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Post by Porrohman on Feb 9, 2019 19:55:29 GMT 1
You would have to watch VLP for 4 or 5 weeks to see as much contribution from him as we got in one game from Diakhaby today. I'd have liked to see VLP on the other wing, not as much as I'd have liked to see Mbenza there but still...
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 9, 2019 20:01:36 GMT 1
You would have to watch VLP for 4 or 5 weeks to see as much contribution from him as we got in one game from Diakhaby today. I'd have liked to see VLP on the other wing, not as much as I'd have liked to see Mbenza there but still... Thought Kachunga did quite well but agree it would be good to have real pace on both sides of the pitch
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Post by andyeastleake on Feb 9, 2019 20:03:55 GMT 1
Diakhaby the best player on the pitch. Again. I wouldn't argue with the first part for a heartbeat. However you'll have to remind me when he was previously. I fear its fake news.
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Post by yellowbelly on Feb 9, 2019 20:34:24 GMT 1
If he can be coached into going the other way now and again, watch out.
He wasn’t picked out by Monaco for nothing
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Post by gymroidspump on Feb 9, 2019 20:42:41 GMT 1
Diakhaby the best player on the pitch. Again. I wouldn't argue with the first part for a heartbeat. However you'll have to remind me when he was previously. I fear its fake news. Biggest threat we had against Chelsea. Unless it was those bursting runs from Mooy that did it for you against The Chels
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Post by Siehe grün on Feb 9, 2019 20:47:03 GMT 1
I thought he was great when given the ball today. Improvements need to be made to his decision making and final ball but he’s young. And he will improve.
I was also impressed with Bacuna again today.
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Post by wigster on Feb 9, 2019 20:48:08 GMT 1
I thought he had an excellent game today - fast, tricky, thought about his different deliveries. Very promising indeed.
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Post by andyeastleake on Feb 9, 2019 20:51:22 GMT 1
I wouldn't argue with the first part for a heartbeat. However you'll have to remind me when he was previously. I fear its fake news. Biggest threat we had against Chelsea. Unless it was those bursting runs from Mooy that did it for you against The Chels TBF if Chelsea is the game you're referring to, even being our best player wouldn't have put him near the top five on the pitch. ...& TBF you overate his effectiveness that day. Better today.
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Post by CanaryIsleTerrier on Feb 9, 2019 20:57:29 GMT 1
I thought he had an excellent game today - fast, tricky, thought about his different deliveries. Very promising indeed. Yep I’d agree. Just a shame it’s February and he is promising, we’ve had him since August.
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Post by Jack on Feb 9, 2019 21:05:28 GMT 1
Biggest threat we had against Chelsea. Unless it was those bursting runs from Mooy that did it for you against The Chels TBF if Chelsea is the game you're referring to, even being our best player wouldn't have put him near the top five on the pitch. ...& TBF you overate his effectiveness that day. Better today. Greedy b*stard.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 9, 2019 21:37:25 GMT 1
I thought he had an excellent game today - fast, tricky, thought about his different deliveries. Very promising indeed. Yep I’d agree. Just a shame it’s February and he is promising, we’ve had him since August. What could he do about a previous manager not picking him? That combined with settling in to a new country explains most of it
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Post by shawsie on Feb 9, 2019 21:43:42 GMT 1
Yep I’d agree. Just a shame it’s February and he is promising, we’ve had him since August. What could he do about a previous manager not picking him? That combined with settling in to a new country explains most of it He could have made it impossible for Wagner to leave him out! Done nothing of great note all season - him and mbenza have been woeful in the main. Along with bacuna they are what we didn't need - young lads with raw potential. Not players who are ready for the premier league. He might end up a decent signing .......but he's a long long way from being so right now. We simply have to be patient I suppose.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 9, 2019 21:48:16 GMT 1
What could he do about a previous manager not picking him? That combined with settling in to a new country explains most of it He could have made it impossible for Wagner to leave him out! Done nothing of great note all season - him and mbenza have been woeful in the main. Along with bacuna they are what we didn't need - young lads with raw potential. Not players who are ready for the premier league. He might end up a decent signing .......but he's a long long way from being so right now. We simply have to be patient I suppose. Have you seen a winger in a Town shirt play better than he did today? Consider the quality of the opposition before you answer that He's had 4 straight starts and he's already producing performances of that level. There is a post on the Arsenal forum saying they made our right winger look world class, slightly tongue in cheek perhaps but he clearly stood out. None of us saw training but it's clear to me that Wagner wasn't picking Diakhaby purely because he couldn't defend properly and that's all he was bothered about.
