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Post by lochnessterrier on Jan 8, 2019 21:41:44 GMT 1
We should have signed Wood from Leeds. It wouldn't have kept us in the PL but the fallout from Leeds fans would have been priceless 🤗
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Post by shawsie on Jan 8, 2019 23:56:42 GMT 1
We should have signed Wood from Leeds. It wouldn't have kept us in the PL but the fallout from Leeds fans would have been priceless 🤗 Wood was much improved last week and a real handful. I still think mounie could do a job.....but our no 10 isn't good enough nor are any of the wide men we have - yet. Diakhaby and mbenza may come good as they are young and raw....but I'm not convinced. LDP wouldn't score many in the championship the way he has performed this term. |
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Post by conman on Jan 9, 2019 7:01:26 GMT 1
We missed out on that 3rd striking option. An Ashley Barnes or a Billy Sharpe type. I agree we should have pland for this window opening long ago, as we started the season with 2 strikers who can't strike.. And a speller who can't spell.. |
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Post by hthtafs on Jan 9, 2019 9:36:26 GMT 1
We should have signed Wood from Leeds. It wouldn't have kept us in the PL but the fallout from Leeds fans would have been priceless 🤗 Would have been a great singing 😊 Give me a 25/30 goal a season striker in the championship over a 10 goal a season striker in France / Belgium any day of the week .... it was a no brainier. Said it at the time and would have gone double bubble and signed Snodgrass from West Ham ... could have got him for £5m. |
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Post by andyeastleake on Jan 13, 2019 17:56:54 GMT 1
The earliest ever relegation was 29th March (Derby). Another bad record we could likely break. I've just been looking back at Derby's season (used to work in Derby so their nightmare season has interest to me). I think rather than "likely" it's extremely unlikely we will break that record. We have seven games after 29th March (just), Derby had six. That is 21 points. Even if we don't get another point until then, the 17th placed club would need to mathematically relegate us be on 32 points after 31 games. Don't think there is any significant chance of that being the case the way the season is going (nor that we won't get another point). Why do you think it's likely? |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Jan 13, 2019 18:41:52 GMT 1
The earliest ever relegation was 29th March (Derby). Another bad record we could likely break. I've just been looking back at Derby's season (used to work in Derby so their nightmare season has interest to me). I think rather than "likely" it's extremely unlikely we will break that record. We have seven games after 29th March (just), Derby had six. That is 21 points. Even if we don't get another point until then, the 17th placed club would need to mathematically relegate us be on 32 points after 31 games. Don't think there is any significant chance of that being the case the way the season is going (nor that we won't get another point). Why do you think it's likely? I was playing Devils advocate. Probably wont happen...ask me again when we dont have another win in Jan and those around us win up. I could work out the probability if i had the time or inclination. The fact it is even a remote possibility shows us up. |
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Post by Sugy , Paignton Devon Terrier on Jan 13, 2019 19:25:09 GMT 1
Both Hoyle and Wagner must have realised in the close season exactly what would be required to give us at least another season at the highest level especially after we survived by the skin of our teeth
This is called to you and me as learning from your mistakes.
What was important is that we brought in as much quality strength and depth as possible to cover injuries,suspensions and players showing poor form
Sadly we failed badly here with almost every player ,and how costly has this proven.
The club knew well before the recent transfer window opened that we had a goal scoring striker problem ,and you would have thought that a striker would have been ready to sign and go on Jan 1st for obvious reasons.
Dean stated that he would not allow town to sleepwalk into relegation , but now we await his thoughts 13 days into the window as i post with a relegation gap that seems at present to be impossible to close
No doubt our wonderful chairman will have a plan in place ,and await to see what happens next
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Post by mrg on Jan 13, 2019 19:50:02 GMT 1
I'm guessing the club were thinking that they had a minimum of 15 goals from the strikers and at least the same amount from elsewhere, 28 goals.
What hadn't been factored in as you quite rightly say, is the fact that to replace mooy is the best part of £35m and that he has been carrying the midfield quietly and confidently since the day he arrived.
Top that with suspensions other injuries and poor decisions, along with stronger teams that came up and we now need to sign Jermaine Defoe to get us out of the shit. No chance of bmuff doing us any favours there as they seem to want him as a coach and we are scratching around to mix it up, of course, scared of spunking all our money. Drinkwater will be on 120k a week at Chelsea.
The lad from Leicester would be a good signing, but sadly I think unless we sign him and 2 others of that quality we won't get wins at Southampton,Newcastle and Brighton at al that we now need.
It could be worse, we could watch L666s United.
