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Post by htfc63 on Nov 5, 2020 14:34:03 GMT 1
All three came in as massively overpriced buys and are no doubt on equally extremely high salaries for both the club and as against others in the league. Whilst we have seen rare flashes of skill from Pritchard and Mbenza neither have justified their fee,s and also in the case of Pritchard his protracted injuries also go against him being value for money. Sadly I don’t think we will see a rush of clubs willing to buy these players in January and the players themselves will be in no rush to relinquish their bumper pay days. Carlos is of course right to try to get as much as he can out of these players however in the case of Diakharby there seems to be little progress and his contribution seems nothing more than making up the numbers. Let’s hope we can see the season out with the current squad and a few signings in January and then have a major cull in the summer and bring in players who have both the stamina and skill in order to play to the system Carlos is developing at our club. UTT
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Post by wigster on Nov 5, 2020 16:54:16 GMT 1
Unfair to even associate Mbenza with Diakhaby now for me. Having seen what we have of all three and IF it meant we'd have replacements this time I'd happily see Diakhaby and Pritchard leave. Mbenza has knuckled down incredibly, that vibe was evident from the recent press conference. Sounds like CC really rates him too. Its been great to see him prove us all wrong. He's never tracked back, even under Wagner. He'd now look comfortable at RWB. Tireless performances lately, some good crosses coming in from him and looks like he's reaped the benefits and confidence with his goal and assist. Different player. Sorry ross83 but if you really believe that Mbenza has “proved us all wrong” then I would have to respectfully disagree. I think the general view was that he was massively overpriced, on incredible wages,and but for one goal and one cross last season had produced next to nothing The last few games he has been better and his assist last week was excellent. He has improved but was starting from such an incredibly low starting point that, for me, it would have been difficult not to have got better Bearing in mind his price, his apparent weekly wage, and his for-whatever- reason almost total lack of application and end product , I would get rid as soon as possible. Unfortunately, as with Pritchard and Diakhaby, no other club will touch them so we are stuck with them. They have all had literally years to “knuckle down “ for Town but not one of the three seems to have had the ability or felt the need to do so I would have to agree that they have all been, relatively speaking, three of Huddersfield Town’s most expensive mistakes. |
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Post by Headless Chicken on Nov 5, 2020 18:28:46 GMT 1
This is all rapidly heading towards Phil Billing territory where someone has decided something that is patently incorrect and stubbornly sticks with it despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary! Happens all the time, for some inexplicable reason we get stuck hard black or white when discussing football, when it rarely is. Reference historic discussion where Sean Scannell and Donal McDermott were instantly declared as the best thing since sliced bread, before they'd even been seen in a Town shirt...within 3 games you could see both were decidedly average (worse than that with Donal!) and would never really shine, but lines had been drawn and posters simply wouldn't change their view despite the obvious evidence available to anyone who actually watched them play! Donal is probably the most wrong I have ever called a player and why I rarely take too much away from a one off game. He looked like a world beater against us, but in hindsight was up against a highly immobile team. |
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Post by royrace on Nov 5, 2020 18:39:14 GMT 1
Unfair to even associate Mbenza with Diakhaby now for me. Having seen what we have of all three and IF it meant we'd have replacements this time I'd happily see Diakhaby and Pritchard leave. Mbenza has knuckled down incredibly, that vibe was evident from the recent press conference. Sounds like CC really rates him too. Its been great to see him prove us all wrong. He's never tracked back, even under Wagner. He'd now look comfortable at RWB. Tireless performances lately, some good crosses coming in from him and looks like he's reaped the benefits and confidence with his goal and assist. Different player. Sorry ross83 but if you really believe that Mbenza has “proved us all wrong” then I would have to respectfully disagree. I think the general view was that he was massively overpriced, on incredible wages,and but for one goal and one cross last season had produced next to nothing The last few games he has been better and his assist last week was excellent. He has improved but was starting from such an incredibly low starting point that, for me, it would have been difficult not to have got better Bearing in mind his price, his apparent weekly wage, and his for-whatever- reason almost total lack of application and end product , I would get rid as soon as possible. Unfortunately, as with Pritchard and Diakhaby, no other club will touch them so we are stuck with them. They have all had literally years to “knuckle down “ for Town but not one of the three seems to have had the ability or felt the need to do so I would have to agree that they have all been, relatively speaking, three of Huddersfield Town’s most expensive mistakes. Spot on. Also fair to say the recent improvement from IM comes in the last year of his contract. Relevant? Who knows. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2020 19:11:24 GMT 1
