it, and arguably badly, instead of just enjoying it. I'm trying to think of a club who together are more than the sum of their parts and have continued to confound their critics by doing what others said couldn't happen....
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Post by froggyterrier on Jul 8, 2018 19:40:25 GMT 1
England are the "worst" of the 4 remaining teams.
Brilliant! Having 11 world class players hasn't worked for us at all. More than happy to see Henderson, Dier, Maguire, Stones, Trippier, Walker, Pickford and all the other less than world 11 candidates keep winning as a team.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 8, 2018 20:13:50 GMT 1
No, was meaning one before that. Quite similar but he was a yard off when put through. Think the one one you mean is the one where he tried to round the keeper but he got a hand to it. Might have passed to Kane but tried to get his shot off and it got blocked out for a corner. He might have done better but also it was good defending. Point is on that chance, I don;t think we have another player who has the speed to have got on the end of that through ball by Henderson anyway. We have Vardy (injured yesterday) & Rashford, both very fast players. Sterling is without doubt a top class player. Unfortunately he hasn't scored for England, for 2 years! He's playing as a 2nd striker, fortunately v Sweden, it didn't really matter. Croatia will be far more difficult. Kane & Sterling partnership, not working, like to see Kane, play a more central attacking role. The lack of chances from open play, is a real concern! Sorry mate - think the opposite - Kane - Sterling combo is an ideal blend for me. I have no concern about chances from open play either. We had some excellent opportunities yesterday teed up by Henderson, Trippier, Sterling and Lindgard. Southgate is making a brave attacking decision every match by only playing one holding type midfielder - that's making a big difference
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 8, 2018 20:20:20 GMT 1
I don't think there's a single person claiming this is an outstanding group of players, rather it's a good to very good 'team' that has so far done everything asked of it; exceeding what most of us would've expected. You're over analysing it, and arguably badly, instead of just enjoying it. When it's done and dusted I think there will be quite a few England players in the team of the tournament. Trippier probably pencilled in already.
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