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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Jan 5, 2019 23:24:56 GMT 1
Lambert was poor at blackburn, took stoke down and is bottom now with Ipswich and gone out of the cup today like us. Coyly done nothing of note for years - was ok with burnley but been grim since and out of touch. Not had a 30% win record since 2010. . The point I'm making is that both were outstanding young managers who had promotions to the Premier League. They are now seen as managers that no one wants to touch Who knows which way it will go for Wagner but he's not showing me any signs of being a top manager at the moment
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jan 5, 2019 23:25:09 GMT 1
The wheels came off in summer, a month ago the car caught fire from all the sparks caused from not stopping to sort out the issue. Give over we were playing well but getting no luck eg Liverpool at home and had a good November (Wagner short listed for manager of the month) I’m down tonight but make no mistake 2 years ago we were losing £6m a year ... that’s over £100k a WEEK - when people talk of the club going one way before Wagner there was only one way we were going - admin Now we have a safer future albeit in the championship My loyalty to Wagner extends longer than 5 weeks of poor results Come off it FFS. We are playing hopelessly bad, and your loyalty is (or should be) to Huddersfield Town, not David Wagner, and right now David Wagner is NOT what this club needs.
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Post by capitalterrier on Jan 5, 2019 23:28:43 GMT 1
Bloody hope not Wagner has been manager for 32 months - it’s only in the last month the wheels have come off As for Hoyle - we simply wont get a better chairman in my lifetime ... so be careful what you wish for This. Our poor run has also coincided with several bullshit refereeing decisions and our best player being injured.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 5, 2019 23:29:55 GMT 1
Chinese takeaway.
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Post by teddytheterrier on Jan 5, 2019 23:30:50 GMT 1
Bloody hope not Wagner has been manager for 32 months - it’s only in the last month the wheels have come off As for Hoyle - we simply wont get a better chairman in my lifetime ... so be careful what you wish for This. Our poor run has also coincided with several bullshit refereeing decisions and our best player being injured. Also shows he has zero plan B. Hasn't a clue.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 5, 2019 23:31:27 GMT 1
Give over we were playing well but getting no luck eg Liverpool at home and had a good November (Wagner short listed for manager of the month) I’m down tonight but make no mistake 2 years ago we were losing £6m a year ... that’s over £100k a WEEK - when people talk of the club going one way before Wagner there was only one way we were going - admin Now we have a safer future albeit in the championship My loyalty to Wagner extends longer than 5 weeks of poor results Come off it FFS. We are playing hopelessly bad, and your loyalty is (or should be) to Huddersfield Town, not David Wagner, and right now David Wagner is NOT what this club needs. Of course my loyalty is to Huddersfield rather than Wagner - what a ridiculous thing to say! I believe the best thing for the club is to have faith with our best manager in the modern era Others want to twist and get “someone” in and miraculously expect an upturn. Why not ask the Fulham fans if they’d have their manager back if we all think he’s the man ... he can’t organise a defence and his first home game would be Man City!
