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Post by aksaiblue on Jul 5, 2018 10:22:15 GMT 1
Another massive game on Saturday, if we can beat a decent Swedish side, then it would be our first time in the Semis since we beat Cameroon in Italia 90 . The dream is still on...Great times for Town and England fans.
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Post by Farsley Terrier (UK product) on Jul 5, 2018 10:27:06 GMT 1
hope we don't underestimate the swedes. They are where they are on merit just like England.
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Post by VLP Fan Club on Jul 5, 2018 10:27:56 GMT 1
Cant go into this one under estimating Sweden, they have been brilliant so far and it is going to a very difficult game, hoping we can see this one out in normal time and in an ideal world I'd like us to be 2-0 up before the 60/70 minute mark to prevent any further heart attack moments.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 5, 2018 10:35:40 GMT 1
Our record against Sweden is horrendous, bit of a bogey team for us.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 10:40:25 GMT 1
hope we don't underestimate the swedes. They are where they are on merit just like England. I doubt we will and I'm sure they will be a lot better than they were against Switzerland when they defended well but offered very little going forward. Historically we don't do too well against the Swedes and I'm sure it will be a tough game but let's be honest, we would all rather be facing Sweden than any of the four teams in the Friday games, a great chance to reach the semi's. |
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Post by drumriggend on Jul 5, 2018 10:56:15 GMT 1
As long as our boys turnip
The Swedes shud get mashed
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Post by detox on Jul 5, 2018 11:01:30 GMT 1
last 10 games v Sweden...won 2 drawn 5 lost 3...so looks like extra time could be on the cards, so need to pace your drinking to allow for another 30+ minutes of nervous tension maybe ?
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 5, 2018 11:08:27 GMT 1
last 10 games v Sweden...won 2 drawn 5 lost 3...so looks like extra time could be on the cards, so need to pace your drinking to allow for another 30+ minutes of nervous tension maybe ? Didn’t realise we had drawn so many, maybe our previous isn’t as bad as I initially thought. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 5, 2018 11:37:54 GMT 1
last 10 games v Sweden...won 2 drawn 5 lost 3...so looks like extra time could be on the cards, so need to pace your drinking to allow for another 30+ minutes of nervous tension maybe ? Has absolutely no bearing on the game on Saturday. Zlatan's retirement a lot more significance. Sweden have knocked out Holland in the groups, Italy in the play offs, Germany in a very tough group and a decent Swiss side. Think this is one for Sterling to come good in, running through the legs (or over) of those rawboned Swedish defenders. Think they will sit back, not do much and hope for penalties! |
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Post by k1man999 on Jul 5, 2018 11:40:54 GMT 1
Sweden are this year's Iceland. big tough organised few decent players and direct.
No walk over this one.
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Post by explorer on Jul 5, 2018 12:11:51 GMT 1
Our record against Sweden is horrendous, bit of a bogey team for us. Last 8 meetings - England won 2, Sweden won 2 and 4 drawn. So it seems we are Sweden’s bogey team too. I really don’t know how anybody can think that comparing past head to head games should give any indication of how this game will end. You don’t need to look at previous Brazil vs Panama games to work out the likely outcome of such an encounter. Last time we met was 6 years ago and our team had such fine footballers as Steven Caulker, Leon Osman, Ryan Shawcross, Carl Jenkinson and Tom Huddleston in its ranks. The manager has changed, the squad has changed, the way we play has changed. No doubt the same can be said about Sweden. What you can generally say though, is that the Northern European teams have similar styles, resulting in the outcome of most of these games being hard to predict, but a pretty safe bet that they will be close run things. I predict all square after 90 minutes and then...? Based on common sense and how both teams are playing in this tournament, not on historical data. 🙂👍 |
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Post by kennyk2 on Jul 5, 2018 12:19:18 GMT 1
Has the Swedish flag gone up yet? Ha ha! Went to take a photo of the Colombian flag yesterday morning early, but it must have been taken down about 10.00pm Tuesday evening. I'll go and check, but it must depend on how quick Amazon can deliver!  |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Jul 5, 2018 12:42:06 GMT 1
