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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 2, 2019 22:51:35 GMT 1
Roll up, roll up, all you negative bastards...
Get your 2 penneth in here.
As a club we stand together, we fall together - I hope we can still pull out a miracle from here & will support this club till the end...
It now has to be a survival story of epic proportions...
UTT...
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Post by champ on Jan 2, 2019 22:57:40 GMT 1
Roll up, roll up, all you negative bastards... Get your 2 penneth in here. As a club we stand together, we fall together - I hope we can still pull out a miracle from here & will support this club till the end... It now has to be a survival story of epic proportions... UTT... It was an epic survival story 8 games ago. What the fuck do you people see???
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Post by Mav on Jan 2, 2019 23:05:41 GMT 1
Roll up, roll up, all you negative bastards... Get your 2 penneth in here. As a club we stand together, we fall together - I hope we can still pull out a miracle from here & will support this club till the end... It now has to be a survival story of epic proportions... UTT... It was an epic survival story 8 games ago. What the fuck do you people see??? Quick question....how long you been following Town Chump?
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 2, 2019 23:07:03 GMT 1
Roll up, roll up, all you negative bastards... Get your 2 penneth in here. As a club we stand together, we fall together - I hope we can still pull out a miracle from here & will support this club till the end... It now has to be a survival story of epic proportions... UTT... It was an epic survival story 8 games ago. What the fuck do you people see??? I see a team and a club that I've supported for donkeys yrs, that won't change in the long run & that I know go out there every 90 mins with the intention of getting a win, as unlikely as a win against some of these teams might seem beforehand. Absolutely gutted about these last few weeks, but the point I turn on the team, the club, the Mgr etc. is the day I stop supporting HTFC...
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Post by champ on Jan 2, 2019 23:08:50 GMT 1
It was an epic survival story 8 games ago. What the fuck do you people see??? Quick question....how long you been following Town Chump? Let me just get over the side splitting name gag you just dropped. 28 years or so, but my answer offers nothing in the way of relief that any bullshit you reply will make matters easier.
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Post by hdee on Jan 2, 2019 23:12:41 GMT 1
cant believe some of are fans are still believing were gonna be ok and that wagner is doing a good job
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Post by runner76 on Jan 2, 2019 23:13:30 GMT 1
It was an epic survival story 8 games ago. What the fuck do you people see??? I see a team and a club that I've supported for donkeys yrs, that won't change in the long run & that I know go out there every 90 mins with the intention of getting a win, as unlikely as a win against some of these teams might seem beforehand. Absolutely gutted about these last few weeks, but the point I turn on the team, the club, the Mgr etc. is the day I stop supporting HTFC... Exactly. It's hard to be a fan at the moment but those of us who've been supporting for decades have been through enough hard times to be a bit more philosophical about the situation. Stick together.
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Post by Big Ern on Jan 2, 2019 23:20:25 GMT 1
It was an epic survival story 8 games ago. What the fuck do you people see??? I see a team and a club that I've supported for donkeys yrs, that won't change in the long run & that I know go out there every 90 mins with the intention of getting a win, as unlikely as a win against some of these teams might seem beforehand. Absolutely gutted about these last few weeks, but the point I turn on the team, the club, the Mgr etc. is the day I stop supporting HTFC... Every intention of getting a win!!! I think your cheese has slipped off its cracker. Go and review the substitutions we have made and the starting line ups over the last 8 games we have played and come back to me
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 2, 2019 23:33:59 GMT 1
I see a team and a club that I've supported for donkeys yrs, that won't change in the long run & that I know go out there every 90 mins with the intention of getting a win, as unlikely as a win against some of these teams might seem beforehand. Absolutely gutted about these last few weeks, but the point I turn on the team, the club, the Mgr etc. is the day I stop supporting HTFC... Every intention of getting a win!!! I think your cheese has slipped off its cracker. Go and review the substitutions we have made and the starting line ups over the last 8 games we have played and come back to me Why don't you go and manage if it's so simple then? We're in a position that we've not been in for 2 generations, trying to compete in a relatively alien environment & one that, to be fair, has no semblance of operating as any normal business & P&L would. I think we've had a shocking last few games, but it might also surprise people like yourself that all those defeats have been marginal, even the OT one & Soton ones. The OT not for a lack of having a go and Soton because their 3rd goal was a gift... So, yes, I do think these lads walk out hoping that this is the game where it all starts to come right for them. If they walk out with any different mindset then I'd be rightly pissed off...
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Post by Lard Buttie on Jan 3, 2019 7:42:23 GMT 1
2 cheap shots................off target in 90 mins thread??