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Post by slackjaw on Jan 5, 2019 23:49:57 GMT 1
Dean knows we cannot compete at this level with the finances he is able to put in. The Premier League now is just one huge ''my club is better than yours' rich owners game. Dean cannot compete. If there is a takeover in the offing (I'm not sure there is but i'll bite) then whoever comes in would have to be absolutely bloody minted beyond belief to compete with the top six who can piss money away like it's nothing. It’s not competing with the top six,it’s the fact that we aren’t competing with anyone,you don’t need billionaire owners to put tackles in,to run hard,to jump for headers,and as my grandad used to say “to get your fucking shorts dirty “ for some reason we’ve lost all our fight? And to me that’s what’s unacceptable,not the millions in bank I couldn’t give a shit about that but what’s happening at the moment is not on and something needs to change and fast.Luckily for us Dean Hoyle is as ruthless as it gets and won’t put up with this for much longer.Utt
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Post by BLUE&WHITE on Jan 5, 2019 23:50:54 GMT 1
Dean knows we cannot compete at this level with the finances he is able to put in. The Premier League now is just one huge ''my club is better than yours' rich owners game. Dean cannot compete. If there is a takeover in the offing (I'm not sure there is but i'll bite) then whoever comes in would have to be absolutely bloody minted beyond belief to compete with the top six who can piss money away like it's nothing. It’s not competing with the top six,it’s the fact that we aren’t competing with anyone,you don’t need billionaire owners to put tackles in,to run hard,to jump for headers,and as my grandad used to say “to get your fucking shorts dirty “ for some reason we’ve lost all our fight? And to me that’s what’s unacceptable,not the millions in bank I couldn’t give a shit about that but what’s happening at the moment is not on and something needs to change and fast.Luckily for us Dean Hoyle is as ruthless as it gets and won’t put up with this for much longer.Utt 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 0:38:50 GMT 1
Bloody hope not Wagner has been manager for 32 months - it’s only in the last month the wheels have come offGive over....there isn’t a team in England that has had a worse run of results than us over the last 12 months. It’s not temporary bad form...it’s how things are.
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Post by Jack on Jan 6, 2019 0:41:49 GMT 1
Give over we were playing well but getting no luck eg Liverpool at home and had a good November (Wagner short listed for manager of the month) I’m down tonight but make no mistake 2 years ago we were losing £6m a year ... that’s over £100k a WEEK - when people talk of the club going one way before Wagner there was only one way we were going - admin Now we have a safer future albeit in the championship My loyalty to Wagner extends longer than 5 weeks of poor results Come off it FFS. We are playing hopelessly bad, and your loyalty is (or should be) to Huddersfield Town, not David Wagner, and right now David Wagner is NOT what this club needs. He's everything this club needs.
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Post by terrierpark on Jan 6, 2019 0:47:52 GMT 1
League 1 .....we need home grown players to stay in the division until DH takes over and invests and we become a force in the division. Championship....We cant compete ....richer owners, parachute payments , blah blah until Wagner and a new approach and luck that winning brings Premiership.....We cant compete So the only division DH and his cash can compete in is League 1 Anyone expecting patachute money to see us challenging to get promoted again is misguided.Wages and sensible spending only will see to that.
I hope we are to be taken over because having watched town for 38 years I want to see us stay in this premiership the way we are throwing it all away is just disgraceful
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Post by shatterrier on Jan 6, 2019 0:55:28 GMT 1
Bloody hope so. Think its time to move on in a different direction. Which direction, oh wise one.
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Post by capitalterrier on Jan 6, 2019 1:01:05 GMT 1
Dean knows we cannot compete at this level with the finances he is able to put in. The Premier League now is just one huge ''my club is better than yours' rich owners game. Dean cannot compete. If there is a takeover in the offing (I'm not sure there is but i'll bite) then whoever comes in would have to be absolutely bloody minted beyond belief to compete with the top six who can piss money away like it's nothing. It’s not competing with the top six,it’s the fact that we aren’t competing with anyone,you don’t need billionaire owners to put tackles in,to run hard,to jump for headers,and as my grandad used to say “to get your fucking shorts dirty “ for some reason we’ve lost all our fight? And to me that’s what’s unacceptable,not the millions in bank I couldn’t give a shit about that but what’s happening at the moment is not on and something needs to change and fast.Luckily for us Dean Hoyle is as ruthless as it gets and won’t put up with this for much longer.Utt To say we've lost our fight is just lazy criticism. Today there were always 2 or 3 players chasing the ball down or pressing the man in possession. Our attacking play leaves much to be desired but there shouldn't be any moaning about effort exerted. Then again, that wouldn't fit with a lot of the agendas on here...