Our record against Sweden is horrendous, bit of a bogey team for us. Last 8 meetings - England won 2, Sweden won 2 and 4 drawn. So it seems we are Sweden’s bogey team too. I really don’t know how anybody can think that comparing past head to head games should give any indication of how this game will end. You don’t need to look at previous Brazil vs Panama games to work out the likely outcome of such an encounter. Last time we met was 6 years ago and our team had such fine footballers as Steven Caulker, Leon Osman, Ryan Shawcross, Carl Jenkinson and Tom Huddleston in its ranks. The manager has changed, the squad has changed, the way we play has changed. No doubt the same can be said about Sweden. What you can generally say though, is that the Northern European teams have similar styles, resulting in the outcome of most of these games being hard to predict, but a pretty safe bet that they will be close run things. I predict all square after 90 minutes and then...? Based on common sense and how both teams are playing in this tournament, not on historical data. 🙂👍 Yeah like I said after my initial post I didn’t realise we had drawn so many. I don’t think anyone had said that previous games have an indication how this one will finish? Teams do play other teams that they never seem to beat, that’s just life and has been that way for years, possibly just random but it definitely does happen, any fan of any club can name a team they hate playing as they never get owt. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 5, 2018 13:21:48 GMT 1
Sweden are this year's Iceland. big tough organised few decent players and direct. No walk over this one. True there are no walkovers. However, England are a very different outfit to the team that faced Iceland. I can't really see any fear in playing against them. Temperature the only worry as it seems to affect Harry, but same for both sides. |
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Post by aksaiblue on Jul 5, 2018 14:10:33 GMT 1
Ha ha! Went to take a photo of the Colombian flag yesterday morning early, but it must have been taken down about 10.00pm Tuesday evening. I'll go and check, but it must depend on how quick Amazon can deliver! It's a good omen - I hope he doesn't understand that he is helping our cause🙂⚽️ |
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Post by mids on Jul 5, 2018 14:17:38 GMT 1
Historically this, Historically that....
Until Tuesday night 'historically' England didn't win World Cup penalty shoot outs, and we didn't win many knock out games.
England v Sweden is the World Cup equivalent of Man Utd v West Brom....better quality individuals v grafters with no stars.... in the majority of cases you'd expect Man Utd to win...and so will England.
The dream isn't over yet. We still believe. It's coming home. Perhaps.
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Post by drumriggend on Jul 5, 2018 14:21:51 GMT 1
Historically this, Historically that.... Until Tuesday night 'historically' England didn't win World Cup penalty shoot outs, and we didn't win many knock out games. England v Sweden is the World Cup equivalent of Man Utd v West Brom....better quality individuals v grafters with no stars.... in the majority of cases you'd expect Man Utd to win...and so will England. The dream isn't over yet. We still believe. It's coming home. Perhaps. Or town v man Utd 😉 |
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Post by morrisraspass on Jul 5, 2018 14:25:30 GMT 1
Football has been so good to us this past two seasons. Can't believe it'll happen for England as well. But fingers crossed ...
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Post by explorer on Jul 5, 2018 14:36:08 GMT 1
Last 8 meetings - England won 2, Sweden won 2 and 4 drawn. So it seems we are Sweden’s bogey team too. I really don’t know how anybody can think that comparing past head to head games should give any indication of how this game will end. You don’t need to look at previous Brazil vs Panama games to work out the likely outcome of such an encounter. Last time we met was 6 years ago and our team had such fine footballers as Steven Caulker, Leon Osman, Ryan Shawcross, Carl Jenkinson and Tom Huddleston in its ranks. The manager has changed, the squad has changed, the way we play has changed. No doubt the same can be said about Sweden. What you can generally say though, is that the Northern European teams have similar styles, resulting in the outcome of most of these games being hard to predict, but a pretty safe bet that they will be close run things. I predict all square after 90 minutes and then...? Based on common sense and how both teams are playing in this tournament, not on historical data. 🙂👍 Yeah like I said after my initial post I didn’t realise we had drawn so many. I don’t think anyone had said that previous games have an indication how this one will finish? Teams do play other teams that they never seem to beat, that’s just life and has been that way for years, possibly just random but it definitely does happen, any fan of any club can name a team they hate playing as they never get owt. It’s mainly the papers and pundits Joey. Ian Ladyman in the Daily Mail for example - headline of his piece - “Why Swedes are our bogey team” then follows it up with a table showing that we have a worse record against Holland and Italy! |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Jul 5, 2018 16:25:57 GMT 1
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Post by sabailand on Jul 5, 2018 16:55:04 GMT 1
Historically this, Historically that.... Until Tuesday night 'historically' England didn't win World Cup penalty shoot outs, and we didn't win many knock out games. England v Sweden is the World Cup equivalent of Man Utd v West Brom....better quality individuals v grafters with no stars.... in the majority of cases you'd expect Man Utd to win...and so will England. The dream isn't over yet. We still believe. It's coming home. Perhaps. Agree, new young team with no links with the previous regime, we laid one ghost to rest with the penalty shootout win, similarly with this sweden bogey team nonesense, its all what happens on the day, not black magic and voodoo! |
