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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 8, 2018 21:47:35 GMT 1
I don't think there's a single person claiming this is an outstanding group of players, rather it's a good to very good 'team' that has so far done everything asked of it; exceeding what most of us would've expected. You're over analysing it, and arguably badly, instead of just enjoying it. When it's done and dusted I think there will be quite a few England players in the team of the tournament. Trippier probably pencilled in already. Agree that Trippier has been exceptional. Our best player and vying with Pavard as the best player in (roughly) his position.
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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 8, 2018 21:57:23 GMT 1
Odds quoted are90 mins. I’d lump loads on Croatia but don’t like betting against England, just as I don’t like betting against Town. Yeah no one likes making easy money. Just spotted this you cheeky fucker. I posted several times that betting on Town to lose away games going for a 2-0, 3-0 or 4-0 score was a good bet last season but never put the bet on because it doesn’t seem right to bet against your own team. It came in about 8 or 9 times.
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Post by sapphireblue on Jul 8, 2018 22:03:01 GMT 1
England would have kicked their arses if we hadn't fucked up the subs in the semi. Actually we fucked up the QF. I do think England had a better side in 1970 than we did in 1966 but Ramsey screwed up with the subs that day and Bonetti failed to cover himself in glory. I’m sure we’d have got to the final and given Brazil a hell of a game (more than Italy did). Oops. Of course it was, sorry. I can only blame the Vocation, Life & Death for that slip.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 8, 2018 22:38:43 GMT 1
No it really isn’t though some folk out there think we are Brazil 1970. Thats also just very silly.
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Post by hypotenuse on Jul 8, 2018 22:45:22 GMT 1
No it really isn’t though some folk out there think we are Brazil 1970. Thats also just very silly. So you have claimed the following are silly: England have porous midfield - poor Jordan Henderson virtually singlehandedly asked to repel the opposition. England struggle to retain possession in the final 20 mins - they even did against Panama! Look at the stats. Some folk are overstating our ability- so are the bookies! I don’t believe any of those are silly but if that’s the best you can do in response can I suggest you don’t bother until you can make a better contribution.
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 8, 2018 23:17:59 GMT 1
Ok, Ill break it down for you in terms of the bits that are silly-
It is quite incredible that a team so limited as England silly- have you been watching this tournament at all? with a porous midfield silly- wheres that then? and an inability to retain possession in the final 20 minutes of a game silly- not really has reached the semi finals. It feels like watching Town in the FA cup silly- no it doesnt - you squeak past Bolton and Brum but then draw Man U and lose. silly- Croatia are to international football what man Utd are in the prem??Are they really??! I’d give us a 20% chance in the semifinal mindblowingly silly and a 5% chance if we got to the final silly but you never can tell, I guess.
No it really isn’t though some folk out there think we are Brazil 1970. silly- no they haven't
Its basically just silly exaggerations that don;t actually have any relation to reality.
We don;t have a porous midfield. Discounting the Belgium reserve game, weve conceded 3 goals in 4 games and of those 3, one was from a corner and one a penalty. We haven;t conceded an unusual amount of chances or been torn apart at any stage. So where is this porous midfield??
Again, discounting the reserves game, Weve dominated all the games practically throughout. Of course sides who are losing get desperate and pile on the pressure near the end if they can, but whats this claim we can't hold onto possession in the last 20 about? Nonsense. And are you likening Croatia to man utd?? Why exactly? Why do Croatia have an 80% chance of beating us? Thats beyond silly. 5% chance of beating France or belgium? We would be underdogs but again, beyond silly. You think if we played either of them 20 times, we'd win 1 and theyd win 19 ?? Very silly.
And who exactly has likened this england team to the one that is generally considered THE best team of all time?? Exactly, no one has. Or even suggested anything that remotely comes close to it. Its just silly puerile nonsense.
I think some people just want to be pissed off. Theyre pissed off when we fail, and theyre pissed off when we succeed. Youre post comes across like that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 0:28:24 GMT 1
We have Vardy (injured yesterday) & Rashford, both very fast players. Sterling is without doubt a top class player. Unfortunately he hasn't scored for England, for 2 years! He's playing as a 2nd striker, fortunately v Sweden, it didn't really matter. Croatia will be far more difficult. Kane & Sterling partnership, not working, like to see Kane, play a more central attacking role. The lack of chances from open play, is a real concern! Sorry mate - think the opposite - Kane - Sterling combo is an ideal blend for me. I have no concern about chances from open play either. We had some excellent opportunities yesterday teed up by Henderson, Trippier, Sterling and Lindgard. Southgate is making a brave attacking decision every match by only playing one holding type midfielder - that's making a big difference Agree about his brave selection. Question is whether he will continue to go for it against Croatia or does he bring loftus cheek in for Alli and keep it a bit tighter.