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Post by capitalterrier on Jan 6, 2019 1:03:37 GMT 1
Bloody hope not Wagner has been manager for 32 months - it’s only in the last month the wheels have come offGive over....there isn’t a team in England that has had a worse run of results than us over the last 12 months. It’s not temporary bad form...it’s how things are. Yet shortlisted for manager of the month only 6 weeks ago 😂
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 1:06:26 GMT 1
Bloody hope so. Think its time to move on in a different direction. Which direction, oh wise one. forwards instead of sideways and backwards on the pitch would be a start
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 1:07:03 GMT 1
League 1 .....we need home grown players to stay in the division until DH takes over and invests and we become a force in the division. Championship....We cant compete ....richer owners, parachute payments , blah blah until Wagner and a new approach and luck that winning brings Premiership.....We cant compete So the only division DH and his cash can compete in is League 1 Anyone expecting patachute money to see us challenging to get promoted again is misguided.Wages and sensible spending only will see to that. I hope we are to be taken over because having watched town for 38 years I want to see us stay in this premiership the way we are throwing it all away is just disgraceful Compared with me and my neighbour you're a newcomer. 130 years between us. We are going down, but will rise again fear ye not.
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Post by nicovaesen on Jan 6, 2019 1:14:23 GMT 1
Will mounies red card be held in the same light as stewey being sold? I’ve just watched the latest black mirror bandersnatch, about making good and bad decisions and the repercussions of them. Got me thinking about that moment and how up to it we seemed to have our mojo back!
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Post by terryhair57 on Jan 6, 2019 1:41:12 GMT 1
Yes we are - involuntarily perhaps
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 1:49:39 GMT 1
Give over....there isn’t a team in England that has had a worse run of results than us over the last 12 months. It’s not temporary bad form...it’s how things are. Yet shortlisted for manager of the month only 6 weeks ago 😂 Except he didn’t get manager of the month, and it was a month where we had just THREE games, a win over a Fulham team that had lost 5 on the trot and were well into their worst run of the season, a draw against a West Ham team that was on their worst run of the season (one win in 5), and a win over a Wolves team who were 4 games without a win into their worst run of the season so far. That was a brief temporary positive form blip against teams who were in the middle of temporary down blips, compared to a long and sustained backdrop of losing football from Town. If you can’t see and acknowledge that then you’re beyond reason.
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Post by Ibiza Town on Jan 6, 2019 1:56:35 GMT 1
Will mounies red card be held in the same light as stewey being sold? I’ve just watched the latest black mirror bandersnatch, about making good and bad decisions and the repercussions of them. Got me thinking about that moment and how up to it we seemed to have our mojo back! Pivotal moment in our season
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Post by terriers321 on Jan 6, 2019 2:01:17 GMT 1
We rarely win games when Mounies playing so I don’t know why people think that sending off was the turning point.
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Post by ACW on Jan 6, 2019 2:09:23 GMT 1
Yet shortlisted for manager of the month only 6 weeks ago 😂 Except he didn’t get manager of the month, and it was a month where we had just THREE games, a win over a Fulham team that had lost 5 on the trot and were well into their worst run of the season, a draw against a West Ham team that was on their worst run of the season (one win in 5), and a win over a Wolves team who were 4 games without a win into their worst run of the season so far. That was a brief temporary positive form blip against teams who were in the middle of temporary down blips, compared to a long and sustained backdrop of losing football from Town. If you can’t see and acknowledge that then you’re beyond reason. The ability of some fans to belittle and undermine every achievement knows no bounds...
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Post by The Sheriff Strikes Back on Jan 6, 2019 2:46:10 GMT 1
Come off it FFS. We are playing hopelessly bad, and your loyalty is (or should be) to Huddersfield Town, not David Wagner, and right now David Wagner is NOT what this club needs. He's everything this club needs. A record setting losing streak, a total goal drought, and a squad of players looking less and less capable with each passing game... Yep he's exactly what we need.