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Jul 5, 2018 17:10:16 GMT 1
It's a good omen - I hope he doesn't understand that he is helping our cause🙂⚽️ If ever a house deserved egging then that's it. The owner is no doubt Scottish or Welsh |
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jul 5, 2018 17:41:39 GMT 1
It's a good omen - I hope he doesn't understand that he is helping our cause🙂⚽️ If ever a house deserved egging then that's it. The owner is no doubt Scottish or Welsh Or Swedish even. Is that round here? Judging by the stone work I'd say not. |
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Post by detox on Jul 5, 2018 18:40:04 GMT 1
last 10 games v Sweden...won 2 drawn 5 lost 3...so looks like extra time could be on the cards, so need to pace your drinking to allow for another 30+ minutes of nervous tension maybe ? Has absolutely no bearing on the game on Saturday. Zlatan's retirement a lot more significance. Sweden have knocked out Holland in the groups, Italy in the play offs, Germany in a very tough group and a decent Swiss side. Think this is one for Sterling to come good in, running through the legs (or over) of those rawboned Swedish defenders. Think they will sit back, not do much and hope for penalties! I was merely responding to a comment that Sweden are our bogey team, when the stats don't actually support that comment. |
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Post by philincalifornia on Jul 5, 2018 18:59:56 GMT 1
If ever a house deserved egging then that's it. The owner is no doubt Scottish or Welsh Or Swedish even. Is that round here? Judging by the stone work I'd say not. Just down the road from Inverness according to Kenny. Tbf, it might be closer to Sweden than London, and Scotland is having yet another quiet World Cup. |
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Post by Doc Halladay 32 on Jul 5, 2018 19:03:31 GMT 1
Historically this, Historically that.... Until Tuesday night 'historically' England didn't win World Cup penalty shoot outs, and we didn't win many knock out games. England v Sweden is the World Cup equivalent of Man Utd v West Brom....better quality individuals v grafters with no stars.... in the majority of cases you'd expect Man Utd to win...and so will England. The dream isn't over yet. We still believe. It's coming home. Perhaps. Didn't West Brom win at Old Trafford in their last meeting? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 19:16:45 GMT 1
Very even match up. Can see another very tight game with extra time and possibly even pens again. Sweden Greta defensively and unless we play a lot better than against Colombia I can’t see us opening them up.
One advantage is that the swedes will generally try and play within the rules.
I don’t understand why we’ve taken no one who has the footballing brain to open defensive teams up. We need to hope what chances we create fall to Kane.
Need to be 100% alert at set pieces as that’ll be their main threat. Looked to me that we were distracted by the Colombian keeper coming up for the corner the other night and left Maguire one on one with their CB. Cracking header all the same.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2018 19:37:56 GMT 1
Very even match up. Can see another very tight game with extra time and possibly even pens again. Sweden Greta defensively and unless we play a lot better than against Colombia I can’t see us opening them up. One advantage is that the swedes will generally try and play within the rules. I don’t understand why we’ve taken no one who has the footballing brain to open defensive teams up. We need to hope what chances we create fall to Kane. Need to be 100% alert at set pieces as that’ll be their main threat. Looked to me that we were distracted by the Colombian keeper coming up for the corner the other night and left Maguire one on one with their CB. Cracking header all the same. Great as a lone defender was Garbo.... |
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Post by Captainslapper on Jul 5, 2018 19:56:35 GMT 1
Or Swedish even. Is that round here? Judging by the stone work I'd say not. Just down the road from Inverness according to Kenny. Tbf, it might be closer to Sweden than London, and Scotland is having yet another quiet World Cup. To be fair, its two whole decades since they lost a game at a major finals! There aren't many European nations who can claim that.  |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Jul 5, 2018 20:00:29 GMT 1
Has absolutely no bearing on the game on Saturday. Zlatan's retirement a lot more significance. Sweden have knocked out Holland in the groups, Italy in the play offs, Germany in a very tough group and a decent Swiss side. Think this is one for Sterling to come good in, running through the legs (or over) of those rawboned Swedish defenders. Think they will sit back, not do much and hope for penalties! I was merely responding to a comment that Sweden are our bogey team, when the stats don't actually support that comment. Fair enough - don't really believe in bogey teams anyway. Thankfully Southgate seems to have got that sort of bunkum out of their heads. |
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