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 9, 2018 0:32:40 GMT 1
England rightly set off to the World Cup without the usual high expectations.
A Quarter final appearance pre-tournamount would have been seen by many (including me) as a success, but events have transpired to give England a better chance of progressing further in the tournamount.
I don't believe we are anywhere near the best international team in the world, but that doesn't mean we can't win the World cup, I can feel 2 successive nil nil peanlty shootout wins could repeat themselves from 2 years ago to give Town fans that lovely deja vu feeling.
Being realistic about our quality and limitations doesn't stop anyone from enjoying our current run and revelling in the success of our national team.
We have had unperforming individuals in the national team for decades - it makes a refreshing change to see our (maybe) lesser individuals come together as a team and overachieve. We, as Town fans know exactly that there is no limits if a team fight tooth and nail for each other.
Well done Gareth Southgate for getting this current squad to gel and work so hard for each other.
C'mon England..... it just maybe coming home!
For an English Town fan does it really get any better than it currently is.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 0:36:11 GMT 1
It’s just flock moronic mentality. Southgate clearly knows he’s the only one who can go past a man with skill or beat them for pace...a bit like vlp in Town colours. Three danger moments created by Sterling yesterday one which led to a corner for the goal the other was the pass befor the assist. And for all the plastic scousers in the junction pub yesterday- he left you because he was signed by a bigger club where he would win things. Get over it. Just like you did with Brexit? 😬 Oh there’s a long way to go on that score yet. Liverpool and other supposed England supporters vitriol against sterling so far has been ridiculous and unnecessary. I’d love for him to get the winner. Why boo our own players ffs.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 9, 2018 6:25:14 GMT 1
Yeah no one likes making easy money. Just spotted this you cheeky fucker. I posted several times that betting on Town to lose away games going for a 2-0, 3-0 or 4-0 score was a good bet last season but never put the bet on because it doesn’t seem right to bet against your own team. It came in about 8 or 9 times. 😂😂 I’m the same, can never bet on Town or England to lose, goes against the grain.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 9, 2018 11:55:37 GMT 1
Sorry mate - think the opposite - Kane - Sterling combo is an ideal blend for me. I have no concern about chances from open play either. We had some excellent opportunities yesterday teed up by Henderson, Trippier, Sterling and Lindgard. Southgate is making a brave attacking decision every match by only playing one holding type midfielder - that's making a big difference Agree about his brave selection. Question is whether he will continue to go for it against Croatia or does he bring loftus cheek in for Alli and keep it a bit tighter. I don't mind that change - I think Loftus-Cheek has been a bit under used. The one I meant was I hope he doesn't play two holding midfielders like Henderson and Dier together.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 12:35:26 GMT 1
Agree about his brave selection. Question is whether he will continue to go for it against Croatia or does he bring loftus cheek in for Alli and keep it a bit tighter. I don't mind that change - I think Loftus-Cheek has been a bit under used. The one I meant was I hope he doesn't play two holding midfielders like Henderson and Dier together. Let’s hope not. Dier can’t trap a beg of cement this tournament. Besides that would play straight into their hands.
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 9, 2018 12:42:46 GMT 1
I don't mind that change - I think Loftus-Cheek has been a bit under used. The one I meant was I hope he doesn't play two holding midfielders like Henderson and Dier together. Let’s hope not. Dier can’t trap a beg of cement this tournament. Besides that would play straight into their hands. Its a bold move not to play with two holding midfielders - lets hope he sticks with it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2018 12:52:05 GMT 1
Let’s hope not. Dier can’t trap a beg of cement this tournament. Besides that would play straight into their hands. Its a bold move not to play with two holding midfielders - lets hope he sticks with it. If we gift them possesion we’ll be chasing it for 90 minutes. Now more than anyone we’ve got to attack Croatia and put them under pressure.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Mar 21, 2019 20:18:44 GMT 1
Ha ha! Went to take a photo of the Colombian flag yesterday morning early, but it must have been taken down about 10.00pm Tuesday evening. I'll go and check, but it must depend on how quick Amazon can deliver! You can stick your f*in flag up yer arse You can stick your f*in flag up yer arse You can stick your f*in flag, stick your f*in flag, stick your f*kin flag up yer arse.
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Post by kennyk2 on Mar 21, 2019 20:28:17 GMT 1
... or just this posted through his letterbox!
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Post by aksaiblue on Mar 23, 2019 15:04:55 GMT 1
San Marino next - surely our friends north of the border will run amock
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