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Post by dugnet on Jan 6, 2019 3:39:21 GMT 1
League 1 .....we need home grown players to stay in the division until DH takes over and invests and we become a force in the division. Championship....We cant compete ....richer owners, parachute payments , blah blah until Wagner and a new approach and luck that winning brings Premiership.....We cant compete So the only division DH and his cash can compete in is League 1 Anyone expecting patachute money to see us challenging to get promoted again is misguided.Wages and sensible spending only will see to that. I hope we are to be taken over because having watched town for 38 years I want to see us stay in this premiership the way we are throwing it all away is just disgraceful Disgraceful?? Come off it, you're the sage who told us we'd all been deceived...and then mysteriously disappeared when we got promoted and stayed up. Without DHs investment we wouldn't have got out of League 1 (I really don't think you can credibly argue otherwise). Similarly he bankrolled the club in the Championship but was also transparent about the club needing to be self sufficient. He took a punt on DW and also offered fans cheap season tickets, and wow that turned out spectacularly successful. We spent prudently and retained our Premier League status. We have got ourselves into a pickle with poor recruitment decisions and the reality hitting home that competing in this league requires deeper pockets than even the Premier League riches we receive. It's a harsh reality but it is what it is. Now if you can find a stable investor who has a billionaires cheque book and has a coherent plan of how to run a football club...oh and wants to invest in a traditional club with a reasonably sized (no more) and passionate fan base then bring them forward and let them make DH an offer for the club. DH has said he will stand aside, I'm sure he'd honour that. It's all too easy to snipe from the side lines about what a disgrace it is. But do you really think that either DW and DH want to see the progress made thrown away? Do you think they don't care? Do you not accept that they have done things, within the financial constraints they have agreed, with the best and honourable intentions? The fact is that we have come up short and have to face that fact that, despite making some genuine mistakes, it's bloody tough going. It would indeed be disgraceful if we had placed the club in a perilous financial position. I think it is less than disgraceful to try, and fail, to work within the constraints you have set yourself. Constraints set openly for good reasons, but constraints which make life very hard. Yes recruitment mistakes have been made but honest ones. The answer ultimately is to get a bigger investor in or magic up the quality of players we need at the money we can pay. I think describing it as disgraceful is somewhere between crass and.....well...disgraceful.
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Post by HuddsTerrier on Jan 6, 2019 6:27:40 GMT 1
Bloody hope not Wagner has been manager for 32 months - it’s only in the last month the wheels have come offGive over....there isn’t a team in England that has had a worse run of results than us over the last 12 months. It’s not temporary bad form...it’s how things are. But all teams are not equal We were favourites to be bottom of our league last season and second favourites to be bottom this season so of course we’ll come near the bottom of that stat Does anyone expect we’d be mid table? Here’s another stat 72 teams sit below us in the league ladder presently and last season only 15 teams were better than us in the country I’ve not enjoyed the results - who would - but equally I’m realistic enough to understand we’re up against it at this level ... and it will always be the case if we play at this level. Assuming we go down I would expect us to be challenging next year and I think we will - if not I’d fully agree get rid. Similarly if Wagner doesn’t commit for next season then I don’t see the point in not changing things (providing there’s the right man able to step in either now or pre contract starting in the summer) People will say look at Bristol but you’re talking a side unbeaten in 8 versus one who haven’t won in 8 in a one off match. We opened them up 4 times and then gave a sloppy goal away - and that’s without the players I expect will leave (mooy, billing, kongolo, Schindler). If that’s us at our worse and the championships form team we should go okay next season
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Post by slackjaw on Jan 6, 2019 8:18:59 GMT 1
It’s not competing with the top six,it’s the fact that we aren’t competing with anyone,you don’t need billionaire owners to put tackles in,to run hard,to jump for headers,and as my grandad used to say “to get your fucking shorts dirty “ for some reason we’ve lost all our fight? And to me that’s what’s unacceptable,not the millions in bank I couldn’t give a shit about that but what’s happening at the moment is not on and something needs to change and fast.Luckily for us Dean Hoyle is as ruthless as it gets and won’t put up with this for much longer.Utt To say we've lost our fight is just lazy criticism. Today there were always 2 or 3 players chasing the ball down or pressing the man in possession. Our attacking play leaves much to be desired but there shouldn't be any moaning about effort exerted. Then again, that wouldn't fit with a lot of the agendas on here... No worries,if you think that was a team giving it’s maximum then fair enough I’m not going to fall out with anyone over it.If that’s all we’ve got for the next 17 games then so be it,it will be 17 very embarrassing defeats.
