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Post by faffa on Aug 27, 2018 5:17:52 GMT 1
Mbenza came on with 22 mins to go. He was blowing after 5 mins and on his back after 22. Hard to judge his talent given the circumstances however his fitness was shocking. You try running at full tilt for 5 minutes from a resting heart rate and see if you are breathing heavy. He still had another 15 to play as well! Unbelievable expectations the lads no chance with this type of comment |
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Post by jafa on Aug 27, 2018 7:17:15 GMT 1
Seems we're shopping at PoundSaver.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 7:50:56 GMT 1
Seems we're shopping at PoundSaver. Some unbelievable bargains to be had at PoundSaver, take it you've never been in?  |
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Post by jafa on Aug 27, 2018 8:03:30 GMT 1
I have and you get what you pay for.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 8:13:23 GMT 1
I have and you get what you pay for. More for your money than regular stores for identical goods in my view. Some cheap tat admittedly, however genuine bargains to be had on everyday items. |
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Post by boooothy on Aug 27, 2018 8:44:25 GMT 1
It’s early days but anyone with eyes can see these 2 on this day looked lightweight and weak.
Worrying because we desperately need them now not in 3 months time.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 8:49:43 GMT 1
It’s early days but anyone with eyes can see these 2 on this day looked lightweight and weak. Worrying because we desperately need them now not in 3 months time. Who mentioned 3 months? Two or three games might just give 'em a chance to find their feet. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Aug 27, 2018 8:55:52 GMT 1
It’s early days but anyone with eyes can see these 2 on this day looked lightweight and weak. Worrying because we desperately need them now not in 3 months time. Yep, and based on what we saw, absolutely no way would it have been sensible to start either against at least City. Maybe against Chelsea where we had more attacking intent, but arguably the starting eleven played well in the first half. Diakhaby looks very raw, slight and incredibly one footed. Mbenza, hard to say, but he won't help his case when he stops running after a misjudged a pass. Manage the crowd 😉 On face value we look to have got lots of players who are marginally better or worse than what we have, but hopefully it's early days and I'm proved badly wrong. |
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Post by E4b on Aug 27, 2018 9:39:10 GMT 1
It didn’t take Traore long to impress at Wolves on Saturday against the Man City defence. He got the ball and took on and beat their defenders with ease.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2018 9:39:34 GMT 1
From the Leipzig report - "Two of Town’s summer recruits would then link up for the second of the afternoon. Egyptian winger Ramadan Sobhi played a perfectly weighted defence splitting through-ball to send Adama Diakhaby one-on-one, as the French winger made no mistake slotting home for Town’s second in Schwaz"
I know this was a friendly and not against premier league opposition. Also not against a side setup to stop us as a priority but it was a cracking goal. Diakhaby, as I remember, just took this in his stride and stroked it home with his left foot. It was a fabulous pass as well.
Just as I would not judge either player on that friendly match neither would I judge Diakhaby on Saturday's game. As has been said we need to be slicker getting the ball to player's feet. Everyone seems to take a touch, or more, before laying a pass off, the exception possibly being Pritchard. To make the most of players with pace we need to get the ball to them in positions that give them half a yards start on the opposition. Maybe the "being patient" approach needs to be just part of our game rather than the only plan.