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Post by stanton1969 on Jan 13, 2019 20:48:41 GMT 1
On reflection, I really do believe that DW has tried to get us playing "football" this season. A bit more cultured than last, at least. Therein lies the problem this season. It's not that it hasn't been a laudable aim - it's just been undermined by a few things. 1 - Outrageous refereeing decisions 2 - Hitting the woodwork for fun 3 - Injuries 4 - Undeserved suspensions (see point 1) 5 - Poor recruitment and player sales 6 - Some players taking the piss. LDP for one - completely unprofessional to be in the shape he's in. If he doesn't like his job he can go stack shelves at Tesco's for all I care. For the first ten games (aside from City away) I thought for the most part we looked good. And, (aside form the City game) you could argue we'd performed better than the corresponding fixtures last season. So, to be fair to DW, he had really good reasons to be positive - hence the comment, "I didn't see this coming". Neither did I. Sadly, the recruitment is the key thing. To play the "football" he wanted to play, you really do need technically good players. We don't have enough of them, and it's all fine margins. We were really close until Mooy got injured, though. So, I don't believe that DWs approach has been intentionally dull - circumstances and events have conspired against him somewhat. I'd really like to know what happened with the recruitment. Seems to me that Rebbe coming in and the drop in quality of players can't just be coincidence. DW might have the last say.....but it depends on how much his view has been manipulated. It also depends on the ability of the club to persuade players to come in. That's not solely DW's job. If it is,  is Rebbe even doing here? DW may have just had to accept Hobson's choice on a most of the recruits. Whatever.......the squad isn't strong enough to implement the style that DW wants. If it were, I reckon we'd be seeing some entertaining stuff. This is where I think it has gone partly wrong. It hasn't ALL gone wrong. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2019 20:58:25 GMT 1
Punched way above our weight for the last two seasons, Sadly this year it has caught us up, end of.
We go again next year in a far better place than when DW first arrived, End of
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 30, 2019 21:10:01 GMT 1
The earliest ever relegation was 29th March (Derby). Another bad record we could likely break. You are in the wrong game oti lad. |
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Post by Nickhudds.UTT on Mar 30, 2019 21:34:45 GMT 1
prima donners like Billing and zanka strolling about
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Post by townatheart on Mar 30, 2019 21:38:10 GMT 1
The earliest ever relegation was 29th March (Derby). Another bad record we could likely break. You are in the wrong game oti lad. You are in the wrong game indeed. This typifies usual approach and your use of words --- "could" and "likely". So if we are not relegated by the 29th of March, you fall back and say, but I only said "could" so was not wrong. And if we were relegated before the 29th of March, your likely would be spun by you to mean you had predicted it, so you were right. Very clever indeed. And then just to check, if Derby were relegated on the 29th of March, and Town have been relegated on the 30th of March, were does this mean your prediction falls? Just curious (although I suspect most of us will know the answer well enough  ) |
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Post by WirralTerrier on Mar 30, 2019 21:44:18 GMT 1
Has it gone wrong? We are in the highest league since 1972. If we go down, we are in the Championship - still great competitive football. So if we get relegated next year do we just say we've done well because nearly 20 years ago we were in league 2 so it's a step up playing league 1. |
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Mar 30, 2019 21:47:41 GMT 1
Has it gone wrong? We are in the highest league since 1972. If we go down, we are in the Championship - still great competitive football. So if we get relegated next year do we just say we've done well because nearly 20 years ago we were in league 2 so it's a step up playing league 1. so just to justify you talking shite you have us relegated next season?? |
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Post by WirralTerrier on Mar 30, 2019 21:51:50 GMT 1
So if we get relegated next year do we just say we've done well because nearly 20 years ago we were in league 2 so it's a step up playing league 1. so just to justify you talking shite you have us relegated next season?? Eh? I'm saying that point made is a bit silly. What shite have I said by the way? |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 30, 2019 21:52:49 GMT 1
You are in the wrong game oti lad. You are in the wrong game indeed. This typifies usual approach and your use of words --- "could" and "likely". So if we are not relegated by the 29th of March, you fall back and say, but I only said "could" so was not wrong. And if we were relegated before the 29th of March, your likely would be spun by you to mean you had predicted it, so you were right. Very clever indeed. And then just to check, if Derby were relegated on the 29th of March, and Town have been relegated on the 30th of March, were does this mean your prediction falls? Just curious (although I suspect most of us will know the answer well enough ) They were relegated at the same point of the season...6 games to go. Derby drew their relegation game 2-2...in some ways you could say Town were relegated sooner. I get it right more often than wrong....thats the key to life. No serial winners....not Hoyle...not Wagner...not Soros or Branson. Not Cloughie or Klitschko. No-one. Ups and downs but a few spend longer up. |