Sorry ross83 but if you really believe that Mbenza has “proved us all wrong” then I would have to respectfully disagree. I think the general view was that he was massively overpriced, on incredible wages,and but for one goal and one cross last season had produced next to nothing The last few games he has been better and his assist last week was excellent. He has improved but was starting from such an incredibly low starting point that, for me, it would have been difficult not to have got better Bearing in mind his price, his apparent weekly wage, and his for-whatever- reason almost total lack of application and end product , I would get rid as soon as possible. Unfortunately, as with Pritchard and Diakhaby, no other club will touch them so we are stuck with them. They have all had literally years to “knuckle down “ for Town but not one of the three seems to have had the ability or felt the need to do so I would have to agree that they have all been, relatively speaking, three of Huddersfield Town’s most expensive mistakes. Spot on. Also fair to say the recent improvement from IM comes in the last year of his contract. Relevant? Who knows. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards Can we please get over how much players were bought for and how much they earn and concentrate on what they bring to the team. That is really the only thing that matters now, all the rest is history. Mbenza has slotted into the CC setup and is playing decent football. He has skill and pace and has the confidence to shoot, which we have been so sorely lacking. His goal from the free kick was excellent. Please let the past go and just report on what we see week to week. |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 5, 2020 20:39:44 GMT 1
Sorry ross83 but if you really believe that Mbenza has “proved us all wrong” then I would have to respectfully disagree. I think the general view was that he was massively overpriced, on incredible wages,and but for one goal and one cross last season had produced next to nothing The last few games he has been better and his assist last week was excellent. He has improved but was starting from such an incredibly low starting point that, for me, it would have been difficult not to have got better Bearing in mind his price, his apparent weekly wage, and his for-whatever- reason almost total lack of application and end product , I would get rid as soon as possible. Unfortunately, as with Pritchard and Diakhaby, no other club will touch them so we are stuck with them. They have all had literally years to “knuckle down “ for Town but not one of the three seems to have had the ability or felt the need to do so I would have to agree that they have all been, relatively speaking, three of Huddersfield Town’s most expensive mistakes. Spot on. Also fair to say the recent improvement from IM comes in the last year of his contract. Relevant? Who knows. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards When's Pritchard in his last year, he might try to resemble a footballer for a bit then |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 5, 2020 21:40:42 GMT 1
Spot on. Also fair to say the recent improvement from IM comes in the last year of his contract. Relevant? Who knows. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards When's Pritchard in his last year, he might try to resemble a footballer for a bit then He *is* in the last year of his contract. Anything to add Roy?! |
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 5, 2020 22:13:14 GMT 1
When's Pritchard in his last year, he might try to resemble a footballer for a bit then He *is* in the last year of his contract. Anything to add Roy?! Tbf at least Pritch has been consistent in his time here 😁 |
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Post by omar1988 on Nov 5, 2020 22:55:15 GMT 1
This is all rapidly heading towards Phil Billing territory where someone has decided something that is patently incorrect and stubbornly sticks with it despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary! Happens all the time, for some inexplicable reason we get stuck hard black or white when discussing football, when it rarely is. Reference historic discussion where Sean Scannell and Donal McDermott were instantly declared as the best thing since sliced bread, before they'd even been seen in a Town shirt...within 3 games you could see both were decidedly average (worse than that with Donal!) and would never really shine, but lines had been drawn and posters simply wouldn't change their view despite the obvious evidence available to anyone who actually watched them play! Donal is probably the most wrong I have ever called a player and why I rarely take too much away from a one off game. He looked like a world beater against us, but in hindsight was up against a highly immobile team. I'd forgotten all about Donal and also thought we'd signed a gem. Should have already learnt not to get over excited about new signings after thinking Town had got a decent striker when Junior Mendes signed. Watched him tear Town apart during promotion season from League Two. Such high hopes that really didn't last long. If honest, I thought Pritchard was a good signing. Massive disappointment. Don't know what's going on with him but can't see him ever finding the form he showed at Brentford or Norwich. Shame. |
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Post by royrace on Nov 6, 2020 9:29:19 GMT 1
When's Pritchard in his last year, he might try to resemble a footballer for a bit then He *is* in the last year of his contract. Anything to add Roy?! He's another one who has shown some improvement (when he's not bloody injured), which you'd have noticed if you weren't watching the games with your eyes closed  I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and think its down to Carlos but I think we all remember the Simon Baldry phenomenon. Could be a factor! |
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Post by Town1971 on Nov 6, 2020 10:09:02 GMT 1
He *is* in the last year of his contract. Anything to add Roy?! He's another one who has shown some improvement (when he's not bloody injured), which you'd have noticed if you weren't watching the games with your eyes closed I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and think its down to Carlos but I think we all remember the Simon Baldry phenomenon. Could be a factor! He has been and continues to be a major disappointment. |
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Post by royrace on Nov 6, 2020 12:36:01 GMT 1