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Post by Tanzanian Terrier on Aug 27, 2018 9:47:33 GMT 1
Van la parra is our best winger how can we get rid Do you think if he was going, he would have been playing, even on loan? |
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Post by yellowbelly on Aug 27, 2018 11:40:04 GMT 1
Van la parra is our best winger how can we get rid Do you think if he was going, he would have been playing, even on loan? Reported somewhere that Middlesbrough found it more difficult than imagined to do a deal for VLP. Interest switched to a Portugeezer. |
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Post by Porrohman on Aug 27, 2018 17:54:34 GMT 1
Mbenza came on with 22 mins to go. He was blowing after 5 mins and on his back after 22. Hard to judge his talent given the circumstances however his fitness was shocking. You try running at full tilt for 5 minutes from a resting heart rate and see if you are breathing heavy. He still had another 15 to play as well! Unbelievable expectations the lads no chance with this type of comment When did he run at full tilt for 5 minutes ? |
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Post by andyeastleake on Aug 27, 2018 21:24:09 GMT 1
It didn’t take Traore long to impress at Wolves on Saturday against the Man City defence. He got the ball and took on and beat their defenders with ease. Is that the same Adama Traore who has already spent 3 seasons in English football (two at PL level)? TBF I don't think your comparison is in the vicinity of being appropriate. |
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Post by andyeastleake on Aug 27, 2018 21:26:10 GMT 1
Mbenza, hard to say, but he won't help his case when he stops running after a misjudged a pass. Manage the crowd 😉 Totally agree with this, a worrying sign from someone on their debut. Lack of common sense TBH. |
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Post by E4b on Aug 27, 2018 21:58:54 GMT 1
It didn’t take Traore long to impress at Wolves on Saturday against the Man City defence. He got the ball and took on and beat their defenders with ease. Is that the same Adama Traore who has already spent 3 seasons in English football (two at PL level)? TBF I don't think your comparison is in the vicinity of being appropriate. Just another big money signing that plays out wide, that’s the only comparison we need isn’t it? |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Aug 28, 2018 11:14:01 GMT 1
The problem is town are playing in the PREMIER LEAGUE with to many " CHAMPIONSHIP QUALITY " players
Even worse is the fact that most of our so called best players have yet to find form , and that obviously affects the whole team performance
Wagner can only field what he has at his disposal , and it was clear to see on Saturday that he was far from happy at what he was seeing .
We don't seem to have a player who can accurately shoot especially from distance or a winger who can cross a ball ,and surely this is something the team practise week in week out on the training field
This season will be one almighty scrap to the finish ,and we must remember that we are only in this league to survive with teams at the bottom half of the table
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 28, 2018 11:39:02 GMT 1
The problem is town are playing in the PREMIER LEAGUE with to many " CHAMPIONSHIP QUALITY " players Even worse is the fact that most of our so called best players have yet to find form , and that obviously affects the whole team performance Wagner can only field what he has at his disposal , and it was clear to see on Saturday that he was far from happy at what he was seeing . We don't seem to have a player who can accurately shoot especially from distance or a winger who can cross a ball ,and surely this is something the team practise week in week out on the training field This season will be one almighty scrap to the finish ,and we must remember that we are only in this league to survive with teams at the bottom half of the table Who are our so called best players? |
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Aug 28, 2018 12:12:30 GMT 1
The problem is town are playing in the PREMIER LEAGUE with to many " CHAMPIONSHIP QUALITY " players Even worse is the fact that most of our so called best players have yet to find form , and that obviously affects the whole team performance Wagner can only field what he has at his disposal , and it was clear to see on Saturday that he was far from happy at what he was seeing . We don't seem to have a player who can accurately shoot especially from distance or a winger who can cross a ball ,and surely this is something the team practise week in week out on the training field This season will be one almighty scrap to the finish ,and we must remember that we are only in this league to survive with teams at the bottom half of the table Wolves for example have a 5 to 10 goal head start on us as they have Neves and Mountinho who guarantee them goals from outside the box. Neves already has one belter and is unlucky not to have had a couple others and Moutinho has already hit the woodwork twice I don't think there is one player at Town who I would put money on scoring more than once or twice from outside the box this seaosn |
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Post by royrace on Aug 28, 2018 12:23:43 GMT 1