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Post by explorer on Mar 30, 2019 21:58:32 GMT 1
Has it gone wrong? We are in the highest league since 1972. If we go down, we are in the Championship - still great competitive football. So if we get relegated next year do we just say we've done well because nearly 20 years ago we were in league 2 so it's a step up playing league 1. So you went all way back to a quote made at the beginning of October last year just to get a dig in?? Get a life, you sad sack. |
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Post by impact on Mar 30, 2019 22:06:47 GMT 1
So if we get relegated next year do we just say we've done well because nearly 20 years ago we were in league 2 so it's a step up playing league 1. So you went all way back to a quote made at the beginning of October last year just to get a dig in?? Get a life, you sad sack. Let him enjoy revelling in us getting relegated. |
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Post by dugnet on Mar 30, 2019 22:07:25 GMT 1
Has it gone wrong? We are in the highest league since 1972. If we go down, we are in the Championship - still great competitive football. So if we get relegated next year do we just say we've done well because nearly 20 years ago we were in league 2 so it's a step up playing league 1. On what evidence do you think we might be relegated next season? Other than taking notice of negative drivel like this ! |
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Post by WirralTerrier on Mar 30, 2019 22:10:40 GMT 1
So if we get relegated next year do we just say we've done well because nearly 20 years ago we were in league 2 so it's a step up playing league 1. So you went all way back to a quote made at the beginning of October last year just to get a dig in?? Get a life, you sad sack. I clicked on a thread that was at the top of the page and then read through page one and saw that comment and replied to it. Didn't exactly go searching all the way back just to get a dig in. Plus I'm not even getting a dig in. I'm saying it's daft to suggest that this season hasn't gone wrong. |
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Post by dugnet on Mar 30, 2019 22:10:42 GMT 1
I know this forum attracts folk who probably don't own a glass let alone a half full one but you'd think the world had ended.
Let's look forward and see where we can go next. The opportunity is there....
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Post by WirralTerrier on Mar 30, 2019 22:12:07 GMT 1
So if we get relegated next year do we just say we've done well because nearly 20 years ago we were in league 2 so it's a step up playing league 1. On what evidence do you think we might be relegated next season? Other than taking notice of negative drivel like this ! I'm not saying we will. Think you've missed the point |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 30, 2019 22:15:37 GMT 1
So if we get relegated next year do we just say we've done well because nearly 20 years ago we were in league 2 so it's a step up playing league 1. So you went all way back to a quote made at the beginning of October last year just to get a dig in?? Get a life, you sad sack. I could do it a hundred times....i was challenged yesterday. Big picture and all that. I have 24 flights before the end of June...i suppose i need another life. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 30, 2019 22:18:31 GMT 1
If people think we are steaming back to the Prem they are DREAMING.
Lets see who we sign....Zahovic from Maribor, Haraslin from Gdansk, Maycon from Shaktar?
No, it will be some halfway there Brentford midfielder.
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Post by WirralTerrier on Mar 30, 2019 22:19:34 GMT 1
So you went all way back to a quote made at the beginning of October last year just to get a dig in?? Get a life, you sad sack. Let him enjoy revelling in us getting relegated. What the hell are you talking about. How am I revelling in us getting relegated. My whole point is I'm pissed off we are relegated and shouldn't be saying it's not gone wrong and be happy about it. |
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Post by dugnet on Mar 30, 2019 22:21:35 GMT 1
If people think we are steaming back to the Prem they are DREAMING. Lets see who we sign....Zahovic from Maribor, Haraslin from Gdansk, Maycon from Shaktar? No, it will be some halfway there Brentford midfielder. I haven't seen anyone think we going to walk back up? Your point about recruitment should be to ask who is responsible? That's the killer question. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 30, 2019 22:22:03 GMT 1
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Post by dugnet on Mar 30, 2019 22:23:45 GMT 1
Let him enjoy revelling in us getting relegated. What the hell are you talking about. How am I revelling in us getting relegated. My whole point is I'm pissed off we are relegated and shouldn't be saying it's not gone wrong and be happy about it. I don't think anyone is happy but the reasons why we have been relegated are understood and to a degree accepted. It's happened rather than looking back let's look forward. |
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Post by otium (EPBS) on Mar 30, 2019 22:26:14 GMT 1
When Hull got relegated his agent told me he wanted a Prem club....i mentioned it on here. Should have gone for him as well..got two today.
66 caps for Poland and he would have been less than 5 mill. The shite we signed.
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is Rebbe even doing here? DW may have just had to accept Hobson's choice on a most of the recruits. Whatever.......the squad isn't strong enough to implement the style that DW wants. If it were, I reckon we'd be seeing some entertaining stuff.
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