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Post by Christ in Shades (art) on Jan 3, 2019 7:53:11 GMT 1
I can understand some people concerned with the rather forthright views on here but I honestly can't believe some people's constant, for the want of a better word 'optimism' when it's clear we really do look an awful side, managed by a manager who seems to be out of his depth, who has brought in players which are, to put it mildly, lower end Championship players. I'd expect Mbenza to be turning out for Rotherham. Hoyle talked about not sleepwalking in to relegation but unfortunately we've had our eyes closed since last May.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 3, 2019 7:57:09 GMT 1
I can understand some people concerned with the rather forthright views on here but I honestly can't believe some people's constant, for the want of a better word 'optimism' when it's clear we really do look an awful side, managed by a manager who seems to be out of his depth, who has brought in players which are, to put it mildly, lower end Championship players. I'd expect Mbenza to be turning out for Rotherham. Hoyle talked about not sleepwalking in to relegation but unfortunately we've had our eyes closed since last May. We are playing better than last season apparently. 8 defeats in a row would suggest otherwise. Our negative approach and abysmal summer transfer window are the reason we are going down. The fact we are signing jason puncheon doesn't fill me with any optimism for this window or the future.
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Post by Metch on Jan 3, 2019 8:06:23 GMT 1
Every club has its screamers. Change this! Change that! Sack the manager! Sack the chairman! Buy a star striker! The sane have to tolerate them, they are part of football. We have had nigh on 15 years of progress with DH. Long term planning and solid foundations. In DH and DW i trust. Just look around at clubs like Sheff Weds. We are so lucky. If its 1 year of relegation, so be it. I wouldn 't swop either of them.
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Post by bluedogs, Esq. on Jan 3, 2019 8:08:56 GMT 1
One Jägerbomb, please.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 3, 2019 9:05:24 GMT 1
If you can just give the bar staff a few mins Sir? It seems some of the regulars have brought infants into the tap room and they're just busy clearing up a load of dummies off the floor...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 9:08:53 GMT 1
Every club has its screamers. Change this! Change that! Sack the manager! Sack the chairman! Buy a star striker! The sane have to tolerate them, they are part of football. We have had nigh on 15 years of progress with DH. Long term planning and solid foundations. In DH and DW i trust. Just look around at clubs like Sheff Weds. We are so lucky. If its 1 year of relegation, so be it. I wouldn 't swop either of them. So Hoyle's been here for 15 years has he? Shut up.
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Post by Mav on Jan 3, 2019 9:27:56 GMT 1
Every club has its screamers. Change this! Change that! Sack the manager! Sack the chairman! Buy a star striker! The sane have to tolerate them, they are part of football. We have had nigh on 15 years of progress with DH. Long term planning and solid foundations. In DH and DW i trust. Just look around at clubs like Sheff Weds. We are so lucky. If its 1 year of relegation, so be it. I wouldn 't swop either of them. Spot on mate.
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Post by El Mel on Jan 3, 2019 9:35:36 GMT 1
Imagine being so upset about folk who have been airing their concerns for months and months and months, and are now being proved correct - that you have to start a thread that attempts to belittle their views.
Anyway, there's some tasty fixtures to look forward to next season, barring a miracle.
We should be competitive, we better be competitive. This season has gone pretty badly on lots of fronts, and there's still a long way to go, so we need to salvage some pride from it, if nothing else.
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Post by explorer on Jan 3, 2019 9:46:32 GMT 1
Imagine being so upset about folk who have been airing their concerns for months and months and months, and are now being proved correct - that you have to start a thread that attempts to belittle their views. Anyway, there's some tasty fixtures to look forward to next season, barring a miracle. We should be competitive, we better be competitive. This season has gone pretty badly on lots of fronts, and there's still a long way to go, so we need to salvage some pride from it, if nothing else. Yes, all the doom-mongers who constantly whinge and moan about everything without offering any (sensible) solutions to the problems can now sit there with a smug look on their faces and say - “See, told you so!” So congratulations, Mole you were right. You must be really pleased that it’s all turned out so well for you.