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Post by CanaryIsleTerrier on Feb 9, 2019 21:51:48 GMT 1
Yep I’d agree. Just a shame it’s February and he is promising, we’ve had him since August. What could he do about a previous manager not picking him? That combined with settling in to a new country explains most of it Exactly my point. The lad improves with every game, as does Mbeza. It looks like Wagner made a mistake not playing these lads. Going with wing backs instead of wingers didn’t look too bad and performances were good but lack of creativity in the box has been our downfall, along with some rotten luck.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Feb 9, 2019 22:03:47 GMT 1
What could he do about a previous manager not picking him? That combined with settling in to a new country explains most of it He could have made it impossible for Wagner to leave him out! Done nothing of great note all season - him and mbenza have been woeful in the main. Along with bacuna they are what we didn't need - young lads with raw potential. Not players who are ready for the premier league. He might end up a decent signing .......but he's a long long way from being so right now. We simply have to be patient I suppose. He’s done nothing of note because he hasn’t been picked. He looked woeful at the start, now that a new manager has come in and believes in him he’s absolutely flying. Such a shame Wagner didn’t give him that sort of support. Mbenza and Diakhaby should have been given far more chances and backing from Wagner to give them the platform to get up and running and win us games. They were our only chance to get a bit of threat going forward but because they needed to do their defensive work they were ignored and now we’re getting relegated.
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Post by Giggity on Feb 9, 2019 22:12:54 GMT 1
Nice to see an attacking player running in and behind the opposition's defence. He has done this successfully in the past 2 home games scoring today against Arsenal and getting an Everton defender sent off. A shame we don't have another player in the squad who can do the same.
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Post by space hardware on Feb 9, 2019 22:19:30 GMT 1
Nice to see an attacking player running in and behind the opposition's defence. He has done this successfully in the past 2 home games scoring today against Arsenal and getting an Everton defender sent off. A shame we don't have another player in the squad who can do the same. Agreed. Why don't we look to play that kind of pass more often?
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Post by Clark W Griswald (CAS) on Feb 9, 2019 22:20:22 GMT 1
Looked great today in a 433, very promising. As was Bacuna. Kachunga looked the player he did in the promotion season. Some real positives today. Well done Jan and the players. Sent from my SM-G920F using proboards Smith/ Kachunga looked a good combo again, be too good for most next season
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Feb 9, 2019 22:21:14 GMT 1
He could have made it impossible for Wagner to leave him out! Done nothing of great note all season - him and mbenza have been woeful in the main. Along with bacuna they are what we didn't need - young lads with raw potential. Not players who are ready for the premier league. He might end up a decent signing .......but he's a long long way from being so right now. We simply have to be patient I suppose. Have you seen a winger in a Town shirt play better than he did today? Consider the quality of the opposition before you answer that He's had 4 straight starts and he's already producing performances of that level. There is a post on the Arsenal forum saying they made our right winger look world class, slightly tongue in cheek perhaps but he clearly stood out. None of us saw training but it's clear to me that Wagner wasn't picking Diakhaby purely because he couldn't defend properly and that's all he was bothered about. He's an expensive David Beresford. Runs like a whippet but when he inevitably has to touch the ball he loses the ball.
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Post by shawsie on Feb 9, 2019 22:26:59 GMT 1
He could have made it impossible for Wagner to leave him out! Done nothing of great note all season - him and mbenza have been woeful in the main. Along with bacuna they are what we didn't need - young lads with raw potential. Not players who are ready for the premier league. He might end up a decent signing .......but he's a long long way from being so right now. We simply have to be patient I suppose. He’s done nothing of note because he hasn’t been picked. He looked woeful at the start, now that a new manager has come in and believes in him he’s absolutely flying. Such a shame Wagner didn’t give him that sort of support. Mbenza and Diakhaby should have been given far more chances and backing from Wagner to give them the platform to get up and running and win us games. They were our only chance to get a bit of threat going forward but because they needed to do their defensive work they were ignored and now we’re getting relegated. But that's my point. He was that bad early on we couldn't pick him and he didn't look interested hence Wagner's reluctance to try him out. As for absolutely flying - if he repeats today 7 or 8 times between now and may then maybe.....but not quite yet.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 9, 2019 22:31:48 GMT 1
Have you seen a winger in a Town shirt play better than he did today? Consider the quality of the opposition before you answer that He's had 4 straight starts and he's already producing performances of that level. There is a post on the Arsenal forum saying they made our right winger look world class, slightly tongue in cheek perhaps but he clearly stood out. None of us saw training but it's clear to me that Wagner wasn't picking Diakhaby purely because he couldn't defend properly and that's all he was bothered about. He's an expensive David Beresford. Runs like a whippet but when he inevitably has to touch the ball he loses the ball. Bollox and you know it He still has dodgy moments where the ball gets away from him but they're becoming rarer by the game. He did far more good than bad today but some exposed themselves early doors with their views on him and now can't possibly bring themselves to admit they were wrong It was cringe worthy listening to Glennon today after he's been whining on for weeks that Diakhaby will never be a footballer
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Post by Solihull Terrier on Feb 9, 2019 22:44:50 GMT 1
He's an expensive David Beresford. Runs like a whippet but when he inevitably has to touch the ball he loses the ball. Bollox and you know it He still has dodgy moments where the ball gets away from him but they're becoming rarer by the game. He did far more good than bad today but some exposed themselves early doors with their views on him and now can't possibly bring themselves to admit they were wrong It was cringe worthy listening to Glennon today after he's been whining on for weeks that Diakhaby will never be a footballer Not bollocks. He is getting better, I'll give him that though. But he has a low starting point. I back him all the way on the day but our lads looked better against Chelsea back in L1 days.