He's another one who has shown some improvement (when he's not bloody injured), which you'd have noticed if you weren't watching the games with your eyes closed I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and think its down to Carlos but I think we all remember the Simon Baldry phenomenon. Could be a factor! He has been and continues to be a major disappointment. Yes I dont think anyone would dispute that fact. There were signs of improvement though before his injury although a worry he couldn't even get off the bench for three games. I suspect that was the management team deciding that he wasn't fit enough in their opinion. They are set targets and if they don't meet them they don't play. When he did play latterly I thought he looked decent. Now injured. Again. |
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Post by Amigo on Nov 6, 2020 14:30:14 GMT 1
He has been and continues to be a major disappointment. Yes I dont think anyone would dispute that fact. There were signs of improvement though before his injury although a worry he couldn't even get off the bench for three games. I suspect that was the management team deciding that he wasn't fit enough in their opinion. They are set targets and if they don't meet them they don't play. When he did play latterly I thought he looked decent. Now injured. Again. In which game did he look decent? |
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Post by royrace on Nov 6, 2020 14:54:20 GMT 1
Yes I dont think anyone would dispute that fact. There were signs of improvement though before his injury although a worry he couldn't even get off the bench for three games. I suspect that was the management team deciding that he wasn't fit enough in their opinion. They are set targets and if they don't meet them they don't play. When he did play latterly I thought he looked decent. Now injured. Again. In which game did he look decent? He's looked decent in a few and im sure it's probably reflected in match reports and player ratings but I don't need to justify my opinion. I've already said im bored of the argument. I've made my point, if you want to believe that mbenza has finally come good after all this time and proved you right and that Pritchard is actually the shittest of the shit then that's up to you. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards |
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Post by Amigo on Nov 6, 2020 19:01:22 GMT 1
In which game did he look decent? He's looked decent in a few and im sure it's probably reflected in match reports and player ratings but I don't need to justify my opinion. I've already said im bored of the argument. I've made my point, if you want to believe that mbenza has finally come good after all this time and proved you right and that Pritchard is actually the shittest of the shit then that's up to you. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards No idea which games you could be on about to be honest, you don't seem to know either so it's a good job you don't feel the need to justify your opinion because there isn't actually anything to back you up. You haven't made any point, just based an opinion with nothing behind it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 6, 2020 19:14:22 GMT 1
In which game did he look decent? He's looked decent in a few and im sure it's probably reflected in match reports and player ratings but I don't need to justify my opinion. I've already said im bored of the argument. I've made my point, if you want to believe that mbenza has finally come good after all this time and proved you right and that Pritchard is actually the shittest of the shit then that's up to you. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards Why do so many posters end up sounding like Otium? Is it some sort of internet virus? |
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Post by drumriggend on Nov 6, 2020 19:37:25 GMT 1
He's looked decent in a few and im sure it's probably reflected in match reports and player ratings but I don't need to justify my opinion. I've already said im bored of the argument. I've made my point, if you want to believe that mbenza has finally come good after all this time and proved you right and that Pritchard is actually the shittest of the shit then that's up to you. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards Why do so many posters end up sounding like Otium? Is it some sort of internet virus? It’s a Donald trump style of argument.. Keep repeating the same owld shite over and over.. And it eventually becomes a fact.. 👌 |
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Post by drumriggend on Nov 6, 2020 19:53:04 GMT 1
He's looked decent in a few and im sure it's probably reflected in match reports and player ratings but I don't need to justify my opinion. I've already said im bored of the argument. I've made my point, if you want to believe that mbenza has finally come good after all this time and proved you right and that Pritchard is actually the shittest of the shit then that's up to you. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards Why do so many posters end up sounding like Otium? Is it some sort of internet virus? It’s a Donald trump style of argument.. Keep repeating the same owld shite over and over.. And it eventually becomes a fact.. 👌 |
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Post by drumriggend on Nov 6, 2020 19:53:44 GMT 1
Why do so many posters end up sounding like Otium? Is it some sort of internet virus? It’s a Donald trump style of argument.. Keep repeating the same owld shite over and over.. And it eventually becomes a fact.. 👌 Echo.. 😜 |
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Post by royrace on Nov 6, 2020 20:25:57 GMT 1
He's looked decent in a few and im sure it's probably reflected in match reports and player ratings but I don't need to justify my opinion. I've already said im bored of the argument. I've made my point, if you want to believe that mbenza has finally come good after all this time and proved you right and that Pritchard is actually the shittest of the shit then that's up to you. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards No idea which games you could be on about to be honest, you don't seem to know either so it's a good job you don't feel the need to justify your opinion because there isn't actually anything to back you up. You haven't made any point, just based an opinion with nothing behind it. Fuck sake are you still here. You think mbenza is a better player than Pritchard, has contributed more in his time at town and has been a better investment. I disagree. Let's leave it at that. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards |