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Post by de1terrier on Jan 3, 2019 9:53:53 GMT 1
Every club has its screamers. Change this! Change that! Sack the manager! Sack the chairman! Buy a star striker! The sane have to tolerate them, they are part of football. We have had nigh on 15 years of progress with DH. Long term planning and solid foundations. In DH and DW i trust. Just look around at clubs like Sheff Weds. We are so lucky. If its 1 year of relegation, so be it. I wouldn 't swop either of them. So Hoyle's been here for 15 years has he? Shut up. Nearly 11 years, but I'm sure people can be forgiven for feeling like its been longer when you consider the change in the club between then and now.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2019 9:56:33 GMT 1
Imagine being so upset about folk who have been airing their concerns for months and months and months, and are now being proved correct - that you have to start a thread that attempts to belittle their views. Anyway, there's some tasty fixtures to look forward to next season, barring a miracle. We should be competitive, we better be competitive. This season has gone pretty badly on lots of fronts, and there's still a long way to go, so we need to salvage some pride from it, if nothing else. yeah, im looking forward to getting back to the real world. Only just realised barnsley arnt in the champ. Was hoping for another free day on the booze. Qpr away, 10 pound train travel last time with no match ticket. Completely arseholed by fulltime. Great days. Great days
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Post by El Mel on Jan 3, 2019 9:59:14 GMT 1
Imagine being so upset about folk who have been airing their concerns for months and months and months, and are now being proved correct - that you have to start a thread that attempts to belittle their views. Anyway, there's some tasty fixtures to look forward to next season, barring a miracle. We should be competitive, we better be competitive. This season has gone pretty badly on lots of fronts, and there's still a long way to go, so we need to salvage some pride from it, if nothing else. Yes, all the doom-mongers who constantly whinge and moan about everything without offering any (sensible) solutions to the problems can now sit there with a smug look on their faces and say - “See, told you so!” So congratulations, Mole you were right. You must be really pleased that it’s all turned out so well for you. That post is as bad as the OP's mate. The sensible solutions were offered months ago. Take more risks, less passing backwards and sideways, stop playing with defensive formations and going into a home match against Cardiff with a game plan of "We'll try to tire them for 80 minutes and then get a late goal to win the game". But, I'll be marked down as a negative bastard, and so be it. Couldn't give a toss. My views on Wagner have been pretty consistent, and I stand by them. I'm grateful for what he and everybody else involved in the last few seasons have given us - that includes the fans as well, we've all seen something we never thought possible.
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Jan 3, 2019 10:04:38 GMT 1
Let me just get over the side splitting name gag you just dropped. 28 years or so, but my answer offers nothing in the way of relief that any bullshit you reply will make matters easier. What it does tell me is that you've seen much worse in that 28 years for your current reaction to be a tad OTT. You've seen League 2 football and turgid times under the stewardship of people like Ternent, Wadsworth and Powell, yet you react as if this is the absolute pits. Granted, it is not easy to see us struggle week in, week out, but during the good runs why don't you post constantly saying how good we've got it, and praising the squad/management. It just always seems that people become vocal on here when it's going awry, which merely adds to the feeling of antagonism. What needs to change, champ? Would you get rid of Wagner and refresh it again? Chances are we'd keep the next appointment in-house, potentially Whitehead or Hughes. There's not a single manager currently out of work that i think i'd want at the helm, however much i feel a little frustrated with Wagner currently, as i am able to look back at better times and hope we can get there. If we go down, so be it, no point bleating about it. We're going down to a level we know well, with new expectancy levels due to Premier League money and 2 seasons in a tougher division.
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Post by mrg on Jan 3, 2019 10:04:54 GMT 1
cant believe some of are fans are still believing were gonna be ok and that wagner is doing a good job I'm not sure anyone is saying that any more are they?
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Post by WirralTerrier on Jan 3, 2019 10:12:13 GMT 1
It was an epic survival story 8 games ago. What the fuck do you people see??? I see a team and a club that I've supported for donkeys yrs, that won't change in the long run & that I know go out there every 90 mins with the intention of getting a win, as unlikely as a win against some of these teams might seem beforehand. Absolutely gutted about these last few weeks, but the point I turn on the team, the club, the Mgr etc. is the day I stop supporting HTFC... Were you saying all this with Ritchie, Wandsworth, Powell etc? Doubt it
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Post by wildwestmidlands on Jan 3, 2019 10:13:10 GMT 1
Personally I'm hoping all the whingers and moaners get so fed up they fek off so I can occasionally make the trek up and actually get a ticket. Anyone who has watched Town (not just Town of course, any football team) for any length of time surely knows it is nearly always going to be hard work. Of course that hard work is generally sprinkled with moments of pure joy and excitement (yes even this season). Makes me laugh that so many people (apparently) spend most of their lives watching something which on the face of it gives them so little enjoyment. Of course they probably just talk louder than the rest of us most of the time, so it seems like there are so sooo many of them .... of course I'm not a proper supporter really
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Post by yorkshiretripod on Jan 3, 2019 10:23:21 GMT 1
I see a team and a club that I've supported for donkeys yrs, that won't change in the long run & that I know go out there every 90 mins with the intention of getting a win, as unlikely as a win against some of these teams might seem beforehand. Absolutely gutted about these last few weeks, but the point I turn on the team, the club, the Mgr etc. is the day I stop supporting HTFC... We're you saying all this with Ritchie, Wandsworth, Powell etc? Doubt it I stopped going down as often under Powell and Wadsworth, because it was uninspiring and dull football. Also, at the time, i had financial constraints. I'll be honest, i'm hugely underwhelmed by the PL, but then i've never agreed with the 'best league in the world' tag, anyway, but i don't rant about how dull it is, i'm a much calmer person than i used to be. It's football ultimately, and not worth busting a blood vessel over.