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Post by RickDangerous on Jan 6, 2019 8:44:43 GMT 1
When is the mortgage on the stadium paid up?
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Post by johnr on Jan 6, 2019 9:34:26 GMT 1
Give over we were playing well but getting no luck eg Liverpool at home and had a good November (Wagner short listed for manager of the month) I’m down tonight but make no mistake 2 years ago we were losing £6m a year ... that’s over £100k a WEEK - when people talk of the club going one way before Wagner there was only one way we were going - admin Now we have a safer future albeit in the championship My loyalty to Wagner extends longer than 5 weeks of poor results Come off it FFS. We are playing hopelessly bad, and your loyalty is (or should be) to Huddersfield Town, not David Wagner, and right now David Wagner is NOT what this club needs. I've been saying that all along. Our loyalty should be to the Club First and not the Manager First and what we all know, Wagner's long term inability to get our attack right, he just cant do it,face facts, certainly not without bringing in good attacking coaches anyway to help him,isn't what this club needs.Not doing anything about that known long term inability of his. Weve known he cant get us to score for all his reign,not doing anything about that,putting him first at absolutely all costs before the club is what has us down and has hurt the club badly never mind probably hurt lot of our supporters too who have been through all or almost all the nightmare of the 45 years stuck outside the top division (like I have by the way) before and maybe about to be put through it again because not doing anything about Wagner's LONG TERM KNOWN ABOUT inability to get us scoring. Ive been saying these things a long time and certainly have got lots of abuse for it.What lot of them miss is I am extremely loyal to some players who have proven they always give 100% in the past and I am always extremely loyal to what is best for the club.And it doesn't mean we dont respect Wagner for taking us up it just means we dont think hes up to the job to cement a place for us in the Premier League long term and we dont think hes prob going to be up to the job to take us back to the Premier League either because many teams will have learned the way he has the team playing and he still wont know how to get us to score in the Championship either just like in the season he took us up when we were the first team to go up on a negative goal difference it'll be the same again struggling to score again unless he at least gets attacking coaches in to help him which Im not sure if his ego will allow because that would then be admitting that he and the current coaches dont know how to get our attack right and admitting that they need to bring in attacking coaches to help them or just replacements for some of the coaches to help Wagner with his attacking tactics inability so we have a chance of getting one of the basics scoring goals at the other end a bit right at least to give us more chance at bouncing back and far more chance at cementing a long term place in the Premier League once we get there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 6, 2019 9:35:38 GMT 1
Except he didn’t get manager of the month, and it was a month where we had just THREE games, a win over a Fulham team that had lost 5 on the trot and were well into their worst run of the season, a draw against a West Ham team that was on their worst run of the season (one win in 5), and a win over a Wolves team who were 4 games without a win into their worst run of the season so far. That was a brief temporary positive form blip against teams who were in the middle of temporary down blips, compared to a long and sustained backdrop of losing football from Town. If you can’t see and acknowledge that then you’re beyond reason. The ability of some fans to belittle and undermine every achievement knows no bounds... Another one beyond reason. We’ve been returning rubbish results for a year, not a month. It’s an indisputable fact. Other person was using THREE not really that impressive results from two months ago to attempt to suggest that we’re in some kind of temporary blip and that losing is not “the way things are”. This kind of attitude is the reason we are where we are....we’ve not moved forward and we’ve not forced that.
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Post by johnr on Jan 6, 2019 9:36:09 GMT 1
To say we've lost our fight is just lazy criticism. Today there were always 2 or 3 players chasing the ball down or pressing the man in possession. Our attacking play leaves much to be desired but there shouldn't be any moaning about effort exerted. Then again, that wouldn't fit with a lot of the agendas on here... No worries,if you think that was a team giving it’s maximum then fair enough I’m not going to fall out with anyone over it.If that’s all we’ve got for the next 17 games then so be it,it will be 17 very embarrassing defeats. He obviously never saw Buxtons Team ?
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