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Post by leedsroadrob on Nov 6, 2020 20:28:26 GMT 1
He's looked decent in a few and im sure it's probably reflected in match reports and player ratings but I don't need to justify my opinion. I've already said im bored of the argument. I've made my point, if you want to believe that mbenza has finally come good after all this time and proved you right and that Pritchard is actually the shittest of the shit then that's up to you. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards Why do so many posters end up sounding like Otium? Is it some sort of internet virus? Well, it might be a virus, but it's no worse than flu. |
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Post by sapphireblue on Nov 6, 2020 20:39:40 GMT 1
No idea which games you could be on about to be honest, you don't seem to know either so it's a good job you don't feel the need to justify your opinion because there isn't actually anything to back you up. You haven't made any point, just based an opinion with nothing behind it. Fuck sake are you still here. You think mbenza is a better player than Pritchard, has contributed more in his time at town and has been a better investment. I disagree. Let's leave it at that. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards On that I agree with slyman. So, Fuck sake are YOU still here. Let's leave it at that. |
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Post by royrace on Nov 6, 2020 20:55:21 GMT 1
Fuck sake are you still here. You think mbenza is a better player than Pritchard, has contributed more in his time at town and has been a better investment. I disagree. Let's leave it at that. Sent from my SM-A515F using proboards On that I agree with slyman. So, Fuck sake are YOU still here. Let's leave it at that. Thanks for your input  |
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Post by sapphireblue on Nov 6, 2020 21:04:56 GMT 1
On that I agree with slyman. So, Fuck sake are YOU still here. Let's leave it at that. Thanks for your input Can't leave it can you. 😂 |
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Post by boooothy on Nov 6, 2020 21:09:52 GMT 1
I’m no fan of Pritchard but he’s definitely contributed more than Mbenza in their time at Town.
He was playing very well at Millwall before going off, suspect he still had more touches than Mbenza despite playing half the game.
I’m delighted Mbenza is doing better, he’s fast, got a cross and a shot on him. In fact i’m totally puzzled why he’s been so crap, i don’t think he’s very clever, i’ve never known a player with so much pace who doesn’t like to sprint.
At least Diakhaby wants to take players on, he just doesn’t have the composure to do it.
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Post by Porrohman on Nov 6, 2020 21:13:27 GMT 1
I’m no fan of Pritchard but he’s definitely contributed more than Mbenza in their time at Town. He was playing very well at Millwall before going off, suspect he still had more touches than Mbenza despite playing half the game. I’m delighted Mbenza is doing better, he’s fast, got a cross and a shot on him. In fact i’m totally puzzled why he’s been so crap, i don’t think he’s very clever, i’ve never known a player with so much pace who doesn’t like to sprint. At least Diakhaby wants to take players on, he just doesn’t have the composure to do it. Well it's certainly not goals and assists that the dwarf has contributed. Slowing things down, turning back and falling over at the slightest touch, maybe, but is that actually contributing 🤔😁 |
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Post by boooothy on Nov 6, 2020 21:36:35 GMT 1
I’m no fan of Pritchard but he’s definitely contributed more than Mbenza in their time at Town. He was playing very well at Millwall before going off, suspect he still had more touches than Mbenza despite playing half the game. I’m delighted Mbenza is doing better, he’s fast, got a cross and a shot on him. In fact i’m totally puzzled why he’s been so crap, i don’t think he’s very clever, i’ve never known a player with so much pace who doesn’t like to sprint. At least Diakhaby wants to take players on, he just doesn’t have the composure to do it. Well it's certainly not goals and assists that the dwarf has contributed. Slowing things down, turning back and falling over at the slightest touch, maybe, but is that actually contributing 🤔😁 Like i say i’m no fan. I thought he was a fantastic signing at the time. Very disappointing, |
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Post by royrace on Nov 6, 2020 21:39:05 GMT 1
Thanks for your input Can't leave it can you. 😂 Leave what? You made an oddball, unfunny comment to this thread so I acknowledged it? |
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Post by sapphireblue on Nov 6, 2020 22:21:24 GMT 1
Can't leave it can you. 😂 Leave what? You made an oddball, unfunny comment to this thread so I acknowledged it? This is not your exclusive forum to tell posters to "leave it at that" because they don't agree with your nonsense. Oddball? Unfunny? 😂 |
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Post by Tinpot on Nov 7, 2020 0:17:45 GMT 1
He's another one who has shown some improvement (when he's not bloody injured), which you'd have noticed if you weren't watching the games with your eyes closed I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and think its down to Carlos but I think we all remember the Simon Baldry phenomenon. Could be a factor! He has been and continues to be a major disappointment. Bit harsh. Baldry hasn't had a bad game for us since that year Wadsworth was in charge. |
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I'd like to give them the benefit of the doubt and think its down to Carlos but I think we all remember the Simon Baldry phenomenon. Could be a factor!