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Post by wigster on Jan 3, 2019 10:26:50 GMT 1
But to be fair, manfromAtlantis, your bit about "intention of getting a win,as unlikely as a win against some of these teams might seem beforehand" may well apply to some matches, but there's a hell of a lot it should not do - Cardiff, Burnley, Fulham,Newcastle,Southampton,Palace etc . I've seen some good teams this year - the top 5 or 6 - but I've seen a hell of a lot of quite frankly mediocre or even poor ones.
I admire your optimism but if we had been set up differently, rather than the must-not-lose approach we seem to adopt against every team, things could have been so different. Statistics don't mean everything - goals for,defeats, points etc - but I've definitely seen some bloody boring negative timorous performances in the last 18 months, (old cracked record)starting with that Spurs match last season. We never recovered from that.
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Post by WirralTerrier on Jan 3, 2019 10:39:14 GMT 1
We're you saying all this with Ritchie, Wandsworth, Powell etc? Doubt it I stopped going down as often under Powell and Wadsworth, because it was uninspiring and dull football. Also, at the time, i had financial constraints. I'll be honest, i'm hugely underwhelmed by the PL, but then i've never agreed with the 'best league in the world' tag, anyway, but i don't rant about how dull it is, i'm a much calmer person than i used to be. It's football ultimately, and not worth busting a blood vessel over. This pretty much sums up my feelings really. I had always hoped as a kid we would make it to the prem but now we are here I'm an adult with kids and not with the view of football is everything anymore. If people want to have a moan then why not. It's just as annoying seeing people being massively positive and optimistic about things, parading it like it means they are a better fan than other people and like they are going to get a medal from Dean to honour their support on datm.
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Post by themanfromatlantis on Jan 3, 2019 11:15:52 GMT 1
I stopped going down as often under Powell and Wadsworth, because it was uninspiring and dull football. Also, at the time, i had financial constraints. I'll be honest, i'm hugely underwhelmed by the PL, but then i've never agreed with the 'best league in the world' tag, anyway, but i don't rant about how dull it is, i'm a much calmer person than i used to be. It's football ultimately, and not worth busting a blood vessel over. This pretty much sums up my feelings really. I had always hoped as a kid we would make it to the prem but now we are here I'm an adult with kids and not with the view of football is everything anymore. If people want to have a moan then why not. It's just as annoying seeing people being massively positive and optimistic about things, parading it like it means they are a better fan than other people and like they are going to get a medal from Dean to honour their support on datm. Just because I remain blindly optimistic I'm thinking I'm a better fan am I? FFS... That's the problem with internet forums, people twist an opinion until it looks the right sort of shape for them to disagree with, or suggest the poster is meaning something totally different. I'm one of the most hypocritical fans truth be told. Hardly go nowadays because of various time constraints and other factors, but Town are still a massive part of my 'not really important stuff in life' life. I've supported the club since the mid 70's, used to go far more as a kid... I just struggle with people nit picking all the time, gutted about last night still, but if we go down it's something many have experienced before, but the most recent experience of relegation always seems the worst for everyone. The internet just exacerbates everything like this. Reality is that relegation from the PL (if it happens) is far from the end of the world, but I still don't think the players and mgmt aren't trying to rectify things and sort it out & will battle onto until the bitter end (or a miraculous achievement). As for the Q about Wadsworth & co., that was dire but we were also competing at a different level. That's the crux of the issue for me, that there are a few who miss the context that performing poorly in the PL is totally different to performing poorly in L1. If it's success that the supporters want to experience then you have to accept that at a club like Town, any success will have to be smattered with a few failures. It simply has to be. We have to be relegated to be able to experience the success of a promotion. Our opportunity to compete in the PL & be truly successful is so limited nowadays mainly due to the money & it would grate on me if we really did get daft and start spaffing daft money to try and stay afloat in a league that's quite frankly, over-hyped & has snake oil salesmen at the helm... We're a club that's punching well above our weight just now. People like me get frustrated by the negative nit picking, the negative posters call the blind optimists like me a happy clapper & vice versa. Couldn't be further from the truth on both counts. I expect both camps are feeling pretty miserable about Town just now, it's just that we take a different view of how we try to pull ourselves out of the abyss...
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