The problem is town are playing in the PREMIER LEAGUE with to many " CHAMPIONSHIP QUALITY " playersEven worse is the fact that most of our so called best players have yet to find form , and that obviously affects the whole team performance Wagner can only field what he has at his disposal , and it was clear to see on Saturday that he was far from happy at what he was seeing . We don't seem to have a player who can accurately shoot especially from distance or a winger who can cross a ball ,and surely this is something the team practise week in week out on the training field This season will be one almighty scrap to the finish ,and we must remember that we are only in this league to survive with teams at the bottom half of the table I don't think Dean Hoyle would agree with that based on the amount shelled out on transfer fees over the last 2 seasons and the wage bill. The season depends on the quality of the acquisitions made this summer, if they turn out to be poor signings who don't perform we'll be a worse team than last season and relegated. If they are significantly better than what we had last season we should be OK. I think we're all a bit concerned with the team selections and the performances of the new lads, both of which seem to suggest we've gone backwards not forwards but hopefully it's just a bedding in process, we all know Wagner likes to do his business early which didn't happen. Its also concerning that neither of the two wingers seem to be rated by their previous clubs supporters, having lost Ince who was a solid performer if not spectacular, if these two turn out to be duds we'll be significantly weaker despite spending ~£20M. It's also crossed my mind Wagner isn't happy with our transfer business, that may explain some of the weird team selections, ie Sibiri, Stankovic, Billing playing despite the fact they didn't last season for various different reasons. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Aug 28, 2018 12:28:01 GMT 1
Wolves for example have a 5 to 10 goal head start on us as they have Neves and Mountinho who guarantee them goals from outside the box. Neves already has one belter and is unlucky not to have had a couple others and Moutinho has already hit the woodwork twice I don't think there is one player at Town who I would put money on scoring more than once or twice from outside the box this seaosn Not disputing the quality of Wolves but the example of the 5 to 10 goals start has yielded the grand total of 1 goal. Being unlucky doesn't count. If that was the case then Mounie should have had 2, as he has been very unlucky with 2 great headers. so based on your comparison we have a much better ariel threat, if we ever exploited it. |
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Post by goodshot (FGS) on Aug 28, 2018 12:49:42 GMT 1
Just to put this fretting about Mbenza and Diakhaby in perspective, Bournemouth are considering playing their record £25 million summer signing Lerma in the EFL cup tie against the MK Dons tonight. He has been doing the right things in training.
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 1, 2018 21:06:06 GMT 1
I will put my left bollock on the line here. Diakhaby and Mbenza will both be class for us. Well mate, I think you may be right about Diakhaby, thought he was great today, just Mbenza now and you can keep your left bollock. |
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Post by Hammy (still in Golcar) on Sept 1, 2018 21:19:35 GMT 1
I will put my left bollock on the line here. Diakhaby and Mbenza will both be class for us. Well mate, I think you may be right about Diakhaby, thought he was great today, just Mbenza now and you can keep your left bollock. Nice one, couldn’t make it today but heard good things. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 1, 2018 21:40:13 GMT 1
Well mate, I think you may be right about Diakhaby, thought he was great today, just Mbenza now and you can keep your left bollock. Nice one, couldn’t make it today but heard good things. He was really good, looks decent signing |
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Post by Metch on Sept 1, 2018 21:47:51 GMT 1
Nice one, couldn’t make it today but heard good things. He was really good, looks decent signing Really? I thought he was our weakest link today, at fault for their goal and failed to link up well with Hadj when there seemed to be alot more space on our right to exploit. Looked short of confidence but i hope potential to come good. |
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Post by WirralTerrier on Sept 1, 2018 21:52:38 GMT 1
Nice one, couldn’t make it today but heard good things. He was really good, looks decent signing Not sure you can say he was really good today. He did ok and better than he has done previously but he still needs to improve a lot. His pace and ability to run with the ball was evident today and that was good. But his passing and decision making was really poor at times today. Maybe it's lack of confidence or just needs more time but its eveident there definitely looks a very good footballer in there. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 1, 2018 21:57:18 GMT 1
He was really good, looks decent signing Really? I thought he was our weakest link today, at fault for their goal and failed to link up well with Hadj when there seemed to be alot more space on our right to exploit. Looked short of confidence but i hope potential to come good. He was very good today. Couple of times he eased away from Everton players, he definitely has the quality, just tired as the game went on. |
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Post by joeyjoneslocker on Sept 1, 2018 21:58:19 GMT 1
He was really good, looks decent signing Not sure you can say he was really good today. He did ok and better than he has done previously but he still needs to improve a lot. His pace and ability to run with the ball was evident today and that was good. But his passing and decision making was really poor at times today. Maybe it's lack of confidence or just needs more time but its eveident there definitely looks a very good footballer in there. I quoted sloughterrier, same response applies really, I thought he was very good. |
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Post by philincalifornia on Sept 1, 2018 22:17:24 GMT 1
He was really good, looks decent signing Really? I thought he was our weakest link today, at fault for their goal and failed to link up well with Hadj when there seemed to be alot more space on our right to exploit. Looked short of confidence but i hope potential to come good. My thoughts exactly, especially on the confidence thing right after the start. Looked like he didn't want anything doing with the ball. He'll come good though, I'm sure. What about Sobhi though too - surely he's going to fight for a place? |
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