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Post by richhtfc on Feb 9, 2019 22:48:44 GMT 1
I had written him off and said he didn’t look like a footballer but credit where credit is due, he is showing some stuff. Obviously he is final ball needs work but he is looking better and a goal might see him take it up a level. Certainly looks like he could do damage in the champonship. Probably would have a good 5-10 goals in him at that level. Oh look!... It turns out watching a player for 5 x 20 minutes cameos is not enough to judge him as a player. Wow, I’m off for a lie down.
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Post by Amigo on Feb 9, 2019 22:52:34 GMT 1
Another good game from him today. When he's started games he's generally done quite well (Everton away early on then didn't get a look in). It's a shame him and Mbenza haven't played more regularly earlier in the season because both get better with each game and we could have had 2 good players on our hands. I think Wagner just didn't trust them to do the dirty work although I've seen them both track back when needed and in the end he just didn't trust the players to take the game to the opposition and not get hammered. Last time I saw a stat they were in the top 5 fastest players in the league and you can see them both getting more confidence the more they play.
If they're both here next season I'd expect them to have a real impact in the Championship next season and with Bacuna showing glimpses of being a decent player we could have an exciting year.
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Post by Baby Ate My Eight Ball on Feb 9, 2019 23:01:05 GMT 1
He’s done nothing of note because he hasn’t been picked. He looked woeful at the start, now that a new manager has come in and believes in him he’s absolutely flying. Such a shame Wagner didn’t give him that sort of support. Mbenza and Diakhaby should have been given far more chances and backing from Wagner to give them the platform to get up and running and win us games. They were our only chance to get a bit of threat going forward but because they needed to do their defensive work they were ignored and now we’re getting relegated. But that's my point. He was that bad early on we couldn't pick him and he didn't look interested hence Wagner's reluctance to try him out. As for absolutely flying - if he repeats today 7 or 8 times between now and may then maybe.....but not quite yet. Why was he that bad early on but is now looking good? The player has to take responsibility but it doesn’t reflect well on Wagner that he couldn’t get a tune out of him in 5 months but Siewert has in 3 weeks.
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Post by skoda on Feb 9, 2019 23:13:17 GMT 1
There is a good player in this lad and now we slightly more attacking we seem to be starting to see his true ability's and same goes for mbenza... Maybe all those folk complaining about Rebbe's recruitment should be looking more at Wagner's negative tactics ( I am a fan of Wagner by the way )and not blaming Rebbe for everything that went wrong early season
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Post by King Curtis on Feb 9, 2019 23:15:58 GMT 1
You would have to watch VLP for 4 or 5 weeks to see as much contribution from him as we got in one game from Diakhaby today. I watched VLP bag 3 PL goals last season. Diakhaby?
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Post by londonterrier23 on Feb 9, 2019 23:21:55 GMT 1
I had written him off and said he didn’t look like a footballer but credit where credit is due, he is showing some stuff. Obviously he is final ball needs work but he is looking better and a goal might see him take it up a level. Certainly looks like he could do damage in the champonship. Probably would have a good 5-10 goals in him at that level. Oh look!... It turns out watching a player for 5 x 20 minutes cameos is not enough to judge him as a player. Wow, I’m off for a lie down. Players are judged when they are children, when they are young pros, when they peak, when they are aging like Puncheon, when they retire and every day in between. So what’s point? I have commented on him from the perspective of pre season, making a few starts and today before he scored / kind of scored by starting this thread. All I said previously (whilst acknowledging that it was on limited exposure) was tthat he didn’t look like he believed he belonged at this level. And then today I have said positively that he was showing signs of promise and that a goal might do him the world of good. I haven’t said yet that he is a player yet, I think that remains to be seen! So you are either saying that you think he IS a player, and that you saw it from the off Or you are simply trying to force a narrative that clearly bothers you onto me!? All from what it appears is your bed. 🤔 Maybe that’s the best place for you lad. Sleep it off.
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Post by Million Dollar Babies on Feb 9, 2019 23:25:19 GMT 1
You would have to watch VLP for 4 or 5 weeks to see as much contribution from him as we got in one game from Diakhaby today. I watched VLP bag 3 PL goals last season. Diakhaby? A worldy, a penalty and a scuffed shot Diakhaby caught that shot today perfectly yet a top class save kept it out. VLP completely scuffs one against West Brom and it goes in. Luck can play a massive part in football I've seen Diakhaby get through 1 on 1 with the keeper two home games running. VLP never had the intelligence to make those runs, he just stood out on the wing and rarely attacked the back post either. Could have been Wagner's tactics though
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Post by sameoldstory on Feb 9, 2019 23:36:17 GMT 1
Great game today.
Too many people on this site and in the ground are too quick to jump on the lads back and not give him chance. Ok hes been indifferent but booing and calling wont do the lad any good.
Lesser people may have crumbled and lost all confidence due to comments being aimed at him (aka loan signing Lukas Jutkiewicz all those years ago). Get behind him and hell come good.
He looks like he might become a fans favourite - hopefully :-)
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